Is their grift coming to an end soon?
Theirs maybe but you'll now have to deal with the lefty grifters.
On the contrary Political grifters are always strongest when their side ISN’T in power
minor setback. the pendulum will swing back in 2 years when people realize just how insane the togepega types are
Yes, the two on top will die and remain stuck in the public image as everything they voted against, they grifted too close to the Sun. But the two on the buttom will adapt and survive
i think everything is about to escalate to surreal, uncontrollable levels.
>>116114416>"please just love and respect each other guys">insane
>>116114352The fun starts in January
>>116114626>tomoe says this exactly>triggers a wave of harassment against her from culture war brained shitheads that lasts for daysThe people are tired of watching their vtubers get dragged for resisting leftist struggle sessions. Politislop fatigue is here.
>>116114729There will be no fun for you, the dems don't have a supermajority in either chamber of congress so they have no lawmaking power with Trump still being the president
>>116114626It's "you WILL respect my mental illness or you're going to jail you fucking huwhite male"
>>116114985>you WILL respectI know this is impossible for the chuddites
>>116114997If you pretend to be a woman why should others have to play along?
>>116114974not like it'd matter. cheeto in chief or whatever had control of everything for ages and still only made things worse, and his sycophants will continue to attack chuubas while pretending to be victims because that's just the world in 2026 apparently. It's all so tiring.
>>116115049The other side also attacks chuubas for catering to incels and what have you.They all need to fuck off.
>>116115076There's still a bit of a difference in scale, and if you don't see that, then I'm afraid there's no hope for you. Especially in the context of vtubers. They're everything your "side" hates to the point where I don't know why any of you even pretended to like them in the first place.
>>116115049>cheeto in chief or whatever had control of everything for agesHow many times did he beg the republicans to pass the save america act, and it never even went up for a vote? American politics is a one party system and they're just waiting out his term.
>>116115114>There's still a bit of a difference in scalenta but yeah. The harassment almost entirely comes from one side.>>116114941
>>116115114I don't think I've even heard a rightoid talk about chuubas. I see tons of trannies and leftoids trying to police the medium despite being invaders like always.Hence the existence of this thread.
>>116115148It's weird you use that example when even Tomoe doesn't blame that "side" for anything, instead ditching the military theming due to its association with the chuds and grifters like OP. Is virtue signalling all you can do? It's already clear you don't watch streams.
>>11611435215 minutes of fame is over, time to get a real job
>>116115176>Tomoe doesn't blame that "side" for anythingYes she does. Every few months she relearns the lesson that one "side" will hate and harass her for no other reason than being herself, and no amount of reasoning and dialog will change that. Honestly, that side should just fuck off from vtubers since it's clear they don't actually care about vtubing, they only want to coerce the girls into repeating their leftist slop.
>>116114985>huwhiteIts been a while since ive read that word, thanks anon
>>116114352Nope, because now they're going to pivot the grift to the same siege mentality mindset they had under Obama and Biden where the forces of woke are in charge of the world and are actively making it a worse place to live in. At least now chuds can start acting like a downtrodden resistance again; this despite the fact that their people ran all branches of government for two years straight and did nothing to better anyone's lives.
How about we roundup every single leftist and right winger and systematically kill them all? I think after we do that the world will be a less shitty place.
>>116115360They never stopped acting like they were under siege. They love having a victim complex.
>>116114941>tomoeIt was pretty disingenuous to act like she was politically neutral when she panders to chuds, networks with outspoken conservatives, signal boosts dramafags like Legal Mindset, had a shockingly obvious dogwhistle joke as a response to Trump's victory two years ago, and straight up lied about what she could and couldn't say while "in uniform" (yes, she's legally allowed to express her political opinions while in active duty, albeit with some caveats).
>>116115076Says the side that harassed Clara out of a job over a single dark humor joke that wasn't even on her main, but on her RM's private instagram. The same side that is also proud about harassing chuubas for male collabs or doxxing chuubas who want privacy.>>116115168>I don't think I've even heard a rightoid talk about chuubasYou are being willfully ignorant. Look at the OP and read any of the replies of people posting under their tweets.
>>116115260Case in point.>>116115410Follow policing, damning evidence that's never actually produced, lying about what she is or isn't allowed to say while in the service. And when all else fails, fall back on the tried and true angle of just her being in the military is political.
