https://cover-corp.com/news/detail/c2026102001
Looks reasonable to me.
>>115695213>>115695222>see approximately one (1) unsolicited penis >you are now allowed to demean and insult your viewers and a whole gender while you're at itogey, thanks cover
>>115695213
Nobody, I repeat, NOBODY actually gives a fuck about this, all this drama is artifically manufactured by those latching onto anything they can to try and bring down hololive
>>115695349
She is too much of a normie slut and a liability. Idk why Ao was terminated and not Laplus
>>115695349>guys please, Please, PLEASE ignore this it's literally a nothingburger>30mil Twitter impressionsPick one
Black company shit
get women off the internet
>>115695213>>115695327La+ is just one of those people who when caught red handed makes up a sob story to deflect(muh dick pics). Are we supposed to believe shes upset over a dick picture from a rando, when she specifically shits on her male viewers/chat(who can't send her pictures)?They just needed something heavier than the undoubtedly stupid nothingburger she started crashing out over.
>Laplacewtf that was her name the whole time?
>>115695449Wasn't Ao fired because she refused to do any work?Laplus at least streams, so it's going to take a bigger yab than this to sink her.
this whole shit could just be a post from cover like how they handle talent harrassment, but instead she needs to have her women moment
>>115695449>>115695522Ao was fired ? I thought it was a common agreement between her and Cover
>>115695490>Eh recognizing that nigger commit the most crimes is just logical, we should expulse all of them>Wtf why is she only addressing men concerning sexual harassment that's sexist
>>115695562there was a jp rrat that she was fired/suspended because she ostracizes and made anti korean comments against kanade behind the scenes. other than that, it was a mutually agreed graduation.
>>115695213Lapsama getting her cheeks pinked with a paddle on main channel onegai
>>115695452>people viewing the tweet = caring about the dramaThey don't teach basic comprehension in Jakarta do they
>>115695449She's clearly being protected given the whole sleeping through the Holo X anniversary thing only resulted in a temp suspension. Anyone else would have been sacked.
>>115695568>I have no reading comprehensionThe SeaDF showed up it seems>Are we supposed to believe shes upset over a dick picture from a rando, when she specifically shits on her male viewers/chat(who can't send her pictures)?See the point of this post is that she took a shit on her audience specifically>They just needed something heavier than the undoubtedly stupid nothingburger she started crashing out over.And it was most likely for something most people wouldn't crash out over so they needed to make it more serious so she gains more sympathy.That is the the gist of the post. You are arguing against something no one said faggot.
>>115695733>Anyone else would have been sacked.3 Holos have been sacked, 2 of them for leaking info and one for whatever the Chris clusterfuck was; dont know where you get the idea that Holo regularly sacks people for not showing up for an event
>>115695522She's streamed something like 35 hours all year, I don't have the exact numbers to hand but I'm pretty sure she's genuinely dead last below even Ayame (excluding Chama who's still banned from streaming after going menhera)
>>115695689If no one cares about the drama, why are you here actively running damage control?
>>115695213SAAAAAAAAAAAARRRR DO NOT SEND YOUR DICK PICSAAAAAARRR YOU ARE NOT GETTING LOLI VAGANA PIC BACK
>>115695213lol, she addressed all of her fans in her tweet. she must be getting A LOT of dickpics then
>>115695213bruh
>>115695989Cover thinks you're stupid enough to believe she got a dick pic on her official account, which goes through manager screening before any messages reach her
>>115695213imagine cying to daddy cover over getting called "ume" by a glorified egirl, japs are so retarded I'm glad they are dying off
>>11569587937 hours on youtube and 7 hours on twitch, so about 7-8 minutes per day
>received a dick pic in DMs from a male fan>when none of their DMs are openHolofags your company thinks you're retarded enough to believe this
>>115696048COVER confirmed Laplus got sent explicit pics, but never said they were DMs. Could've just been some random posting them in her replies or tagging her. So yeah, even with DMs closed, people can still send her that stuff. We just don't know how it happened.
>>115696098If that happened there'd have been thousands who saw it. But literally no one knew what she was talking about
>>115696095better to be a retard than a phasecuck
>>115695213>>115695325Imagine getting called out, disciplined and made to apologize for not wanting to see dick pics.I don't even know who is the most pathetic here, the male animals, Cover corp dick slurping, or Laplus for bending over
>>115696048>which goes through manager screeningDYRBI? Managers are way to lazy to screen every message.
>>115695213Another day, another Hololive yab
>>115695888Because nijifags should be called out on their actions. They saw this and genuinely thought they could do an Aloe 2.0
>>115695598Fake. her rm is known to kind of come and go from a lot of different idol groups
>>115696170>nijifags are alt right incel chuds nowTwisting yourself into a moebius string with this one
>>115696154Or people like you who believe she somehow got sent a dick pic, when there is no possible way to send her a DM.
>>1156952132 more weeks
>>115696131Fair point, but not every reply gets seen by thousands. Could've been deleted, hidden, or sent through message requests. COVER never explained how she got the pics, so we're all just guessing at this point.
>>115695562She and Marine both said she was asking management to come back literally just weeks before she "decided to graduate".
>>115696188And it's always because she refuses to work with the group.
>>115696154>Imagine getting called out, disciplined and made to apologize for not wanting to see dick pics.Assuming the dick pics aren't a lieThere are plenty of ways she could have tweeted that wouldn't have pissed off people. In fact, even the people defending her were saying that it was over her fans being rude in chat, because absolutely nobody was assuming this was "actually" about dick pics "the entire time"
There's a clear solution for this. Create a public account and re-post all penis pics sent to talents for the whole internet to see.
>>115696436The biggest question is which account was sent the pic because their official account only accepted DMs from people they know, if it was their alt, then the question is why and how are their DMs tied to their alts open to everyone?
>>115695213Cover doesn't want to upset coomers but they won't tolerate sexual harassment against talents. That should be the minimum required for a vtuber corporation or they are condoning harassment against their employees. Japan can be rather sexist against idols but the grimdark age of 80's idol culture was mostly because they were run by the Yakuza.>>115695452Anon the vast majority of comments are siding with Laplus. Japanese women don't like the idea of women getting sexually harassed because they are idols or vtubers. *surprised Pikachu face*
>>115696551NTA, but I don't really think this matters much. It could be her alt account, her personal / rm account, her email that she used 10 years ago that ddoxfags somehow managed to find, whatever. I don't think Cover has any open & hard rule that you must make all your contact accounts open to only people you know.At most, if it was one of her private contact accounts (email, twitter or whatnot), you can blame her for dragging personal problems to official account, but that is the extent of it
>>115696095>retarded phasecuck who got called RACIST by phase and told to fuck off lol, lmao even.
Good. Foids need to be put in their place
La+ is THIS close to becoming a 2nd Rushia
>>115696839Assuming the dick pic story is true, is part of the issue thoughIt's like whenever a streamer starts shitting on their audience and they pull the "oh, I've been getting death threats" bit to make themselves look like a victim. Fact is, La+ could have handled this in a far more mature way that wouldn't have led to her getting dogpilled, but her initial statement genuinely read like a shitpost to people who knew Japanese and even as some sort of rad-fem man bashing Tweet to people outside of the Vtuber sphere, which is exactly where this Tweet ended up
>>115695989Any big corpo vtuber would have DM disabled for stranger by default, Cover lied as they breath huh?
graduation time for that little skank
>>115697011Unless it's not a stranger...
>>115696976>Fact is, La+ could have handled this in a far more mature way that wouldn't have led to her getting dogpilled, but her initial statement genuinely read like a shitpost to people who knew Japanese and even as some sort of rad-fem man bashing Tweet to people outside of the Vtuber sphere, which is exactly where this Tweet ended upThis is true but that wasn't my point. My point was just that it doesn't matter which account she got those dick pics from - assume it was true, ofc. It wouldn't be any better or worse if she received it in any of her accounts - her work account, her alt account, her RM account, her RM email, or whatever available contact platforms she might use.
She got sent a tiny jap penis instead of a western true penis. I'd be mad too.
The absolute state of Hololive...fucking grim
>>115696826brother look at yagoo for one second. do you think the guy isn't mobbed up?
>>115695222Death to perverts
>>115695449>>115695522>>115695562>>115695598Ao resigned/graduated
>>115697539You want to kill La+? Go ahead.
