I will tell you why and it's very simple.Imagine the whole vtuber sphere as a hostess club. You pay money to the hostess girl and they pay attention to you in whatever form they can give you and with what you want. You know it's fake and they are just acting and also there are many other people paying for her time and attention but you are all one big blop of an audience to her so she gives her whole attention to you all as one entity. With all that you have a good time. She has a good time too if she enjoys it.With the case of homocollabing, now imagine a male host joins while you are with the hostess. From then on you have to watch the hostess pay attention to him that male host with the whole time you paid for her. Essentially paying to be ignored. With all that you are not having a good time but only she and the other guy is.
>>115893431It's more of a brothel but I get ya
>>115893431>Imagine the whole vtuber sphere as a hostess club.No thank you
>>115893431vtubing is almost a decade old hobby yet some people actually still dont get this
>>115893431Man, incels are such crybabies. This is why no one will ever date you, by the way.
>>115893431>>Imagine the whole vtuber sphere as a hostess club.that's literally your problem
>>115893431This but vtubers
>>115893431>ImagineNo, why would I imagine that?
Vtubers are all whores larping as anime
It was a good effort anon, but modern vtuber fans are all NPCs with aphantasia. They'll just short circuit and start throwing buzzwords around if they're made to experience something they don't understand.
>>115893431Ok yea you know what, that makes sense
Holo is such fucking trash dude its unreal There's no difference between niji and holoBoth disgusting garbage
>>115893431the song sucks shit she should feel bad about it
>>115893721Why are you not helping Axel to make his new cover not lose to Kiara?
>>115893431>From then on you have to watch the hostess pay attention to him that male host with the whole time you paid for herBut you don't. In your comparison, a more apt case is that you saw the female hostess with a male hostess because one random guy paid for them together once. And now you can't get that image out of your head. But this is your problem.
>>115894332Cuck cope
>>115894187>There's no difference between niji and holoTRUENIJIHOLO LOVE
>>115893431all im getting from this is that to be cucked by a vtuber, you have to be thinking like a cuck in the first place
>>115894458>I'm not thinking about being a cuck I'm self-inserting!
>>115893431It also works the other way with homosisters but even stronger.
>>115894458>I don't watch Holostars streams, because I cannot self-insert as them otherwiseWe know homobeggar
>>115895217No, it really doesn’t. You wish it would, but it doesn’t.
>>115895291>doesn't know the nature of womenNgmi
>>115894458>I'm not a cuckhold as long as I think I'm not oneFucking lol
>>115895158>>115895251>>115895379thanks for the supporting arguments cucksnow stop forcing your homosexual fetish on the public
>>115895580I bet that cuck chair is really comfortable for you kek
>>115895687i refuse to further participate in your humiliation fetish
>>115893431The issue is simple. If a dude enters a space with other dudes. Normal dudes. He needs to be hazed. We can't do shit in chat cuz the boss is a fucking woman. We just get tossed into the shadow realm for not being ballless softies.
>>115893431oh shit i didn't know this was tower of Ai, that song is a fucking banger. i might actually need to listen to this. If it's good the homo collab is forgiven.
>>115893431Hololive girls are not hostesses though, they are streamers
>>115893431>homocollabing is wrong because I'm an incel who pays a girl that doesn't care about me at allKek
>>115893431Using this mindset is why most of you are miserable
>>115893431Myron, we know it's you blud. You didn't rant enough when she mentioned Octavio before, now look at what happened, this one's on you bro. You should've ranted louder and crazier, otherwise this is what happens.
>>115895750I accept your concession.
>>115893431she's not gonna fuck you incel
>>115893431Why homocollabing is good.I will tell you why and it's very simple.Imagine the whole vtuber sphere as entertainers. You spend time and sometimes money watching these entertainers do things. Sometimes they are funny, sometimes they sing well, sometimes they are just cute.With the case of homocollabing, now imagine a male entertainer joins the stage for a brief time. Now they are able to sing songs that would be difficult or impossible to do with one gender or voice type. The humor in the comedy can be different. There could even be cute sibling style interactions; new sides of your favorite entertainer you couldn't see otherwise. Or you may dislike the new person and just skip that day's show. After all, there is still solo entertainment from them. They aren't collabing 24/7. It isn't a big deal.
>>115893431>I will tell you why and it's very simple.>Imagine the whole vtuber sphere as a hostess clubSo if you imagine your oshi as a prostitute you get cucked? Unicorns are really evil scumbags and bad peopleWhat if I imagine my oshi as a vtuber? It's simple then, I don't get cucked.
>>115896405Him and the incest jokes about her brother have a good chance of being what made her go nuclear and start interacting with the guys more
>>115894095>modern vtuber fans are NPCs with aphantasiaPicture this: you're bragging about your supposed highly developed and creative mind and the only use case for it that you present is imagining yourself in cuckold scenarios.
>>115893431Some male streamers and ecelebs (especially in esports) have been found out to be massive sexpests. And male collabing usually invites the worst possible viewers into a fanbase to shit up the whole place.
>>115893431>Imagine the whole vtuber sphere as a hostess clubThat’s parasocialism. Vtubers are essentially no more than voice actors playing a role just to entertain, nothing more.
>>115896821lollmao even
>>115897086Why esportsI thought only the Smash scene was bad
>>115893431Idol sphere*
Why homocollabing is good:It makes unikeks seethe
>>115897524this. I don't even watch vtumors
>>115893431You sound mentally ill, are you okay?
>>115893431I'm having a good time when losers like you are having bad time
>>115893431>Imagine the whole vtuber sphere as a hostess clubIt's not. It's more like watching a sitcom. You don't get pissed and cry about being cucked because the lead actress has a husband.Your mental illness is your own fucking fault.
>if you imagine yourself being cucked you are a cuckoldWhy is this always the angle unicorns push? Are they unable to not self-insert themselves in cuckoldry every chance they get?
firstly i would advise you to stop paying money if that's how you feel
>>115893431>Imagine the whole vtuber sphere as a hostess clubNo wonder almost all anons /here/ are closet cucks or faggots.
>>115898282Unicorns secretly crave the sweet ecstasy of being cucked; if the chuuba doesn't deliver, they subconsciously change to others who will.
>hololive doing male collabs>small corpo girls who said they'd never do male collabs doing male collabs>gfe tubers joining corpos with males and doing collabs with them>ironmouse's group will probably do male collabs tooSoThe economy is getting a LOT worse, dunno if you looked at the stock market lately. Let's just I'm gonna have to cancel memberships and male collabers are first on the chopping block.No clue why these women keep doing this. You gain nothing except scaring away "parasocials" who happen to pay your bills.
Another day where SEAmonkeys continue to torture themselves with imaginary problems and being loud about it.>>115898282Because they think the woman on the internet pretending to be an anime girl is there to be their girlfriend. It's a mental illness and just a step below being a tranny, but if you're into vtubing they're just as loud.
