Alana the Frostfire Fox shitposter+ discussion of Kirsche and Leaflit included>YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@SmugAlana>Clipshttps://www.youtube.com/@SmugAlanaVtuberClips>VODshttps://www.youtube.com/@smugalanavods>Twitterhttps://x.com/SmugAlana>Twitchhttps://www.twitch.tv/smugalana>Discordhttps://discord.gg/smugalanaLeaflit: https://www.youtube.com/@LeaflitAsari/https://youtube.com/@slimecoreradiohttps://www.twitch.tv/Leaflithttps://kick.com/leaflithttps://rumble.com/c/LeaflitKirsche: https://www.youtube.com/@KirscheVerstahl/https://www.twitch.tv/Kirschehttps://kick.com/kirschePrevious: >>115813664
>>115837055I love my Alana rapewife
>>115837055alananal
Mariagrace is posting the sexual stuff ember would post in their chatshttps://x.com/MariaGraceVT/status/2115261752388563036Is it me or is it kind of tame?
Here before threadshitter
>>115837184stuff like this is weird and different when it's a man pretending to be a woman saying it to women
>>115836447OK that was breddy gud
>>115837184Surely that's not all.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=LPY4_kPZk6Yhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=7ey3xNqUg4kIt's up
>>115837358the 4chan mystery of alana's anus
>>115837184>your based, christian tradwifes, sir
>>115837287How do you figure? I could understand if he was making implications about himself and the girls, but I didn't notice anything sleezy like that.
>>115837061Consent is optional with Alana
>>115837321Apparently not, but she hasn't posted more yet because she hasn't gotten permission from those involved.
Kitsunero:https://www.twitch.tv/kitsunerohttps://www.youtube.com/@KitsuneroRosiebellmoo:https://www.twitch.tv/rosiebellmoohttps://www.youtube.com/@RosiebellmooSquChanhttps://www.twitch.tv/squchanhttps://www.youtube.com/@SquChanBerry Crepe:https://twitch.tv/berrycrepehttps://youtube.com/@berrycrepeMintzey:https://twitch.tv/mintzeymoon/https://youtube.com/@mintzeymoonCypress:https://twitch.tv/vtubercypress/https://youtube.com/@vtubercypressAmalgamytehttps://youtube.com/@amalgamytehttps://kick.com/amalgamytePawshttps://www.twitch.tv/pawshttps://www.youtube.com/@pawsvtuberPowdurhttps://twitch.tv/powdurhttps://kick.com/powdurhttps://youtube.com/@powdurNyanijihttps://twitch.tv/nyanijihttps://youtube.com/@nyaniji
>>115837526Pluglana tongue my anus!
>>115837184I asked my wife, and she said this seems like the fun kind of conversations women can have without men around but would be mortified to find out one of them was secretly a man.
Kirsche comes down on pro-Strawb side, with admonishment about her being an infighting retard in the pastAnd Strawb's post is way too long winded to screenshot. Here's a linkhttps://x.com/darlingstrawbie/status/2115246432101802016
>>115837588Please add that Miia bitch to your spam pretty please! She's smug coded material!
>>115837736I feel like this shit skirts pretty close to the biggest cardinal sin of vtubing in that you never ever dox each other. It's not quite there, but it's pretty borderline.
If they couldn’t tell Ember was a man from the voice changer alone, then that’s on them.
>>115837694>I asked my wifeTell chatgpt, thanks for the input. I guess I can understand if you present as a good girl christ tuber but then are yucking it up at innuendo with the girlies. I just had higher expectations considering maria used such strong language.
will leaflit even stream todayI understand if she doesn't and needs a day off
>>115837803the voice changer was totally for opsec, please understand
>>115837055enjoying a bowl of beef borscht with alanas anus
>>115837746I agree, Miia deserves more love
>>115837736Kirsche's problem is if any part of a drama skirts close to home, she goes full foid. She already thought dudes larping as women with female avatars was gross and weird, and she sees strawb getting blowback for exposing ember as male, so she self inserts as strawb. Therefore, strawb did nothing wrong.I think I'm just gonna skip her next stream because if the ember shit does come up, she WILL crash out on chatters giving her even a modicum of pushback.
Kirsche needs to beat up her dog for downgrading her model
Please spoiler pictures of KirscheIdk how someone with so much money has such a shit model
Hmm
>Shoe chimed in to the drama >Tectones video already has 100k viewsYeah this is breaking containment lol
>>115837949People still watch tectone?
>>115837899Less miia and more miia
>>115837949>Yeah this is breaking containment lolYup, we've got catalogniggers already
>>115837971only total retards
>>115837942>topic of a man pretending to be a woman>w-we should move on to more important thingshmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>>115838208Alana when she finally realizes why I always reply to her with "and his wife? To shreds, you say..." any time she tells me something after we binged Futurama with Miia
>>115838208why is she like this
>>115837184>turning conversations sexual>violated>betrayedOh shit, this is gonna be good.>i'm gonna post THAT gif>oh guuuurl don't you do it xD>i'm gonna do it>do it gurl!>family_guy.gif>she actually did it, the absolute mad woman>I told you i'd do it xPniggah
>>115837421The refreshing mixed berry taste of Alana's anus.
I like Rev why does Rev's wife suck so much? She really is like Tyler1's wife.
grifter general 9/11damage control thread
>>115838442>I like Rev
>>115837913If she took the old design and gave it the new one's details I would love it. Maybe keep the reds instead of the blues.
>>115838516That's a perfectly reasonable opinion and I understand why you wouldn't like him. I am entertained by him and enjoy his consistency on uploading. I want 10 minute drama summaries every couple days that I can scroll through.
>>115837736This sort of forces the chud side into a trans argument and the general acceptance level about a tranny being on their side. If it's still ok to hurt 42% jokes at their expense or if there's ways a chud tranny actually still makes sense. And the people getting mad about how everything was just dropped didn't let there be any real nuance or discussion be had.
I'm sorry bros. Ember could have raped all my favorite chuubas, given them aids, and forced them all to give birth to malformed rape babies, and I would still side with him because of who I would be sharing a side with if I didn't.
>>115838627Lmao of course this gaping axe wound tries to say something>Comes out as trans Nigga he's openly a man not a troon
>>115838627I fear the day that leftists learn to talk without being massively condescending and snarky. FAR more people would side with and support their dangerous views if they had any level of social skills or charisma whatsoever.
>>115838614>you will be okay with a tranny yet still quote suicide statistics against other trannies?yeah, so what? I'm not directing the jab at anyone I have no animosity toward. When I call a darkie committing suicide by cop a dumb nigger I'm not thinking of clarence thomas.