>>116115601>lying about what she is or isn't allowed to say while in the serviceOpenly disavowing the chuds in her community would not count as partisan activity, yet she refuses to do so and lies that she's unable to do so because she's on their side, no matter how loose she pretends to play her affiliations.
>>116115601Tweeting out a "lets all be nice teehee :3" kumbaya message at the advent of a generational blue victory while being semi-celebratory during a red victory like in >>116115410 is pretty sus.
>t. epstein / bannon psyop website
>>116115686right? its hilarious for anyone to act this way when the whole maga worldview was something psyopped into existence and theres literal proof of thatoh well
>>116115675>social security>fair labor laws and worker's rights in general>medicare>minimum wage>increased social equalityYou're not living like a feudal serf because of those darn leftists.
>>116115500Clara has been in four different agencies in the past and she doesn't have a single vtuber she can call a friend. Maybe Clara is the bitch?Also these threads are made by the leftist, tranny losers coming from /r/vtuberdrama. As the name implies, it's a community that thrives on vtuber drama. They have an incentive to want bad things to happen to vtubers and vtubing generally, and they are incentivized to make those bad things happen to vtubers, such is the case of Tomoe getting harassed. The majority if not the entirety of that user base are hyperpartisan, brainwashed, utterly retarded left-wingers. If we want to play this sides game, there is only one side that wants to make vtubing bad.
>>116115710This faggot is from /r/vtuberdrama by the way.
>>116115718>The majority if not the entirety of that user base are hyperpartisan, brainwashed, utterly retarded left-wingersAs opposed to the hyperpartisan, brainwashed, utterly retarded right-wingers on /vt/?
>>116115740Also these threads are made by the leftist, tranny losers coming from /r/vtuberdrama. As the name implies, it's a community that thrives on vtuber drama. They have an incentive to want bad things to happen to vtubers and vtubing generally, and they are incentivized to make those bad things happen to vtubers, such is the case of Tomoe getting harassed. The majority if not the entirety of that user base are hyperpartisan, brainwashed, utterly retarded left-wingers. If we want to play this sides game, there is only one side that wants to make vtubing bad.
>>116115755bot broke.
>>116115772Stop harassing Tomoe, tranny. She's a valued member of the mainstream vtubing community. Unlike your left-wing bitch that everybody ignores and that has no vtuber friends because she clearly is a bad person.
>>116115500>Says the side that harassed Clara out of a jobHardly, she was welcomed back in despite that controversy and still decided to quit. Phase didn't fire her, and phase is filled with other leftoid troon lovers that are vocal about it as their vtuber selves.>The same side that is also proud about harassing chuubas for male collabs/vt/ trolls aren't human. They take unicorn complaints and turn them into ragebait. Conversely leftoids would call anyone that doesn't like male collabs an incel/chud/etc. and brand them as deserving complete social banishment as per their usual rhetoric, if not worse.Which is ironic because a significant amount of unicorns/anti male collab dudes are probably anti-feminist except in the case of the vtuber sphere where the majority of male vtubers are sexpests and clout leeches. But as we see in real life, only one group actually cares about keeping men out of female spaces.>or doxxing chuubasLet's not forget the biggest doxx site was run by nijisisters, nobody would ever call them rightoids.The simple reality is that just like IRL, fans just want to be left alone to enjoy their hobby, and culture war brainrotted subhumans(you) want to do everything you can to turn it into a political battleground for progressivism/religion of choice/etc. That's why this thread was made, because people like you are mindbroken by some grifters like yourselves on the other side and vice versa. You don't care about vtubing, you care about how you can use it as a tool to further your political agendas.