>>115898556>Unicorns secretly crave the sweet ecstasy of being cucked; if the chuuba doesn't deliver, they subconsciously change to others who will.Asmongold spoke of this
>>115897427idk what that dude is talking about, I used to watch a lot of esports and can think of only 4 cases off the top of my head over many many years (that one early british (?) league caster, belgian lol pro krepo, swiss cs pro maniac and the dota caster tobiwan)im sure theres more but considering the volume of people its not really all that many
>>115898573Unicorns have a vastly overinflated sense of their own importance, most whales wouldn't even drop their oshi if they got married. Pandering to incels isn't profitable, plus it makes you miserable and your fan community rancid.
>>115898633Kronii's entire income collapsed after 2022. Are we really fucking recycling the "maybe men will pay me to emotionally cuck them" shit again? This is not a difficult hobby to understand- be a CGDCT anime girl. That's it. If you want to be something else you can be one of those 1view literalwhores who wonder why their channel doesn't grow and then has their boyfriend on stream with them, or become a twitchtuber and no one will care if you're a whore.Stop coming into my yard and demanding I let you shit there, freak.
>>115898694>shitting analogy out of nowhereSAAAAR I AM UNICORN BRAHMIN I VERY HIGH CASTE SAAAAAARR
>>115898694thiseveryone knows unicorns bring the big bucks, that's why corpos specifically pandering to them like Project Kawaii are the biggest and strongest and richest
>>115893431There are 1000 reasons to not homocollab, but anons here are not ready for that conversation
>>115896988>having an imagination is a highly developed and creative mindI'll help you out, don't worry. You got cucked if your wife bangs some other dude. You also got cucked if you invested your life savings in crypto and got rugpulled. You also got cucked if you're up for promotion but the role is given to someone else last minute. The meaning of words expands and changes over time you literalist retard.
Don't mind me, just cucking the retard above me out of a (you)
>>115898912based bvllhave a (You)
>>115896821Imagine if the entertainment is talking about their relationship and how the spend your money on doing shit together and then ''hint'' at you how they fucked.... that's the whole shit anon, if you think this ''entertainers only'' thing sustains itself with male vtubers, then I have a bridge to sell you to>but the complexity!!!! the CHAOS!!!! the sibling energy!!!It would be very good if we didn't know for a fact that any HomoEN joined Holostars for pussy, don't get me wrong, I couldn't even give a damn about these girls having a side piece and keeping it professional in their own respective Holo channels, but once they start you end up with a nyanners who gushed over her boyfriend for 1 hour straight on stream...
>>115895217I was thinking about that the other dayI wonder if there’s a board out there where women are seething that the homo is collabing with hololive and are losing their minds over how excited he is about it
>>115893669>10+ year old hobby>Faggots still think these women don't interact with menlolLMAO even
i thought homos were culled anyway, what are they still doing there?
>>115898633>>115898694>>115898735Unicorns overlap but are not completely whales/dolphins. What caused Kronii to lose income wasn't really the homocollab which pissed off the unicorns, it was the "lmao get reckt nerds" she said to her fans after having pretended to care about their opinion.
>>115899242To leech off Nerissa this week apparently. And if you're stooping that low to leech, it's not a good sign
>>115899072you need not go far>>115800806
>>115897238And what is the appeal of a vtuber compared to a normal streamer? You gonna act retarded and not know?
>>115899484>what is the appeal of a vtuber compared to a normal streamer?what's the appeal of an anime/cartoon compared to a live action?
>>115893721I thought incels hate women? Wouldn't that fit better for you faggots since you always throw the most vile shit at them whenever they don't homocollab?
>imagine yourself as a cuck>you get cucked>dont imagine yourself as a cuck>the cucks get mad at youWhy is vtubing like this for unicorns?
>>115898858>You got cucked if your wife bangs some other dudeI don't have a wife. And a vtuber you watch is not your wife. She is also not having sex with another guy on youtube stream if they play valorant. They most likely aren't in the same room either. You have this supposed boundless imagination and you use it to imagine being cucked for some reason.
What does our Lord and Savior, RealN_C, thinking about this latest development
>I'm an unicorn>that means I use my superior intellect to self insert as a cuck using vtubers as my props>I consider myself very rich, intelligent and influential for doing this
>>115893431>Imagine the whole vtuber sphere as a hostess club.Anon the flaw in that argument is that most vtubers are not trying to act like a hostess and even most talents in Hololive don't like that side of the business. There are lewd Twitch vtubers who are doing that but it's rare in Hololive and mostly limited to some of the JP talents that lean heavily into GFE. Rushia remains the gold example of a hostess style vtuber and it's amusing that unicorns want more vtubers like that.
>>115899751Hey you come from leddit and larp as an actual channer :D
>>115893431All of this can avoided if you understand you are there as a viewer and she's not your hooker that you paid for the gf experience.
>>115898912Okay? That just proves my point tho
>"I want a whore">"N-Not like that!"What are you even watching vtubers then? You are not paying a hostess because there's no stipulated transaction, all donations are just means of support unless directly specified. You are just paying for her condoms and deluding yourself as a cuck.Just kill yourself at this point, it'd solve all your problems.
>>115896366None of the girls know their viewers first names.
>>115901362If the top vtubers were guys they would get stars numbers.
>>115899865Holofags want to be cucked
>>115893431Crazy
>>115893431I’ve always thought of it more like self-inserting as a harem protagonist, but same difference. Agreed with everything. Not sure why it’s so hard for some to grasp.
>>115893431To me it's the signal it sends, they all know it makes viewers feel bad, they still go ahead and do it.It's like if you have a friend that hates the color red, and you go to their house with a red shirt, you may not think red is a big deal to you but doing that means you are not considerate about your friend or worse, is doing to intentionally annoy your friend.
>>115893431This is homocollabing.What Nerissa did was record lines in a booth alone and the sound guy mixed all in
>>115901969If you think there is no stipulated transaction you're a retard, people don't throw away money for no reason, the support is deeply rooted in the personal relationship with the vtuber, if it was just entertainment, you would pay as least as possible, you would be happy to go to a movie or concert for 10$, for vtubers people willing pay as much or as often as they can because their intention is not just the entertainment they get from it, it's supporting them on a personal level, to make them live better or improve their activities.
>>115893431>Pippa vs nyana megayab deflection thread
>>115905137They might like their fans but hate the controlling shit. No one outside the Holo fanbase think its a mystery why many of the girls stream as little as possible.
>>115901362Then what good is she?There's no female streamer who is better than a man at anything they do. They are not better at games. They are not funnier. They are not more intelligent. They are not better at any niche hobby (drawing, music, etc). If I wanted to watch someone for their skill, charisma andor true showmanship, I'd watch a man, there's no competition. I think a very harsh reality that a lot of these girls, and subsequent tourists don't like to admit is that if they were men, nobody would care about them. The only reason people watch them is because they are women who are giving what feels like personal attention to a lonely man. Once they begin taking away that personal attention, why would I as a lonely man continue watching them? I'd just move on to another girl who gives me that attention or I go watch a dude do the thing you were good at except he's an order of magnitude better than you are. It's harsh and sad reality, but it is reality. You're not going to convince hundreds of thousands, potentially millions of lonely men that they're not allowed to have the thing they want and they just need to suck it up. That's not how reality works. Some will complain loudly, get trodden on, and then leave, others will just leave quietly, and they simply aren't an insignificant audience pool. They may be a minority of the actual watching audience, but they make up the majority of actual revenue. These guys who are deeply attached to these girls are the ones dropping akasupas, they are buying the merch, they are the ones travelling to cons and concerts just for them. No fucking normie who just puts on Hololive in the background as a form of neo-television (which is most of Hololive's fanbase) is going to spend a fucking dollar.