>>115697468Not that I keep up with her, but she has a very active RM last I heard. If she got it there, it would have caused far less issues had she made the statement there.
>>115696170Get a life Helmir
>>115696887If only Cover would tell incels to fuck off too!
>closed DMs>got a DM with dick picShe already had contact with the guy and thought he was worthy of her. This is just her trying to get rid if him before someone found out.
>>115696974>La+ is THIS close to becoming a 2nd RushiaCover wasn't going to fire a talent over complaining about sexual harassment even if she did use harsh language. At most there might have been a stealth suspension and excluding Haato the maximum Hololive suspension length is about 3 months. The major stealth suspensions were Ina telling viewers she didn't like revealing outfits in October 2022, Laplus missing the HoloX anniversary in December 2022, and Altare complaining about management not even trying to fix his 3D suit in November 2024.https://youtu.be/UZRaLM7CrAg?t=5643https://youtu.be/fzlZDM_M5bkhttps://youtu.be/vrl9IaSX7rM?t=11522
>>115698075Outfitschizo...
Having to apologize for using mean words while talking about sexual harassement, japan really is the land of the soft spined and cucks. Yes, show your dick to my idol I think that's cool!
>>115698252>He thinks she actually got dick picsImagine being that retarded
>>115695349Hololive damage control corps in action
>>115698275Me when I never had relation ship with a women
>>115698252Giving women complete immunity to talk shit about men or act like a radfem on their corporate accounts is actually far more cucked
>>115697466I'm thinking the same thing, it might be someone on the inside...
>>115695989lying on the internet shaking my head
>>115698322holocel says what?
>>115695213This is the worst possible optics ever.This just look like they're forcing her to apologize for being sexually harassed and asking for her fans to respect her boundaries, just pull the usual lawsuit card and move on, it's not like she said to abort all male babies because they're possible rapists. Asking her male fans to not be creeps isn't a tall order.
>>115696839Pretty sure there's a telegram full of doxfags out there so yeah
>>115698680Why are you still pretending not to understand what the drama was about?
>>115695490Genuinely what is the issue with this statement
>>115698813>>115695611
>>115695222Graduation when?
>>115698792It only got to this point because anti V/anti femi got her tweet on their TL thanks to Elon's algo and decided to shit on her. There was nothing wrong with her message or request. Inb4 "b-b-ut she said オス!", so fucking what. She said オス because the message was aimed at men, since the culprit was a man.
>>115698792autistic holoantis who don't understand the concept of friendship dynamics and boundaries don't deserve to be engaged with in good faith
>>115698792holopigs having a melty over getting called out for being creeps. what else could it be?
>>115695213huh cover trying on the fence"satisfying" the costumer while "protecting" the talentlet's see where this go
>>115698955Theres nothing wrong with setting a boundary. Theres plenty wrong in the way she went about it retard.>so fucking what>Insult her audience "whoa why are people mad!"You're not very bright schizoanon.
Which one send her dick pic?
>>115699112Where did she insult her audience? Point out where in the tweet she insulted them?
>>115699119she's okay with dick pics from them, it's dick pics from her paypiggies that she doesn't want
>>115695222>>115695294>>115695327>see approximately one (1) unsolicited penis>only sent insult to manNot very transfriendly from holo live...
>>115699141Is pretending to be retarded so fun anon?
>>115699218Racist-kun...
laplus could've just told the sexual harassers off without calling them male animals
>>115699270There is no dick pic.
>>115699223>retarded wall of bullshit that has nothing to do with what she actually wrote ESLchama...
>>115699331>literal post explaining why Japanese people are upset>uh it doesn't explain anythingWhy are you running damage control over here?
>>115698955>>115699141>since the culprit was a man.Her Tweet was originally addressed just to "male otaku". Means anyone posting on this board essentially. Trying to retroactively backpedal this to only some mysterious man in her DMs sending her cock pictures is just PR damage control >She said オス because the message was aimed at menSo what? That's still going to be considered offensive and inflammatory to anyone looking at her post
Back when motherfucking coco was around they started to screen everything before things could reach the talent. Not to mention the DMs aren't openDo not fall for the lie about dick pics
Every single passing day makes me more sure that we need to genocide all trannies
I thought unicorns had no power, what happened my dear NTR enjoyers?
>>115699364You don't know japanese let alone alone english. She didn't call anyone disgusting.
>>115699609>Her Tweet was originally addressed just to "male otaku"Making shit up now? She especifically wrote 'セクハラ男オタク達へ' (To the Otaku Guys Who Harass Women). You either felt called out because you're a creep yourself or you're ESL and even with Elon's inbuilt TL machine you still can't grasp what she meant, probably both.
>>115698792bunch of sensitive man babies got offended that sub human sexual harassers got called male pigs, probably because they share the condition of being retarded, you all make the rest of men look bad by association
I agree, everything about this is fishy. This is absolutely damage control from Cover in a desperate attempt to try and soothe fans so they aren’t forced to fire Laplus.
>>115699717>Dude thinks a summary of the situation is a word for word transcriptOh damn you're retarded, is this your best defense? How could someone summarize her use of osu, creepy, and distancing herself from her viewers into a somewhat humorous sentence to explain the tone of the message?It's clear you have no intention of arguing in good faith though
>>115700023Yea it's absolutely damage control.
>>115700023If she really was sexually harassed over DMs it has to be someone from within hololive then which makes this an even bigger yab than it was before. >tfw lived long enough to see yagoo be exposed as a sexpest
This is actually the dumbest shit cover has doneNo fucking spine
>>115700023> being offended some one said they like wome's bodies and not men'srapist mindset
>>115700124I didn't ask for a biased summary from a butthurt SEA anti. I asked you to point out when did she directly insult her fans or called them disgusting.
>>115698104>OutfitschizoSure anon it was only a coincidence that after doing something to anger management all 3 talents couldn't stream on their Hololive channel for exactly 3 months. If management was really angry with Laplus complaining about sexual harassment than she once again would have needed a health break for 3 months.
>>115699935>didn't read her followup tweet clearly generalizing all men as sexual harrassment prone, some just handle it in a healthy wayYou're a retard and Anon was 100% right. >To the Otaku Guys Who Harass WomenAlso your translation is wrong. Weird of you to claim others are getting Japanese wrong when you're making changes this big. You know guys can be sexually harrassed too right?セクハラ男オタク達へsekuhara otoko otaku-tachi eLit: to sexual harrassment male otaku(plural). The point anon was trying to make was that she was talking to multiple people not mysetery dick man.
>>115695598I thought Korean discrimination died off with the elder Japanese generations. That sucks the youth does it too.
>>115698680It's funny Cover was trying to please both side of the spectrum and it blast on their face from both side, it reminds me of the taiwan shit kek
>>115697549Nope. Cover didn't let her continue her contract.
>>115700514Do you really think she only got 1 dickpic from 1 guy?
>>115700568Did you not read the statement?
Another holoL
They dont like you, they just want your money everything else is fake. Vtubing is NTR coded.
>>115700695You have no idea what you're talking about and it sounds like you're confusing it for the other clarification tweet. It's honestly crazy how dishonest you are.
>>115700568She getting more than 1 would be a huge cover fuck-up that should get more attention, it's nearly impossible to contact a talent privately
>>115700758I like that you don't even deny that you're ESL and SEA.
>>115700797>Why did you address my blatant lies instead of arguing over my schizophrenic babbleAnyone can see you're a retarded liar running damage control. My job is done
>>115697560i agree, it's why her dragging personal issues to main is so nonsensical. you can handle your shit the way you want to on your personal account, the account you received your harassment on. the one you have DMs enabled on. the one that is not locked down by your employer intentionally to prevent something like this from happening. hang on a minute, something's not making sense here, lap-sama...
Cover interns hard at work damage controlling lol
>>115701084Ikr? It's hilarious
>>115696161That or it was a manager themselves.
>>115699141How embarrassing of you to lose this badly, including after an apology from the talent, and think "yeah, I can convince passersby she did nothing wrong, here I go!"I'm always super amused when wokies assume everyone is as dumb and oblivious as they are.
>>115695325https://x.com/wagahaida_l/status/2111132160371704080 yeah how dare she say she's fine with male otaku but doesn't like sex pests.