>>116115966Go back to /r/vtuberdrama
Alana only talks to Kirsche and doesn't even associate with the other two, isn't really that political, and isn't shunned by everyone who isn't a rightoid grifter. She's on good terms with a lot of other vtubers who aren't part of the right wing echo chamber undesirables, unlike the other 3Why is she even included here when there are better examples
>>116115966>she was welcomed back in despite that controversy and still decided to quitYeah, no shit because phaseshitters wouldn't stop harassing her over her private activities. Phase may not have sacked her, but its pretty obvious in retrospect that the increasingly toxic community was a big reason for her departure.>/vt/ trolls aren't human. They take unicorn complaints and turn them into ragebaitNo true conservative.>But as we see in real life, only one group actually cares about keeping men out of female spaces.Don't try to act like you champion the woman's choice when those very same choices lead to more harassment from your side when those women are perceived to have stepped out of line.>Let's not forget the biggest doxx site was run by nijisistersCan we stop acting like nyfco was the most influential dox site when they died off years ago and most of the info was and is being sourced from right-wing kiwi this whole time?>culture war brainrotted subhumans(you) want to do everything you can to turn it into a political battleground for progressivism/religion of choice/etcLook in the mirror, retard. Transfolx or whatever participating in the hobby is not inherently political. People making a big deal out of it because muh traditional values in my otaku hobby ARE.>people like you are mindbroken by some grifters like yourselves on the other side and vice versa>You don't care about vtubing, you care about how you can use it as a tool to further your political agendasNo one is getting pressed over left-wing politubers like Togepega. Its always right-wing personalities like in the OP that are always stirring shit. And they always do turn out to be actual grifters too, lest we forget names like elfinpsyop, ririgaki, and gumpai.
>>116116149>No one is getting pressed over left-wing politubers like Togepega. Its always right-wing personalities like in the OP that are always stirring shit.So, by your own admission, your side is freaking out that "right-wing" personalities exist, and, because YOU'RE making a stink about it, they're too controversial to exist. That's very convenient.
>>116114409ThisThere will be grifting the likes of which you've never seen before
>>116114352Being in an underdog position is actually BETTER for political grifters. They'll have plenty of DEI and trans shit to rail at.
Is it a grift if you truly support what you are saying? This is not like hasan a turkish roach pretending he gives a fuck about lgbt while his own family calls people they hate faggot
>>116115679sus of what?
>>116117149It's not grifting if you believe it but most right wing entertainers don't, they're just in it for the cash.
>>116117149Most of the so called "right-wing" vtubers popped up shortly before the 2024 election or after that orange cretin got elected, which makes you think.
>>116117149Why didn't the government pay a crack head to get rid of him? Because he's useful probably.
Chud grifting is pretty much dead
>>116114352 Most people that watch this shit aren't American anyways so any developments there barely affect MIGA slop viewership.
>>116114352Whenever a woman has an opinion that doesn't follow the program she has to be punished. Being a woman is rough and I feel like that needs to be acknowledged. Could you imagine have to grit your teeth and bare a hairy ape in a dress going into the stall next to you and then having to say thank you after they leave? It's a horrible way to live.
>is their grift coming to an end soon?vtubers? no
Chuds are evil scumbags. It's good they lost.>inb4 huh so you think the democrats will fix X Y and Z? Don't care. We're here to humiliate you and laugh at you. You will never learn or understand why everyone turned on you, and you will double down on your victim complex.
>i don't care about governance! i just want to cheer for my side on the internet!Where did it all go so wrong
>>116119665Trump 2016 turned american politics into a zero sum game of izzat. You will never get any real victories only twitter brownie points to own the libs.No deportations or affordability. Only malfoid and anakin and hopefully soon captain America and thor
>>116119353based
They might be in the middle of a civil war over a trans vtuber, but at least they aren't a walking punchline for normalfags like Rev has become. And this is well after phasefags dragged him after the tarrifs fucked with their merch.
>>116121132In case you forgot
>>116114352Kirsche and Alana are fine. Leaflit is a dumbass, not necessarily a grifter but she's very gullible. Don't know the other one.
Powdur has already changed to grift off the upcoming Democrat regime.
>>116121345>>116122152
Retarded miggersYou should have listened
>>116114626>>>116114416 #>>"please just love and respect each other guys">murders people in broad daylight that are willing to debate with them. That have committed no crimes and are guilty of only saying words.You can die. No one believes you anymore. Not a single person that isnt already in your cult.
>>116125318>WE ARE CHARLIE KIRK!C'mon anon
>>116125318>"i just want good-faith debate to discover the truth">doesn't believe in evolutioncome back when you uninstall your npc chip
>>116125345>>116125408Unfortunately >>116125318 is right. Normal people see that violent rhetoric and aren't really on board. The midterm thing was just gas prices and sandland part 46. In terms of social capital anything more to the left is seen as either corporate pedophile-coded or stupid violent kids that don't seem super well informed. You can argue the opposite all day but it won't be true no matter how many times you repeat it.
