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>>116126182>>116126320THEY ARE MAKING FUN OF UNIKEKS WHO THINKS THEY ARE EVER LEAVING LMAO >free money from your whores>free clout from your whores>free pussy from your whoreyeah I'm thinkingTOTAL HOMO LIFE
>>116126458His mistake was hiring the homos in the first place, not not supporting them or, more accurately for the people complaining, not treating them like the they're more important than the girls. The people shitting on him would want nothing less than the homos being on literally ANYTHING holo, be it fes, event streams, tournaments and whatnot. They don't want the "bare minimum", they don't want the homos to have a "chance", they want what nijisanji is and anything less than that is heresy in their eyes so yes, they are 1000% criticizing Yagoo for all the wrong reasons especially when they literally mocked anyone complaining about the lack of new holoEN gens back in late 2022/early 2023 so they can get fucked together with their precious failures.
Who should I watch now? Who is safe?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Holostars/comments/1xrydin/altares_viewer_analytics_gender_only/
>>116126420Jurard has basically openly asked for a collab now on-stream.If Nerissa actually believes in what she's doing, she'll collab with him. If she was just having a woman moment and is already reconsidering it, she won't. She probably should collab, going this far and then chickening out right at the last moment is pussy shit. Commit to something for once. Collab with Jurard, have that fucking idiot talk to you live unfiltered for a few hours in front of all your fans, do it or no balls. Let him talk about his diseased nutsack and plan hypothetical dates with you. Have him joke about your nipples and having children with you like he does Ollie.
>>116126580burntpeanut
>>116126580Watch Kaela.
>>116126580IRyS
>>116126580No one because you're brown and should fuck off.
>>116126592Why collab when she can fuck him behind the scene
>>116126566>Hires Myth with no plan, no support, no access to resources>abandons them for a year because "let's try things and see what happens">Time for a new gen! They're cut off from Japan, so let's try rebranding them as content creators! Westerners probably don't like the icky idol stuff that's our whole brand, let's try things and see what happens!>Let's replace the next generation with homos! With no plan or support! Maybe the girls will save them? Let's try things and see what happens!I genuinely want to punch him in the face
>>116126580https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9A1-YeiAlw
>>116126580Pick a barbie
>>116126479>>116126511horsecock
>>116126712The retarded ideas for EN mainly stem from EN management with him greenlighting any dumb shit he sees.
>>116126712While he's 100% at fault since he's the fucking CEO of the company I wonder how much input he had on the whole thing with holoEN and homoEN. It wouldn't surprise me if the only thing he was responsible of was giving ometroon the green light to move forward with his "plan" without completely knowing the damage that it would cause to the highly profitable EN branch.
>>116126479ew
>>116126580
>>116126580Phase Connect, Kanna, Yuy, Shondo, Nina, EN5
>>116126818mixer party girl
>>116126799The thing about Yagoo is that it's great that he's the CEO because only god knows what retarded alternative awaits when he retires but the problem is the other parts of management which constantly pushes retarded ideas like the "debut on the line" idea for mekPark and early DEV_IS knowing full well that even if such projects flop there will be holos to save them
>>116126712>>116126780Omega was a weirdo, a westerner who thought that idol gender relations stuff was problematic and wouldn't be a factor in the west, and proposed close relations between hololive EN and his new project Holostars EN. Key talents (Gura etc.) wouldn't go along so they weren't able to actually merge them, but he still put a bunch of smoke up the board's ass about how "the west is culturally different" and it would all be OK, and tried to force them to be as close as possible (getting talents like Mori to advertise them, merging the twitters etc). It wasn't OK and almost killed off the branch and he lost his job. Shinove was blindsided by all of this and it fucked up the branch's reputation that had crossover even into JP, which is in part why he quit.Source: My vivid imagination and impeccable intuiton.
>>116126712>Westerners probably don't like the icky idol stuff that's our whole brand, let's try things and see what happens!This is true though. You refuse to watch Holofes.
>>116126799https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEKGTYJRVUM&t=2813>I [IRyS] didn't say anything to her [Raora] but inside my head I was like "Why does SHE get flowers?">Maybe he just hates us [Promise]>Maybe he forgot about us. That's even worseYou can tell by the way certain girls talk about management and even Yagoo in particular for this story. I think it's easy for newfags to not realize that not all of the gens get treated as gently and lovingly as Advent and Justice do.
>>116126580Most of us moved to Phase.
>>116126580I switched to Muyu, Rie, and Jelly a year ago
>>116126922>phasecucknet>shondo and her "cat">flesh streaming "vtubers" kanna and jeeted nijiwhore yuyNice list, faggot
>>116126968https://youtu.be/gEKGTYJRVUM?t=2813
>>116126712......blame yourself HomobeggerYour non buying and non supporting and only demanding kill your boy not Yagoo
>>116126780>>116126936Yeah this is it.It was that the Japs kind of just let EN management do what they wanted. Partially because they thought EN management understood the EN audience better (lmao) and because the couldn’t be assed to figure out what’s happening in a different language. Omega tranny and his anti-chud fujoshi management team got away with fucking up the world’s most successful EN vtubing branch in history with very little oversight.