>>115838683when's zentreya gonna come out
>>115838627>SheSomething that seems to be getting lost in all of this is that Ember never claimed to be a troon, as far as I know anywayEmber admits to being a manA perverted, fetishistic, deceitful man
Horrible thread
>>115838754haha yeah dude thats crazyhttps://x.com/ember_paradox/status/2112382684676931863https://x.com/ember_paradox/status/2105490273258397983https://x.com/Leaflit/status/2031093823799960050https://x.com/Leaflit/status/2048789911294062860it sure is great none of this stuff is searchable and archivable
>>115838878>actually used the word girlieFoids really do have zero survival instincts if they couldn't clock the larp immediately.
>>115838208she needs another spanking
>>115837736I'm glad I learned about savvy through kirsche since I can sometimes get a sort of foid second opinion whenever kirsche fumbles the ball due to being too close to the poo.
>>115838627>this faggot hasn't killed himself yetWhy are we cursed to endure this
>>115839099MadamSavage is infinitely more based than Kirsche. Makes sense seeing how she's married and isn't a convert turned pharisee.
I wonder if these girls would've been fine playing with Ember knowing he's a man pretending to be a woman
>>115839314Well we found the imposter at least
>>115839384Holy shit lmao
>>115839314>>115839384>amoguss00s
Youmacon found a literally who-tuber willing to fill Kirsche's empty slot
slime time
>>115839510I'm still convinced this whole bait and switch was planned from the start. There is not a single shot on this fucking planet they did not know about Kirsche and how "controversial" she is.
>>115838627Nyara is setting a trap here that would have the chuds come to defend m'theydy.It's not "trannies to the left -- NO WAIT COME BACK!" or 'you'd be welcome if you were honest about being trans' it's "ywnbaw no ifs or buts"
>>115839551This is what I thought as well, it makes more sense for both sides to draw attention by being "removed" from the a literal who con while kirsche also gets a "omg they're mean to me" sob story to use for content. Kinda pointless now.
>>115839510Why would anyone willingly advertise themselves for this lol
>>115837913Old awoo model has soul but idk it does feel more generic than the new one
Chudcon when?
Why did she do it?
>>115837184>>115837694I don't know if it's because I feel a little bit bad for the weird little fag, but Isn't this just normal female solipsism? 'I feel violated now so the fact of how I felt at the time doesn't matter or is changed retroactively.'Maybe it's because I have low expectations for women, but it seems fine to me. It's just how they are.
>>115837831Time for bath korsche!
>>115839510Would be funny is Stuttering Craig went to her panel. Funnily enough youmacon blocked him and he's straight up going to be there friday.
>>115840300I wonder if they'll try to trespass him from the con when they see him
Leaflit's reaction to the shitshow is about what I expected, to be honest, given her flavor of autism
>>115840498Leaflit is always going to do a cost benefit analysis instead of a moral one
>>115840201I can understand feeling somewhat betrayed because you weren't in the company you thought you were, but saying you feel violated is wild and strikes me as performative. Like, if you acted the way you did because you felt comfortable around the person in question, does it really matter if the person who posted the sex joke you laughed at is a man?
>Leaf wasn't surprised Ember is a dudeGood, at least one of our chuubas isn't a complete retard
>>115840661game recognizes game
>>115838592Disgusting dramafaggot.
>>115839920This nigger is a Cancer.
>>115840622Don't worry, I didn't realise that Strawb was DarlingStrawb as in Rev's fat and degenerate special needs wife. It's obviously performative retardation if it's her, and this isn't normal woman solipsism at all.Honestly surprised any of these girls hangout with this guys pig wife. They are sleazy and disgusting and just absolutely perfect for one another.
>>115840241
>>115837184>>115838279>some people push back and say the logs aren't actually that bad>btw I was sexually assaulted Fucking foids man.
>>115841296Eh I don't think it's that bad. She's not claiming she was "assaulted" here but saying that she was assaulted in the past and it may be affecting her judgement. That seems reasonable enough to me.
>>115837439>>115840201>>115840622This is why people are so scared about this stuff because the fact that he is trans is letting him get away with acting like this.
Is the synthcel actually in Leaflit's Twitch chat trying to pimp his video in there now? I'm using Kick
>>115841325Did you intentionally miss the point? A few people hit her with an 'I disagree' and she pulled out the rape card like niggers pull out the race card.>>115841356>letting him get away with acting like thisI honestly see no reason to care since I'm not directly involved. I expected the logs to show him doing the typical sex pest shit of making actual sexual passes at girls and badgering them for pics. Instead I get some tame shit that would barely pass the PG-13 bar.
>>115837949Asmongold video when?
chimken
>>115837913
People need to understand that foids don't think logically. They base everything on vibes and concensus. The Ember dude did the unthinkable and pretended to be a woman which to foids is a big ick. Many of em waited for the concensus to form which is why they were quiet but as you guys can see the knives are starting to come out after the big girls in the scene said it was open season.
Was the Maria Grace DMs what Tectone was talking about?
young leaflit's voice in this old video is making me feel some kind of way...
>>115841682Probably. I'm not aware of anything else that's supposed to make this worse than just a dude pretending to be a woman online.
>when you're a kid trying to dp, shit is like so hard manI'll be clipping that
So I have to ask is there any evidence that ember is a man other than Strawb asking and ember saying yes?
>>115837736Weirdly enough, though I'm usually a foxu supporter, I think she dropped the ball here
>>115842308ember's word is all we have to go on and we all know how schizo and unreliable trannies are
>>115842308He admits it on his own stream, does a bunch of sobbing, and makes a bunch of comments that suggest he's a repressed gayboi.As long as no actual AGP "lesbian" weirdness comes out, the whole drama is very mild. He shouldn't have tried to do "don't ask don't tell" in an all female discord, but it's also merely improper. Not the catastrophic drama some are casting it as.
>>115842441>He admits it on his own streamOh ok thanks, if it was just Strawbs word (or screen shot or whatever) i would have been suspicious but if he did a stream admitting it then thats that I guess.
>>115842441If nothing else comes out, the actual interactions were mild as fuck. A full blown tranny would have gone way harder.
playing table tennis with alana's anus
>>115842514thats just a spanking with extra steps
>>115838614Very slight pushback, Anon, but AFAWK Ember is straight man not trans. There is difference between mentaly ill person or straight up kinky freak and normal dude RPing as a girl.Maybe I'm retard and 'women' I encounter are all likewise dudes but I don't get why should I now loudly advertise that I have a dick so gals won't won't have a meltie when I see them acting little doiown bad as NEWSFLASH they do.Unless some real sexpest shit drops you won't get me to hate this Ember guy for using fem avatar on-line.