>>115695452It has about 150,000 impressions, the 30 million is the number of times it has been displayed on anybody's screen or been loaded in any instance.
>>115695522Laplus is the member who streams the least, aside from Haachama for obvious reasons, but she does stream, release music, do concerts, and join collabs.
>>115695689oh defense force is BUBBLIN
>>115701465So a useless number inflated by bots and scrapers?
>>115695562Everything official says she resigned, and her RM has a history of quitting groups very regularly.
>>115701536Typical anti strat to say every graduation is a firing
>>115701515Yes, Twitter's view count is extremely inflated.
>>115701515Acting like it hasn't been seen by most people is retarded.
>male collabing whore who never streamsWhy would anyone defend la+?Does she even have fans left?
>>115701734Have you seen how this place gets over someone not liking any of the ENs or IDs for the same reason? Of course they will defend her lol
>>115700568She got zero dick pics from zero guysAnyone who believes a twitter feminist who pivots to claiming harassment with no proof after being called out for her behaviour at this stage is beyond redemption.
the penis must have been small
Laplus' content fucking sucks anyways. I never got her appeal.
Every time I read one of these corpo statements and see shit like "this is a PROHIBITED ACTIVITY," or threatening legal action for calling Kiara a whore, or whatever, it absolutely boils my piss. Who the fuck is some PR golem at a foreign corporation to act like he can "prohibit" me fucking anything
I think i found the guy who sent the weird looking dick pic>>115701758
Imagine she actually got harassed and nobody believes her because of the amount of times she's lied before
>>115701971Do you think there is a popular vtuber not constantly getting harrased?She is getting harrased because she said i dont want to be harrased
>>115701758Go to an urologist ugly dick anon, I'm sure they can help you with it
>>115701966>>115702000You beta bitches, simping for them wont make them like you.
>>115695213>>115695989Why not just block the number?I've been sent a dick pic once and I completely blocked their number and never heard from them again
Whatever employee write this lie should have studied his holohistoryMarine and Choco at the very least have talked about recieving dick pics and it not being an issue to call management in over
>>115702034Unlike you i have a nice looking penisNobody calls the cops when i send them my premium dong
>>115699935>You either felt called outI'm not one of her fans but everyone, including on the Japanese side, naturally assumed she was just shitting on her fans. That was the general assumption and, honestly, that was definitely what she was intendingThis last minute bit where she's pretending it was over secret cock pictures is just a PR stunt
#ShowUsTheWeirdPenis
DICKS OUT FOR LAP
>>115700311>being offended some one said they like wome's bodies and not men'sThe funny thing about this that barely anyone seems to have pointed out is how comically sexist this was. And I don't mean in a "how dare you not be attracted to men" sort of wayShe doesn't even say that she's attracted to women. She basically says that a woman/women's body/ies get her excited/turn her on. Probably doesn't sound that bad but if a guy said something similar, he would have been dragged through the coals for objectifying women
>>115702221Stop rapebaiting
>>115701734troons love that shit, the worst it is the more they love and defend it
>>115702415Oh no, the Clara antis are overlapping into lap+ threadsLmao fucking dramafags
>>115701734Idol cultists have only one means of handling criticism.
>>115702445Who
>>115702445don't know who that is but if they despise troons they're probably good people
>>115698740Kek just one?>>115698955>thanks to Elon's algoI don't get it. Elon changed the algo so that things that would get antifeminists upset is more likely to go viral?
>>115702445are the people who disagree with you in the room with us now?
>>115699622>they started to screen everything before things could reach the talent.Source?>>115699935>Elon's inbuilt TL machineTbf Japanese is infamously difficult to translate>>115700023Dang pic related has a good point
>>115700193Well I guess they do have a bad history with the manager who harassed Mel but I don't want to think it was someone within staff
>>115700432I mean I don't know if its about outfits specifically but I am starting to buy the rrat of Cover doing something kinda like stealth suspensions.
>>115701867Well they have to put on a show for the cameras I guess. Also no offense and I sympathize with your point but "my free speech right to demean and harass a woman" is not the wisest hill to die on.
>>115695522>Laplus at least streamsNo she doesnt
>>115702068I just ignored it and stopped picking the calls after the picture and thankfully he fucked off quick. It was during my work shift too...>>115702087Dunno about Choco but Marine is a quasi lewdtuber that if she could would openly say she is into the dick pics as long as the guy isn't pushy about it.
>>115703039Yeah that's pretty much what they said, mainly just that they wished the dicks were more impressive. Choco said they should at least get properly hard to her first
>>115696520Unironically you might actually be cooking with that. Shaming these assholes with public exposure could be the biggest deterrent.
>>115695213She should have dealt with it internally to begin with. Instead of putting out a tweet that basically banned any level of sexuality or sexual humor from fans, and even referred to them as “males” in an animal like way. There’s good ways and bad ways to handle things. And her tweet was about the worst way she could have handled this.
>>115695452Are you a woman or a tranny? Because I can't image a guy being so invested on gossip and drama
>>115703276>Instead of putting out a tweet that basically banned any level of sexual harassment from fans,I'm sorry this is happening to you.
>>115703287I mean that anon is right. 30 million views isn’t a nothingburger. This shit blew up. Call him a tranny but he’s right that this is a big deal to some degree.
>>115703287>>115703287>Because I can't image a guy being so invested on gossip and dramaProjecting is all holocels are good for.
>>115703298Not happening to me, sister. Seems to be happening to Laplus Darkness. And on a larger scale to your political movement and radical feminism.
>>115695213this has to be the dumbest fucking lie they tried to push so far, the fucking gall you can't contact her in any meaningful way, let alone send her a dick pickher crashout had no mentions of dick picks being sent to her, she was sperging out about people in her chatthis bitch really is a nepo baby, isn't she?
>>115703211You know my oshi said something like this and I happen to be an XL but I never mustered up the guts to actually send one. Still wonder what she would have thought when seeing my you know what.>>115703276She was probably reeling from shock and not thinking straight (heh) so maybe thats why Cover asked her to run tweets by them next time she's having a personal crisis.
>>115703338>baby listens to joe rogen for the first time
>>115703338>And on a larger scale to your political movement and radical feminism.?
>>115703427NTA but go have a look at the JP replies to her initial Tweet. There's a lot of people calling her a radfem because using オス to address guys is pretty standard for their feminists. It's like how over here, if you see some young woman calling men "foids" or just repeating other misandrist stuff, you'd probably clock them as a radfem too.>>115703420You're too retarded to post here
>>115703502 (Me) >It's like how over here, if you see some young woman calling men "foids"Sorry, I'm retarded. I meant moids
>>115703502>You're too retarded to post hereaverage rw incel response to anyone arguing against them.
>>115703515>Sorry, I'm retardedYes you are.
>>115703502Yeah it’s pretty blatant radfem language. It’s like how calling women “females” can be neutral. But when you’re using it purposefully to insult them, it’s like calling them an animal. This is the exact same thing. Bad fuck up by Laplus.
Men are so sensitive.
>>115703590 (me)And by the way, the sisters in this thread would absolutely understand the point if it was a man calling women females. But they suddenly forget how the world works when it suits them.
>>115703211I only know the story of her and a train molester and saying he didn't turn her on at all, disappointing her
>>115695213>>115695222>>115699167>>115696436>Assuming the dick pics aren't a lieFeels like a lie for sure. She could've just said so "Btw I UNFORTUNATELY have received some dick pics this is going too far yada yada" no one would've given a fuck and would've supported her. Could be a woman moment where she saw it and went on a retarded rant but considering it was cover of all people who said it was a dick pic it's 100% meant to cover her ass. Though, how would this supposed dick pic even reach her? Do they actually open dms and shit on twitter? Because there is no way she randomly saw it being tagged to her and no one saw the pic themselves but she saw it first of all people.
>>115703532You can use whatever buzzwords you want, but go on the Quote Tweets and you'll see multiple Japanese people calling her a feminist. Or do I have to bother linking them?
>>115703597Yes, please be nice to us
>drama about a chuuba with less streaming hours than saba in 2026Most obvious astroturfing since the Deme shit. Big surprise Laplus just released her album
>>115703590>But when you’re using it purposefully to insult them, it’s like calling them an animal.The horror. How would men ever recover from this?
