peg more like jej

Seems like an anti bake.
>Last stream : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_xrI-OgI9o
I'm not happy with the shift towards deliberate culture war content and away from more core vtubing stuff, including music. I can't see this thread surviving on /vt/ very long if this is the direction she's decided on. Oh well. Win some, lose some.

>>116092814
Add nyaraVT, philip and bint to the OP

Why do lgbt and supposedly liberal people, especially white lgbt and supposedly liberal people, side with muslims, communism, and the third world, all of whom notoriously don't have a great track record with lgbt rights and liberalism?

shit thread try harder next time chud

>>116093197
This is what you deserve.

>>116093181
just hate chuds that much

>>116093181
Some of this is useful idiocy, some of this is "the enemy of my enemy is my friend," some of this is the logic of seeing humans as equal beings raised under unequal circumstances, and some of this is just being unaware of the sheer scale of hate for gays in MENA (though that region has a fuckton of closeted men).

>>116093172
Sure, when you add Singto Conley to the PCG OP
We should be spreading awareness of the trans people we cherish and the good work they do creating the music we love.

>>116093181
they are a tool to be used against the bourgeoisie and reactionaries

>>116093314
You can put him there yourself if you bake the next /pcg/ thread yourself, there's nothing stopping you

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Haven't learn anything from her vod, Brazil is two steps behind me

All things considered, 200-400ccv for an extreme leftist is actually pretty good. The only other lefty nut vtuber I can think of is Futakuchi Mana and she is barely a 2view, doesnt help she "purges" her community from time to time. Toge only really seems to ask from you to not be a hateful chud, nothing more

>>116093526
She is radicalizing the anime profile pictures in her audience.

raping and mindbreaking togepega so hard she factory resets into a chudette tradwaif

>>116093526
>Toge only really seems to ask from you to not be a hateful chud, nothing more
Being a hateful leftie is fine, though

>>116093526
Can't argue that it's unfair for there to be a leftist chuuba with some pull considering the shit Kirsche/Leaflit/etc. have tried to get away with on the other side. But it's not like she's pulling over what she was getting as Clara (relying more on her talents and not her politics) doing this, at least not yet.

>>116093689
>at least not yet.
She's alienating potential collabs and dramabaiting constantly. I've seen Vtubers like this and they only end up bleeding out fans/viewers over time, not growing
They get sudden big peaks when something really blows up, but once their numbers settle down, they have less than before

>>116093689
You can argue against it on the basis that almost all core vtuber fans dismiss the chudtubers. The closest they've every had is Pippa, who's was larping, and Jelly, who killed her reputation and shot at a bigger music audience. Toge will almost certainly suffer a similar fate if she doesn't pull up from this nosedive. None of the people cheering her on in this direction have any pull or relevance at all.

>>116093768
>I've seen Vtubers like this and they only end up bleeding out fans/viewers over time, not growing
NTA but feel free to post some examples

>>116092814
So i know shes woke and shit and probably has some appetite right now to rub it in peoples faces (especially after the dems won) but realistically, and i mean please give me a non meme answer. What are the chances she starts pandering hard to simps?

>>116093827
ririgaki, gumpai, elfin, goro, batatvideogames

>>116093827
Miguel Neko would be the most famous one

>>116093827
The alternate is to look at which vtubers would be considered successful enough to represent the hobby. I don't think a single one could be seen as explicitly political.

>>116093526
It's ridiculous to anti her with that, many vtubers have been doing it for 5+years and never got close to these views

More Tomba tonight

>>116093689
>unfair
There would be nothing unfair about it. The chuds support the everyday systemic violence of anyone the system decides to fuck over. They are the side that supports violence and protecting the powerful and privilege by shielding them from accountability and challenge.

>>116093181
The enemy of my enemy etc. No one who isnt stupid thinks muslims are progressive on the whole, real leftists are well awar eof what happened in Iran in 79. The headchoppers killed all the Marxists. They cant be trusted, theyre merely something that can be used against Israel.

>>116094899
You could flip this entire post to be about "lefties" and it would still be entirely accurate. You're not all that intelligent
Define the system.

