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Live nowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_mQ4XK9VoMAstel MC with Ikikatsu
https://x.com/Ngamber9/status/2119405371521737069
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cptcUylx4E&t=9628>Altare had a meeting with the higher-ups>Took a while to get one because they couldn't make time for him>Didn't even seem to know why he was there>Asked them what is Holostars>It's a place where you make content etc>What are your plans for Holostars>Crickets>So from the beginning you had no plans for Holostars' growth?>No answer>What about the future? What if we hit our KPIs?>No answer>It's like they've just been winging it>Brought up how in the beginning Yagoo mentioned how Tempus was for the boys>That was bullshit, that was never their plan and they had to pivot for the huge male viewership they got>The original plan was always to appeal to women, that they'd get "75% female audience guaranteed">Altare lost a lot of respect for Yagoo that day>Don't lie to us during the interviewI cut down the wordiness so I'd recommend listening to him too. Before this he mentioned since the JP downsizing there isn't really anyone left for him to look to for inspiration, that only Izuru really inspires him, but even then he's been out of touch with his content. He misses Rio the most.Today he raided Astel and commented, Astel replied he wants to meet him/have a meal but Altare didn't respond to it, who knows if he heard it.
>>116109302This guy sure complains a lot. He’s going to miss the days Yagoo, despite everyone telling him it’s a waste of money, paid his and the rest of the stars salaries. Assistant manager at McDonalds is heading his way.
>>116109302JP died because of EN and EN can't give a solitary fuck about their senpai.
>>116109421Yagoo never did that.
>>116109302Everyone knows management is just waiting for the concert to be over before pulling the plug on Holostars altogether.Deserved, him especially. He's done nothing but whine for four years.
>>116102654I miss him...
>>116109302Bruh those crickets at every question Altare had were brutal. No wonder the boys seem so demotivated sometimes if this is what the execs have for them
Astel chuki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_aUUEAwZ7oRoberu zatsudan
See this is what happens when you hire EN boys who used to watch just hololive.They seem to think that just because they are part of Hololive and the first male vtubers from hololive they are going to be handed opportunities and offers from the get go.As if the JP boys hadn't had to drag themselves through hell to get some kind of validation, putting back breaking work into consistent streaming and finding people to collab and get their names out.Retard couldn't even get a proper song out because "it was not to his standards" And his singing is still dog shit, that autotuned bullshit in Axels holopro collab song made me instantly click off it.I fucking HATE holostars en
>>116114999You're free to have opinions about the individual boys, but I'm most concerned that cover opened a new branch without any concrete plans.That just makes the doomed from the start. Any effort put forward is ultimately wasted due to corpo inadequacies.And if you see JP senpais put forward effort and still get downsized, that just kills your spirit.
>>116115284I think they just saw Luxiem blowing up and wanted a piece of the pie. Considering Cover's strategy for JP was just "treat them like Hololive" they probably thought copying NijiEN would also result in a huge success.
>>116109302I'm reminded of Izuru's comment in muteki marika where he said the higher ups probably can't even tell their voices apart.
>>116115434Once again dumb idea. Even back in 2022, JP was still smaller numbers than they were now so how they saw that and thought "perfect time to open an EN branch" is nuts to me.I say this as a lover of both EN and JP I can't really find in me to hate any of guys even if they do make stupid choices sometimes because the company just stumbles and gave no direction. You can have the most talented ppl ever but if you have no plan it's not gonna work
https://x.com/Deluta_IV/status/2119753692056633487Deluta Schedule
>>116109619Total en death
Why didn't they just remove support for EN at the same time as JP?
>>116115284>And if you see JP senpais put forward effort and still get downsized, that just kills your spirit.Pretty sure they are the reason why JP got this insulting treatment.If only they just worked with the OG9...No uproar no EN, just the OG9
>>116119261They have removed some support from EN—they've mentioned budget cuts and how it's a "make or break" year—but removing all support for both branches at the same time would be an even worse look than it already does.I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happens to EN next year after their Live.