>>115703651Yeah it feels like a lie to me. The nature of the tweet felt more like complaining about being sexualized than having a dick pic sent to you. Which by the way, could have come from some random bot or Pajeet. So like it doesn’t even make sense. Maybe I’m wrong, but it seems like a cover story to make the tweet seem less bad. Either way I Hope Cover just yard wrangles its Laplus’s/Kiara’s a little bit. We don’t need a Clara situation over here.
>>115703729How dare she refer to sexual predators without an ounce of respect? These feminists need to be stopped!
>>115703753>I'm sorry you got sexually harassed, but you called us a mean name so apologize right now!Yagoo probably.
>>115703729If it happened to a woman, it’d be front page news on Dexerto and Gaming Insider and you’d have Rima and Doxxsagi talking about how bad misogyny is in the “vtubing community”. And you’d have 20,000 vtweeters coming out with their #metoo stories of being degraded with insults.So why don’t you pipe down and make me a sandwich, Aisha.
>>115702843The algo now ignores your personal interests in favour of political or shock value posts, controversial tweets will always get higher visibility, why do you think that shit has 30 million views.
>>115703753>sexual predatorsRemember how everyone assumed it was her fans or people in chat and that was the argument until suddenly, actually, no, it was someone DMing her?That's easily the most retarded part of this. And yeah, if you're using slurs on your corporate account, it's going to cause issues, especially when your company has to actually step in and admit you went too far with them. I swear anyone arguing along these lines has never been employed
>>115695213>>115695222she literally did nothing wrong. she was only spelling out obvious social dynamics for a base of spergs.
>>115703788Yagoo and most people ITT, apparently. The fact that everyone’s upset about her response rather than the fact she was sexually harassed is very telling.>b-but muh feelingz!!1!Her language is totally justified. “Not all men,” sure, but somehow always a man. Makes you think.
>>115703841The biggest sperg in this shit was La+ though. Did you even read that shitty tweet?It genuinely reads like a shitpost
>>115703211>>115703607just popping in to say i love choco. no reason. she's so good.
>>115703858>The fact that everyone’s upset about her response rather than the fact she was sexually harassed is very telling.The girl who did a "ranking how good my co-workers are as fap material"
>>115695611what fucking idiot would think it okay that her main "joke", to perv on other members, means it's okay for them to perv on other members? i knew we were majority autistic, but not to this extent
>>115703858>”She was LE HARASSED!!”No she wasn’t.She saw some barely lewd art of herself or some slightly spicy comment towards her and then had a full blown feminist crashout. And it got so bad that Cover had to step in, make a statement, and make up a blatant lie about a dick pic being sent to an account you can’t even DM.
>>115703900Lewd jokes among friends are different than getting unsolicited dick pictures from some random guy online.
>>115703900how is that some kind of counter? do you treat people you are familiar with the same as internet strangers? if you do, seek help for your parasocial issues.
>>115703936>Publicly makes lewd and sexual jokes>Fanbase that you make those jokes too and who pay your bills make one or two jokes back>”ITS RAPE!!!”
>>115703932>unsolicited dick picturesThe thing she conveniently didn't mention until after her dumb tweets blew up
>>115703936Fanbases resemble their oshi. This is something that everyone who isn't a newfag knows on this boardIf your fanbase is actually acting creepy, guess what the number one cause is? You don't see these issues with other Holos because they actually know how to be responsible, even with much hornier fanbases. But again, that's assuming this dick picture shit even is real because, as said multiple times in this thread, everyone arguing about this assumed she was talking about her chat until that announcement a few hours ago, which apparently means her chat was fine? Makes sense, she doesn't stream so how would she even complain about her chat
so their great idea was fabricating a story about dick pics? something every fucking female creator deals with? doesnt warrant her public meltdown
>>115704030that doesn't mean people can't tardwrangle them.you can have content that sexualizes loli or glorifies violence and be able to say don't touch real kids or be violent lmao, what you see in the screen is just entertainment.
>>115695213There's a chance I can send my oshi a dick pic!
>>115704099>that doesn't mean people can't tardwrangle them.Of course. But what La+ did was such a bad attempt that she in turn had to get tard wrangled by her company. Just be honest here: are you able to actually read her Tweet or are you relying on a translation?>you can have content that sexualizes loli or glorifies violence and be able to say don't touch real kids or be violent lmaoAbsolutely retarded example. I know we can point out that streams are content and that they're playing into characters, but pretending that they're entirely rehearsed like this is retarded. I'd guarantee La+ has pushed against some of her co-workers limits considering how over the top she gets
>>115704139>But what La+ did was such a bad attempt that she in turn had to get tard wrangled by her company.it is clearly just a stock standard PR apology to stop further controversy.
>>115704139She wasn’t even tardwrangling, as they didn’t do anything wrong. There was no dick pic, that’s a made up story after the fact. She was made at seeing a sexual joke in chat or on Twitter. And then had a massive feminist crash out. It’s really that simple.
>>115704168Usually a Vtuber just tardwrangling their fans doesn't erupt into a controversy. The fact it did is because La+ wrote her tweets as if she was shitpostingAlso you didn't answer my question: are you able to actually read her Tweet or are you going off a TL?
>>115704139What she tweeted wasn't that bad except from some poor choice of words. >rehearsed Of course not, but they know each other's boundaries and laplus never behaved that way to holos that are explicitly NG with sensitive content such as iroha or kanade
>>115704208>What she tweeted wasn't that bad except from some poor choice of words.What she tweeted wasn't that bad except for the bad parts of itWhat a retarded thing to post
Okay, there’s no way you niggers seriously think オス is a slur. You cannot possibly be that sensitive.
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH LAPLUSSY
>>115704226some people would gladly shut down part of their brains just to feel offended for no reason
>>115704226>>115704261If some big male streamer was posting メス, it'd be an equally big drama
>>115698813It's WOKE
>>115704261They’re doing everything they make fun of women for doing.
>>115704279Most holos regularly used mesu to refer to people or character.No one gives a shit because it's literally just words
>>115704308>>115704226words have meaning when they have intent, anon.
>>115704261Women take responsibility for shitty actions challenge: Impossible
>>115704252
>>115704308>Most holos regularly used mesu to refer to people or character.Post some Tweets of Holos calling their fans メス in what are supposed to be serious Tweets. Because remember, La+'s tweet was meant to be totally serious. It's even in keigo
>>115704226anything written with katakana is a slurthis post brought to you by hiragana gang
>>115704226It's literally just like woke retards crying about "females" but you swap the gender now
>>115695213>>115695222How is that even harassment, like turn off the screen or close tabAverage nip dick is more a joke than a treat
>>115704348It’d be like if Roberu came out and called his fans “disgusting females”. He’s be getting crucified just like Laplus is. It’s not hard. And these femanons who have this need to defend any woman no matter what the situation would themselves be here shrieking with rage if it was the other way around.
>>115704308Why are you lying on the internet?
>>115704384If there’s something that dangerhairs and males can bond over, it’s definitely their shared sense of oversensitivity. Mega pussy faggots on the opposite sides of the autism spectrum.
>>115704437They're women, they side with women even if said woman is a retard
>>115704324There's not even contempt in her use of the word>i am interested in the females, not (osu)that's literally just stating a preference.if you go with the definition before jp twitter feminists hijacks them, osu basically means sexually driven males.
>>115695325She's an overdramatic cunt and I say that as a femanon. Literally all girls get dick pics, just block and move on. She chose to basically be a virtual stripper and she's mad that her clients are acting like creeps lol.
>>115704464>dangerhairsDo I need to look up whatever new slang you "people" have invented?
>>115704421Exactly, grow a fckin spine would you
>>115704494>Literally all girls get dick picsAnd you don’t think this is a problem worth speaking up against?
>>115695325You should be happy she's shitting on men, isn't that the unicorn dream?
>>115703651Supposedly she got sent a dick pic on her non-holo RM account. I don't see how that's cover's problem exactly.
>>115704474>i am interested in the femalesShe doesn't even say this, what she says is technically more sexist towards women too>osu basically means sexually driven males.No, it's original meaning was to denote sex in animals. That is quite literally the definition you will get when looking it up. Stop inventing shit, you don't know the language
the only reasonable explanation that doesn't just paint her as an liar is that the DM came from a cover employee kek
>>115704469You see it with the Lindsay Clancy case, the Cornell 7 incident, etc. Many women will side with other women even if the woman is blatantly in the wrong or a terrible person. Not all women do this. But a large number of them do.