Unikeks just can't stop taking Ls and get cucked
>>115905479>delusional>projecting KYS myron
>>115893431Hostess clubs are an establishment that provide a concrete service and if things go bad there is accountability and refunds/reimbursement can be made. Like McDonalds, if you order a burger, a burger will be given and if it's wrong you will be reimbursed to right the wrong.With vtubers, there is none. You are not guaranteed any content, any specific content, and what is delivered can be changed on their whim and you're complaints don't mean anything. In a hostess club, everything is laid out in the open and you are obligated certain things.Nothing vtubers do is obligated, you are simply putting your own expectations above reality. You simply rely on an ever changing and fluid "culture" to dictate what the vtuber does, when in reality something that nebulous will never bring you guaranteed services. Vtubers don't have to do anything, meaning you aren't owed anything.
>>115905479>normie who just puts on Hololive in the background as a form of neo-television (which is most of Hololive's fanbase) is going to spend a fucking dollar.They'd be individually tiny compared to a gachikoi's spending but the amount is hardly zero.
>>115905576>With vtubers, there is none. You are not guaranteed any content, any specific content, and what is delivered can be changed on their whim and you're complaints don't mean anything.On the other hand you get the base service for free and the quality of the base service is guaranteed regardless of how many tips you give. Even the extras like membership is stuff you're never pressured to buy into. Also I doubt McDonalds would actually reimburse you everytime you complained.
>>115905565I'm not saying you're wrong dude, it is delusion and it is projection, but it doesn't change anything about the consequences that you can clearly see from a mile away. Someone tells you, "Hey man, you're walking into a bad part of time with a lot of poor blacks, I'd take off the fancy watch and you should probably take a taxi rather than walk". You then respond with, "That's ridiculous, stealing is illegal and it's delusional racism to imply that simply because someone is poor and black that they'll rob me." Is it your fault that you end up getting your watch stolen? Not in a strictly legal or moral sense, but of prudence. You knew what was going to happen but instead of accepting reality, you carried on knowing the consequences of a totally avoidable risk because of your own hubris.It's hard to feel any sympathy for you or these girls when the inevitable happens.
>>115893721I don’t want to date and expend all the energy that comes with it. I just want to live in the delusion that some online anime girl is my wife, is that too much to ask?
>>115893431NGL, that applies more to NijiEN's open VC shtick earlier on, where the faggots could literally hijack any stream at any moment, compared to the homocollabs.
>>115905740>you're walking into a bad part of time with a lot of poor blacksUnderstandable, I wouldnt want to walk around in the pre-war South either
>>115893721Me and my gf but she's just rude instead of hostile
>>115905670I'd wager (based on nothing except vibes and general understand of how my own channel works), 99% of viewers contribute exactly $0 outside of the ad revenue (which is pittance) and them contributing to the metrics which sponsors use to calculate payouts. Only about 1-2% of viewers actually voluntarily donate any amount and then it breaks down into 80/20, 20% of that 1% makes up 80% of voluntary donations which are your gachis/whales/unicorns. But I think what a lot of people don't consider is that a lot of big spenders, especially moids (female viewers much prefer buying merch or donating off stream to not upset the community feng shui) , like flaunting that in public displays. The bigger the normie audience, the more they (the gachi) are likely to spend and give because of lizard-brain peacocking. It feels good to show off your wealth in front of a huge people who you presume are also competing for this one girl's attention. So there is a balance to be struck; you need your gachis to pay your bills but you need an audience to first grow you to attract more gachis and for the gachis to flex on.
>>115905853I'm not American, but from what I understand I wouldn't walk anywhere that was outside of like Maine, New Hampshire, West Virginia and Wyoming
>>115905895I miss my ex.She literally hated everyone but me and refused to speak to anybody either without me present or more often she would ask me to speak for her. I loved it. Anyway, F-117 to make me feel better, I fucking hate Serbia.
>>115893431>Homocollabing is bad because i throw Money out the Window to someone who will never know, meet, love me irl and gives me delusions so i will cry and piss myself to sleep every night. fify
>>115893431A reminder
>>115906142>I support the things I like and don't support the things I don't like>>LMAO CRYING AND PISSING AND SHITTINGDo you just spin a wheel each day to figure out what to spend your money on or what?
>>115905394>controlling shitIt's one request, viewers accept everything they do except one thing and it's abusive and controlling if they ask for a single thing to be done.
>>115906142that changes nothing it's still true even with your wording.
>>115906499when its something weird? yesand implies something deeply negative? yes>no, you can't see your family anymore>what, it's just ONE THING>ONE THING>you can't do just ONE THING FOR ME
>>115905479thiswomen are just holeswhy don't they like me though
>>115907520Your example doesn't align with what jailbirds want at all though, you're just making shit up to enrage yourself. Post tits next time you're going to be this retarded, femanon.
>>115907622Women are good at lots of things, a personality-based entertainer is not one of them.
>>115904506We have so much in common
>>115899345>what caused her to get rekt was not pissing off her fans, but pissing off her fans
>>115899061>>but the complexity!!!! the CHAOS!!!! the sibling energy!!!This energy between unrelated men and women is basically just flirting
>>115899907You are literally a fat woman, your opinion is invalid and worthless to what men actually think.
>>115899907You completely misunderstand what it is male fans want. Or you are just disingenuous. Nobody thinks these girls are their actual girlfriend you regard. They just want to watch female only content. If some Korean K-Pop band replaced half its male members with girls, Seoul would be on fire. And you know that. People want to watch what they want to watch. And they pay good money to support what they like. And in this case that’s not homocollabs.
>>115907827*RetardYou’re a retard. But so am I for not checking my text before hitting post.
>2016-2021>fanbase of nerdy autistic men>2022-2026>"heh fuck off parasocial nerds, this is for "normal" people like trannies and obese femcels who are parasocial for ugly men in vtuber models"It's literally the "fanbases ruined by outsiders" image, kek.
>>115907694>It's one request>viewers accept everything they do except one thing>except one thing and it's abusive and controlling if they ask for a single thing to be done>it's abusive and controlling if they ask for a single thing to be donea single thinganon cannot go one post without abandoning their own argumentis anon retarded or dishonest
>>115907996NTA but in what way is>please continue to do the thing you were doing before that you did upon your own free will and I will continue to support you of my own free willcontrolling or abusive?The only way you can even attempt to argue this would be to imply that these women are just inherently entitled to other people's money and attention.
>>115907696I think almost all women streamers and a lot of their viewers would disagree
>>115907967nice try at rewriting historybut the og vtubers were never some virtual girlfriends
>>115908077Of course the streamers would disagree because it's a very uncomfortable truth that their audience doesn't actually find them likeable or interesting as a person, but only from the fact that they have boobs and a vagina. The viewers would also disagree because they would then need to admit that they are in fact the same as the parasocial weirdo incels that they make fun of. Everybody is just doing a version of the emperor's new clothes because nobody wants the consequences of admitting the truth.
