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>>116116430
So he just admits they all joined to be sexpests?

I swear I heard about him having some outburst like every few months.
Can he just graduate already?

>>116116410
Total Homo Death

>>116116440
I think what he meant was they were told their audience will be mostly females but what in turn happened was their audience was mainly men which proves cover didn't even know what the hell they were supposed to do with Homos.

Since projects are designed months to years prior to debut Homos were basically burning money trying to attract females instead of focusing on men

cool feel free to leave then

He is unfit to be the leader. Jurard should be the face and leader of Holostars.

>the "we want the Luxiem audience" thirst from Fagoo was real (not that it's a surprising revelation)
>brotubers were always a cope that they pivoted to
So we can surmise that the first gen Homos always expected to be Vox-clones pandering to fujos and they only pivoted to muh bros bullshit after seeing what their actual fanbase was like.

>>116116467
And then the male audience evaporated when vesper/magni left. That graduation/termination, whatever the fuck that was, basically lead to stars destruction. If they had stayed I don't believe the stars would be in this situation.

I feel bad for him. I don’t watch Holostars but it sucks having to find out your boss and pretty much the company don’t give a fuck about you and have no prospects for your future while simultaneously wanting you to stay. I think him voicing out disappointment is pretty valid and seeing some of these anons make me think a lot of y’all would defend shitty CEO’s if it means fucking up the career of someone you don’t like.

>>116116571
If they didn't give a fuck about them, they wouldn't want them to stay.
You implying malice for something that can easily be explained by incompetency.

>>116116467
Men fail to realize how low value they are in society.
>get sent to die in some warzone because the government tells you to
>try-hard gymbros have to settle for fat and lazy women
>try-hard intellectuals have to settle for sloppy seconds
What woman would watch a loser moid who's too ugly to show his face and only joined to sex pest female vtubers? even fujos can do better than a male vtuber, all they have to do is exist.

This is homocope. He was bitching about unfair conditions and ghosting his manager well before THD. He's just upset because Omega isn't around to spoil him and DA BOIZ anymore.

>>116116410
Is it any wonder he keeps basically disappearing? I don't particularly care for the homos but I think he's one of the least egregiously bad ones and it sucks to get a golden ticket like hololive only to be told nobody cares about you and they never had a plan for you to begin with

>>116116571
The fact that he's shitting on his biggest fan who is the only reason he exists is a little silly. I get that it's in his blood to hate the Japanese but it's really self-hatred motivating him at the end of the day.

>>116116571
>y'all
you and him both can fuck off for
>supporting the cause!!1

Can Vtubers advance in a company? It's not like you can Vtube your way into a manager position or anything. Its a creative consumer facing position. You're either popular or you're not.

>>116116625
>What woman would watch a loser moid who's too ugly to show his face and only joined to sex pest female vtubers?
Your oshi :D

>>116116661
My oshi's ugly so they're perfect for each other.

>>116116571
Fagoo having no plans for Homos beyond "a legion fujos will just spontaneously spawn from the void and choose to watch us instead of Manjisanji" absolutely deserves criticism, but only from the perspective of someone who cares about how Cover's resources are being wasted.

At the end of the day there's no timeline in which these talentless losers could succeed, there was never a way to save them. On the other hand Hololive got successful without the business suits help, they built the fanbase entirely on their own with their talent, Cover's "ideas" contributed exactly 0 to it. So it's only fair to set the same standards for Homos - if they want a fanbase, go work on it yourself.

>>116116440
He did or zlmost fucked Kronii. Bet

>>116116544
That much is quite obvious. We just got extra context for why they suddenly pivot to "brotubers" not even a day after debut.

>I need management to tell me what to do
I guess calli's filtering dont apply to holostars because holy fuck

>>116116544
it was a deliberate mix. Nothing about Vesper's ugly model, or his old content (an orc in an office shirt talking about old millennial shit) was targeted to females. He didn't have a female audience as Randon. Magni was very much meant to be a generalist, his old content skewed male, it was the old "lol femboys am i rite?" mid-2000s anituber humor. Axel was mostly meant for girls albeit ones that could tolerate FPS. Altare was 100% for girls with his gay breathy effected voice and Koreanisms.

Nobody cares what men feel.

>>116117046
Funny how the straightest males in stars only attract the biggest homos.