>>115704519What can you do? It's the internet. If she doesn't like it she can always quit being an influencer and log off.
>>115704548if you genuinely believe 1 woman managed to rape 7 men and that the reverse didn't happen instead you're beyond retarded
>>115704535YABBA DABBA DOO!!!
>>115704569I don’t think a woman should ever have to throw her career away to avoid sexual harassment. I also don’t think it’s unreasonable to be uncomfortable with receiving dick pics.
>>115704591Not him but it's seems more likely that she just regretted acted like a slut and pulled the rape card because even if she gets caught lying, she gets off scot free
>Drama originates in Japan>Japanese twitter up in arms with many posts getting over 7k likes calling her out because her words were offensive>EOP damage control on /vt/ thinks lying and pretending to be retarded with bad faith arguments will have any effect when we're literally not the ones on twitter calling her sponsors.What do you hope to achieve? She didn't apologize because of us, shes reaping what she sowed with her retardation much to our amusement.
>>115704637You realise that if she has said this originally, this wouldn't have developed into drama? The reason this became drama is that she sperged out and wrote a massive shitpost Tweet that apparently had almost nothing to do with dick pics. You're just spamming the thread with your talking point because you have no actual way to engage with anyone
>>115704591- It was consensual.- She said it was consensually multiple times to multiple people on multiple days after the fact.- She even tried to go back to the frat again for another gang bang- Wasn’t allowed back by the responsible frat President- One of the guys was actually passed out when she gave him a blowie, which is rape, unlike what happened to her- Bar says she was not served any alcohol as she was under the drinking age- Made social media posts and texts after the orgy that shows she was not incapacitated at allI could go on femanon. I can see why most societies in most of human history have had society level limits on your behavior.
>>115704531Sure the original kanji meaning is to denote animal sex (similar to male and female, are also used to denote human sex in medical terms) but we're talking about its slang/katakana variation which were commonly used to describe male/female who were particularly sexually driven. Some male ASMR genres are also described with some variation of the word osu, which is the ones more on the rapey r18 side.
>>115704591But the 7 didn't accuse her retard. She accused them after slutting it up, and being vocally unashamed of it.The men were the ones who wanted nothing more to do with her so she then changed her story to they raped her.
>>115704535what DMs? since youtube just launched gif comments last week, you can basically send one right now even without twitter.
>>115696154>or Laplus for bending overIn this case she wouldn't have had much of a choice, though >>115696048Depends. In some places management has access to the e-mails and goes through them sometimes, but the talent is still expected to deal with the bulk of them.
>>115704696>telling vtubers to stop being cringe
>>115704696There was no dick pic.Her original tweet was clearly her being upset at her fans making sexual jokes occasionally after she herself made a career out of sexual jokes to her fans.
>>1157046427k likes is literally nothing for holos that has a target on their back, ui had 240k+ likes shitting on her just because she's a women with an unconventional career.
>>115704591>Retard still claiming she was raped despite all the evidence proving otherwiseWow and here I thought the bad faith guy was just cover's paid damage control, but we literally have THESE creatures among us. Dios mio.Remember this post whenever you see a blind defender of anything a vtuber does. THEY are here.
>>115704637No one said she had to like it, but she could be an adult about it and just delete and move on like literally every other woman on the planet? She chose a career where she'd have to pander to creepy horny otaku men, that's like a coal miner complaining about getting black lung.
>>115704681>The men were the ones who wanted nothing more to do with herwell yeah, that's typically what rapists do with their victims to avoid consequences
>>115695213I was the guy who sent dick picks to Laplus
>>115704756wasn't one dude got proven in court that he indeed raped her or something?
>>115704756You're a "man" who genuinely fears being raped KEKAROOOOO
>>115704672>Sure the original kanji meaning is to denote animal sex (similar to male and female, are also used to denote human sex in medical terms) but we're talking about its slang/katakana variation which were commonly used to describe male/female who were particularly sexually driven.I mean, if you're trying to go down that road, the katakana variant is also used by radfems. Pretending it also doesn't still mean animal is equally retarded>Some male ASMR genres are also described with some variation of the word osu, which is the ones more on the rapey r18 side.Yeah, it's a term used in porn? It's meant to be vulgar. You'll hear マンコ used a lot in porn too, that doesn't mean that you can post it on your corporate account?Genuinely, La+ might have been able to get away with it had she been doing some weird erotic play and she was playing a character who was talking down to her fans. That's not impossibleBut that isn't how her tweet is structured. It's written as if it's a serious tweet, other than her using retarded words on several occasions. The only consclusion people who actually read the language come to on seeing it is, "hey she's talking shit about her fans". She doesnt even use 吾輩 for "i" in it, either. She isn't playing a character or doing erotic roleplay. This is such a dumb argument
>>115703883Choco approved of this guys dick pic
>>115704437People would cry for his blood and odds are he'd get fired. He wouldn't get a gentle tap in the wrist
She’s based for speaking out against sekuhara. I’ll leave it at that and enjoy a glass of Henny.
>>115704781>wasn't one dude got proven in court that he indeed raped her or something?No
>>115704530Covers statement specifically says she was sent the harassing pictures on her Laplus darkness account and wouldn't bring RM accounts into itThis is a desperate cope to cover the fact that no dick pics were sent
>>115704781No? There haven’t even been charges let alone a trial.The limp wristed cucks at the university, meaning staff members, not a judge or jury or judicial system, said sexual assault happened. Which is about as predictable as someone with purple hair saying all white people are racist. A university ruling on something is as worthless as used toilet paper.
>>115704791Describing a dude who sends sexual harassment to random girls online as a sexually driven male is perfectly appropriate albeit using language that are slightly crude.
>>115704756Do you even watch vtubers or did you just blow in from /pol/ to vomit everywhere?
>>115704791Hes the same shitposter trying to pretend we're wrong about her usage when its literally the Japanese calling her out. Hes not arguing in good faith
>>115704871>is perfectly appropriateOn your corporate account? No, it isn't. And this situation has proven that that is the general opinion. >sends sexual harassment Do you want to try answering how she even got a dick pic? You can't DM her and emails are screened by Cover staff. If it was on her rm, Cover wouldn't touch it
>every girl got sent dick pics at one point, she overreacting >no dick pics was sent actually, she's lyingwhich is it?
>>115704917It’s just happened with crystals and the power of misogyny. Don’t question our narrative anon!!
>>115704922Pretty sure the Marine stuff people are talking about was stuff that happened 6-7 years agoDo you even watch Hololive?
>>115704917You can upload an image to YouTube comments now, the image will be sent directly to her notification for approval or moderation.You can also @ her on Twitter and delete the post after a few second timing it when she is likely to be online on twitter, the post wouldn't survive but a notification would still be sent to her.
>>115704906>how dare anon point out I was misrepresenting a case to support a whore! He must be from /pol/ that sexist chud!If you don't want to be seen as a conniving retard simply don't post, it's that simple.
>>115704922It’s both.She almost certainly was not sent a dick pic and has closed DMs. But in a world where she was somehow sent one, it would have probably been from some random Jeet and she should have just deleted it instead of crashing out on social media.
>>115704970>You can upload an image to YouTube comments nowAlright, then you can find that for me>the post wouldn't survive but a notification would still be sent to her.Sorry, how many notifications do you think these girls get an hour? Let's be fucking real here, even you know this is bullshit
>>115704970>Schizo Defense Forcemy sides.>No you see they perfectly times it so only she saw it! A literal miracle!
>>115695213This is what, the second? Third time?? That Cover had to make a public statement telling incels to chill the fuck out with their autistic meltdowns? Goes to show that all the times these same incels loved pointing to female fans being "crazy" just for drawing ship art was pure projection. How are you not embarrassed by this?
>>115704979I'm not even the same anon. The absolute state of /vt/ these days.
>>115704917sure even she admitted she could have worded her post better, but that doesn't mean that the word is inherently a slur like some people alleges. it's closer to female and "females" than any sort of slur
>>115704999>She saw it but the archive bots monitoring every talent's @ didn't catch it
>>115704922Schrodinger's dick pic.
>>115705000Anon, you really don't want to go into a Holox thread with the logic of,>Cover needing to make public statements is a bad signThey're quite literally the worst Gen for SNS drama
>>115705000Is that why Laplus put out an apology and the first half of Cover’s statement was damage control about the actions of their talent?