>>115906037>"invisible plane" gets KWABBED by korean war era soviet AD>whole platform is discontinued after the factTop kek
>>115908105Vtubers are an extension of otaku/waifu/hostess/maid-cafe culture. It's imbued in the inherent foundations of the entire medium.
>>115906142>>Homocollabing is bad because i throw Money out the Window to someone who will never know, meet, love me irl and gives me delusions so i will cry and piss myself to sleep every night.Elon musk said this too
>>115908180Exactly. It’s the whole reason cute anime girls like Kizuna Ai were getting millions of views in the first place. It was still mostly men who liked the cute anime girl.
>>115893431>You pay money to the hostess girlI don't do this though
>>115908239Then your opinion is worthless.
>>115908051They get to have an unbelievably comfortable job where they make hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars for playing video games a few times a week. And the only thing asked of them is to be nice to the fans and not have men on stream. And many of them can’t even do that. They have no appreciation for the amazing position they’re in nor for the fans who make it possible.
>>115908051you're free to stop supporting a vtuber for any reason, it's light entertainmentviewers aren't entitled to anything, and neither are the vtubers
>>115908143>I believe this>therefore everyone else also believes this OR they're lying to themselvesextremely low IQ or autism, maybe bothnot worth continuing
>>115908288Hence why half of HoloEN is now barely above 3 view shitter status when just a few years ago a Holo EN collab could pull 50-100k viewers. People didn’t owe them anything after they became lazy homocollabers.
>>115908254>he gives his money to random women for a service they provide for free
>>115899907>How would you feel if you had a wife that cheated on you>But I don't have a wifeNice self own retard. Are you offended that I was talking about women's lack of accountability or are you offended that I called you out as a low IQ NPC?
>>115908270I think it's down to a pure inferiority complex and embarrassment. They want to believe that they are popular from their talents and personality, but a lot of external discourse tells them that they're only popular because of their gender. When in reality it's both, the gender exclusion thing is a prerequisite, the talent and personality thing is how you get popular within that prerequisite. These girls don't like the idea that they are one-step above regular whores, look at Bae's recent melty when she outright refused that her success had anything to do with the fact people treated her like a surrogate girlfriend and it was all due to her hard work and talent.To disprove the haters and get over their own embarrassment and inferiority, these girls want to test it and prove to themselves and others that they aren't simply virtual girlfriends. Inevitably, they self-own and either crash the fuck out permanently cratering their career (see most of HoloID) or they crash the fuck out and then embrace their position after some self-reflection (see Kronii especially).
>>115908288Okay, so what's your argument then other than, "I don't think people should be allowed to express their opinions because I hate free speech"?
>>115908445Because it is mainly for their gender. People aren’t watching them because they’re the best pro gamer or the best musical artist in the world. It’s because they’re cute girls. I just think a lot of them, like Nerissa, can’t handle that fact.
>>115907996I told you to post tits next time you were going to be retarded. PAY YOUR FUCKING TAXES
>>115893431>look at list of girls here>they're already known homo collabers outside of one who interacted with them online a ton before this I think if you were giving money to any of them that's really on you.
>>115908310>thinks that a generalised statement is the same as a definitive categorical statementYou're not the person who should be throwing around low IQ accusations
>>115899061>Imagine if the entertainment is talking about their relationship and how the spend your money on doing shit together and then ''hint'' at you how they fucked.... that's the whole shit anon,>imagine you're being cucked by someone who isn't in a relationship with youvery intelligent. You will surely pass on your genes.
I like when the girl I like flirts with a boy in front of me, this is very fulfilling content, you are the cuck not me
>>115908475I somewhat agree, being a cute girl is a prerequisite, but there's shit tons of cute girls on the internet so you need to compete with the other cute girls with talent and hard work. You don't have to be a world-class talent, you just have to be good in comparison.When they stop being cute girls, then they just get thrown into the general pool of evaluation. Since you're now the same as everyone else, why should anybody watch you? Are you especially funny? Are you especially good at a game? Probably within the bubble of cute girls, you are, but compared to the wider world of content creators you are mediocre slop.
>>115908546B-But anon!! Not wanting to watch the oshi you’ve supported for the last 3 years flirt with Filipino sexpests who nonstop talk about their penises on stream makes you an evil incel chud!!!!
>>115908513>retreats from statement>doesn't actually address the pointsick sophismliterally not worth continuing
>>115908623>I interpreted your statement incorrectly by adding in my own assumptions that were not in the original argument, this is your fault actuallylollmao evenHow would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
>>115907827>They just want to watch female only content.Then just skip the male collab.Nobody's forcing you to watch that stream.
>>115908470you're free to shit and piss yourselfbut doing it in public is unsightly
>>11590866Oh so your argument literally is:>I don't think people should be allowed to express their opinions because I hate free speech
>>115908661Nope.I’m not skipping half the streams a week from someone who starts doing mixed gender collabs all the time. And I’m not watching someone who can’t do mixed gender collabs without it devolving into blatant flirting for 2 hours straight. I just move on to someone else.
>>115893431tl;drOP is a faggot who's getting milked by a whore for every penny he has
>>115908691Apparently not, considering you do nothing but bitch about homocollabs all day instead of actually watching anything.
>>115908661NTA but that's not how this works.Okay just skip the collab itself.Does this mean that they will never discuss the male ever again except when explicitly advertised? Probably not.Does this mean that the community will memory-hole and never bring up the male ever again? Probably not.Does this mean that there will be no clips, no art, no future collabs which I wouldn't want to support? Probably not.The genie it out of the bottle, you can't put it back in. I as a viewer now have no guarantee that you're going to be using my money and my support that I give to you to create the content I like rather than spending it on content I don't like.
>>115908786Most people are able to exist in the same world as something else without chimping out at the slightest inconvenience or mention of something that inconveniences them.If you fly off the handle at something as small as someone's name being mentioned, you probably shouldn't be participating in society at all and should be institutionalized immediately before you hurt yourself or others.
>>115908778Hard to watch streams when nobody in EN streams. I’ll be watching Kyoko soon. I watch streams everyday. I’m allowed to complain about the growing homocollaber problem in my hobby.
>>115908778>instead of actually watching anything.NTA but 1. a fan's oshi doing a hard 180 with no forewarning is something worth bitching about & 2. beggars have no right to say something like this.
>>115908786Quite the opposite.You will have to deal with nonstop shippers in chat, people constantly talking about when the next collab will be, the fanbase being infested with fujos and trannies and tourists, have to see the sexpests pop up in chat in unrelated streams derailing the whole stream. It fucks up the entire baseline of the content.
>>115908852>a fan's oshi doing a hard 180 with no forewarningexcept it's never without warning, and never a hard 180. Take Shiori for example, who was mentioning Holostars and how she interacted with them offstream since debut. Anyone who didn't expect her to eventually collab with them clearly didn't watch streams. And since the fabled homocollab, nothing about her content has changed, other than maybe a slightly more bearable community.