>>115839099checkedIDK if Kirsches stance is as clear cut as you pressent especially since she co-signed Savvy's post w pic rel and link https://x.com/KirscheVerstahl/status/2115296227982012432
>>115837055These couple of threads have sucked so much if you're only here for Alana
>>115843144without having watched any of ember's stream addressing this shit, my read is he's a weird dude that tried to embody the persona of ember parodox too much, almost like some kind of vtuber method actor.
>>115843189>https://x.com/KirscheVerstahl/status/2115296227982012432Wasn't Kir on Strawb's side at first? Can she please not be a retarded woman for 5 seconds and actually tell us how she feels about all of this instead of puking out canned foid statements? Goddamit, Foxu. I expected you to be the smart one out of all of this shit.
>>115841506>rape>racismThe difference is that one of these things is real most of the time.
>>115840201Dunno what would I compare this reversed to men xp other than maybe getting catfished on-line but I doubt I'd have melty over it.
>>115843144It's almost as if people are intentionally trying not to look at it. You have to rub these fanboys face right in it like a dog taking a shit on the carpet.https://x.com/MariaGraceVT/status/2115261752388563036https://x.com/MariaGraceVT/status/2115262264315981853https://x.com/MariaGraceVT/status/2115263311411302511https://x.com/MariaGraceVT/status/2115264098958991733It's never okay to pretend to be a woman to get into female-only spaces. Your own oshis have preached that, or does it no longer matter because it finally happens to one of their own?Where do people draw the line?
The real dama isnt that ember is a manIts that a bunch of female vtubers now have to damage control that they had a male on stream.Thats why theyre freaking out and pretending they couldnt tell from the voice changer.Because if they knew behind the scenes then they willingly did homo collabing. So they have to freak out publically to defend their rep.
Even Juju is chiming in correctly. I hope Kirsche takes time to figure out why people are actually angry at Strawb here instead of mad at Ember. At least Leaflit had the brains to stay neutral and say her energy is better put elsewhere.https://x.com/BananaJuju_/status/2115360358823031105>>115843369Literal nothingburger.
Once the ember story blows over I hope people address the elephant in the room, zentreya
>>115839798I think the oppositeKiba's new model looks like a generic moe anime girl
>>115843369I'm gonna do my best to keep my misogyny in check so I won't comment on protecting muh poor w*men. I can understand being upset to an extent because your friend ended up not being who you thought they were, but maria there comes off as farming for clout. She talked up the discord chats like ember was perving on them when in reality it's just a bunch of tame, cringe interactions.
>>115843322nice repeating numbersAs of 115835203 "Ember lying is bad and calls into question everything he has done", then she kinda self inserts in her first paragraph of >>115837736 pointing out that Strawbs past behaviour is what put people in Ember's camp and finally her agreeing with >>115839099 that S is milking this for attention instead of handling it privately.
>>115843474A neutral statement:>I have people in my DMs trying to dig up dirtA snake in the grass:>I have people in my DMs trying to dig up stuff about HER*
>>115843497zentreya is too big to go after. strawb will only go after other 2views
>>115843520You have to remember strawb and maria are turbo christians publically.So a dude pretending to be a girl, who may be gay, who wrote trans book stuff, is pretty much an ideological enemy. The backstab feeling + foid crashout + burn the heretic emotions are gonna run high.
>>115843369>Your own oshisShit stirrer wibes, no shit stirring here. go make your own thread.>It's never okay to pretend to be a woman to get into female-only spaces.I could understand if you never seen the person , got told you are attending all fem event and then finding out there is impostor but nigga are you comparing online game lobby to women's bathroom rn? I'm all for bit of clowning but this is half the damn circus.
>>115843548Both publicly associate with celestium who is in a corpo with the blacked tranny momma occo. Their purity testing is very selective.
After the recent drama I think it's high time that we take a page out of the street shitter playbook and require every female chuuba to confirm her gender with a bob and vagene picture including timestamp. It's the only way forward.
>>115843509consider the following
Maybe this is a bit of a schizopost since it's nearly 6am and I haven't been to bed yet but I feel like vtubing has went way further off the rails since Filian disappeared. I dunno, having a True Neutral around that wasn't afraid to collab with anybody and just did silly shit 99 percent of the time kind of served as a grounding force and kept everyone from going insane in a sea of kayfabe.
>>115843582>not doing guilt by association means they are guilty by associaiton
>>115843369It's not like this is the McDonalds bathroom though. Put him through the mandatory HR humiliation ritual, etc. etc. and then all is forgiven and he may be allowed back in (is how it should go). Acting like he's about to be persona non-grata in total perpetuity is a bit of a femoid freakout of an overreaction though.
If the reactions on his stream were anything to go by (I peeked in because I was curious what would happen), Ember is still gonna have a fairly dedicated fanbase. The only thing that is probably gonna slow down is collabs, it did not seem like his audience was abandoning ship at all.
>>115843615not just vtubing, the whole world went down the tube after filian disappeared
>>115843604...I'm too much of a pussy to put my account on line as I have frequented chats of many of involved chuubas but you young guns have opprtunity to do the funnies thing and ask via donos for foto proof w timestamp of sex of all streamers involved in this shit calling out Ember for hiding his gender. It's time for TITS OR GTFO
>>115843618The point was, if maria is going this hard on the I FEEL SO VIOLATED angle to try and save face over being friends with what is a tranny for all intents and purposes, then she should also distance herself from celestium who is tied to occo.
>>115843623Will he even come back? Because after all is said and done he's just another cultur war dude #738847362 instead of a based, redhead baddie that shares my fringe political beliefs.
>>115843640Most people in anime land, which includes vtubers, dont care about traps or dudes woth anime profile pics, or even gay/femboy shit because its all standard anime stuff.Chud tubers need to remember this. People may agree with chuds irl but in the online space this is all a nothingburger to most anime peopleI too consider this whole thing to be retarded
>>115843640his viewers have no reason to drop him. him being a dude was an open secret, and maria's discord screenshots were fucking nothing.
>>115843679I noticed a slight uptick in normalfag shit like using real names and selfie pfp in twitter accounts in relation to chud vtubers. The anime aesthetic is a filter but some normalfaggots seemingly manage to get past it, and they care more about politics than the culture they're invading.
>>115843615It was just going to be a couple weeks but she ended up having too much fun in dubai
>>115843673if history serves me right in any conflict like this, they'll just silently retire, wait a few months, change their name, and come back to get pushed by their friends again as a new person
>>115843731>too much fun in dubaiDid she become a permanent bathroom fixture or what?
>>115843369This shit has been a disaster for christcuck vtubers to anyone actually paying attention.
>>115843615If Filian ever comes back and has anything other to say then that she was dying or was kidnapped I fully expect her audience to turn on her. This ARG shit has gone on too long and she doesn't deserve the grace she expects.