>>116126980>>116126997sure
>>116126580If you are brown, fuck off and keep jacking off to your self insert love team fantasies.
Everyone knows your phasesluts, you dont need to keep shilling them. For all the switching to them over the years, their ccv stays pretty much the same 3view to 1k.
>>116126997kek nice joke
>>116126580Biboo, IRyS, FuwaMoco, and Kyoko. And if you’re up at Jap hours maybe Raora. That’s it. If you watch anyone else don’t be surprised when you get bricked.
>>116127032Unironically BEEG numbers for phasewhores.>>116127054Well, shilling their whores >here is the only way they will get any new viewers.
>>116127023>because the couldn’t be assed to figure out what’s happening in a different languageThis is a good point and a well documented fact.Yagoo started learning English and attending all EN meetings right after Omega got fired because he realized he had let a retard run a seriously important growth portion of the company with no oversight.
>>116127065It's funny that these old cuckposts against phase are just modern day hololive now.
>>116126997>jelly>safeRUMAO
>>116126586i wish they showed how many people participated
>>116126936Do not rewrite history.....Myth born from JP side and Coco and that a reason why Myth immediately close to Coco but Omegafaggot want to be genesis of HoloENSo... HoloMeth must die and Haachama also paid that price and criedIt's shouldn't have wall between JP and EN but OMEGAFAGGOT WANT TO WIN
>>116127105what the ESL fanfiction is this
>>116127073The problem is that Holo unironically grew too big too fast. Since it was working with what they knew, nips assumed competence on part of EN management until the Omega situation got out of hand.Shitpost all you want, but sadly, corpos are best at being static entities, you have to bring change to them kicking and screaming over a long period of time. Holo survived mostly because most of the policies didn't affect the girls, as soon as it DID start affecting them, the precarious balance was upset.
>>116127105Evidence > The first one Omegafaggot followed in Twitter is Kiryu CocoYou can check it yourselfShe created Myth with Yagoo and Omega created IRyS and Council
>You're a vsinger aren't you? so fucking sing.
>>116127115Holy newfag....I can't blame youOmegafaggot really do everything to delete this fact as much as it can do so only old fag can understand my wordBut Omegafaggat still miss something that Haaton still alive and passing down true history today
>>116126580MORI CALLIOPE
>>116126592>believes in what she’s doingMessaging someone about Naruto?You guys create this weird ass ideological motivations in your mind and then get pissy when girls don’t follow them when it was never that deep.
>>116127073The core thing that I remembered was that the girls were begging to get Yagoo involved so that they could discuss it in meetings. I forgot who brought it up in like a members or something.
>>116127130They didn’t realize there was a culture war going on where politically extreme tourists were infiltrating every EN hobby with the expressed purpose of wanting to destroy it from the inside. Omega was trying to do to EN what purple hair nom-binary radical feminists were doing to 30 different game studios. The Japs couldn’t even predict such a self-hating, destructive ideological group being a threat. But after they realized what Omega was doing they should have completely cleaned up management. They didn’t. Henma is Omega 2.0.
>>116126936Holy shit you’re still trying the fucking “Gura’s epic war against da homos” shit
>>116127182you sound like someone who read a few too many threads
we Won btw:3
>>116126580No one is safe, women will be women. But for now, if you absolutely MUST force yourself to watch hololive then I'd say stick to IRyS and biboo. Maybe try Mela, maybe Kyoko if you like her energetic attitude. That's about it for any english-speaker, everyone else is a risk or just generally mid and not worth investing time into with or without homo shit being taken into account.
>>116126580Kyoko
>>116127219>The Japs couldn’t even predict such a self-hating, destructive ideological group being a threat. But after they realized what Omega was doing they should have completely cleaned up management. They didn’t. Henma is Omega 2.0.I blame it on elevenese cultural standards regarding politics. Most non-young peeps there probably lived under the effects of the "politics is good as long as nobody complains" mentality. So, the kind of retardation that shook the west and only recently encroaches in Japan is somewhat foreign to them.It's like trying to explain to someone who doesn't really understand addictions the levels of guile, deception, deflecting, victim-blaming, etc. that an addict is willing to do to avoid responsibility while getting their next fix.
>>116127130>Since it was working with what they knew, nips assumed competence on part of EN management>competence on part of EN managementThis is the main problem to be honest. Management taking credit for stuff they had little contribution to
>>116127219It's not about gender at first but Omegafaggot want to MEMEME by created a wall between JP and EN so they can't collab easy like Coco era and it's so shit about WINWINWIN against JP side to the point that they treat JP side like competition. HoloID takes neutral stance and act likes the bridge at that time with Mori and Kiara
>>116127224you must be brain dead if you believe that they didn't tried to get gura to promote en3 aka the bois, i actual believe that she is the sole reason why that omega project was killed
https://twitter.com/ceciliaimgreen/status/2119865262937968665TIME FORCE
who lostwho won
>>116127234Look at all that winning
>>116127210>Messaging someone about Naruto?Are you retarded?
>>116127224It's Donie he's both delusional and retarded
>>116127248I'd add Ina
>>116127302I only ever watched girls who like gaming, like streaming, and don’t homocollab. So I won. Obviously cuckbirds lost massively though.