>>116126391>>116125318really weird attempts at rewriting history.the right is known for shit like driving through crowds of people at rallies, gassing/killing protestors, and attempting to break into lefty houses, churches, and schools trying to shoot people, or literally attempting to stage a coup at the white house.Then one dude gets shot while literally saying how it's okay for kids to get shot and they lose their minds and start attacking random chuubas as part of their culture war. Pippa bringing these people in was the worst thing to happen to western vtubing.
>>116116149>Phase may not have sacked her, but its pretty obvious in retrospect that the increasingly toxic community was a big reason for her departure.And phase's fanbase is a putrid amalgamation of 4chan, twitter, and other brown retards across multiple social media sites. Most of them have no involvement with, and aren't actual American left/right wingers, even if they parrot their rhetoric.>No true conservative.See above. Also one of them trooned out and tried to shoot up a place filled with right wing boomers.>Don't try to act like you champion the woman's choice when those very same choices lead to more harassment from your side when those women are perceived to have stepped out of line.I'm not, I'm saying you're acting against the stereotypical leftoid position of being a "champion of women" as a male ally/whatever retarded feminist ideal it is now, because the incels/chuds/unicorns/etc. that don't like male collabs are the ones you're demonizing for wanting to keep shitty men out of the space. All because you think the reasons for it are bad(they aren't).They're the ones that fund most of this hobby and who made it this popular. The niji style co-ed collab shit is not popular outside of a relatively small group of fujos in Japan and china, and virtually none of their women are popular.In fact the one thing that unicorns do is piss off both sides of the political spectrum, because leftoids think they're controlling incels, and rightoids think they're men haters. The reality is they hate leeching sexpest men that are ruining their hobby of cute anime girls, and that male vtubers are poison to the content they like.>Can we stop acting like nyfco was the most influential dox site when they died off years ago and most of the info was and is being sourced from right-wing kiwi this whole time?Nope, the majority of JP doxx is also spread by nijiniggers as well. You're pointing out proctor and his few groupies that are terminal clipwatching niggers, and he even gets dragged by people for doing that shit.Most vtuber doxx isn't politically motivated either, it's usually just antis. You're looking for a convenient scapegoat while ignoring the fact that a lot of people that share your beliefs are doing really bad shit in yet another medium they've spent years attempting to fill with progressivism cancer that ALWAYS leads to cultue warring bullshit.>Look in the mirror, retard. Transfolx or whatever participating in the hobby is not inherently politicalIs "participating in the hobby" supposed to mean vtweeting that they "want to transition children to own right wingers"?>People making a big deal out of it because muh traditional values in my otaku hobby ARESee above. There are no apolitical trannies, in western vtubing at least. It's a cult wherever they infest.>No one is getting pressed over left-wing politubers like TogepegaLiterally who? Try to be less disingenuous if you're just going to bring up some 2view as a heckin' wholesome comparison to "popular" rightoid vtubing grifters.
>>116114352It is possible they believe the things they say.
>>116129993tl;dr >no TRUE rightwinger/polfag would do any of that! Meanwhile ALL lefties are evil and do this, this, and this! Go back already. No, you never funded anything, and chuubas represent everything you seem to hate. Why are you even here?
>>116130158>tl;dr >>no TRUE rightwinger/polfag would do any of that! Meanwhile ALL lefties are evil and do this, this, and this!Expected typical reductionism because you can't refute anything I said, and my few examples directly contradict all of your stated points.>Go back alreadyI'm already home in this hobby, have been since 2016, nigger. I can already tell by the reaction images you post you joined well after 2020.>No, you never funded anythingThousands in merch, tickets, and memberships for years.>chuubas represent everything you seem to hateNo, your tranny and left/right culture warring, vtweeting, twitch whore and homo westoids aren't representative of vtubers, and they never will be.Enjoy spending more years complaining about MUH GRIFTERS in your """""hobby""""" despite actively supporting those that are ruining it, along with all other otaku media and hobbies. They're closer to grifters than most of the retards you bitch about who are just rightoids that disagree with you politically. Which you care about their existence more than the integrity of the medium itselfKill yourself, tertiary.
>>116130407>have been since 2016, nigger.lol If that were true, you would've actually assimilated and understood that vtubers hate your guts.Unless you're into that, in which case have fun being a pest, I guess.