>>115705007Fixed it for you>>how dare anon point out that OTHER ANON was misrepresenting a case to support a whore! He must be from /pol/ that sexist chud!
>>115704995If you don't stream regularly like laplus it's actually not that many, especially not direct @ since that'll get your message directly notified to the account.
>>115700023Very succintly pick apart. It could be a way to protect the talent, no one is going to ask them to show the proof
>>115705018>sure even she admitted she could have worded her post betterAfter a massive PR disaster>but that doesn't mean that the word is inherently a slur like some people allegesFrom context, that was the intent lmao. This is exactly what the Japanese were pointing out>it's closer to female and "females" than any sort of slurI assume you mean "male" here and no, it is not. "Male" is what you get when you use a TL but that would not be a good translation of the term hereIf she said 男性, nobody would have an issue. That word can be translated to male and nobody would be offended because it's perfectly polite. Even just 男 by itself can be considered offensive in Japanese, though, depending on the context. That's something you might not realise unless you actually know something about the language, which you clearly don't. What she said was several levels worse and is generally a term used only in porn or for actual animals
>>115705087>no one is going to ask them to show the proofpost the dick pics, Yagoo.
>>115705019>archive botsdoesn't exist. elon killed most read only bots a few years ago when he slashed down free rate limits.
>>115705046more like>this anon keeps using buzzwords about random /pol/shit topics as an excuse to attack vtubersbut ok. Man, this whole thread reads like a bizarre chinese rant from 2020.
>>115705074>If you don't stream regularly like laplus it's actually not that many,If you're going to claim it, go find it. Cover is not going to mention a deleted Dick Pic "@" online and you're genuinely just coping at this point
>>115705128But I didn't bring up the case? I responded to anon talking about it.
>>115695213OSUSU
>>115705164Then you're both retarded. Man, I just miss when /vt/ was about vtubers
>>115705018This dude is really arguing that mesu isn't used in a derogatory way kek.
>>115705105>after PR disaster actually no, she posted a mini apology like one hour after her original tweet in her alt account about her choice of words.>term used only in porn or for actual animalsThere are respectable works that uses that word to describe males that are sexually driven with no issue such as this 2025 dramahttps://www.primevideo.com/detail/0TVCX5BF5AMJHS8PF679B0SDAGJust like "females", there woketards who will be offended when they see that term used to refer to women because /pol/types regularly use that term to refer to women as well. The negative connotation of the term "osu" is not that much different, it's not inherently a slur.Sure it can be interpreted as such according to whoever is reading it, but just like "females" there are cases where that is not the case even when used to refer to men/women.Laplus admits she could have chosen a different word that could less likely be interpreted as a slur in her apology, but that doesn't necessarily means she used the term as a slur in her original post.
show us the penis yagoo, why aren't you showing us the penis?We demand to see the weird penis.
>>115705245Why are you pretending you're not just being a politics tard? Bruh you jumped out the moment the other fag got called out with a muh /pol/.
>>115705129a deleted dick pic is still a dick pic.I wish I saved that towa tell down picture lel
>>115696520This is unironically a great solution. It makes the retards that actually do it feel retarded, and deters goblinoids like Laplus from lying. Win/win.
>>115705126So true sister, literally zero bits on twitter these days, except when you get ratio'd
>>115705257mesugaki is not particularly derogatory, it's a celebrated character archetype
Why are you all arguing and not demanding to see the penis?
>>115704039ironically, it's something every female creator deals with.. except these ones, owing to the nature of their gated access. so it's something they should be used to if it were happening, which it isn't. changing the story to lie about a dick pic was the worst possible way they could go with this.
>>115704917You need your hard drive checked lad
>>115705370elon still welcome bots in his platform as long as you pay him the rate quotas.read bots is just no longer economical now because they jacked up the prices.
>>115705303>There are respectable works that uses that word to describe males that are sexually driven with no issue such as this 2025 dramaTheres a difference between a woman calling herself a bad bitch or sexually liberated and you calling her bitch or a whore. Shocking I know, context is like kryptonite for you autists. But yes her Osu was derogatory. Just like calling a woman a mesu. You clearly have 0 japanese or japanese culture knowledge so its weird how adamant you are on being wrong.
>>115705419an insult isn't an argument; try producing one. you've got a good half hour before the topic dies, plenty of time.
>>115705303>she posted a mini apology like one hour after her original tweet in her alt account about her choice of words.It was getting to the point of people messaging her sponsors and those sponsors admitting that the situation didn't look good. That's why Cover had to step in>respectable worksYou're posting a single film from 2005 (not 2025, you fucking retard) to justify this and ignoring the actual Japanese response>当初は仁子を「ジーン」「ジンコ」と呼んでいたが、途中から「お前」、最終的には「君」と呼んでいた。And the guy in it is definitely not mean to be polite, LMAO. Fucking even using お前 would be considered rude on a corpo account, just for instance>The negative connotation of the term "osu" is not that much different, it's not inherently a slur.No, the term was originally only used for animals, trying to use it on humans is a more modern development. Jesus Christ you don't know this fucking language>雄(オス、牡、英: Male)は、動物の性別のうち、精巣を有し、精子をつくる側のこと。>主に人間以外の動物で使われ、人間の男性に相当するFrom fucking Wikipedia. Stop fucking lying. >femalesThe equivalent to オス isn't female, it's メス, which is also seen as offensive and wouldn't see use outside of doujin or porn. You're wasting my time, you don't know this language>but that doesn't necessarily means she used the term as a slur in her original post.Go read through her post again, because you're certainly making a lot of assumptions here
>>115699223>feminist slur>for menGave me a good chuckle. No way anyone actually thinks that's a real thing.
>>115705419The dick pic La+ apparently got is more likely to be there than in her DMs anyways lmao
>>115705245>I just miss when /vt/ was about vtubersAnyone who really cares moved away from the board a long time ago or dropped the hobby.You're a dramafag as much as everyone here, don't act like you care beyond that.
>>115705495KEK
>>115704922>>every girl got sent dick pics at one point, she overreactingHow does this make things any better for you retards?
>>115705391Mesugaki is a PORN archetype literally describing a LOLI SLUT/fuckhole. Even though it's popular go say it in a japanese holo's chat and see what happens retard. Kusogaki is the non porn alternative
>>115705443Calling a woman a mesu isn't necessarily derogatory either anon.Describing someone that they are sexually driven isn't a slur.
>>115705499Eh, I'm just a retard who doesn't filter well enough. I really should just filter out everything but my general at this point.
>>115705538>Calling a woman a mesu isn't necessarily derogatory either anon.>Calling a woman a slut isn't an insultDid your parents drop you on your head?
>>115705525Because she didn't get one.Because it's normalized and not worth being frustrated over.Because whatever negative effect it would have on someone, anyone, a plea to emotion logical fallacy used to justify her reaction to it - which is the point of the controversial, her behavior - is repugnant.The point is here's no way out of this for her, it looks bad from every angle. Either she's lying to justify her behavior (retarded) or it really happened and she's using it to justify her behavior (retarded).Work it through.
>>115703789Why not fix your disgusting behavior first? Maybe then, women will talk to you.
>>115705484>https://x.com/GROWNKIDZ125/status/2111226404356637118>https://x.com/hbBKFjBnLp5338/status/2111344000250851434>https://x.com/DucentiHTTP/status/2111452786500223043
>>115703823>And yeah, if you're using slurs on your corporate account, it's going to cause issues,Won't someone think about the sexual predators harassing vtuber women?
>>115705572>sending dick pics to vtuber girls is normalizeDo holobros really?
>>115705656If I was getting sexually harassed in my job by a customer and called her a bitch on my corpo account, do you think I'd get away with it? You've never had a job
>>115705484These are just 2 japanese posts from right when it happened. Theres a lot more by now.
>>115705700>pls thing about the sexual harassers fee fees guys!
>>115705639I don't see what these tweets are supposed to prove. There is no "slur" that does any actual harm to men. There is no serious history behind that word for it to warrant it being a slur. Misandry is not a real thing>It might lead to disgust toward Hololive as a whole Bit too late for that, everyone already hates incels. People actively avoid holocels around convention because you faggots can't take a damn shower.