This is too gay even for >>>/lgbt/

>>116116571
>your boss and pretty much the company don’t give a fuck about you and have no prospects for your future
That's to be expected when all you have been doing was leeching off the more popular section of the company while making no profit for several years. You can't expect Cover to keep throwing money into that black hole called homostars. If anything, 3-4 years (for homoEN) and 6-7 (for homoJP) are too much. People shit on holoAss but that project only got a year before Cover decided to cut it off.
The only reason they are still here is because those upper management he hated so much didn't want to just fire them.

>>116116455
They are still here though. Wasn't nerissa sacrifice not enough for you?

>>116117359
Looks like they are just in their living death state judging by what Altare said to me
> Wasn't nerissa sacrifice not enough for you?
It's suck, but it's somewhat of a blessing in disguise that a whore revealed herself. That's why you should pick your oshi carefully

>>116116430
that's modern jp entertainment industry for you.
they don't know what they're doing, they lose their character.
look at the gaming industry. they're going for woke and "modern" audiences, instead.
not mentioning 'holoearth', the grand metaverse project we're sure that it would fail.

>>116116440
The funny part is how he has 25% female viewers and he's still bitching. Imagine being the 25% and he's just seething you're not enough for him.

>>116116410
>future stars
are their audience seriously this out of touch still?

>>116116889
I know you are into cuck fantasies, but he's a fat unfunny chud.

>>116117454
You should look for help with your mental health anon.
There are even some mental health resorts that help you to escape the red/black pill trap and become a normal person again.

>>116117763
it's true you blind faggot

>>116116410
So, he's just whining that he's a talentless faggot without creativity and he expected the company to handhold his entire career, even though none of the Hololive talents received such preferential treatment and had to work on their own?

>>116116889
lmao
Kronii only cared about Sally and Fauna.

>>116116467
male fans were mostly Vesper fans heterosexual dudes didn't watch this faggot but I guess he was raided with his audience which affected his stats or something he was like 1K on debut and got below that pretty fast we're not talking about some huge numbers here.

>>116116452
he's a honorary woman

>>116117039
all of them had female and gay homo core audience in the end even vesper

>>116116571
>I don’t watch Holostars but

this has to be a shitpost

>>116118078
And Vesper

>>116116638
he was never hololive, there was no "golden ticket" for the homos

>>116118156
It's their audience. Or rather, supporters.

>>116116410
Always good to see men fail, especially Korean men.

Don't forget that they didn't realize their audience was finite at the start and both Magni and Altare went hard on the moderation and booted/banned everyone that didn't conform to their channel's culture on debut, because random people are psychic and instantly know who you are and what you want.
>Viewer sees people getting banned and disappear from chat
>Knows Google keeps track of that stuff in the background and Google is tied to a lot of people's business stuff
>Too high risk to interact with, abandon ship
>wat duh fuh where'd my audience go

>>116118584
Getting banned from random stream chat has no effect on your account.

>>116117796
I know it feels true to YOU anon, but it is time to take a step back and look at the reality instead of the narrow fantasy world you made up.
It is hard, but I believe in you, I belive you can make it.

>>116118604
You have to understand that a lot of older users are still reeling from when Markiplier did his emote stream, Google saw the use of a long line of emotes as spam and deleted a lot of people's Google accounts as spam.
>That was a while ago
Nothing happens in a bubble. Google established the precedent that what you say or do can be actioned upon by their AI bot.
Of course it flows both ways, if your channel bans half the people that interact with it the algo is probably not going to feed you more victims.
Nothing happens in a bubble.

>>116118623
nta but you're a fucking retard if you're acting like japan as a whole isn't pivoting to chase the mythical "modern audience"

There's a lot of whining about inspiration in there.
This is not a winner mindset. This is not a "will make it as a vtuber in a top2 vtubing corporation" mindset. Dude needs to get his head in the game and find some fucking ambition. This shit reads pathetic.

lmao, this faggot is still salty that Magni and Vesper were more popular than him, still are, and that all of the stars' momentum died when they left. The fact he's still doing the twink voice proves that he - and by extension, Cover- has no idea what the fanbase wants and was expecting the status of "Male, English Sora" to be just handed to him. But because he is a talentless hack, all he can do is seethe and bite the hand that has gone out of its way to feed him more than he produces. I previously didn't mind him, but his arrogant entitlement and constant womanish pissy fits really makes me glad I didn't put in the effort to watch or support him.