>>116127231I am not just read, I am witness it
>>116127274That is a big problem in corpos. Or in any kind of organization. You have to assume that people under you are both competent and not actively malicious. Cover fucked up in that sense because, growing from what they used to be to what they became, there weren't policies in place to catch wrongdoing or someone being an active detriment to the branch before it escalated into the shitshow that was 2023 and all things related to it.
>>116127299I thought only GG sexualized Kronii
>>116127299>TIME FORCEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBNuPyjUU3oTIMELESS WONDERS
>>116127320Ina isn't around enough for her to be watched, she just shows up whenever sometimes and then leaves again. She might be "safe" but at that point you'd be following someone that is inactive most of the time. And when she does show up it's not terribly exciting either, sort of pointless to follow her.
>>116127307They hit the brakes on HoloEN when it was skyrocketing into massive popularity so they could debut back to back gens of these shitters. They took millions of dollars earned by the girls and subsidized these faggots with it for years. They forced mixed gender shit on the fans for years.And THIS is what all of that got them? Barely 3 view status? Holy shit.
>>116127377Also hordes of sisters and beggars that keep wanting to push the failures everywhere the girls are.
But at least .... with Haaton fought and Jp's pressure. Omegafaggot must step back one step and let JP collab with EN more freely because Omega faggotary actions really really sour JP audience side so much.
>>116127344
>>116127377Keep in mind that if given the chance, yagoo would absolutely do it all over again. If I told him I can make the remaining homos have at least 3k viewers every single time without fail and all he had to do was personally kill all holos himself, he would do it. People always underestimated and underplayed how much yagoo worships male vtuber cock and how much he truly wants them around. the JP homos graduating didn't change that, he would absolutely suddenly start up a whole separate branch of males not named holostars to try it all over again from zero.
>>116127401And Taranchama was born later lmaooooo
>>116127224Gura didn't actively do anything but her influence certainly did. Dimitri Jap is regarded as having saved HoloEN post Omega and he quoted Gura's CGDCT and "hololive only grows stronger" 1:1.
>>116127331if so how many EN girls talk about her after she left? the JP girls close to her still doif she was so important, why does nobody talk about her
>>116127432Because the failures are like the chinese. Sure, you have a relatively limited but very loyal base, but imagine the POTENTIAL market/audience pandering to the chinese/failures would bring.
Everyone absolving Yagoo for Omega before the homos is forgetting he spent an entire year abusing IRyS before the homos debuted
>>116127307you oshis torn hymen is all the proof i need :3
>>116127449Because Omega faggot erased all of Coco did for HololiveEN and new fans never found about this takes it as long lost history of Hololive.And your question Coco helped establishing HoloMyth and someone still contact her recent year and Takomori is closest to Coco and Haachama
>>116127224Is he entirely wrong though? If Gura collabed with a Homo I imagine the casual chumbuds would still tune in and watch. A couple thousand of them still tune in to Saba, they would probably watch anything if you slapped Gura on the screen.
>>116127429>G Groom Party
>>116127495I don’t absolve him. I put most of the blame on him. They’re his “pet project” and Homo EN wouldn’t have been approved by anyone if the CEO hadn’t personally pushed them through. Nor would they have survived the years of financial losses.
>>116127523that's weird because I've been watching since before Coco debuted and this all sounds like bullshit to my memory
>>116127495IRyS project is Omegafaggot's failure and it works so badly to the point JP must come to help
>>116126712HE ISN'T EVEN AT FAULT FOR HOMOENFUCKING OMEGAY WENT OVER BOTH SHIINOVE AND YAGOOS HEAD TO MAKE TEMPISS, OF COURSE THERE WAS NO PLANS BECAUSE TEMPOOP WAS ESSENTIALLY A FUCKING UNPLANNED PREGNANCY OF A GENKEKTARE SHOULD BE THANKFUL HE WAS KIND ENOUGH TO KEEP THEIR LEECHING ASSES AS LONG AS HE FUCKING DID TRYING TO MAKE THEM WORK EVEN THOUGH THEIR EXISTENCE DIRECTLY LEAS TO THE DEATH OF THE JP HOMOS BY DOUBLING EXPENDITURES AND HALVING GAINSFUCK THAT STUPID BLUE FAGGOT GOOK NIGGER FOR TRYING TO BLAME YAGOO WITH "WAAAH WAAAAH THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH US AFTER WE WERE DROPPED ON THEIR PORCH LIKE DOG SHIT IN A FLAMING BAG WAAAAH"WHAT'S NEXT, HE TRIES TO BLAME THEM FOR HIS FAGGOT GARAGE STUDIO GOING UNUSED AFTER HE BOUGHT IT?TAKE IT OUT ON YOUR FAGGOT SEXPEST COWORKERS YOU CUNT, THEY'RE THE REASON YOUR SHIT IS RADIOACTIVE
>>116127377well "that" was more than enough for your whores
>>116127607Are we pretending Yagoo wasn't MAGGING it up
>>116127219Worse, omegay was doing it to give himself an impressive CV and get promotions by making Luxiem 2If it was ideological you could say sure, fucking sucks, but he GENUINELY THOUGHT IT WOULD BE POPULAR
>>116127585Coco didn't talk about this in directly way but Omegay hostile action did it in plain side.
