2 years ago today Senzawa added the infamous "#1 fan of @gawrgura &" to her bio on twitter. knowing what we know now, what have we learned?
>>116000138Senzawa never came back. It was all a nothing burger.
>>116000138damn bro that's crazy keep us posted
>>116000138what did we learn
>>116000138was she really butthurt about not owning the Gura IP despite letting it go to waste?
Why didn't she go back after Gura? Mint and Shachi just went back like nothing, Doki too. Then again going back might be more rare than I think?
What's with all the bot threads today?
>>116001179I bet Cover is though kek! They killed the golden goose. The number 1 vtuber of all time and they lost her. I commend Marine for stepping up but she can only do so much. You would think they would do more to accommodate their top vtuber? I guess they never thought she would be the peak considering not very many people are into vtubers in the first place despite the PR.
>>116001696If she is the true number 1, she will get the number 1 deal.
>>116001612she had a really annoying fanbase before gura and didn't want to revive them
>>116001742The Cover buff is real. People like Hololive more than Saba. Saba will never get those numbers back, Indies seem to have a hard limit on how far they can go.
>>116001776That was Senzawa's fault. She made the audience with her antics. She also threw her hat in the ring with Belle. Then again some other vtubers were like that too back in the day. They went corpo and changed or they just got old and tired.
>>116001696>I bet Cover is though kek! They killed the golden goose. The number 1 vtuber of all time and they lost her.I have to wonder if Yagoo regrets not settling the model redesign fights in 2022 and smoothing things over with the EN branch before it turned into a huge war. Multiple graduations (Sana, Ame, Fauna, Mumei, Gura), years of malicious compliance, and losing their biggest EN talent. Their were several different disputes going on with the EN talents but letting those disputes fester after Sana left made a lot of them cynical towards management.>>116001840>Saba will never get those numbers back,No EN talent will get the CCV numbers of 2020 Gura and that was lighting in a bottle. Still Gura did have over 4.7 million subscribers so not doing more to keep her is a baffling sign of corporate arrogance that was dumb even for a Japanese corporation. Cover merging the EN and ID branch is mostly a sign that management didn't really know what they wanted outside of Japan.
>>116000138I learned that EN vtubing is pretty much dead nowadays, it's all about twitchtubers now
>>116001612Because Senzawa comes from a stolen design from an anime.
>>116000138>>116001776
>>116001696>golden goose that laid an egg every centuryftfy also she's washed up now
>>116001637Midterms.
>>116002157>Outfitschizo
>>116001696Bait used to be believable
>>116000138poached by vshojo
>>116000138she added just the &
>>116001696In what metric is she number 1?HoloJPs absolutely destroy her ccvHalf of Hololive destroy her channel views. Hell fucking Kobo gets more views on her music than she does on both ver Saba, Senzawa and Gura channels COMBINED.Marine is about to pass her subcount.It's not even close in most metrics. Subs is all she has left, and that will end within 6 months.
>>116009910TRVKE
>>116009910beats any EN in CCVrandom cover of a song nobody knows got 3M in a month, again, not matched by any ENI'll give you Kobo, but HELP is an anomaly, check her other music>Marine is about to pass her subcount.wow an active VTuber continues to grow as opposed to graduated one? thats crazyMarine is older and a JP btwSaba absolutely mogs any EN VTuber in ccv and views, and compared to how new her channel is she's doing great in subs as well
What happened in Hololive this time? Did another girl collab with a homo or something?
>>116001776well her fanbase is still really annoying
>>116001776how was the old fanbase? I was subscribed to senzawa since probably 2018, never watched a stream, but as far as I know she streamed like 10 times in total and was a mid 3viewI can't imagine the fanbase being really prominent
>>116000138Where's the Filian video Parrot?
>>116010059Let's hope parrot can get her to stream again, kaniki :D She's not able to disagree with this manager ;)
>>116010059>how new her channel is she's doing great in subs as wellAt her current subrate she's never passing KoboI keep bringing up Kobo because I know that Kobo's metrics mogging Saba causes cumpedos to fucking froth at the mouth
>>116010512>Kobo's metrics mogging Saba causes cumpedos to fucking froth at the mouthDid the voices in your head tell you that anon?
>>116010490Okay Cuckmilo
>>116010512I like Kobo, the fuck are you talking aboutalso imagine calling us chumbuds pedos when kobo is also a loliI agree she's probably not passing Kobo in subs at this rate, not unless she starts actually streaming consistently or maybe release some songs that go viral
>>116010566essé, she was bullied into streaming by her new manager parrot4chanif not for the video about her, she would've stayed hidden
>>116010554Last I checked Kobo has significantly more subs and channel views than Saba
>>116010601i get you dont watch vtubers any more since your oshi is the laziest ligger in the toilet, but kobo literally has tits
>>116010079Nerissa and kronii sang a song with the homos. Nerissa also has been on a homo tweet liking spree so the usual retards are running around trying to deflect from it
>>116010642>channel viewsi mean Kobo has like 900 videos compared to 50 of Saba's, no shit she has more channel views
Why does Saba make parrot seethe and froth at the mouth anyway? Same for bvtm.
>>116010756jealous phase niggers, every timethey cant get over saba being more popular and relevant than their oshi despite giving relatively low effort and barely streaming
>>116010792The weird thing is that there's a couple of phase girls that like her. She's even muyu's oshi and panko likes her a lot.
>>116010859thats not weird, almost every vtuber likes her, antiing her is a mentally ill schizo thingthese types of fans don't care about what their oshi thinks or wants, they only think of themselves
>>116010702did this AI generated model not finish her mouth?
>>116011139still better than anything hollowlive has
>>116000138That she doesn't need to be her own fan to not stream.
>>116010756Panko should stream
>>116000138that she's a narcissist?
oh nyoo
>>116001776She still does
>>116000138We learned that she half asses everything she does, even her grudgeposting