No male who is into and respects the idol culture would join hololive in the first place.

Male vtubing lmao

>>116118785
>nta
I now it can be embarassing, but there is no reason to start lying anon.

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I stopped watching homos when those two left. They were fucking great.

>>116117359
Her sacrifice won't do shit to save these subhumans.

>>116116410
I was going to say that he can suck my nuts, but he's such a huge faggot that I'm afraid he might actually do it

>>116116467
Not even the jp homos are willing to do fanservice for the girls. There was a clip about it from the suisei radio show, one was willing but the others of his gen were against it.

The homos don't want to do what attracts females and then be suprised they are stuck with the few males they get

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They did get their "golden tickets", just not as much as Hololive members from later generations did. Even after their honeymoon, the more popular homoENs were still running streams with way higher numbers than most vtubers including remarkable ones.
It was their own faults (menhera episodes, lack of professionalism, stupidity, you name it) that they failed to keep that momentum going

I would have kept watching Holostars if they did edutainment stuff. Sadly Shinri's edutainment doesn't suffice

>>116116410
And cover shouldnt feel wrong by this faggot? Hes the singer of his first gen and has still today only released one cover at debut that he was FORCED to create. What effort have we seen him put into his streams and content creation?

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>>116119675
Axel is the HQ singer and he has made a shit tone of covers including 4 very large cross branch covers including this one from last week with Altare in it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVc8OHeq6Fs

They could have had an advantage over Luxiem by not collabing with any girls. The boys over there always lost hundreds if not over a thousand viewers whenever a girl was attentionwhoring in their chats. Ugly model debuff aside, they could have captured those fans just fine if they focused on themselves since they were funny together. But their male audience kept bringing up the holo girls so that's probably why they thought they needed to collab with them to impress their male fans.

>>116119947
Altare has been breaking out into song constantly since day 1. Why not put more effort into his content and become big to the point they cant be ignored? He can only try if hes given a massive platform of 10000 live viewers every stream?

>>116120029
The stars always fall into the trap these days of
>girl interaction? this is my big break more eyes on me!
>big collab numbers!
and then they retain none of it and actually lose more of the female unicorns

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>>116120116
Back in cbdct thoughts!

>>116120531
what a joke that thread is. as if theres a single cute boy even posted there

i'm tired of pretending that vesper and kronii weren't funny

>>116120687
it was only funny because male and female collabs were so forbidden and taboo. and when i say female collabs i dont mean shitty holos nobody cares about like kobo or ollie and amelia collabing with boys im talking the ones that have more to lose.

>>116120875
I think you just a retard

>>116120687
Okay i will give you that

>>116116410
They call him a sexpest but never a liar

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ok

>>116116410
This nigger never gave a FUCK about his JP senpais, none of starsEN did. That was my biggest pet peeve back when I watched them. This is just performative bullshit, he never cared and never made any effort to integrate with them.

>>116126522
His JP senpais never gave a fuck about the JP senpais either.

>>116116410
Seems like a good time for Yagoo to finally fix his mistake of ever allowing these shitters in the company and to close the branch for good.

Boohoo you blue haired faggot, Yagoo gave you all infinitely more than any of you deserved. We're coming up on five years of Stars EN, that's five years of you worthless shitters sitting on your asses, failing to attract kind of an audience while leeching off the actual talents. You're like Africans being given constant handouts by suicidally empathetic whites even though you prove time and time you're too retarded to make anything of it. Graduate already you ungrateful parasite.

>>116116440
Where do you even get that from the 75% female audience stuff? That's something STAFF told him, not something he said he wanted. He only complained that they told him to prepare for one scenario then was thrown into another.

>>116116455
There's a chance you'll get your wish after the concert.

>>116116625
>What woman would watch a loser moid who's too ugly to show his face and only joined to sex pest female vtubers?
A lot of men in agencies do variable levels of successful. Its only Holostars that tends to have these discussions.

>>116116626
>He's just upset because Omega isn't around to spoil him and DA BOIZ anymore.
From what I heard Omega was also a big reason for why Magni and Vesper ended up quitting.