>>116126799HoloEN? A a good amount, met with them and everythingHomoEN? Quite literally nothing and was blindsided alongside management
>nerissa does asmr>schizos spam all dayyikes
>>116127524Collabing with a homo would require her to STREAM
>>116127607Who continued allowing them to waste millions of dollars of money earned by the girls? Who continued to allow the fused EN Twitter page to focus only on the homos while taking days to tweet about major EN girls events and milestones? Who has full control of the company and could have hard banned them from collabing with EN members and constantly causing a culture war that ruined the EN box?Oh that’s right. Fucking Yagoo the CEO of Cover corp.
Imagine defending yagoo in this day and age when he's been proven to be a fucking liar and an active detriment to literally everyone, including the top girls, because he sucks management cock and doesn't care about the girls themselves. His kind old man act is bullshit, it's a generic japanese tactic to mask your actual actions.
>>116127297Learn English properly then reply to me you dumb cunt ESL
>>116127621The guy wasn't just gonna shut the whole thing down after it's already happenedTried to make it work and then fagni and vespiss turned around and stabbed him in the back with fagni's diva crashout demanding infinite money and resources saying he was the reason stars was becoming popular so he deserved treatment as good as Pekora and Miko
>>116127657Welcome to why being a nice person runs counter AND parallel to profitability If he was a ruthless CEO that nipped underperforming shit in the bud, there would be no homos but also the workplace would he more unpleasant and competitive and backstab filled like nijisanjiHate the people who abandoned the orphan that turned into a druggie, not the orphanage
>>116127585I can say Coco is very mature in this situation and doesn't anything to putting more fuel so very rare notice about Omegay behavior until.....Huh........well.....What done is done...and Omega is no more ....
>>116127686>The guy wasn't just gonna shut the whole thing down after it's already happenedYou might not know about this but Project Hope was supposed to have 2 people and an entire debut project that got scrappedIf Yagoo wanted to scrap it, he could have. It's plain wrong to imply he couldn't have stopped HomoEN
>>116127713There’s a middle ground behind legitimate black company and “lets give millions of dollars to the sexpests turning off our core fan base so they can waste it and whine like a bitch every day like Altare”.
>>116127434
>>116127735GUESS WHO WAS IN CHARGE OF PROJECT HOPETHAT'S RIGHTFUCKING OMEGAY
>>116127524This didn't even work with the WOMENGura's viewers were Gura's only
>>116127757Yes, and Yagoo saw what he did with Project Hope and let him do HomoEN. You can't pretend Yagoo had no idea what was going on unless you're saying he's okay with people abusing his talents
>>116127737Sure, but cover is a very coddling company and always has beenThis is a really good thing for the girls, but unfortunately we had the cancer that is homoen stapled to it by omegay
They were doing very wild things back then. Irys came out of the gate with a whole album.Tempus had a whole manga. https://tempus.hololivepro.com/starsen/
>>116127735Nigger did you actually fell for the Project Despair and Kuzu Lilianne shit?
Is this guy the cdawgVA of hololive?
>>116127657Do you ever consider Homofan's behavior about not buying anything and only demanding make HomostarEN become to this hopeless state?>Entertainment never freeEven Birgit still membership CC so I give him some respect
>>116127771He didn't, that's the whole fucking pointHe wasn't hands on with directly running EN, he only saw what middle management and EN management wanted him to see because it wasn't his responsibility or workAfter omega pulled his bullshit, Yagoo MADE it his work and then later directly stepped in and took the reigns completelyYou're an idiot if you think it's normal for a ceo to be that hands on
>>116127784You can't possibly compare this guy to goatfucker
Why haven't you all published this bold shit on X, afraid you'll get sued?
>>116126479Why did Kronii drop Mori anyway?
why does da wose have a goodbye stream coming up?
>>116127811This is the brownest post of the entire thread.
>>116127784>Trevor Lawrence X NerissaGo Texans
just watch the product and shut the fuck up honestly, if they homo collab dont watch the collab, jesus christ all you people do is whine
>>116127798......He comes too late for 1-2 years...
>>116127839Shut up Jurard
>>116127811Containment breaking is bad
>>116127825Yep, you're scared you'll get suedAnd you had the time to do this back in 2023 when suspicion towards homos and management was at all time highsIt's never too late to do it retard. Either put up or shut up with your bold claims. Don't worry, I'm sure you'll have much more support on your side!
>>116127796>Even Birgit still membership CC so I give him some respectHe isn’t membered and never posted reliable proof that he even had an active membership. Several Otomos /here/ and over there livepost CC’s membership streams with false information to trip him up. He’s gotten caught multiple times repeating these lies.
>>116127867Assuming he's an actual whistleblower/former Cover insider/shareholder I'd like to see him at least try.
> Yagoo takes charge Hololive nowTake this as Hololive's last hopeAnd this time, I will support him because it's part of Kanataso's final wish.
>>116127798the talents are the entire business...