>>116130407>who are just rightoids that disagree with you politically.every single one of your "rightoid" chuubas always get outed (by your own doxxfags) as actually hating you and faking it for your money. Usually with a minority-skinned boyfriend on top of everything. Even Pippa's spent the last year or so trying to ditch your asses. I'm sure it's just a coincidence, though.
>>116130575>every single one of your "rightoid" chuubasI can guarantee I've seen less of these retards than you have. You've spent days responding to this OP, you care a lot more than anyone else in this thread, which is typical for culture warring faggots such as yourself to be this mindbroken.>Usually with a minority-skinned boyfriend on top of everything. Even Pippa's spent the last year or so trying to ditch your asses.Very emblematic of the stereotypical internet leftoid's malice, good thing I don't watch phase whores or any of the ones in the OP. Keep attempting to aim more cuck post fantasies at people you think are your perfect enemy, I'm just hoping you finally decide to attend a political rally instead of bitching online, and get curbstomped in your desired civil war larp so you can get out of my hobby.
>>116130709>You've spent days responding to this OP>>116130158this was my first post in the thread but you triedSorry the world doesn't seem to match your narrative, but I'm sure if you stockpile guns and post enough about how much you hate women or whatever a vtuber will fall from heaven onto your dick or something
>>116130775>this was my first post in the threadI'm sure>but I'm sure if you stockpile guns and post enough about how much you hate women or whatever a vtuber will fall from heaven onto your dick or somethingNot your rapist.Again, you're mindbroken by these rightoids. I want you both out of my hobby, but leftoids are objectively doing more damage to all otaku media and hobbies than some bible thumping "vtuber" that's giving you fake PTSD of your early childhood of being taken to church or whatever repressed baggage you have that compels you to make everything in life political. YOU are the culture war poison, and your group is the one actively ruining vtubing and my otaku hobbies with your bullshit.Eat shit and die.
>>116130575>outedWho're you even watching? I can't think of a single chudchuuba who doesn't regularly call their own viewers retarded.
>>116131002>Not your rapist.you mean>no true rightoid
>>116131002Sounds like you're mindbroken by "leftoids". Also you're not the ultimate authority on vtubing that gets to decide who should be participating
>>116115410>tomoeI bet she is really glad jumping from right wing pro army to a loli slut
>>116131056Thanks for proving you lied>>116131147>no u attemptModern leftism has actively ruined all otaku media for decades.If the rightoids in the OP are, by your admission, damaging the medium with politics, then the same is true for leftoids, whose current beliefs are far more damaging to all otaku hobbies.>Also you're not the ultimate authority on vtubing that gets to decide who should be participatingI am actually. Far more qualified than you and the guy above you, latecomers that seek to use this hobby as yet another battleground for culture war propaganda.
>>116131353I'm afraid you're actively participating in culture war bullshit whilst claiming to be above it, you're an unserious person
>>116131613Part of gatekeeping is having to engage with those that don't belong, who must be kept out. Hope this helps!
>>116131656You're not very good at this, then. It's clear you were never actually the target audience and just desperately want to shoehorn in your culture war rather than participate with actual fans or the creators themselves.
>>116114352no retreating to the hyper-sane i fear thats grounds for public execution in their camp
>>116131848I think I'm doing a pretty good job, most of the losers replying to me had to resort to smuggy posting.>It's clear you were never actually the target audienceYou retards can keep repeating this but I've already been the target audience for almost a decade, you tertiaries aren't going to continue to infect my hobby without pushback>just desperately want to shoehorn in your culture warAgain with the tu quoque attempt. Surely we've got another new "not that anon" replying here on this dead board replying to this niche thread, and aren't just trying to pass a drumpf melty off as "just trolling" after losing every argument for the entire thread.>rather than participate with actual fans or the creators themselvesPosters like me are the few actual vtuber fans on this board, and you aren't interacting with creators /here/ outside of the twitch whores your kind is partial to. Otherwise this board lost its soul last year, it's a glorified drama board outside of the very few people that come here to vent criticisms that can't be aired on other forums, which is the only good use of this site.You wouldn't be crying about me calling out culture war propagandists such as yourself, and trying to flip it back onto me(no rebuttal/argument), if I wasn't correct.>erm you're engaging with it thoughIsn't an argument, actual midwit response. Countless otaku hobbies have been ruined by not pushing back when these propagandists invaded our spaces. Effectively>Stop talking about people ruining your hobby!This thread only exists because some tranny got upset at some fat rightoid bitches hurting their feelings.My responses exist because I don't want any of the political whiners ruining my hobbies. I'm recognizing that one side is more responsible for this political rot though, you can't go putting the blame on fundies for censoring freedom of expression in [current year].Is that clear enough for you?