>>115908105The original Vtuber didn't even stream if you want to go and play stupid games like thatBut one of the prime reasons Hololive initially grew was that Nijisanji had burned off fans who were put off by the male collabs and Sankisei had just debuted with 5 members who kept their distance from male streamers (at that time, anyways)
>>115908961Nerissa just got done a few months ago saying she would never collab with the homos, and that even when thinking of doing a music collab with them she decided she wouldn’t. She did a 180 after just a few months!Now I’m not a jailcuck because I could tell from her personality in the first month she’d end up a homo whore. But she did absolutely do a 180 on her content after 4 years of being homo-free and even promising not to homocollab.
>>115909013>Nerissa just got done a few months ago saying she would never collab with the homosGo check her words exactly, because in the exact same breath she told you that anybody who blindly hates people at her company aren't welcome.You were quite literally told to leave and then came back whining about how there was no warning.
>>115909046I just told you I don’t watch her. Just been following her Lazy Larper to full Fan Hating Homo Cock Sucker journey. It’s been pretty hard to miss on this board.
>>115908841>slightest inconvienceI think that removing 'cute girls' from entire genre of 'cute girls doing cute girls' is actually much larger than a slight inconvenience. I would in fact argue that it completely redefines the content entirely since you just removed 1 of 2 foundational pillars of the content.If you watched a channel about learning Japanese, and they suddenly pivoted to learning Swahili, is this just a slight inconvenience? It's still the same person doing nearly the same thing, so you shouldn't stop your support, right?
>>115908961>Shiori>Shiori>ShioriWhat are you talking about?? What does any of your post have to do with>a fan's oshi [Nerissa] doing a hard 180 with no forewarningYou're doing a grave disservice to the perception of women. Please think for at least 3 minutes before posting again.
>>115909115>one single stream out of hundreds each year is the end of the worldSounds like you're in the wrong hobby, friendo. Have you considered just buying hookers? That seems more your speed.
>>115909172Have you considered just following the 1 single request your fans have for you in exchange for the multimillion dollar job you have where all you do is still on your ass and play video games three times a week? Or is that too much?
>>115909172>one single streamI'll just repeat myself since I do understand lobotomites like yourself do just immediately forget what they previously read.Okay just skip the collab itself.Does this mean that they will never discuss the male ever again except when explicitly advertised? Probably not.Does this mean that the community will memory-hole and never bring up the male ever again? Probably not.Does this mean that there will be no clips, no art, no future collabs which I wouldn't want to support? Probably not.The genie it out of the bottle, you can't put it back in. I as a viewer now have no guarantee that you're going to be using my money and my support that I give to you to create the content I like rather than spending it on content I don't like.
>>115909223>>115908841
>>115909247I accept your concession.
>>115908841Not that anon but if you're not under obligation to support stuff you dislikeIf you like an artist but you realise that a lot of their new music is terrible, most people would in that case start to avoid their new music, even if they like the old stuff. It's the same here: you can't bully or shame people into continuing to support a streamer regardless of whatever rhetoric you pull out of your ass, you're not that charismatic
>>115909247Lady, you got fucking bodied
>>115909115Is it still CGDCT if a single male appears
>>115909561Highly context dependent, but in this context of a male peer, no.
If they weren't cute girls you wouldn't watch them.
@115894458
>>115909561Only in rare instances like the Minecraft courage test collab they did that had the cat as a host. Because it was professional and minimal.
>>115910688>invited by a random male to check out his minecraft world on only his stream to hide from their fans>professionalsure
>>115910741It was 99% cute girls doing cute stuff together. Idk what you want me to say. He was a glorified employee at an amusement park.
>>115899907>She is also not having sex with another guy on youtube stream if they play valorant.This sounds logical until you remember Apex is literally used as a dating app. And lore drops have happened more than once over male vtubers who "just happened" to hang around female talent.
>>115911056>This sounds logical until you remember Apex is literally used as a dating appIt's even funnier. Apex was the more popular one but now it's Valorant in particular, particularly with younger girls. The Japanese even coined a phrase to describe girls playing Valorant behind their fan's backs, with the implication being that it's to hook up with guys: 裏ヴァロ
>>115893431So if it's acceptable to ignore the whole crowd of other viewers, why can't one use a fraction of that imaginative power to memoryhole the collab and pretend there was no stream? Like, vtubing is inherently about only receiving the best, kayfabe only enables the positive traits of a person behind the avatar. Wouldn't it be in line to filter what you watch and only "canonize" the content you enjoy? It sure gets ugly when collabs become systematic, but dropping girls over stuff like a fucking song feels so forced, they still have hours on hours of content for (you).
>>115911289Read>>115909223
>>115905249>You WILL throw away money for virtual pussy and you WILL like itUhm no. This is why you are still living in your mom's basement, Anon. If you only care for GFE then you don't actually care for their growth or supporting them, only what they would offer you in return for your money.At least pay a hooker or something, that's the only way you'll actually get laid.
>>115911435>If you only care for GFE then you don't actually care for their growth or supporting themNot a logical statement. No reason a man can't love the anime girl and want to see them succeed.
>>115909115>I think that removing 'cute girls' from entire genre of 'cute girls doing cute girls' is actually much larger than a slight inconvenience. I would in fact argue that it completely redefines the content entirelyI think that for most Hololive fans it would depend on frequency. A male collab once every few months would not be a deal breaker (even for many unicorns) but having male collabs every single week is when most of the CGDCT fans would walk away. If Hololive was to transform into Nijisanji than it would be no different than what viewers get from the average EN vtuber.
>>115911697Okay, but why are you acting as she loves you in return or that you are entitled to something? She appreciates your support, but at the end of the day, you are only letters and numbers behind a screen. These women are the ones that decide what they want their streaming career to be like, if it conflicts with your interests, you simply turn off your computer and stop interacting. If this seems difficult to understand, there is a faster solution, you can always rely on the rope.
>>115911958>These women are the ones that decide what they want their streaming career to be like, if it conflicts with your interests, you simply turn off your computer and stop interactingand stop paying their bills in exchange for services rendered
>>115911958Not that anon, but you're the one trying to escalate this and make it something dramatic, to the point of hoping he kills himself. Aren't you embarrassed typing that out?>or that you are entitled to something? These girls wouldn't have careers if the fans weren't getting something out of their support. This isn't a charity, surely you understand that? Or are you some newfag?
>>115912000>and stop paying their bills in exchange for services renderedYou are not required to, streaming is a volatile career that they know doesn't guarantee a paycheck. If they are good at their craft they'll succeed like male (non-vtubing) streamers already do.>>115912010>Aren't you embarrassed typing that out?You should be +18 to post on this site.
>>115911435Well, isn't that the point of paid entertainment? I only care about the GFE, which I will gladly pay for. Getting laid or having a girlfriend is too much of a hassle, so I will default to that convenient vtuber. Whether my money makes her feel supported or boosts her growth is not my business, I am only entitled to our immediate transaction.