>>116127784>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDawgVA>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Mercer_filmographywtf are you doing
>>116127880Ahhhhhhh ok got it so he even not a membership but want CC graduation to be indy again?? Wtfffff
>>116127951Poisoning the well
>>116127944What if that talent never profitable and become dangerous to others business?
The biggest winner of this fiasco is actually Parrot
>>116127978all the cucks cuckposting are now cumming non stop
>>116127951NTA but I unironically do not see the difference
>>116127839That's what I do, personallyHOWEVER the homos should still get shuttered because they're pathetic, obnoxious, and an overall drain on morale, fans, etc.
>>116128008the trash taste guy did some yaoi bait back then, got famous because of a bunch of fujoshi kids and then proceeded to get nepo jobs to sexpest and get pussiesthe other guy is a normal VA
>>116128008Kinda like seiyuu Vs vtuber voicing random shit
>>116128026Does being a "normal VA", I disagree anyone outside of Japan is a normal VA but whatever, make him better than TT?
I still don't understand why Cover hired majority SEA males instead of white British, American or Canadian males.
>>116127978KFP is winning so much bros
>>116127880>He isn’t memberedWe saw his account before he got bonked, he was membered.
>>116128053it means he works and a job....also you can see through his filmography that he is talented and got celeb status because of that the TT guy is just a shitter e-celeb cuck
>>116128081So....Birgit actually membership CC ?
>>116127798so Yagoo should be kicked out, because he’s a shit CEO who doesn’t even know what the fuck is going on in his own company
>>116128096idk if he still is, we haven't found his new account
>>116128070it's mostly SEA males that would want to join a womans market
>>116128081>>116128096he is not a member he was but he deleted everythingalso he dont even watch ccwhy the fuck would he be a member cc schizos dont watch cc
>>116128103Anon, micromanagers are literally retard CEOs.
>>116128070Most male vtubers are sea or latam, white guys stay as fleshies if they have any talent.
>>116128103..............Phasecuck... If you are real Hololive or Homostar fag....you will never ask that STUPID IDIOT question....Stop larping as fan and shut the fuck up
>>116128103Okay so you're a retard who both doesn't work or know what a CEO is or what the word means, got it
>>116128070They joined Luxiem and did arguably worse on the long run
>>116128138You're likely talking to a former shareholder with inside info who knows what went on around 2021-23. These people have the power to destroy Hololive but they're too pussy to carry out bombshells.
>>116128070I think that other agency has some white dudes in it, it doesn't change anything. Male vtubers are not in demand regardless of race. FSP, was it?i think niji also has some white dudes there maybe idk. It doesn't change anything.
why did all of EN stop streaming
[Sad News]Phase is winning and Hololive English is more cucked than ever…
Sora never gets invited to the OGs concerts
>>116128122>>116128140There is definitely some nuance here. Yagoo doesn't need to micromanage the SWEs working on Holodori. But he DOES need to have his ear to the ground with respect to the girls and he is doing so now because he finally realized they are the most important asset in his company. Not doing so earlier is exactly how we got into this situationClaiming he shouldn't is saying he's a retarded CEO now, but he wasn't in 2022
>>116128187
>>116128070who else would work for less than minimum wage?
>>116126818Saiken has sex with this
I just realized Mira will fight Kuzuha 1-on-1 once she debuts because they share the same birthday
>>116127065Peo AND Rie? Flayon sure is lucky
>>116127978I actually had forgotten about that guy, does he still try to make content from the corpse of this board?
WHEN HOLODORI DIESWHEN HOLODORI DIESWE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTYWE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTYWE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTYYYYYYYYYYYWHEN HOLODORI DIES
lolhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/wJ-0AtStMB0
>>116128207Problem is, EN management was pretty much three degrees removed from yagoo It would have to go from omegay's cabal, to JP middle management, to JP upper management, and then to yagooAnd JP management only ever heard what he wanted them to hear because he was the head of EN, so no shit the boss man isn't gonna hear about the bullshit you're doing when you're not telling himIt took the talents revolting and getting him kicked out for jp management and yagoo to learn about it and they were GENUINELY HORRIFIED because he broke basically every piece of japanese business etiquette alongside everything else
>>116127307Gradúate everyone below Roberu
>>116128303is Rider still alive?
The thing is if the holostar was a white dude, I wouldn't feel that bad or disgusted if any of these HoloEN interacted with them. Like I unironically wouldn't be mad if it was Bettel instead of Jutard, Octardio or Flayjeet
>>116128320I wonder if, besides other things, that is the reason why they merged everything back to one branch.
>>116128338Rider has been running around replying to people talking about Altare's crashout, so yes
>>116128081We never saw Birgit’s accounts, only Kraya and Roli. In all likelihood Birgit is one of the liggers who arrived in /grün/ around May-June 2025. They started shitting on Otomos almost instantly, claiming to be Beans, going on about she was was so much better “before” and tried turning the thread into a shared Soya-CC general under the idea that the thread needed activity during the “Japan arc” (Nevermind the fact that this board was moving at a snail’s pace post-hack). They wanted something similar to /uuu/ or what Teamates/Doobmates have. That’s why the merch he posts is the 1st anniversary set but he suspiciously has nothing from the 1st birthday.
pls considerlearn to drop hateinvest in a smilelove will comemaybe you will like it
>makes thedenmax8884 mad
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>>116127978Are his numbers growing though?