>>116132291>had to resort to smuggy posting.we're "smuggy posting" because it's funny watching you type out a novel after being called a retarded culture war tourist. (which you are)
>>116132383>it's funnyYeah it's funny seeing your copes after the meltdown that started all of this:>not like it'd matter. cheeto in chief or whatever had control of everything for ages and still only made things worse, and his sycophants will continue to attack chuubas while pretending to be victims because that's just the world in 2026 apparently.t. mindbroken culture war touristYou hate these vtubers because they don't like trannies or something. You're more concerned with spending most of your time on this board complaining about the political leanings of "grifters" that upset you by the way.For the record this is the first time in a looong while I've spent any time responding to you parasites because this isn't usually on topic. I guarantee you've spent more time complaining about "grifters" and "pickmes" on this board than you've ever spent watching streams.
>>116132533>t. mindbroken culture war touristwe don't sign our posts here, but glad you're honest about it now.
>>116132605Trying to pass off like you're trolling now might have worked if you weren't mindbroken by some obese rightoid whore's opinions.
>>116132655(me) Anyway I'm out now, you're running in circles after getting put on blast.Just remember you've always been an outsider to otaku hobbies and no amount of your culture war crybaby tantrums will change that.
>>116132655>rightoidokay that's funny, especially if you're implying kirsche from the obese comment. You're really proving you don't watch streams or pay any attention at all to these girls. Imagine claiming Kirsche is against trannies
>>116132872NTA(yeah, there's a lot of schizophrenia in this thread but I'm seriously not that anon) but I'm not going to watch Hasan to properly loathe him, his fans are enough. The same goes to Kirsche and her obnoxious simps
>>116114352I'm not sure I understand why these are popular to begin with? They literally said that they would NOT fuck (You), so what's the point? The whole point of the political grift is that those guys are looking for women with the same political compass to procreate with.Also Leaflit is the dumbest of the 4 by far. But she supports AI so
>>116115260>one "side" will hate and harass her for no other reason than being herselfPeople are dunking on her because she very clearly favors one political side while acting like a fencesitter.>inb4 muh militaryShe's bullshitting about not being able to talk politics while in service.
>>116129993>The niji style co-ed collab shit is not popular outside of a relatively small group of fujos in Japan and chinaRetarded larper detected. Niji is bigger than Hololive in Japan. Say what you want about Holo having better streaming metrics, Niji absolutely slays them in the domestic market which is more significant than the rapidly shrinking international market.
>>116115710Yes I'm sure you bringing in infinity third worlders had no impact on wages and quality of living in Europe and America whatsoever. Leftism might have been good a century ago, but now you've unironically ruined the western world.
Powdur is a communist, she took a political test and got the equivalent of China and Vietnam
>>116135253>90% of the wealth is hoarded by the same 0.1% of bad actors>blames the poor guy next to themThe right in a nutshell, everybody!
>>116135482 <-- Reddit in a nutshell, everybody!
>>116135499And as always, the right is incapable of making arguments or memes without stealing it from the left!Boy, we're hitting all the stereotypes today, aren't we?
>>116135521Stealing what? You write like a faggot.
>>116131353>If the rightoids in the OP are, by your admission, damaging the medium with politics, then the same is true for leftoidsThis is a fair take imoThe focus on irl politics takes the focus off vtubing itself as a creative product.
>>116131353>Modern leftism has actively ruined all otaku media for decades.You’re a deranged loser
People are tired of chuds and their retarded takes. We just literally had a historic blue cum blast on all the chuds faces. Fucking Texas is now blue that is how fucking tired everyone is of chuds and their low iq crayon eating dementia.
>believing in liberal democracy>believing voting democrat will save youyou really are a shit eating retarded boot-licking goblin faggot arent you
>>116132383sex with mumei