>>116116649
>It's not like you can Vtube your way into a manager position or anything.
If you prove yourself good at managing yourself, helping out teammates, or stand out with a particular skill like mixing or video editing then maybe I guess.
>>116116932
I think that was just him indirectly asking why shouldn't he quit.
>>116117953
He might not have the greatest work ethic but he's genuinely musically talented.
>>116118705
>You have to understand that a lot of older users are still reeling from when Markiplier did his emote stream, Google saw the use of a long line of emotes as spam and deleted a lot of people's Google accounts as spam.
What in the actual fuck? Holy shit
>>116118932
>he's still doing the twink voice
Magni met him IRL and claimed that is his actual voice and genuinely talks like that. I caught one of his RM streams and sure enough he talked almost exactly the same.
>>116119643
>Shinri's edutainment
That sounds interesting.
>>116120552
People are afraid of posting their oshis there out of fear they'd get accused of self posting. Doesn't seem to happen anymore.
>>116126522
>never gave a FUCK about his JP senpais
He did a collab with Miyabi that was really cute and funny, and also seemed to hold a lot of admiration towards Miyabi. I agree the branches could have worked together more.

Its incredible how these "losers" make 4chin seeth so hard, like if these fuckers are half of the things you people say then what does that make (you) when the stars members "cuck" you and take away your beloved mid foid?

Shit or get off the pot. Holy shit. Fucking leave and get the bag you think you deserve off on your own. Imagine ghosting your only remaining Gen Mate and Management and still keeping your job but that’s somehow being oppressed.

>75% male audience
Are they all gay? wtf

Bro. Nobody cares.

>>116116571
>I don’t watch Holostars but
you are the perfect holostars fan

>>116128229
>Imagine ghosting your only remaining Gen Mate and Management and still keeping your job but that’s somehow being oppressed.
Management lets him and Axel get away with a lot of stuff due to contrition because of how much they made the two talents suffer during the first year of HQ. Supposedly shit was utterly awful backstage.

>>116128601
Can’t be that awful to have their numbers and still give up a cut of whatever their earnings are and still sit here bitching about it. I understand Axel bearing with it because he wants to stay in Japan instead of going home to Australia. Everytime a new clip that gains any traction when it comes to Altare it’s him being a bitch. Also they got fast tracked perms that Gura couldn’t even get. Miss me with that muh suffering shit.

I liked Holostars EN for the first year but it was pretty much a dead end after magni and vesper left. I think Altare would be right to leave if he's going to whinge and moan on stream about how it's not ideal. I would say that cover is probably hoping they will leave on their own for Japanese business reasons, but I don't think cover has any hopes or expectations at all about them anymore. They're just there, talents with some staff to support them, they're on the books same as dozens of other dead end projects nobody will pull the plug on.

>>116128527
kek

>>116116571
>a lot of y’all would defend shitty CEO’s if it means fucking up the career of someone you don’t like.
A swift and painful death to all of my enemies, no matter what the means.

>>116116440
They joined expecting to have the same kind of audience as the nijihomos but the nijisisters stayed loyal

>>116116571
>y'all
Please start off with that.

>>116116410
ok that's cool
but why does he talk like he's permanently stuck in ASMR settings?

>>116116571
>I feel bad for him. I don’t watch Holostars but it sucks having to find out your boss and pretty much the company don’t give a fuck about you and have no prospects for your future while simultaneously wanting you to stay.
Anon that is too optimistic since management only wants Holostars EN to stay until their concert and than they will likely start encouraging them to leave. Some of the talents will stay after that because Holostars is a well known brand name but there are indications that in 2027 they will start to receive the Holostars JP banishment room treatment. While I don't think Yagoo will actually shut them down after the concert it does sound like they are getting the bare minimum from management.

>>116128601
>Management lets him and Axel get away with a lot of stuff due to contrition because of how much they made the two talents suffer during the first year of HQ. Supposedly shit was utterly awful backstage.
Vesper and Magni were fired after trying to convince management to give Kronii a model redesign. Yagoo did more damage to Tempus than unicorns ever did (though it was more from corporate incompetence than malice). Of course that lowered morale for Altare and Axel since half their gen was fired before their first anniversary. Council was noticeably demoralized after Sana's graduation and that was from a single graduation. Maybe Yagoo did feel a little guilty for how badly he handled the disputes with Tempus since he did give them the last EN concert...