>>116128343White dudes don't really beg it seems, not very much anyway.Who's white in Holostars? Ruze and Bettel, and Shinri, right? don't really engage with it that often. Just the barbie watchalongs that I remember
with this shitty stream lineup today holo deserves every bad thing that has been happening to it
>>116128195it is that time of year again
>>116128320> Graduation rush 2025And when Yagoo noticed it's too late...
>>116128297https://files.catbox.moe/vfdly4.webmdon't forget lia too
>>116128320The buck has to stop somewhere, and in business, that's senior leadership. Yagoo is responsible for his business, he can't just say there was a rogue director and all of his management helped shelter that director and let him ruin the business. If Cover had IPO'd back then, he would have been torn to shreds by investors if he tried that kind of excuse.
> All evils end with herRemember this
>>116128320>>116128387its funny how the girls refuse to acknowledge that they have direct access to yagoo at any point in time they are truly brainwashed by managers
>>116128410>If Cover had IPO'd back then, he would have been torn to shreds by investors if he tried that kind of excuse.This actually happened. HoloEarth.
>>116128431who?
I'm glad anons finally realized that yagoo is a fucking idiot. The brains behind hololive are sora and a chan. He got lucky with Miko.
>>116128320he pushed for homos like yagoo and a-chan asked
>>116128410See >>116127340, Cover, being a japanese company with japanese mentality, couldn't adapt well to the sudden growth that Hololive experienced. Sure, Hololive endured, but as a company, Cover was caught flatfooted. Sadly, that success meant they thought they could leave EN to that team while they figured out how to cope with the growth.Is it responsibility of Yagoo (as the CEO)? Yeah. Does that mean he should be fired? If you tell me how any other elevenese CEO could've prevented that shit, sure.
>>116128444The unknown DivaThe pillar of Hololive's kindnessAnd "Who won in the end "
>>116128464I didn't say he should be fired, I only joined the conversation when people said CEOs should not be micromanaging the girls
>>116128445>The brains behind hololive are kiara and jap. He got lucky with GuraFTFY
>>116128464Yagoo is in good side don't try to post anything funny.
one of gg's fav clips
Qrd?
>>116128513Is he? Because it really looks like he has repeatedly tried to trade hololive's success for holostars.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/C_i7SwqfjKw
>>116128544Yagoo really is a good sideAnd I say this as Heimong
>>116128205shiori has a better chance of getting invited than her
>>116128410Except the buck stopped at omegay, because omegay was the one responsible for reporting things to the higher ups and he didn't because he was a sniveling little weasel going behind everyone's back to make a secret project (luxiem 2) to get recognition and it blew up in his face because holos went behind HIS back to complain and then management started snooping more after he released homoen and they found the absolute bullshit he was pulling
>>116128538KEK
>>116128544if he really was trying to do that things would look like njisanji, you would have had mixed gens debuting in every branch
>>116128539donie was being a fag
>>116128539sisters are mad
>>116128609You won't win that argument because he thinks that CEOs magically have to know everything int heir corpos. Which, true, if it was a corpo with a long-standing history and proper checks, that could be a reasonable expectation.
>>116128346Well yeah, unified structure works better for that than two autonomous satellite managementsI mean, ID didn't even HAVE a management for like two years and they couldn't find anyone so putting everyone in the same bowl fixes the issue
>>116128609Are you blaming Omega for Armis as well?
>>116128387after that disastrous 2025 any competent company would've sacked yagoo's ass
>>116128621Is he getting dogpiled?
>>116128650I said at the time I thought he should take responsibility and resign
>>116128609most of this is just headcanon btw
Did she find a new corpo?
>>116128356There was at least three bean posters in /grun/
Essie live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFG05w897Po
>>116128632Yagoo evidently thinks I'm right because now he's directly involved with the girls. Sis at least try to keep up
so where's EN5?
Everything happened in 2026 still according Kanataso's final wishAt least in JP sideYou just wait and pray
>>116128672She's going an a Japan trip I think
>>116128666All confirmed by holos talking about omegay and corroborated by the vshojo employee that was ex-cover and went out of his way to say not only was he NOT omegay, but was in charge of REMOVING him
>>116128539guess its this
>>116128445>A-chanYeah nigger let's do the Homotori dance and push our kohais to ship with Homos and do a Homo debut watchalong and join Pizzafag's gang while not even a talent
>>116128636You can take THAT up with Dmitri "cgdct" Jap, except nobody eanrs to blame him because they pin Advents success on him
>>116128693never happening. cover is trying to make money so it makes more sense to debut a new JP gen every year
>>116128662Without Yagoo takes charge means Kanata's final wish can't accomplish anymoreYagoo must stay
>>116128711based chumbies
>>116128672EN5
>>116128621
>>116128729but it's so grim, anon
>>116128740Nijisanji probably has the niggerest non-compete ever just to prevent another Luna
"Why do people find Chumbuds/Kaniki annoying?"