>>115912385Telling someone to kill themselves over their opinions on streamers is beyond embarrasing
>>115912405Do with your money what you want, I don't care about your spending habits.But you should not act entitled that an entertaininer didn't cater to your interests.This is like going to a concert and having a melty that your favorite band didn't play your favorite song, you can be frustrated, of course, but acting as if it is something bigger is retarded.
>>115911958Why do you think people are arguing that they are entitled to a streamer behaving in a certain way? That's never been the topic of argument, people are just explaining to you what the consequence of these girls' action is and your interpreting that as if they are ordering the girls to act in a certain way.
Jailbirds are fucking cuckyou can't change my mind
>>115893431this is also done out of spite. They can interact with the homos off camera whenever they want. They can play games with them, hell i bet they can meet up offline even. But they don't. They know you hate this and they do it because you hate this. It is not a "oh we're all just close friends and we want to collab." They know it makes people angry and who wants to watch what is essentially a child passive aggressively having a fit?
>>115912692No it's like going to a concert where your favorite band suddenly rugpulls you by swapping out songs from the set list that YOU PAID to see performed. It's a betrayal of trust and now you don't want to support that band anymore because you don't know if they're just going to rugpull you again.
>>115893721You guys harassed Kiara, Kanata and Mio for saying they wouldn't collab with homos, i don't really want to hear about who's being a crybaby. Mio is one of the kindest holos in the company and you faggots harassed her for saying that. Don't give me this bullshit.
>>115905576>Vtubers don't have to do anything, meaning you aren't owed anything.the vtubers arent owed that people watch them, donate, or buy merch either
>>115912830They also harassed Calli, Kronii, and Ame for "not doing enough" for the homos. Beggars can get fucked.
>>115893431What is the right way of being a vtuber fan in the first place?
>>115912959Libertarianism. You support the people who do things you like, you don't support people who don't do the things you like.
>>115912959Apparently it’s to dump your wallets out to a streamer no matter how badly they treat you or how little they stream. According to half this board and all of the tranny tourists on Twitter.
>>115912937i didn't even think about that. And it really tells you everything you need to know about them. They aren't actually here to enjoy the hobby or uplift the homos or enable talent freedom (as seen when talent freedom is no homo collabs); it's entirely to shit on the hobby. It reminds me of that post that said hollywood is now just a girl forcing her dolls onto her brother while he's playing action figures. It is literally just that. They're ruining it on purpose and pretending they aren't.
>>115912959Vtuber fans and vtubers will give you different answers, but vtubers will say that the right way is to finance them directly or indirectly
>>115912830The things I saw beggars say about FuwaMoco after El Silencio, and even months and years later, were some of the most disgusting things I’ve seen said about a holo member. And they didn’t do it on obscure basket weaving boards. They did it openly on the main subreddits and on Twitter. And in the comments of their fucking VODs.
>>115912744>what the consequence of these girls' action isYou are acting as if this was some sort of crime that requires divine punishment, of course people will argue with you that you are acting entitled when you don't notice how actively controlling you are, this is the main argument that's been driven against yours.Also, they are streamers, they are not contracted by you not binded to you in any sort of way, they either work for companies that could graduate them or could quit at any time and take the money with them, when you donate to them you accept those hidden details that could happen any time and that your money doesn't guarantee results nor your satisfaction with the end product.
>>115912692>This is like going to a concert and having a melty that your favorite band didn't play your favorite song, you can be frustrated, of course, but acting as if it is something bigger is retarded.If a band was advertising their tour that they'd play their best album and then you go see them, they don't play a single song from that album, people would be furious. I think you're just chaffing at the idea that these girls are held to any standards
>>115913063Those types of people don't care about anything, the only single thing they care about is The Revolution™. If something isn't contributing to The Revolution™ it must either be destroyed or assimilated into something that does contribute to The Revolution™. Hence why you see these retards oppose nuclear power as a valid option to fossil fuels, because it solves the problem but a society that actual solves problems rather than experience a decrease in quality of life standards is less likely to progress towards The Revolution™. They don't like vtubing because it enforces a lot of gender norms thus gender inequality which in post-modernist philosophy hinders progress towards The Revolution™.They would rape your kids, shoot your dog, and make you watch if it meant progressing towards The Revolution™ because only in The Revolution™ would they be granted absolute power since they are too stupid and immoral to achieve it in this world.
>>115912830>You guys harassedI don't even watch those people so that hardly seems possible.
If they homocollab I stop watching and support someone else. That simple.
>>115901253>:DI guess you know what you're talking about
>>115913111>You are acting as if this was some sort of crime that requires divine punishment,No that's something you literally just made up in your head.>of course people will argue with you that you are acting entitled when you don't notice how actively controlling you are, this is the main argument that's been driven against yours.It's not controlling to say I will retract my voluntary support from someone performing a voluntary action I dislike.> when you donate to them you accept those hidden details that could happen any time and that your money doesn't guarantee results nor your satisfaction with the end product.Really? Show me where that's written down that I have to accept whatever they do when I donate and that they should not be criticized for receiving money under false premises and that I must continue to donate.
>>115913111The scope of what you are pushing is only limited to one-to-one interactions between a fan and a vtuber. The social contracts get more complicated and irrational if it's a one-to-many dynamic. The fandom may not be entitled, but they feel that they are entitled. The vtuber may respond in any way they want regardless of retribution, but if they want money, then it should be an economic decision.
>>115913216"I'm stupid and didn't see it" isn't an argument.
>>115913235That's how it should be. But there's always some retard who just shits and pisses themselves all over the place when that happens
>>115913456>I don't like freedom of speech
>>115911958>why are you acting as she loves you in return or that you are entitled to somethingBecause if they don't they aren't worth watching, if I follow your advice I would just drop them all and watch anime or some shit, NOT keep watching/paying while expecting nothing.
>>115913475Pointing out how sperging all over is retarded doesn't stop you from doing it isn't it?
>>115913441Projection is an unhealthy habit, anon.
>>115913631What you said doesn't refute what I said.
>>115913269>No that's something you literally just made up in your head.Yeah, just keep acting like you are getting cucked and that your delusions are their fault.>it's not controlling to say I will retract my voluntary support from someone performing a voluntary action I dislike.But it is, Anon, go tell your mom you will stop visiting her because you don't like how she pays too much attention to your dad and tell me how well that goes for you. This is just a minor inconvenience that as mentioned thousands of times, could be evaded by simply turning off your computer and cleaning the tears off your keyboard.>Really? Show me where that's written downThis is why they are called donations, Anon, I know it's hard to interpret big words, but you can ask chatgpt to explain to you what "supporting" and "donating" mean so you can finally act like a big boy.>>115913392Yes, of course interactions change, especially the more your grow, but the issue at hand is that the content creator decides what they want to provide or to who are they selling to, while communities can be irrational by themselves individuals are so too, and they will take decisions that maybe will hit them monetarily, but make them feel more fulfilled. It doesn't matter how big the backlash might be.
>>115912830Matsuri too after her "unicorn" era
Pretending not to understand the dynamic while being a smug cunt. These types never change.
>>115893431If you ever seen a hostess club most of the girls pay attention multiple men individually blatantly in front of you. That industry is as close as being cucked as it gets so weird you use that as an example for not being a cuck lol.