>>115843794Her model artists are giving her the reach around.I mean, run around.
>>115843784Culturally defeated by a bunch of retarded, sodomite atheist hippies, that are blitzed on illegal weed over two decades ago for a reason.
Alana won.
This entire thing reminds me of the episode of Cow & Chicken where a mother pulls the wig of a boy wearing a dress while saying "What is the meaning of this?!" And the boy says "But mother, I just wanna be a pretty little girl..." And the mom clenches her fist and shakes it while saying "I'll show you pretty little girl!" Does Alana's tits bounce as much in her newer model as they did in her old one? I haven't had a chance to see any streams or clips of her yet.
I don't get it. Like do I have some kind of turbo tism that doesn't let me understand why people think this whole thing was a big deal? Like a dude was pretending to be a woman and got caught. Are people just hungry for drama or gossip?
>currently watching that leafit conversation with ChatGPT.I'm... surprised. Considering how hard she defends AI, didn't expect her to treat it like that. I know it's supposedly for the 'funsies' but still.
>>115843382You say that, but not a single one of these girls is GFE. They all either homo collab regularly or admit to having boyfriends. I can’t imagine any of their audience would care.
>>115845781Nvm never judge too fast. ChatGPT bringing real, arguable points into this makes the whole conversation kind of interesting.
>>115845742The face Alana makes when you blow a fat load into her
>>115845742>are people hungry for drama or gossip?That's 90% of human history. The other 10% is rape.
>>115840622>does it really matter if the person who posted the sex joke you laughed at is a man?if you're a faithful married woman, yes, that changes the dynamic of the conversation completely.
>>115841682He's been milking Ethan Klein, too, so who knows which cow he's referring to here.
>>115843322Two wrongs don't make a right. Strawb is a psycho bitch and Ember is weird freak.
>Look up this ember character >Videos get like 10k views This is by far the most attention he's ever gotten lol
>>115847159His stream numbers punch way above his youtube numbers but yes the drama got blown way out of proportion thanks to strawb being a retarded snakey bitch and mariagrace making things seem WAY worse than they actually are.
>>115845742This is looking to blow over soon. The two issues being that ember never properly disclosed his gender and let people assume he was a girl, even behind the scene. A little violating in the sense that the trust was built up on misconceptions that could have easily been remedied very early on, but they seemingly purposely didn't for whatever reasons.And strawb's way of deploying all this info was so out of left field and with virtually no tact makes people question her own motive and true feelings if she's willing to sit on and deliberately target members of her own side (or people her side is cool with), you have to question what strawb really thinks "her side" truly is and if you and your oshi are there and "safe".
>>115847376Yeah, if I was one of them bitches I start prepping my own Google Doccy on her just in case.
>>115847442I want to point out the both strawb and maria repeatedly bandied about the phrase "biological man." Then ember comes out and says "I'm a dude." Strawb and maria obviously coordinated and expected ember to "come out as trans," and strawb continues to imply that in her last novella on the topic. Shits weird. Also call me old fashioned, but a dude pretending to be a chick on the Internet is rather a banal sin.
>>115847376>>115847571He literally lied and larped as a girl both in private and public. He wrote a forced feminization tranny rape book and used tranny and crossdressing forums for years. Even in his confession stream he said he was not sure if he was trans and asks for people to still call him she/her. Why are you fags going to bat for a tranny predator so hard? If Phil or Klaus was caught doing this shit you retards wouldn't shut up about it, but because he's "based" he gets a pass for being a gross predator?
>>115847589Strawb did ASMR and one can only assume maria has the typical Christian girl body count. We've been telling women there are not girls on the Internet for decade but they choose to be retarded. Phil or Klaus would have engaged in overt sexpest behavior, something entirely lacking in any reasonable reading of this situation. This is bog standard feminist long house behavior and you're taking hook line and sinker.
Reafrit has essentially stated her stance.
Not gonna lie I don't really care and kind of think both sides are shit and I'm not taking ether side. Ones shit for being a gargantuan liar. The other side is shit for having a public alert out over something that could of been solved in DMs
>>115847589>Tranny predator Strawbs reading. Tranny predators don't say "I'm a dude," they don't apologize, and they don't go out of their way to explain to their own chat why it's ok for Rev to used a female model while what he did was wrong.Was pretending to be a woman a bit shitty? Sure, but you are building up a ridiculous degree of villainy where there is far less to satisfy your own moral indignation.
The more that chudtubers keep having the exact same foid crashouts that we want to avoid from normal Vtubers, the more I wish we just had a male chudtuber. Not a fagbrained dramatuber like Rev or a pseudo-troon like Ember, but an honest-to-god man that likes anime and doesn’t simp for browns and rainbows. Is that too much to ask?
>picture of Norm Macdonald playing a news reporter
>>115848292Yes, it is, anon. Vtubing is a female occupation. Exceptions exist, but they are incredibly rare and often lack any sort of staying power.
Enjoying a succulent Chinese meal with Alana's anus
Alright I think I'm over this Ember shit.
>>115848292Technically Nux fits your description, but no matter how much he calls out degenerates and leftoid Jews, he'll always be loyal to his own people first.
>>115848420The coming out stream was pretty good.I want to pound his prostate while he cries and babbles about his psychosexual confusion.Ember Anal Annihilation.
I drank a white monster and I have yard work!
>>115847376Ember's lack of discretion and honesty is my biggest issue with him. If you're a guy larping as a girl online, it's not hard to just not join the girls-only discord. Yes it should have been obvious he was a man, but it should have also been disclosed by him to anyone he was friends with. Ultimately, the whole thing's stupid and Strawb is still a holier-than-thou Machiavellian bitch who is apparently ready to lash out at anyone she sees as problematic.
>>115848789Hell yeah. Quake 3 was good game.
The thing none of these people want to address is that if Strawb continues to be in the space, she is 100% going to keep doing this kind of shit and tear it apart. She is a female Judas.
>>115848817Tectroon straight up simping for strawb this morning was something else. And again he was asserting predatory behavior that has not been shown. Those fucking chatlogs were a shrimpy Canadian dude trying to be friends gayboi style.
>>115839384Fucking kek.
>>115848904I don't think anyone really wants to defend Ember trying to go stealth behind the scenes. It's just a question of how bad an act it was.Worth a firm scolding and lost trust? Absolutely.Worth expelling him from the sekrit girl club discords? I think so.Worth the hysterics and equivocation to rape? Doubtful from what we've seen so far.
>>115848386In what possible. Fathomable. Arguable. Understandable. Universe did anon mean by this?
LOL
>>115849124He wants to see democracy made manifest, maybe get his penis touched.