>>116128693genuinely what is the point of a new EN gen when you can just debut infinity JP gens that make more money, just throw a kyoko or two in each gen to satisfy the EOP faggots
>>116128356>We never saw Birgit’s accountswe did tho
>>116128691Yeah, but that is still not something a corpo SHOULD be doing. Yagoo should have a level of competent managers below him, and competent talent managers below them to actually help the girls directly.Again, this is just more of how Cover is still sturggling to cope with the growth. Also, I am talking about the corpo side. From the talent side, obviously, that the CEO actually listens to their worries regarding Holo is pretty much the best thing that could happen.
>>116128725I've said before that I think he knew exactly what the fans wanted when he was put in power to fix the branch>holofans wanted CGDCT>homofans wanted drama and unicorn seetheso he hired Advent and Armis.It's still Yagoo's fault because he told Jap to save the homos instead of cutting them right there to prevent further damage to hololive
>>116128672She's just being dramatic. She's going for 2 weeks.
>>116128711>>116128539wait do grems think gigi's 50k was real?
>>116128764there isn't one. they folded EN and ID into the main branch because JP is the only thing that actually matters
Kek
>>116128445>a-chanso true!
>>116128769Separating talent management from people management is important. He should not be involved with people managing the girls. He must be involved with talent managing them
>>116128732sex
>>116128746KEK
>>116128746AAAIIIEEEEEEE
>>116128674But only one of you was around in 2024
>>116128746
>>116128187Everytime I come across this clip im reminded of it's sequel in Minecraft, that for some reason is never on any autofister compilation or uploaded on its own.https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=1383&v=YupD5_41bOA
>>116128768So.....Birgit is/was membership CC now or before???This actually confuse me now ...
>>116128775holokeks are so gullible
>>116128808>>116128645
>>116128539she yuribaits hard
You know seeing all the Autofister spam made me realise how drastically their dynamics changed after the end of 2024 where they kinda did the "annoying but like each other" dynamics only to abandon it for the current "two dumbass" schtick they have for now. They probably know how crazy the Autofister shit was on early 2025 and just tone it down, and seeing how they've become comfortable with other members tried new combinations with them
>>116128808That one went above shippers' heads because of Gigi's half jokey tone
>>116128711Damn, twitter really doesn't like Gigi, that's sad.
>>116128756>kamihand>EN JP kino kusogame collabit doesn't get much better than that
>>116128844They give me OkaKoro in the past
>>116128838Really? Sexpesting is not yuribaiting btw, it's mostly done to comedic effect. Or else Laplus will be seen as the yuri lord heeself. And within the 2 weeks of her streams, she have only yuribaited a small amount mostly in terms of "I'm gonna feed you stuff and hanging out with you" with regards to Mori Calliope
>>116128768Lmao he used to brag about how he would never stoop to Kraya’s level. Getting shit on here daily must have really mindbroken him.
>>116128768
>>116128808its not the same, this one is a deliberate jokegigi even said something like "get ready for cringe" but it was cropped from this compilation
>>116128854the half jokey only makes it stronger because it means gigi remembers and treasure that moment in her heart usually is not clipped because clippers dont watch streams and it got lost on discord messages
>>116128866Very Asian style... Is she overseas Chinese?
>>116128875if a girl sexpests a girl and it's not real (comedic effect) then it's yuribaiting
>>116128768>>116128888Why hasn't Ceci banned him yet?
>>116128876we love birgit here though
>>116128912why ban the truth?
>>116128888This nigga is dedicated. Does she ever actually read him?
>>116128784Thing is, in an ideal world, as the CEO, he should be focusing on Cover first and foremost, while the talent managers would actively consult and assist the girls.That doesn't happen here because the rapid growth of Holo came out of nowhere to Cover, which was a slow japanese company, and also because Omegalul and his posse pretty much soured every kind of positive relation between talent and management, which a few exceptions not being the rule.
Which Holos are good right now? I haven't watched since Gura graduated.
>>116128912Free money
>>116128923Shouldn't you be spamming /lll/?
>>116128888@Sandronefan_1 is his new account name btw
>>116128942I don't know what that is
>>116128904or she could just be flirting, like frfr
>>116128912that's gigi's chat
>>116128951she's straight like 99% of women
>>116128939for me it's Kiara
young gen Z and gen A think vtubers are diddy blud, this stuff is a passing fad over a long time horizon
>>116128912Fast chat + grey probably. However it’s only a matter of time until it does happen. Kraya admitted to doing this for weeks before getting banned, but Birgit will just pop up with another burner in no time.
>>116128974You need to be 18 or older to post here
>>116128844They have collabed 61 times in 2026 and that's with Ceci out of comission in June, July and August, I think we're losing the proportions of everything.
>>116128974they will get old and grow tired of current thing and look for refuge in something even more retarded in their time
If.... Birgit actually membership CC... I can respect him as dedicated schizo At least, he know entertaining never freeTo be honest, Birgit is tolerateable if compare to Homebegger and cuckposter who even not watch Homostar stream
>>116128904Nah by default doing yuri pleasantries and gestures ("I'm gonna hangout with her, she's so fun, she's so cute I wanna kiss her") is what would I consider yuribaiting since it invites people to fantasise yuri scenarios and stuff. Sexpesting, funny or not, is just exaggerating that shit to the max for comedic value.