>>115705758Nice strawman. Since she didn't get a dick pic, this person doesn't even exist
>>115705714Why do they feel called out? Must have skeletons in their closets...
>>115705770The definition of a slur is >a disparaging remark or a slightThere is no need for harm, serious history, or whatever other bullshit you're using to justify it. >Misandry is not a real thingOh, so you're actually evil. That explains it.>People actively avoid holocels around convention because you faggots can't take a damn shower.And yet you can't get out of this thread for what? Several hours now?
>>115705770>There is no serious history behind that word for it to warrant it being a slur.>I was never arguing honestly!Hilarious that you're pretending you know anything about the usage too>N-no the japs are wrong about their own language! Only my fat gaijin ass knows the true meaning!
>>115705470>It was getting to the point of people messaging her sponsorsher initial mini apology was posted only an hour after the original tweet, well before any of that happened. The initial response wasn't even that negative since the post hadn't reached JP normies yet.>those sponsors admitting that the situation didn't look goodthey never said that, at best they acknowledge that there are events of interests on the dates around that.>politeit's a show, of course it's not always gonna be using keigo. My point is that the word isn't inherently a slur when used to refer to people, not that it is fucking polite language, that would be dumb.>equivalentI never said オス / メス are equivalent to male/females. I said it's closer to that than slurs like bitches or incels.>wouldn't see use outside of doujin or pornFunnily enough, holos often uses mesu to describe other holos, especially okayu or subaru. still not a slur btw>original post>I am interested in the female body, not オスShe's stating her preference here with no contempt, sure with a crude language.She could have said>I am interested in women, not sexually-driven menwhich is basically the same statement with a more polite language, but neither statement is a slur.
>>115705534Holos often call a more feminine version of Subaru as mesubaru. the word is not that dirty anon.
>>115705566How else should I describe your mom politely otherwise if not sexually driven?
>>115705944go to their chat and say mesugaki. It's not a dirty word, nothing will happen
>>115705839You cannot point to me a single example on this earth of misandry having real life harm to any man. It's not real. Just because you want a problem to cry over doesn't mean you're suddenly "oppressed". If that's enough to mindbreak you into thinking I'm some other faggot you've been obsessing over in this thread that's not my problem.>>115705862Cry me a river, you do not have any actual problems. The world caters to you already. A single word does not have any actual effect on your life.
>>115705944
>>115705904>they never said that, at best they acknowledge that there are events of interests on the dates around that.No, lol, that is not what their posts were>her initial mini apology was posted only an hour after the original tweetIt wasn't a real apology. Nobody took it as that>it's a show, of course it's not always gonna be using keigoI'm not saying that, retard. I'm saying the character in the show is obviously rude, so calling him that isn't meant to be a good thing. >My point is that the word isn't inherently a slur when used to refer to peopleIn the context of La+'s Tweet, it was definitely seen as that, though. How would you know, you don't know Japanese>I said it's closer to that than slurs like bitches or incels.Anon, you could accurately translate 女 to bitch depending on context. I would almost universally translate メス as bitch if it's being used towards a woman. You don't know the language>Funnily enough, holos often uses mesu to describe other holos, especially okayu or subaru. still not a slur btwPost proof of them calling their fans it, then. I asked for this a while back and you never provided>She's stating her preference here with no contempt, sure with a crude language.This is supposed to be a post from a corporate account, if you don't realise how comically rude this is, you're stupid and don't know the language. >interestedLol she doesn't say that, what she says is far closer to "women's bodies turn me on/get me going/riled up, while I'm not attracted to beasts/pigs (which is a lie but that's a topic for another day)>but neither statement is a slur.Again, the Japanese agree that she's being rude as fuck. You're clinging to slur though because you already admitted that you think slurs towards men don't exist
>>115706039Ah you're one of those "you can't be racist to white guys" people
>>115706039>You cannot point to me a single example on this earth of misandry having real life harm to any man.Women aborting male children, women cheating on men, women harassing/abusing men knowing they can't fight back, women abusing their male children, etcYou really shouldn't have children or even date a guy ever because you'd be an actual demon to him.
>>115705944I'm sure you can find those Holos calling their fans "mesu" in a serious post then?
the defense for laplus is so comically bad i'd believe it if they were antis falseflagging lmao
>>115706087What even are you saying right now kek holy mindbroken. Every time you faggots pop a vein over someone calling out your chimp behavior you just start throwing darts at random words on the wall.>>115706111>women cheating on men is used as an actual argument of misandry being "real"My fucking sides. That's really the best you have huh? Statistically, men still cheat on women more. By a large margin, and even then women don't use cheating as a reason for oppression against them. Thanks for proving my point, you have no actual problems as a man and this word has no actual harm to your life or wellbeing. And before you say it, no, a woman politely rejecting you after being asked out is not "oppression" or "misandry". You can move on.
>>115706227>women don't use cheating as a reason for oppression against themHow are women LARPing as being oppressed? The average Zoomer woman in America earns more money than Zoomer menAlso lol, you ignored the abortion stuff because even you realised it was indefensible.I mean I have no problem with saying adulterers deserve to be arrested, including all of the women
>>115703502I get your point but personally I've never seen a woman using "moid" in a serious manner.
>>115706227your post>Cry me a river, you do not have any actual problems. The world caters to you already. A single word does not have any actual effect on your life.
>>115706266This poster definitely does, just push "her" a bit>>115706227 The reason they freak out so much about "foid" is that men stole their thunder
>>115703789Why Aisha????????????
>>115706047>apology not good enough isn't relevant since the point of contention was whether she agreed her choice of words could have been better BEFORE a PR disaster>main character is rudeStill not porn or an animal, and definitely wasn't used as a slur>In the context of La+'s Tweet, it was definitely seen as that, thoughJust as there are people finding her tweet offensive, there are also people who have no issue at all with her original tweet. It's up to interpretation, my point is that the choice of word in itself isn't inherently a slur.>them calling their fans itThere were holos addressing their female fans as mesu+fanname on stream. not on twitter though.>This is supposed to be a post from a corporate accountI never disagreed that the language is crude anon. That said, her account is also a character account and that allows for some level of crude language.>Japanese agree that she's being rude as fuckSome does, some didn't. I personally agree that it can be viewed as rude, but my original position was that her statement wasn't necessarily or inherently derogatory.
>>115706407>There were holos addressing their female fans as mesu+fanname on stream. not on twitter though.lying out your ass lmao
>>115706407>isn't relevant since the point of contention was whether she agreed her choice of words could have been better BEFORE a PR disasterIf she did, she would have deleted the post and actually apologised. Let's be real>and definitely wasn't used as a slurIt's used as an insult, of which slurs are considered a part >there are also people who have no issue at all with her original tweet.Get me some native Japanese people who said there were no issues with it and post them here, then. No non-natives>There were holos addressing their female fans as mesu+fanname on stream.Prove it then. Post clips>not on twitter though.Yeah, I wonder why>That said, her account is also a character account and that allows for some level of crude language.Not when making a serious post. Even worse when it's a serious and comically sexist post. >some didn'tThen post them>my original position was that her statement wasn't necessarily or inherently derogatory.Because you're jumping through hoops to pretend it isn't
>>115706265>This generation of women earns more money than this generation of men in this specific first world country, therefore women aren't oppressed!!!Fucking lol lmao, continuing to prove my point with no actual examples of men having real problems. This is why no one takes you seriously whenever you bring up misandry, you never have any examples worth being serious over. >you ignored the abortion stuffWomen get aborted too. In china don't they abort female babies because men are seen as more valuable? And in north korea they give women forced abortions. So you'll agree that women are oppressed then, yes? There really is no part of the world where men have it difficult and no tiny little insult along the lines of "pervert" or whatever is going to have any real world harm against men. You are looking for reasons to be a victim. Misandry will never be real.
>>115706047I'm honestly impressed the tard you're replying to is still at it, trying to spread disinfo when he clearly knows nothing about Japanese and is literally basing his argument around "if you ignore context the word isn't derogatory!"