>>115843322>the smart onethats juju
>>115849129>
>>115848817This is the point that gets me. Everyone knows Vtubing is a predominantly female industry with a few outliers. Faggots like Rev being an example of those using a female avatar ironically is an example because he's at least upfront about the fact that he's a man using a female avatar. Not even addressing the elephant in the room Zentreya, when you actively use a voice changer to hide the fact that you are indeed a man it is now in the territory of intended deceit and it's not even debatable.There was never any intended discourse to explain that Ember was indeed a man and this is nothing new in this industry because there have been plenty of men pretending to be women in the past. The tranny side of the argument is retarded because this isn't some bathroom issue unless the guy is actually outed for sending DMs of his shclongadong to other female vtubers. Hell, maybe he's the one who sent a dick pic DM to another vtuber recently, who knows. One thing is without question, people don't like being lied to, especially people who consider you in their inner circle of friends/associates. That breaks people's trust and perception of what else you could be lying about. If anything this is less a sexual argument and more so a moral argument.
>>115849129>oh my god I am so upset at my former friends>the exact twitter approved hatelistSo this bitch is just pushing out a contextless vaguepost hit? How much more transparent can you be?She might as well have said "I used to be a Kirsche fan, BUT".
>>115849432He said he forever trusted them, then in the next post below says right wingers aren't allowed in the vtubersphere. It's literally just a grifter trying to get clout from this drama
I'm a centrist, but I would never EVER contradict a revolutionary socialist talking point.
What did Tectone say?
>>115843322Kirsche's entire deal seems to be seething that was lying about being a man the entire time. Strawb and Maria tried to paint Ember as some sort of sicko and predator when by all evidence shown so far he probably isn't. Either way Savvy is more trustworthy to Kirsche than Strawb and Maria apparently.
>>115850466Everything and nothing but in a louder tone
>>115849315Rev needs to reign in his wife.
>>115850544So no new info or smoking gun?
>>115850469Leaflit is also very trustworthy here. She's trying not to get too involved, but her statements heavily suggest she hates what Strawb did and thinks there's a lot of dishonesty at play here.
I read Strawbs 'final' post regarding everything and I agree with her on a lot of it, I just think she shouldn't have outed him like that. I know they weren't friends but Ember having her back in every situation should have been enough for her to at least message in private first, then if he denied, she could expose him
Savyy has spoken.
>>115850812If Strawb wasn't comfortable confronting him why not have Rev do it?
>>115850715He can't because she knows all his incest-loli-degen secrets from before they leaned into the faith angle.Strawb is overcompensating for who she used to be when they got together, and now she holds all of the cards because of it. She could end him at any moment.
>>115850469>all the evidence shown so far he probably isn'tthe evidence actually shows that he's an AGP fetishist into forced feminization and looks up to f1nn5ter's exact same method of going tranny
>>115850916>f1nn5ter's exact same method of going trannyEmber fucking wishes he had oilers obsessed with egg cracking.
>>115850916Ember if you are here, you are man you will never be a woman.
>>115850872That is an excellent question. Probably should have been her first instinct as a good Christian wife.
>>115850983Don't listen to him. We can make you worse!Anons will gladly ravage your butthole while you cry about how confused and lonely you are.
Nothing is more Christian than partaking in gayops.
>>115843613LICKA
Thank you to both Leaflit and Powdur for being super reasonable in all of this. Second only to Nyaniji. It makes me happy to see people with their heads screwed on who can look at things objectively.
>>115851351Powdur was too busy humiliating another ESL with a cuck fetish to care
>>115843623Yeah, now that I've slept on it I think his kayfabe went too far and hopefully that's all it was, but who knowsThe forced transition fiction stuff is fucking weird, but I'm not sure if it's really here nor there
>>115849309New theory Ember is the one who sent their dong to La+
Alana should grow a cute little girl penis
Alana is getting spanked by her parents againhttps://x.com/SmugAlana/status/2115514330720637387
Shoe's reply to Yuki's reaction to Tectone's video
buy an ad, faggot
>>115851572what did she do this time
I think Savvy needs to get hold of Kirsche and slap her around a littleThough I understand that this whole thing triggers foxu in 2 different ways (both the lying and the AGP shit)
https://x.com/MoonshineKim/status/2115515412997915047anus in space
Tomoe about to incur the full wrath of green reddit
>>115851679Shoe doesn't understand the specifics of what actually happened.In other news, fork found in kitchen.
>>115851858I thought savvy was anti ember?
>>115851858Kirsche is the archetype of woman as nature's eugenicist. She hates the gays, and she especially hates the femmes. Even before the lying she's out for blood.If she didn't have such a bad childhood, she'd be the kind of woman who divorces her husband because he cried at a funeral. Weakness must be purged, etc.This take is perfectly consistent for her, how is that problematic in the slightest?It's objectively true Ember is a freak and shouldn't have lied about it. Foxu doesn't need correction.
>>115851983please get some jap artists to do their thing
>>115851679Kek shoe really should just debut a vtuber model at this point
>>115852023Because Strawb is going to keep fucking shit up the longer she sticks around, dumbass. This has shown the content of her character. Her unwillingness to acknowledge her fuck-ups and instead to defend it shows she will do this again and again. If people defend her, she has no reason to change.
>>115851858kirsche literally said nothing wrong here
>>115851919Stinking up the galaxy
>>115848292There’s always e;r, but he usually just games with his little bro johann since he got tired of doing video essays.
>>115851679>Shoe went from being full on pro trans to the point of hating JK Rowling to asking JK to make Malfoid canon and having a clear disdain for troonsNow that's character development
>>115852023>Kirsche hates the gaysI don't think you have ever watched a stream if you think that.
>>115852055>you're either team Strawb or team anti-StrawbFalse. Kirsche is being Kirsche, teams have nothing to do with it.
>>115852290Then explain why she hates ember.
>>115852290>but she gets along with retirees and gays who also hate the gaysWow, much debunk, such insight. You're right I've never watched a single stream.
>>115851679Shoe just doesn't understand VTubing culture.
>>115852315Because ember was lying. Kirsche fucking HATES liars. But it was also lying about his gender and having kinks associated with said lying about his gender. Like why the hell wouldn't kirsche dislike ember? Like her own twitter posts says this is the kind of person she talks about frequently on stream
>>115852290Foxu is extremely attracted to the gayest flamboyant Nomura dressed prancing la la homo men and seethe when she finds out they are in fact homosexuals.
>>115852358What is she wrong about?
In case anyone is wondering where the piss fox at
>>115852558Guess I'll watch powder til foxu starts
haven’t been a fan of strawb since stronny pointed out how much of a retarded faggot she is in a members
>>115852607>>115851572
>>115852658>stronnyWait, what? When'd she say anything about Strawb?
how do niggers this retarded exist
pa paya paya pa paya paya pa paya
>>115852686zatsu stream. made fun of her for being christian and having negative feelings on pornography. theres a rumor floating around that the two had to make up privately
>>115852696"Let me clout farm off you like parasite."