>>116116467
Funny enough this has always been the problem with holostars even before EN they exist in this weird middle ground where they dont appeal to dudes because how how they act sometimes but also dont appeal to women because of how they act sometimes. It makes no one happy.

why is outfitnigger in every thread

Kinda sucks that Altare seems like he wanted to stand on his own two legs and genuinely grow the brand instead of whatever the fuck Axel and Jurard are doing.

>>116116410
>why am I not being given money despite failing at my job

Their inability to get female fans to watch is their own fault, they wouldn't have had to pivot if they could do that.

>>116132228
he loves holostars and sana for some reason

>>116132228
every shitposter is in every thread these days
it's pretty easy when the board is this slow

>>116128160
>Magni met him IRL and claimed that is his actual voice and genuinely talks like that. I caught one of his RM streams and sure enough he talked almost exactly the same.
I'm pretty sure it was an OLD (back when I still watched stars) story. It was 1 of 2 things I think, either he has a speech impediment and he trained himself to talk how he does to get over it, or he had anger issues and he trained himself to talk that way to get over it. Pretty sure it was something like that.
tl;dr he practiced enough when he was younger that it became his natural speaking voice.

>>116116467
>homos were basically burning money trying to attract females
FALSE
They did all they could to not attract females, insta-collabs with Hololive, Alatare talking about just staying in a relationship just because the girl's dad made awesome BBQ and she was annoying, Axel Drawing a penis in a game and showing it to all the girls saying how ''big it is''
NO FUCKING HOLOSTARS CARED ABOUT THE FUCKING JOB, THEY JOINED TO SEXPEST, so Altare can fucking cry all he wants but he ain't rewritting history, if they wanted to attract females then BY ALL MEANS, they know Holo collabs are a no go or talking about relationships.

>>116133678
absolutely mindbroken

>>116133695
He's really mad that they didn't pander to his fujoshi desires.

>>116128218
Male have a distinct dislike of a LOSER, a beta male that complains "oh woo I'm suffering" is an embarrassment to any male from any walk of life. Nobody want to hear a pathetic loser whine, do your job or just quit, you don't have a privilege of a woman.

>>116120029
they will hate you for telling the truth, but see how FSP grew by staying a boys only club. The only one that could get away with female collabs without it damaging them too much were Vesper and Roberu, and Vesper fell off because of his unstable behavior.

>>116134045
He whines more than kiara at this point.

>>116116410
I haven't forgot about watson karaoke incident. Banish him

>>116116467
Homo en would love to fuck fan and coworker if they could. Nijien homo did it. By a lot

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For someone you hate , you sure keep up with everything they do

>>116134045
You sound very beta gossiping about Nerissa though

>>116133678
>they know Holo collabs are a no go
Why? The niji guys collabed with women all the time and still had a bunch of crazy yumes

>>116116544
You mean Omega, Yagoo never had that aim, though he did seem fixated at throwing them at female fans

>>116116547
IMO their departure (thanks Omega) was a nasty blow to Stars as a whole.

But on the greater note, they kinda half ass things with the girls, but at this point they're like Bandai, big enough a name to negate their stupidity

>>116134478
Those women receive death threat and stalker more often than holo

>>116119565
That's not true. A lot of them did do fanservice, Oga and Shien were particularly blatant about it. Their VPs were also tailored to women unlike EN who keep pushing out muh lore VPs.

The thing from Suisei's radio was about wanting to do idol work, not fanservice.

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>>116135560
You need to do fan service or you are dead in the bizz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHkmoGMDeno
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHkmoGMDeno
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHkmoGMDeno

Debuting with magi and vesper was a death sentence because they didn't play ball and did their own shit

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>he loves holostars and sana for some reason
The model redesign fights were the worst contract disputes in the history of Hololive and unironically did cause the first 3 "graduations" in the EN branch. Sana quit because management wouldn't give her a new design but everything about that situation with Vesper and Magni indicates that management actually did fire them. Anons call me outfitschizo when Cover has announced that half of Hololive will be receiving visual updates.

>>116134078
The early EN gens had the worst experiences with management. Cover not only fired half of a Tempus gen but they also lied to fans about how they wanted to leave that is even more messed up than what they did to Sana.