>>115706478>In china don't they abort female babies because men are seen as more valuable?Yeah, and that's sexist. We don't live in China though. >And in north korea they give women forced abortions.Yeah, and that's sexist. We don't live in North Korea, though>So you'll agree that women are oppressed then, yes?Good job I never claimed this, but your examples are third world authoritarian shitholes, while I'm sure I could pull up women in the West and in your country promoting "it's a girl or an abortion". Because let's be cruel and frank here: women being abused in North Korea does not affect you in any way, shape or form. You being a misandrist in the West is far more of an impact on my life than that.>You are looking for reasons to be a victim.I'm not, I'm simply holding people up to standards and that includes women, although from the way you talk, clearly you don't believe women should be held up to any standard>Misandry will never be real.You're right in front of me
>>115703806I still remember the days when Elon just bought Twitter and everyone thought we'd finally have a forum for public speech without executive meddling...>>115703858Technically true but still a bad look for an idol. The Cover response acknowledges both sides; Laplus had a valid reason to be upset but they also recognize that she phrased her tweet in the worst way possible.>>115703980As a Holofan please don't make us all look bad by saying things like these...>>115704139>I'd guarantee La+ has pushed against some of her co-workers limits considering how over the top she getsDoubtful. She's not a big sempai or a big earner. No way they'd let her make other coworkers uncomfortable.>>115704226I thought オス is essentially calling human males mindless animals??>>115704437You know the worst part? Of all the stars Roberu is the one guy who I could vaguely see posting some insane shit like that>>115704530Idk people did kinda give Cover the stinkeye for not protecting Kiara when her RM persona got groped by that stalker>>115704639The way I heard the story I assumed she was socially pressured into doing it and if she slept with them later it was also due to (unintentional?) coercion.
>>115706504It's a radfem who doesn't even know Japanese arguing about this because La+ managed to drag the gender war freaks to this board. These people are comically evil but can't acknowledge it because their entire ideology is just "men bad"
>>115695449Ao is far more malicious than Lap
>>115695490Anonchama.... she had a major lawsuit and won last year
>>115706768wrong post?
>>115706597>We don't live in China though.And not everyone lives in America, glad we agree the whole world isn't just one country.>sexistStop trying to "but both sides!!" this. It's misogyny. An actual real thing. >You being a misandrist in the West is far more of an impactYour feelings being hurt for 5 seconds is not an actual impact. You're still trying so hard to be a victim but you have no real problems. Misandry is not real no matter how hard you try to make it real. Saying a silly word does not affect you in any way, shape, or form.I'm not autistic enough to go back and forth over every little word when you still can't name me a single system or law in the world that makes misandry real. Nothing is in place in any country specifically meant to keep men in fear and under control. I understand why though, it's because it isn't real.
>>115706618>オスAnonchama.... seriously?
>>115706798>glad we agree the whole world isn't just one country.Neither do I. Where do you live>It's misogyny. An actual real thing.So is misandry. You can cry and write paragraphs but just the way you post on here makes it obvious. Also you don't know Japanese
>>115706788She really got sexual harassment and won lawsuit
It's come from "押忍"Not a fucking male animal Are you out of your mind?
>>115706870That has nothing to do with the current event
>>115706870What are you even talking about? Are you a bot?
>>115704642Jesus, they called her sponsors????>>115704922People (including women) having different opinions. I'm sure some women genuinely don't feel offended or hurt by dick pics even if they don't wanna see them, but some do get really offended.>>115705470>It was getting to the point of people messaging her sponsors and those sponsors admitting that the situation didn't look good.Great, so now we got to the point where incels and Holofans are also pulling the cancel culture stuff on sponsors. Wonderful.>>115706478>In china don't they abort female babies because men are seen as more valuable?I thought that ended with the end of the one child policy>>115706478>And in north korea they give women forced abortions.WHAT THE FUCK!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
>>115706464Why would you delete an entire post when only one word is problematic? Her warning not to sexually harass vtubers despite its content still stands regardless of the word choice.>all insults are slurscmon now anon>JP postshttps://x.com/evo_line/status/2111644358894354803>clip I don't watch clips, I think it was either Subaru or Okayu.There's not much opportunity for them to specifically refer to their female viewers to begin.
>>115706961>>115706918She got sexual harassment in the past is real not fiction like some anon said
>>115706815I don't know Japanese man, I'm not being rethorical I legit don't know.>>115706870qrd?
>>115706858I live in America ;D>So is misandryI can say I'm king of the world all I want, doesn't make it true. You can keep trying to say misandry is real, but there is no real world example of misandry and keeping men oppressed. You cannot name it. My knowledge of Japanese is irrelevant. No word in the world carries enough weight for men to be victims of anything. Get a job, you do not have real problems.>>115707011Yep, the forced abortions are a real thing. You can look it up in some of those documentaries where people have escaped from north korea
>>115707027Go ahead and prove she won some lawsuit for it. Not really relevant to the post you were quoting but I'm just curious if you're as insane as you appear to be
>>115707034Lap doesn't stream much past year because of that shit incident.
>>115707017>Her warning not to sexually harass vtubersThat was not the point of her post>Why would you delete an entire post when only one word is problematic?Why not? I've seen more professional Vtubers do this for far less. You only stand over it because you're proud of her using the word >https://x.com/evo_line/status/2111644358894354803Nice. Check out all of the replies, he's getting roasted>I don't watch clipsSounds like you don't watch streams either. Get me the stream then >There's not much opportunity for them to specifically refer to their female viewers to begin.Most Vtubers aren't getting into fights with fans, yeah. But you're making the claim so get the proof or admit you're full of shit
>>115707034>qrd?pic related
>>115707075Some anon said her sexual harassed was fiction and I just say it actually happened
>>115707045>your bullshitThe definition of misandry is "a hatred of men". That's it. No requirement of oppression. You are inventing definitions for words once again because the dictionary proves you wrongIf you hate men, you're a misandrist. You in particular are one, and are a terrible person to boot >My knowledge of Japanese is irrelevant. It is when the post is about a Japanese post. >No word in the world carries enough weight for men to be victims of anything.I'm sorry you're too stupid to read the dictionary and that some disgusting man know both English and Japanese better than you
>>115707045>Yep, the forced abortions are a real thing.But why do they do that? Population control, political persecution? I'll look it up. God, my heart breaks for the poor people in that tyranny.
>>115707034>I don't know Japanese man, I'm not being rethorical I legit don't know.Hes being a retard. オス is indeed a male animalThe literal retard thinks>>115706903is the same word
>>115707147you said>She really got sexual harassment and won lawsuitCan you prove a single word of this? I doubt it because no one other than you has EVER mentioned it.
Yeah.... Lap actually got sexual harassment in the past.I'm not surprise to end like this actually
>>115707121Read the post again, she ended her post with a warning not to do that to other female vtubers>why not because the original message still stands>I've seen other vtubers do this for far lessprove it>jp postpeople have different opinion, who could have guess.>fights with fansYou don't need to "fight" with fans to use certain words to refer to them. Which is the point.
>>115707206Someone mistranslation and It's out of context to become " fucking male Otaku"
>>115707290Ah ok so you're not even pretending that you're not pretending to be retarded anymore.
>>115707229Anonchama...it's actually Lap big event last year ago?
>>115707260>because the original message still standsHer original message was so bad she had to apologize and nobody realised it was about dick pics because she phrased it so terribly>prove itUsed to oshi Vtubers who would delete their tweets based on not having enough heart marks in them. >people have different opinion, who could have guess.Yeah and opinions seemed to be going far more in one direction that the other>You don't need to "fight" with fans to use certain words to refer to them.Then get any single moment of these girls calling their fans either mesu or osu. I'm waiting
>>115707303This drama is fucking retard from beginning
>>115707310Why is Miko using a diaper????? Thats a bit of a turn off
>>115707342It's a JP joke and Mio go commando
>>115707310don't care about your delusions bro go back to /b/ with your random ass nonsense posts
>>115707395I just want to say Lap really got sexual Harrisonment in the past and not a fictional. She even won lawsuit
>>115707459in your mind.
>>115707331It's not necessarily entirely about dick pics. She could get dick pics and sexual harrassment remarks which urge her to make that post>not having enough heart marksso a completely different situation huh >the opinion I agree with is more popularNot what Im contesting, the statement wasn't inherently derogatory. the fact that there are a lot of people who chose to be offended doesn't change that
>>115707472NTA but the statement was inherently derogatory. You're being a retard and claiming "well it's not derogatory if you look at it in a dictionary!" which is retarded because then "Bitch" is also just a female dog and not a slur
>>115695213Covercuck moment