>>116095536
There an issue with what you'd call political fundamentalism coming out of the US especially, rather than boring shit like economic policy and governance people latch on much more emotionally satisfying narratives of unqualified good and evil.
>people who cynically exploit this for their own ends are evil
>people who are true believers are dumb and being used
>people who try to avoid this are uselessly swimming against the tide
Well, what's it going to be. At least in the last bucket you can die with some dignity, even if the flow of history never lets up. What you're also choosing here is what company you get to keep. That last sentence is what's relevant to vtubing.

>>116095536
Fuck lefties too, both left and right are variants of the same oppressive system of control and rulership and are equally authoritarian in approaches. The system as we know it is the system of the prison system, borders, the courts, the education system, and private property. Left or right, the system we are subjected to is liberal democracy. It is a filthy order that has been proven to be inadequate. It was a weak system concealed by curtains to provide illusions of strength, the curtains are falling down and the illusion is breaking, yet people have the foolish idea of putting the curtains back on, before the ugliness of the system was revealed. A system of smoke and mirrors, just like all orders made to benefit the ruling privileged minority that will kill and imprison anyone who challenges them.

>>116095864
The honest answer is simply that the average person doesn't have enough knowledge to actually comment on economic policy, monetary policy, etc. It's not rocket science but you do generally need to read up a bit and actually understand why governments take the decisions that they do
You don't need to do this if you treat politics as "I'm just a heckin' good person" and spend your entire time on the social side of the aisle

>>116092814
Gave her a chance, let me know when she stops being a breadtuber

>>116096411
It won't happen. She's too entrenched.

>>116096481
NTA but I'm wondering if she's got a personal discord that's been slowly taken over by trans activism types and they've been walking her in this direction. Frankly it would explain a lot.

>>116096481
>>116096411
White women will get thrown away by that audience eventually

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Tonight's Tomba stream delayed to Thursday.

>>116093860
If by pandering to simps you mean fanservice then its not out of the realm of possibility, she was never against it as Clara. And she just threw her hat into the belly day ring.
https://x.com/togepega/status/2119395981288767713

>>116096554
She needs to radicalise young men out of their chuddy and problematic ways

>>116096603
What advantage or merit is there to men becoming lefties, though? Pretty much every leftist either directly or indirectly discriminates against them. It's just a very feminized or "underdog" ideology, so if you're not foreign or a woman, what exactly are you getting out of it?

>>116096675
We need men to bring anti-right politics back back in fashion and actually get shit done, no more of the feminised "I feel" bullshit that centres feminised feelings over truth like with the "new left". It is a pathetic ideology that uses female tactics (e.g. reputation damage, shaming others for perceived slight, language policing, focusing more on delivery rather than the message itself, suppressing the truth to spare feelings, etc)

>>116096818
But what advantage is there for men to have "anti-right" politics? The left doesn't offer them anything

>>116096853
The abolition of capitalism

>>116096922
So arguably offering them something worse than the current system

>vtubing
This is a pretty dumb discussion and belongs elsewhere if you can't tie it into channel content.

>>116093526
good for her, though through watching her stream you can see this shift to more political content is her cynical approach to getting views. Maybe this was what she wanted to do in Phase and management obviously didn't approve.
>>116093860
Have you not watched her streams? she constantly panders to simps, she knows who pays her bills and that she needs to offer them something or they leave. She just thinks doing political content is a cheat code to get views, which she is not wrong, but it kills her chances of being popular with normies

>>116096935
You think that a system where people who get rich by contributing nothing at the expense of everyone else is a good one?

>>116096986
That isn't how the current system works, though. Go look through history for even a bit, even the poorest people of today are far better off than the poorest people of even a century or two ago
Les Miserables features a sequence of a young woman pulling her teeth out and selling them in order to survive and raise her daughter and ends up withering away and dying, and that was set in the early 19th Century. Compare and contrast that the average working class person in most Western countries nowadays is overweight, if not borderline obese

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>>116096532
I'm still of the mindset that she has trolls remorse over participating in something embarrassing like GG, and while the US presidency was one thing, I think what really pushed her hard into a more activist approach was the unwarranted amount of vitriol she received late 2025. I still understand and don't fault her for it, I just think she needs to chill out a bit because some things like worrying about people using the term "foid" in Malfoid or genderbends or whatever is not worth whatever mental energy she spends on overanalyzing it. I'm sure she's worried about actual incels like those in Korea who probably believe what they read online wholeheartedly, but the rest of the world can give a shit less and just memes about the ridiculousness of it, since gifs like this tend to be spammed on normalfag friendly platforms like Instagram.