>>115852294kirsche is team anti-liar
>>115852696God what an embarrassing retard>I also sent this to other people And???? How the fuck would Powdur know that you retarded fuck
>>115852696as someone who doesn't watch powdur at all and doesn't care, this niggers are hilariously pathetic and transparent
>>115852658I wouldn’t take it too seriously. Stronny said a ton of insane shit in those streams. She went to the hospital because losing her privacy was too much for her
>>115852784>this niggersthese. fuck my retarded brain
>it was just allegations>but she does have an onlyfans!!!!!>it was just a joke
>>115852824Stronny also said that private discords where talents could interact with viewers were bad and banned them for the rest of the talents, and then let herself have one with private streams in it where she interacted with those fans.She is herself a hypocrite so I would take most of what she says at arm's length.>t. /vag/ knower
>>115852569The ketchup soothes the hiccup dinosaur
Okay this guy might actually be retarded lol
>>115852935woman moment
>>115852840This faggot needs to be put to work. Having him dig and pick up trash at a job site is infinitely more productive than whatever the hell this is. You're not the next turkey tom retard!
Why do some chuds completely oppose sultriness? A woman being sultry is automatically porn?
>>115852980>to prove the of was realBut....it being real doesnt matter of theres no content in it.What a faggot
Ember got outed as a man. When are they going to out leaflit as a man?
>>115853070Zoomers dont know the difference between ecchi and hentai. Because fanservice died in the 2000s, the middle ground of "sexy but not porn" died and things are either degenerate or wholesome, with no in between. Its like how people freaked the fuck out at powdur and leaflit for having lewd anime channels on their discord. "Muh minors are seeing sex. Theyre 15 how could you endorse them seeing anime tiddes" they genuinely think its equal to active grooming.People like that would vote for internet wide ID in a heartbeat.
>>115853192Leaflit is not a manLeaflit is a woman or at worst, a genetic mistake (but actually). The treatment, approved by doctors for genetic mistakes is to support the body by seeing how its trying to present (regardless of chromosomes) and helping it properly present that way. For the explicit purpose of blending in Its not trans if your body genuinely, unironically, doesnt understand what the fuck to do with a y chromosome and you grow up with a natural female build and a micro peen. Docs are like "well shit, may as well go full woman. Youre probabaly sterile anyways (most are)
>>115853294>girl>likes fighting games as a kid>knows about competitive evobro is textbook tranny
>>115853315tomboy
>>115853315Explain botan
>Vtubers shoe watches Alana Rosie Yukiwaru Rev
>>115850763Of course she's not going to say shit, she built her space on very fragile ice that she can't have an opinion without backlash.As much as she would like to say that trans people kicked her out from their vtubing spaces in the past and makes up the majority of her history and that's why she's more right wing now, an insignificant number of her friends are still trans to this day.She's going to protect her bag while letting everybody else fight it out and then form an opinion when whoever is the most popular person wins.
>>115853422Kitsu, too, I think
>>115853433Imo no reason to purity spiral.Leaf is half libertarian (look at all her mentis wave reactions) so of course shes pro "do what you want with your body" and mildly against doing it to kids and left wing forced propaganda. Expecting more from her is like demanding a normie to like mussolini
>>115852048Nah it's extremely lame when fleshies that have been flesh streaming for decades suddenly want to join in the vtuber trend and get a model.Also is shoe an anime fan anyways? I know she was on 4chan but the deep anime core has been nearly gone for a long time now.>>115852696"I sent it to many others" Doesn't he realize that makes him look even more pathetic?
>>115853433Isn't she a Filipina hermaphrodite? She isn't even American.
>>115846392Maria's husband seems to agree as well kek.This ember shit has turned into a 9/11 for christcuck vtubers. Thise good christian girls are just typical foids.
>>115853618Shoe is one of the original larpers from the mid-2010s. People are just too dumb or were too young to know.The idea that anybody glazes her in the slightest or regards her opinion as listenable is pure retardation.
>>115853422Squ as well, pretty sure
>>115853598I mean, the only coherent version of transgenderism is actually transhumanism - the total subjugation of nature to will. Plenty of right-lib foundation for that sort of position.
>>115853662Shockingly people do change as time goes onShoe went from liberal dating an athiest youtuber (armored skeptic) to a mother. Her opinions on things changed. She literally said in a video she used to defend black crime and homeless people until she had her baby and was like "oh god this is dangerous"
https://www.twitch.tv/smugalanaanus
>>115853712Yeah. Especially when there's money involved.The amount of people I've truely seen ever change in their life for the truthful and better I can count on one hand.The rest change because either because they got tired of having the shit beat out of them or because they needed to pretend in order to gain something someone else owns.
>>115853712>women change their principles like they change their clothesIt's good she arrived somewhere half way sensible for now, but it's just all the more reason why women shouldn't be in positions of power.
I asked Gemini how should a good Christian act when someone they know sin. You guys think Strawb or Maria Grace acted Christ like?
>>115853712On a second unrelated point, the amount of young people who tell me that people like PewDiePie and Tyler1 are such great people now after they had children and got older is such a disgusting metric.Like they completely forgot that Pewds made his entire multi-million dollar career yelling rape nigger rape rape nigger to children.In the worst extreme it makes me think that if Hitler, (yes going straight to Godwin's Law to speed up the conversation), had done the stuff he did first and then did the painting, veganism and animal rights second people these same people would be out there fighting to defend that he was a great person because they have such a selective memory and zero object-permanence.People often do not change their core beliefs no matter how much they actually mask them to others. It is not something that actually happens often except in extreme circumstances. It's not normal nor standard and should not be expected.
>>115853768>everybody is stuck in their ways unless they can get paidNot everyone is autistic. Especially women, the most emotional, change based on feelings, gender
>>115853805Someone needs to send this to them and see how they crash out. Like people are saying two wrongs don't make a right.
>>115853890>pewds made his money yelling rape niggerNow this is schizoposting
>>115853712>>115853778>no children - the conflict is going to hurt a woman's competitors while helping select powerful mates, becoming war spoils counts as winning with respect to evolution>have children - stability and security are vital, and she now has a real genetic stake in existing male hierarchiesIt's such a common thing for women to swing from left to right after having children that leftoids spill a lot of ink over how to either prevent motherhood or interrupt maternal bonding.
>>115853943How old were you in 2010?