The word "cuck" has lost all meaning over stupid shit like this. The homos should graduate but it's not the end of the fucking world if they're around. Quit whining here and actually do something about it like you all say you'll do and then do nothing but whine about twitterfags cancelling you
>>115913858>Yeah, just keep acting like you are getting cucked and that your delusions are their fault.It's very ironic to call someone else delusional whilst insisting that the thing you literally made up in your head is true.>But it is, Anon, go tell your mom you will stop visiting her because you don't like how she pays too much attention to your dad and tell me how well that goes for you.This is a nonsensical argument. How someone reacts to your decision has nothing to do with whether or not your decision is controlling. In addition, when was it established that my relationship with my own mother is predicated on how much attention she gives my father? That was never in the equation so its a totally different premise between a vtuber and viewer because there is an established transactional nature to our relationship. Suddenly and unilaterally changing the terms of a relationship and expecting the other side to simply comply is controlling, which is what the vtuber in this situation is doing and what you're defending. "Oh this vtuber for the longest time behaved in this way which is mutual exclusive with THAT way, and now they turned around and now behave THAT way, yeah you should still give them your money." That's your argument.>This is just a minor inconvenience that as mentioned thousands of times, could be evaded by simply turning off your computer and cleaning the tears off your keyboard.I'm guessing you have a mathematical formula which you can objectively prove what is or isn't a minor inconvenience to someone's subjective feelings around entertainment, so I'd like to see your work. Or are you just saying, "It would be a minor inconvenience for me, therefore everybody feels the same way because I have autism and lack theory of mind"?>This is why they are called donationsYes and donations are voluntary, so I can stop donating for whatever reason I want and I can crticize my donations being used in ways that were clearly not expressed at the time of donation. If I donate to a charity that runs a cat shelter, then suddenly they turn around and said "Oh actually, we're now doing trans kids", I have a right to be upset that my donations was elicited under a false premise and I have a right to criticize that charity for that untrustworthy behavior. What about this is difficult for you to grasp?
>>115913008That is very true, all these girls are numberfags to varying degrees, none of them have the spine to "i will do it even if i get shit for it" not that they should, committing career suicide just because you felt like it isn't good for the company. But it does allow the viewer to "control" what gets made, nothing hurts these girls more than seeing their regulars stop showing up/get interested in others, by simply being active in her community and contributing/donating, (you) get to inflict doubt in her mind whenever you believe she has crossed a line, stop typing in her chat, stop contributing, stop replying to her tweets, remove her oshi mark and oshihen to another girl. This is the only way to wrangle your oshi, these girls are very far from being stone-cold business woman, the corpos purposely encroach on their lives so they have to care due to them having very little outside with schedules etc. This isn't guaranteed, some(nerissa) may decide to keep eroding their fanbase until all they have is casual fans in their streams and thus retreat to twitter to interact with people that don't watch them but pretend to as you are a good prop for their actual oshi and it avoids having to accept that due to your own actions your fans left
>>115914394It's yet another word for someone you don't like alongside incel or nazi yeah
>>115914485>It's very ironic to call someone else delusional whilst insisting that the thing you literally made up in your head is true.NTA but it is true. You're claiming somebody you've never met that has no idea you exist is somehow in a monogamous relationship with you, and that you feel emasculated or somehow betrayed when reminded that other men exist. These men don't even have to be in any kind of relationship with these women, but simply present in any form for you to feel as if your whole world is collapsing and as if the woman herself has in some way attacked you. That is called being delusional.
>>115914582>You're claiming somebody you've never met that has no idea you exist is somehow in a monogamous relationship with youWhere did I claim that? Go ahead.
>Getting jealous and possessive over a woman who isn't even yours. >Feeling insecure due to being a mere fan while guys with real talents get women >All you do is provide for her and get nothing back like a good little worker ant >And of course every event she shows up to she needs security because if you could you would be violent to her There is a reason you are where you are.
>>115914729I pay money to support cute girls doing cute things. I stop paying when they stop doing that.Why do you suddenly add in your own fanfiction about people who you don't know?
>>115914729>>115914758You both are insufferable and should rope
I don't feel like I'm getting cucked by women I've never met before, I just don't like gay anime boys on my screen.
>>115914817Why are male EN vtubers so gay anyway? JP has tons of male vtubers who are allowed to be cool bros without getting pigeonholed into yaoibaiting.
>>115914589NTA, but this whole thread was made with the idea of "muh cuck fantasy" and yet you still try to defend it and then acting surprised when someone calls you a cuck like you rightfully deserve
>>115915001It sells, men have less trouble maintaining the charade and women are unironic cucks that fantasize about their favorite gayboy getting dicked.
>>115914729TRVKE
>>115915066So I didn't make that claim, glad you agree.
Western really misunderstand Unicorn
>>115915279The West doesn't even have true unicorns, it's all just an extension of their retarded culture war.
>>115893431It's really cute when /vt/immies pretend as if they know anything about Japanese culture and then either chud out every time reality is shown to their faces or flat out admit they hate this hobby because "foids" and their unwavering dedication to /pol/
Q : What is important to unicorns?A : We don't prioritize women's virginity but we prioritize transparency, faithfulness and trustworthiness.Q : But unicorns don't support women who already have boyfriends?A : We value transparency. If you told us from the start that you already have a partner or are about to have a partner. We could be happy with you. Or if you're married or a single mother, if you told us honestly we could support you. Unicorn show this by supporting Azki and Otsuka Ray.
>>115915380How did it take nearly 250 replies for someone to finally get it?You cucks are all ChibiReviews tier lolcows. Unifags are mocked everywhere on the Internet except this hugbox.
>>115905576lmao you really upset 2 dutch retards with this one
>>115908180Nigger please stop trying to fit in. Your chudlet friends hate Japanese culture so you should too.
>>115915461If only mockery could save your Homo, maybe the HomoJP wouldn't be downsized lmao
Q : If a woman secretly has a boyfriend, can she still be a VTuber?A : She can be and you can choose what kind of VTuber you want to be. If you secretly have a boyfriend/girlfriend but make a living by saying you're single and want that kind of partner, then you should question your own conscience> not your viewers.
The #1 unicorn friendly VTuber is Kirsche because true to her MIGA roots the only male that's allowed to be discussed on stream is Daddy Zion Don
>>115915461> Unifags are mocked everywhereRetard.... Unifags is one of the strongest in Vtuber community because they are richThey don't need to talk much to anyone.>All they did was stop sending money.
>>115915504But that's your problem Phasejeet
>>115915541Yes saar we will tell the Hololive fans that Phase Connect is super unicorn friendly saaaaaaaaaar +30000 izzat for those who join the cause!
>>115915564Not even that will save the HomosThese guys are going to die in 2027
Q : Are you saying that VTubers can have sex with other people?A: Of course. We don't want any Vtuber to entertain us while living a lonely life until she grow old and dies. If she starts a family and still stays with us that means when she has problems in life, there will be people for her>Not us who sitting on the other side of a computer screen.