>>116096603
I'll let her if she gives me a prostate massage or pegs my hairy asshole

>>116097086
The day to day functioning of societies is held up by an underpaid underclass exploited by cheap bastards because the system incentivises it. The shit work that the system tries to hide away from more privileged groups. It is a system of exploitation. Having enough food to be obese can only give a clue to the quality of the food. Just because the body has the calories doesn't mean it has the nutrition, something that working people will not have time to fix or improve on while they are busting their asses for their shitty wages as the prices for everything go up faster than the rate of inflation.

>>116097183
She's just a leftie, all they want to do is fit in with other lefties and mentally massage themselves, calling themselves good people
She cares about what she cares about because it's trendy with her group to care about it

>>116097207
>Just because the body has the calories doesn't mean it has the nutrition, something that working people will not have time to fix or improve on while they are busting their asses for their shitty wages as the prices for everything go up faster than the rate of inflation.
Nutritious food is not expensive, you fucking retard. Go to any of your local supermarkets and look at how cheap the fruit and vegetables are there.
You typed a full paragraph and it's entirely ideological bullshit

>>116097207
uh oh can please you stop having a midwit melty

>>116097207
Please note that you are arguing against retarded cattle.

>>116097228
And when can they prepare those nutritious meals? On the weekends? For the rest of the week? What if someone has a family? Shit is so fucked that we have both parents having to work now.

>>116097228
People are spiritually malnourished.
>>116097207
>The day to day functioning of societies is held up by an underpaid underclass exploited by cheap bastards
Now you're talking my language. All this trans rights shit just seems so embarrassingly... well, boomer I guess? Where the spirit of the young online left is these days is with Teto singing Minimum Rage at her shitty fast food job, not Lady Gaga rubbing shoulders with celeb degenerates in Hollywood.

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Do you think your oshit's average CCV can ever beat the amount of people waiting for Saba 5 minutes into putting up a new frame?

>>116097737
>How do you plan to compete with Gawr Gura?
Ah yes lol. I remember that one

Put the pronouns in the bio BISH

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>>116096532
Honestly I assume it was Nyara, one of her debut goals was to make "(real) friends" and then she follows Nyara starts talking to her and then suddenly Nyara's a mod on her channel.

>>116096532
She has always been like this, she is just now "publicly" (her alt was already doing this) voicing her political opinions.
I just think it's funny how poorly informed she is on topics she cares so much about like GG, it explain all of her other opinions

>>116093181
because most of these people aren't very well-read and haven't actually thought their way to their own positions, they literally just parrot whatever they hear on tiktok or from what their favorite inflooencers say

So does this count as a bait thread? I'd mentioned in another thread that I haven't heard a single thing about her entertainment value, and got told to I obviously wouldn't in bait threads, but it's the same thing here.

>>116098523
it's a rightoid seethe thread.

>>116098535
Its a fan seethe thread actually.

>>116098523
>and got told to I obviously wouldn't in bait threads
this is part of her entertainment value, you get to watch a crazy bitch and then you come to the thread and "debate" her new mentally ill fans or just bait them for laughs

>>116092814
I want her to peg my ass

>>116098523
She's an exceptional singer with good taste in music and she's got a good sense of humor. Watch her when she sings or plays a game. Don't watch her when she's feigning intellect. Or don't watch her at all, if you prefer. Plenty of girls out there fill a similar niche without the baggage.

toge is awesome

Togedis

>>116098523
I'll tack on and say that the first sentence of: >>116098734 really depends on you as a person. Her first cover on her new channel really wasn't that good and her humor is mostly sex=funny. So your mileage may vary. You are an adult and can make your own decisions but there is a legitimate reason why she keeps getting bait threads.