>>115853984but i did have breakfast this morning
>>115853984Bro he was yelling at barrels playing amnesia and was part timing as a hot dog vendor. He was so normie people reflexively hated him for being generic slop content at his early years
>>115853936I sense a lot of pride (Superbia in Latin) from Strawb. I feel she uses the word of God as a Shield for her actions. There's no grace, no sense of mercy, no love. A good Christian would have talked with Ember in private to let them know that they know they a Man and that they need to apologize to the community for what they did. Because pretending to be a woman in women's spaces is no good. But the way Strawb handled this is not what Jesus would want us to do. I have no idea what Bible she reads but it isn't the Gospel because there's many, many, many times where Jesus and his Apostles condemn what she does.
>>115853984don't remind me m8
>>115854027Lol, okay I got you.>>115854029Yeah, he was a prime wanker and then people started copying his style of screaming and being loud while yelling every random obscenity they could find and this pattern continued in content generation for years. If nothing else, that bridge on PUBG saved his life.
Man this guy is really upset a troon got outed huh
>virtual meet up>you want to hear me say a slur before you go?
>>115854043>Because pretending to be a woman in women's spaces is no goodThis didn't happen according to juju, apparently they left out that there were men in those chats too.
>>115854043It's just callout culture with a +1 to holy for extra moral grandstanding. also, the thing that's practically buried now is strawb launched this attack on ember alongside a far leftist vtweeter going after ember. they were arguing with ember when strawb came in with the steel chair like some kind of tag team partner. She is not to be trusted.
>>115854158Oh wow is that true? If that is the case then Maria Grace lying?! That's a big no no as a Christian. She honestly needs to stay away from social media and go to confess because she has definitely sinned. Good Lord, she and Strawb are literally acting like Pharisees. Wow.
>>115854142The only people that would be upset over the ember shit are women. >OMG I THOUGHT YOU WERE SAFE TO HAVE GIRL TALK WITH AIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEMeanwhile, what would a dude have to be upset about if they weren't being led on romantically? This is just like mmo shit where the cute catgirl avatar tells you they're a guy and you're just like, yeah I figured.
>>115851351>Second only to Nyaniji.I was happy about all three of their takes, but her take was the most surprising to see. She is a great up and coming chuba!
>>115854158Celestium?
>>115854142It's been really funny watching him continuously move the goalposts since the other day.
>>115854158But its still extremely weird and no wonder real woman would feel discomfort if she find out that the girl she was talking to is a man. I dont get it... if you feel insecure by your voice or you want to be completely anonymous then sure, use voice changer but use a male voice and admit it that you are in fact a male and you can still use female avatar, nobody cares about that. Rev does it...
A guy invading women spaces by lying not being treated serious because of culture war is insane.
>>115854331Not as funny as watching dumb trad cath larping women reset anti christian sentiment to 90s levels.
>>115854375I'm starting to be convinced it's actually Ember here trying to damage control
>>115854375But everyone agrees it's at least a little serious. The differences are only in degree, not in type.
Alana is chudding about activists in game development todayThis is nice
>>115854351>its still extremely weirdnta but yes, it is weird. It's fucking weird even, but's a personal matter to be sorted out in private among those involved. Everything beyond that seems to just be foids trying to clout farm. I've never been more glad to be a woman hater because it seems to be making me immune to this retarded BUT HE INVADED WOMEN'S SPACES faggotry. And that's before it came out that those women's spaces weren't actually women only.
*hits blunt*What if this ember thing is just an op by strawb's christian girl group to struggle session celestium?
>>115854465Alana calling people fags in dungeon raids
>>115854647She's just like me
>>115854142>>115854331>>115854417It really comes down to which you hate, women or trannies. If you hate trannies, you're going to excuse strawb and maria's behavior.If you hate women, you're going to excuse ember's behavior >what if you hate women AND trannies?I can't say for sure. I need go on twitter to grind my tranny hate level before I can answer that question.
>>115854417Wouldn't be the first time this board has had streamers come and defend themselves while pretending to be dozens of different people.Didn't even consider it, because imo, Ember is still pretty much a "literally who?"
>>115854700>what if you hate women AND trannies?I can hate Ember, Strawb and Maria for inflicting us with useless drama for the next week.
>>115854738>for inflicting us with useless drama for the next weekIn that case the only one you have beef with is strawb. She's the one that sat on this and chose to put this knife in ember's back as he was pvp'ing with a lefty so the chud space could implode and the lefty vtweeters could victory lap.
>fuck me dudeI'm in bros
>constantly trying to force team picking and false dichotomiesPlease go back to whatever leftoid hole you crawled out of. Your gayops are tiresome.
>>115854351>But its still extremely weird and no wonder real woman would feel discomfort if she find out that the girl she was talking to is a man.Sure, but this happens all the to men we just don't make a big deal out of it unless something truly bad happened. it's not cool to lie about being a chick, but its worse to make a big public spectacle about someone being a "tranny" who's invading "female spaces" when both those things turn out not to be true. two wrongs don't make a right, and what's even worse is someone using another's sins to lie about them and publicly humiliate them while claiming to be christen because it outs you as a fake and a hypocrite who's only using the faith for clout. Ember was in the wrong but it's just funny how both Strawb and Maria end up coming out as worse because of how they fumbled this whole thing, it's kind of impressive honestly.
>>115854585No, Strawb is a quintuple agent actually working for that con that banned Kirsche. Notice how nobody is talking about that even though things were starting to heat up quite a lot?
>>115854785This drama isn't even entertaining, Strawb's drama with Powdur was more entertaining than this because there were proper back and forth. Everyone is too passive and Tectone is trying to dump gasoline on a single spark.
>>115854785Nothing of this would happen if ember did not pretend to be a woman. Sure you can argue that straw could DM him but still. Mayor fault for all this shit is on ember. I get that people hate to see all this "friendly fire" but maybe just idk dont lie to you audience ? What if next one is powdur and we find out that she really fucks niggers. Would you still hate the person who exposed her ? Straw seems to like drama, sure. But the fact that some people shit on her more then on ember is crazy for me.
>>115854822>constantly trying to force team picking and false dichotomiesThat's probably what strawb sought to achieve by turning what should've been a private intervention into a public circus, yes.>this happens all the to men we just don't make a big deal out of it unless something truly bad happenedIt's kind of revealing that women don't have genuine friendships. Dudes have gone through this kind of bomb drop countless times in mmos and the only times it actually matters is when one side wanted something romantic out of it. If it was just a friendship then nothing really changes.