>>116119261Technically they did but they didn't announce it like JPIn April shinri stated that their projects now were more invididual.Bday merch now has to be asked for and it's standardized instead of personalized>>116119547This is an interesting statement, cause even if you blame EN, still goes back to corpo stumblingBut I admit I'm not sure of how holostars were managed before 2022, was it good?
>>116115607It's just stupid from the talents to resign and cry, instead of either quitting or putting in actual effort to do numbers and get things from themselves.The problem is that (aside from like 3 people) none of them are creators and just want to be made into celebrities by the corpo.
https://youtu.be/UJ4kN3vSB2EHoly fuck it actually stings...I wasn't expecting to actually feel sad
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Xt2VOpbT5hMSasuga chinpotaro
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>>116119547>Debut Uproar>Treat them as separate, don't even allow them to do projects with senpai in the first few months>Uproar doesn't grow so just toss them in with OG9 but still treat them as their own group >This results in OG9 no longer getting events/songs/merch for themselves, Uproar is always included. WatH even gets rewritten to include them>But Uproar still get to have their own group stuffI like Uproar but as an OG9fag I'm still mad.
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>>116119261Don't want to be mean but at least CCV-wise EN had much higher numbers than JP. Like another anon said cutting out both at the same time would have been an even worse look and they were already getting raked over the coals on Twitter during the downsizing days.Also I don't know if I'm misremembering but I think Shien once talked about an anecdote where he was passing by the studio, and heard a Holo girl was recording something in one of the 3D rooms. He said he wanted to stop by and say hi but two or three staff members PHYSICALLY BLOCKED the door and told him he wasn't allowed to even greet one of the girls.Like I mean, if the girl asks to be separated because of X or Y reason thats understandable. I get that a lot of women are scared of men in general or they just don't want to deal with people spreading weird rumors. But treating the boys like that is just...
>>1161196472019: Horrible, they had no staff on debut, just Yagoo as acting manager and a dream. Cover tweeting out to fans not to associate Holostars with Hololive and not mention them, they retract this a few months later but it painted a taboo that never left. Astel has talked about giving ideas before debut and being rejected because there was no "precedent" for them, only for management to later utilize them.2020: Shinove singlehandedly carrying Holostars2021: Golden year, 3D debuts leading up to first live was perfect storytelling, lots of channel content to attract fans with, Shinove making things happen and saving people's dreams.2022: Still relatively okay, but this is where management got greedy with Uproar, EN, a second live not even a year later, countdown, etc. This is what fans talked about and ultimately what Cover admitted to: treating them the same as Hololive even though their rate of growth was different. We also now know from Fuma and Uyu how management were stifling their ideas as to not cause "trouble" for Hololive. It's also the year Shinove left. Everyone acted like they'd be okay, but it was a huge blow, especially since the following year...2023: Cover goes public. This is where things go to shit, JP is hit with cutbacks right at the start of the fiscal year, no live, there's still a countdown but it was apparently a "miracle" it happened and started 20 min after Hololive's (and no management didn't tell anyone, so fans were just staring at a blank screen in the Holostars Arena for 20 minutes), Cover stops trying anything new with Holostars.Bonus: In the early days a lot of JP's growth was thanks to kaigai fans. There's no way Cover was not aware of the percentage of kaigai in their audience, what they might have not realized (because they're retarded) was that debuting an EN branch was going to decimate that audience for JP--and it did, especially when JP was not aware of the branch and it was kept completely separate, so the branches never properly worked together outside of full Cover events like the expo. What's more JP content started to become less accessible for kaigai. I remember Yagoo once said he wanted more oversea viewers for JP, hilariously enough.
LR Masters won yesterday's Masters Cup so they snagged 3 points, but because of LR's losses in the first half of LTK their 4th place was pretty much locked in for playoffs.They still have a shot at winning, but being in 4th comes with the disadvantage that their opponents get to choose the order teams play in and map side for the first match. Playoffs are on 21/22.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXO1M3WoX6wRoberu P5S
https://youtube.com/watch?v=x7TIPnZeoQ0Fuma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71S_okAjjrYAstel karaoke