>>115914394RapeApe's 4chan is full of pajeets and other thirdies who just freely throw around baseles insults and refuse to assimilate into the actual fan culture. Stop wasting your time. 95% of "unicorns" are larping Phasejeets pretending to be Hololive fans.
>>115915498Why do you stupid faggots constantly use the same tactics over and over by implying that basic concepts which were widely accepted until COVID tourists showed up were actually never accepted and try this nigger ass historical revisionist shit? Fuck off you retarded tourist. You do not belong here.
>>115896405Ernoul did the latter to Shiori and thats how we got BRICK
A : That means you're giving your money to someone else's wife!? You are cuck !Q : Wrong. That means the money we send will help her build a warm and comfortable family. We'll be the financial stepfathers or sugar daddy for her children. And whenever she does ASMR, it's like we're NTR her husband at the same time. (lol)This is one of the strangest yet most beautiful relationships ever had.
>>115915678>until COVID tourists showed upHoloEN came after COVID LOL4chan's EN/Global fan culture=/=The Main Hololive Fandom
>>115915714Do you think vtubing only started with HoloEN? Actual fucking tourist holy shit.
>>115915726No but almost all of this website does, including your gay faggot friends down on the /#/ shithole. In fact, more people think Hololive actually started in 2023 because they're Adventbabbies
>>115915714> Don't know about HoloEN gen0> HoloMethlmao
>>115915739Literal schizophrenic delusions that you have made up in your head, seek psychiatric help because nothing you said has any basis in any reality.
>>115915754you're just one person, that doesn't erase the sea of tourists that came after you and i that latch onto the unicorn moniker to chudlarp while proudly boasting that they do not watch streams
>>115915779Hey man, I didn't ask for this board to be created that resulted in a sea of chuds pretending to be Hololive fans as part of the broader rightoid culture war. /qa/ did. The end result is this hobby being hated everywhere else.
This recent cover was real smack to the monkeys like OP. It showed them (at least for the time being) that no, the bois are still not dead despite their best efforts.
>>115915827and your boi is a problem here
people are still trying to be unicorns in 2027-1?lol are you a cuckold or something??
>>115915701>The unicuck thinks HE'S doing the cucking!
>>115915879It's literally just the /vt/ version of izzat. Means absolutely nothing because the whole board is a psyop to make you oshihen and never enjoy anything.
>>115915802>rightoids only came in muh anime in COVID timesNazi Azu-nyan is literally dated to 2010 (K-On debuted in 2009)https://www.deviantart.com/prikksg1/art/Nazi-Azu-nyan-184252025Rightoid chuds have always been the majority in this culture, fuck off tranny.
>>115915897You are Grxit. Lose weight you fat fuck.
>>115915879>Because unicorns are the backbone of this industry. Without unicorns, you're all going to die because no one will spend as much money on VTubers as they do anymore.The fact that we can sit here and argue like this and that the VTuber industry has grown up.Part is because of Unicorns.
>>115915923I have literally no idea who or what the fuck that is nor do I really care because I don't revolve my life around culture war retardation, but seemingly you do and find it annoying when people just state historical fact.
>>115915886Unicorn can live without Vtuber but Vtuber can live without Unicorn?Think before answering
>>115915924>he actually thinks unicorns are the ones who spend money when in reality they're all dirt poor thirdies from Brazil, the Philippines, or Mexico who brag about never contributing to the hobby because muh foidsThanks I needed a good laugh. Your larp is just way too funny.
>>115915948What a weird statement given browns love cuck shit.
>>115915956They're also the best larpers
>>115915948Because I really went to Japan for sololive several times already and I'm Unicorn
>>115915972Worth it?
>>115915510>>115915541>>115915624>>115915701Q : So if a unicorn can handle this much, what's the problem?A : Someone, for reasons unknown has completely changed the meaning of the unicorn.>>115915977Worth every penny and sololive is the peakest Vtuber experience pack with full of history and memories of that community.
>>115915977This is a real Unicorns
Any question about the true meaning of Unicorn?
>>115916071Is it a spectrum or something binary
>>115916134It's mindset
>>115893431now imagine that there are people who pander to shits like you and why I stopped watching holoshit entirely
>>115893431Given who decided to collab on that it's safe to say they’re free to decide to be part of stuff like this, all these vtubers here just voluntarily took part in this.I don’t get it, I thought Kronii learned by now that homocollabing only is a net negative always given how she burned herself on it last time
>>115915948That’s just factually untrue. The majority of their income comes from a small percentage of their viewers, that goes for all vtubers
>Feel entitled to someone>Act like pussy bitches over the smallest shit>Nonstop seethe about menAre Unicorns just Women?
>>115916308No, it's true.It's just not the unicorns. You can see it pretty clearly in sales. The gachikoi are the ones buying, but the unicorns are the ones bitching and whining at perceived slights and never stick around anybody long enough to make a difference. (and then whining 24/7 about being betrayed by everyone)
>>115916238I really want to fuck Kiara
>>115916390...................Do you know gachikoi means in English right??
>>115916326>>115916326It would be extremely funny if it gets found out that the ones having constant melties and hate their own gender are trannies, it would actually explain a lot of what's happening in this board.
>>115916326this board really is a bizarro universe on 4ch
>>115913441If I didn't see it, I can't take part in harassmentYou're like those trans freaks that get upset at people that don't have pronouns in their bio
>>115893431>kronii participatingI thought she was over male collabs?
>>115916503I do, but apparently you don't if you think they're the same thing.
>>115916308>The majority of their income comes from a small percentage of their viewers, that goes for all vtubersNot all dedicated fans are unicorns but enough of them have that unicorn mindset that most of Hololive EN do not have regular collabs with male vtubers. They are 100% doing that for business reasons but as their revenue grows from gacha banners and sponsorships there is less and less reason to continue that act. The success of Hololive will unironically be one of the reasons that talents will drop unicorns since they will no longer feel like it's worth the trouble of keeping up that illusion.
>>115916912Talents need to be free and spread their legs!
>>115916698I really think we have language barrier here
>>115915443Based
>>115915510Holy based
>>115915541I kneel
>>115915624Unfathomable baused
>>115916912You do understand that because the girls are unicorn friendly, which is what most hololive viewers want, that it causes them to have large loyal audiences which is why they can make tons of money from sponsors, right?
>>115917819which is why the girls like suisei have the biggest reach right? we all know she's never collabbed with a male ever
>>115918305Suisei's appeal isn't in her streams, though. It's her musicI know she's destroyed her career but the fact that Rushia was still the most superchatted Vtuber for years after being fired is proof that if you want a very dedicated audience, pandering is absolutely the way you went about it
>>115918376The fact that she still has a very loyal fanbase even after finding out she was fucking that ultra popular male idol guy shows that it really doesn't matter
>>115915924Unicorns aren't the ones making itabags and shrines to their oshis. 'Corns are by definition filthy casuals who would abandon their oshi at the drop of a hat.
>>115916912This is what unicorns will never understand. By pandering to unicorns you cut off half your potential audience, and women are just as if not more capable of whaling on their oshis as men, especially when it comes to goods and merch. There's a reason Cover has been so desperate to capture female audiences with projects like DEV_IS, and it's not just for the heck of it.