>>115854833they come out worse only because people like powdur and leaflit would swipe out any wrong doing in right wing vtuber sphere for a sake of short lived peace and unity. There is a line between "not being dragged into civil war over tiny bullshit" and "not being a cuck and excuse liars all the time"
>>115854700>I need go on twitter to grind my tranny hate level before I can answer that question.>not being max level from passive xp gains after nearly 20 years of tranny bullshit
>>115854948>you can argue that straw could DM him but stillCould argue? Nigga, she did it to inflict maximum damage in as wide an areas as possible. If ember had been acting like a creepy sex pest then it would justify outing him this obnoxiously. But maria already posted the worst she could come up with and it was fucking nothing. This is nothing but a pointless distraction just so a lefty turned christcuck can clout farm.
>Jeet scammers are doing ransom spam report attacks against bodycam and dashcam channelsIf these Izzat farmers take my car crash Wednesday from me, the things I'll do to New Delhi will make Genghis Khan blush
>>115855104>they come out worse only because people like powdur and leaflit would swipe out any wrong doing in right wing vtuber sphere for a sake of short lived peace and unity. There is a line between "not being dragged into civil war over tiny bullshit" and "not being a cuck and excuse liars all the time"No, they come off as worse because of their own blatant lies and actions, even if Powdur and Leaflit, and Juju had said nothing they would still look just as bad because they are claiming to be christen while doing this shit.
>>115855104>excuse liars all the timenta but I just do not care about someone lying about something that doesn't matter. >the vtuber with the voice changer that insisted they were a girl turned out to be a manwow, shocking. and? call me for shit like, kirsche lied about leaving her home due to credible death threats. That's the kind of lie worth giving a shit about.
>>115855223look up @TigernachTora video. Ember many times openly lied about being a woman.What do you thing it would be ideal scenario here. Lets say straw would DM ember telling him to be honest with his fans and then what ? Ember would admit publicly that he is a in fact a man wouldn't that still give lefties ammo to attack us ? Do you thing there would be no drama ? How could they sort this shit out with a less damage possible and being honest to us ?
>>115855295if someone lies about that then how can i trust him with anything ? Just keep pushing the goalpost, just keep allow people to do or say whatever.
>>115855346I don't need to look up any dramaslop farmer's videos, I've been looking through receipts myself as they've been posted. I saw nothing that justified strawb going the route she did if she truly acted out of concern for anyone involved.>What do you thing it would be ideal scenario hereI'll do you one better and give you the worst case scenario where strawb confronts ember in private and ember refuses to come clean. In that scenario, strawb can do her public callout but use softer language and express concern for all parties involved.
>>115855474>if someone lies about thatAbout what, being a female behind a female avatar? It's not a big enough deal for me to then question everything the person tells me.
>griftone is the blacked octopus fags stream. Okay i can understand occo talking about it his shit is but what the actual fuck does tectone have to say?
>>115855629is in* man i am just off today.
>>115855629Tectone is just in it because he can spin it into some wild sounding drama to farm off of. It's all he does.
>>115855252>Jeet scammers are doing ransom spam report attacks against bodycam and dashcam channelsConsidering how man CDL related deadly accidents they're attached to, I can imagine why. Anytime they get exposed they desperately want to make sure people don't see it regardless of how scummy the way they take it down. Remember the shit throwing festival and how they reacted when they found out normal people don't approve of their Nurgle like activities? A lot of the damage control in this thread right now feels a lot like the same, complete with grammatical and spelling errors.
>>115855507>Just let people get away with the little lies, it totally won't lead to worse more predatory liesPeople like you are why we don't have high trust society anymore.
>>115855629>>115855665kektone has been milking the FUCK out of this. I figured he wanted to make himself something of a 2nd asmon to chud tubers, and this pretty much confirms it for me. Dude is a blatant grifter.
Alright I figure I'll dump my full opinion on this shit because I'm tired of reading everyone chase each other in circles over it.>EmberA weirdo faggot who was clearly taking his larp way too far. Not sure if he's just a faggot or a full blown trannoid but he clearly isn't quite as insane as the typical raving trannoid in any case. People have a right to be weirded out by his behavior and not trust him after this (personally I'm not as bothered by it because I'm used to males using female avatars all the time being an MMO player but normalfags don't have that kind of exposure usually).>StrawbI've thought for quite a while this cunt is a snake. She is CONSTANTLY entangled in some drama or another, and this is just another in a long long list of her stirring shit for clout. If all the info that's come out about this is true, she sat on this and waitied to deploy it at the precise moment it would go the most nuclear. Did not care for this cunt in the slightest even before all of this started.>MariaMaria seems nice from the few times I've seen her, I think she was likely pressured/convinced by Strawb to help frame this situation in the way that they have. Unless there's something more we don't know about (which is possible I guess) what we've been presented with is weak as fuck as far as the trannoid "creepiness" scale goes.Everyone else is mainly just third parties offering opinions.
>>115855749>it totally won't lead to worse more predatory liesYou sure you want to engage in this kind of slippery slope thought crime shit? You can surly see the logical conclusion of that line of thinking, right?
HAHAHAHA KEK I LOVE WATCHING PICKMES GET FUCKED LETS GO!
>>115855766>I think she was likely pressured/convinced by Strawb to help frame this situation in the way that they haveDoubt she was pressured. More like gassed up. >don't you feel betrayed? don't you feel VIOLATED? go off, girl!So she said some dumb shit. Then when people started poking holes in her dumbshit, strawb came in and tried to help her damage control>okay yes it wasn't a girls only space, there were some men, b-but the men were our hubbies!
>>115855789If a person gets caught lying they deserve to be called out. What kind of moral free Hell zone of a third world country do you live in? You make it sound like this person is getting death threats and dragged out into the streets like Gaddafi. If you build your career on a lie then you have nobody to blame but yourself for building the foundations on something as solid as sand. In civilized society we have this thing called personal responsibility.
>>115855823what's the matter vauge boy afraid you'll say something? Seriously all three of the smug chuubas are all fine. This isn't Captain America vs Ironman this is mystique vs iceman.
>>115855766I honestly don't care about Ember or Maria.Ember is a nobody by-in-large and didn't do anything too horrible.Maria is someone I've literally never heard of outside of this event and is secondary.Strawb is the one who is constantly starting shit and is the root cause of all the friction even outside of the Ember situation.
>>115855935>You make it sound like this person is getting death threats and dragged out into the streets like GaddafiSorry man but I'm not going to gloss over maria trying to paint ember like a predator that was being sleezy to her and the other girls. I tolerate MeToo shit far far less than I tolerate some weirdo pretending to be a girl online.She said he would make things sexual. Turns out it was just tame innuendo she egged on. She said she had more, and worse examples. She has yet to show any of it.
wow, this schizo really hates Rev's wife lol
>>115856045>>115855856If Stawb wasn't Rev's wife and was just some other random chuuba she would have gotten kicked out of every vtubing space a long time ago for being such a drama whore.
>>115856107If strawb wasn't rev's wife, rev would be turning her woke ass into content.
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