>>116128974>this stuff is a passing fad over a long time horizonyea just like the millennials who were so obsessed with something called "justin.tv" had it all wrong. glad we didn't listen to them!
>>116128912He is banned. When we saw his account his posts were still visible and so was his CC membership but since then his posts have disappeared from the past chats which means he got banned.
>>116128964melty
>>116128974millenials also think the same thing it's always been niche
>>116128998I've been saying this for years. The people the Advent newfags complain about? Holy shit they would cry themselves off the site if they had to deal with our old schizos ennacuck, faunaschizo, marineschizo, selenfag in his prime. Today, the "schizos" are real fans who are what we would have simply called retarded years ago.And let's not even talk about the actual JP Nijisisters, they think Phasefags are bad? The chinksisters were power gapping them in shitposting, and the JP sisters are on another level even compared to them
>>116128768>>116128888also these from a prechat which is how he was first discovered
>>116128674What a precious face
>>116129003shipfags will fantasize over everything whether you exaggerate or make the most subtle reference ever
I don't want Jurard to dump me for Millie. I might die of heartbreak.
>>116129053Marineschizo still posts here
>>116129053so true le epic oldfag, fucking homo
>>116129076He's not what he used to be. Much like gokischizo and selenfag who are also still here, but much diminished
>Nerissa: To be quite honest, i dont like talking to men hahaha, 1-one-1 especially it makes me uncomfortable.>Jurard: We ended up talking about it for a good amount of time during my first days here in Holostars. And then nothing but yapping and tea time, just telling stories about each other's lives. It was so much fun. But yeah, she's been my text buddy since debut and it's really nice.Why is she such a liar?
>>116129053Nobody is afraid of JP/Chink antis and sisters anymore. We all saw them meltdown and shut up over being called faggots during the #Overseas35p debacle.
>>116129053I still remember 1500 post schizo lol
>>116128993>Gigi collabs with Ceci in 2026: 61>Gigi collabs with Elizabeth in general: 71>Gigi collabs with Raora in general: 75
>>116129113Also one of their masters Nagi got arrested so they're cowering in fear
>>116128862blame the trannygrems they became the most annoying fans in just a year
kek that tweet about who is the worst gamer in holo really got to the EN girls
>>116128993Meh, most of it is either group collabs or you count small appearances as "collabs". Try counting 1 on 1s, I'd wager something like PekoVivi has done more
>>116129145based
>>116128862>culture warrior chud tourists>all of xitterGood one
>>116129145all I'm seeing is jokes like Bae's post
>>116129053now we have schizos who don't even watch vtubers, how is that any better?
>>116129145what tweet
>only new jp gens show any growthgrimz
>>116129167We need hate membership and SC Schizo back
>>116129181dead hobby
>mel in an official merch
>>116129181fuwamocos growth still mogs every single new jp
Since the shipfag will now be spamming for the next couple of hours, I'll start contributing to the image limit to end it earlier. Feel free to do the same.
>>116128693They're still waiting for Roca.
>>116129229Whenever the shipfags start spamming I just leave the thread.
>>116129244I usually do, but I'm extra bored tonight.
>>116129213Rushia...
>>116129229funny how you never do it when there is a cuckposting spamnoticing
why are only mori and nerissa doing the con circuit promoting this thing?
shipfags are funny because most of them are delusional and don't watch streams
>>116129244>Whenever the shipfags>fagsIt's just one person.All the images are more than one minute apart
>>116128756>Cruisin' for a bruisin', fixin' for a fistin'Kakkoii
>>116129265See >>116129255
>>116129271they're just like us frfr
>>116129267Nerissa's project Mori is the most experienced table top player
>>116129286oh really? then link your post like this one >>116129229 where you complain about cuckposters
I think we need more Pekomama here
>>116128780>Green scissorsThe fucking easter eggs
>>116129229It's actually cute pics
I need to sort my files, there's so much random shit in here.
Some of these match the situation pretty well though.
mori has a potential homocollab coming up, it's a sponsored collab of a fighting game and she was tight lipped about her partner not saying a gender
>>116129271> don't stream> screenshot from streamWhat????
>>11612916151 in total17 in 2026, exactly 1/3rd of it
Why does /#/ get so angry over ships?
I want cc do dance thishttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/Bx1TUxeaoS4
>>116129359brother has never heard of a clip
>>116129306Don't point it out.
>>116129306
uhh holobros explain?
>>116129391anon? i dont see any complaining about cuckpostersall i see is seething at ships/gigi and posts in /lig/how will you defend yourself now?
>>116129306>>116122664people complain about cuckposts all the time it's spammed way more often
>>116129306NTA but I personally find image spam far more disruptive to discussion than text spam, the image limit exists. Plus, the image spamming tends to be pre-fired to send along the 1 minute cooldowns, which is far more frequent than cuckposters who have the "decency" to only shit up the thread every few minutes
>>116129393It's a difference in quality of viewer. the first two are willing to put up with whores but the bottom viewers are not willing.
>>116129365They hate everything
>>116129425No it's just the Engine, check Mint
>>116126760>pick one of the most treacherous, volatile, undesirable group of indie whores on the planet There's a good reason CC abandoned Shondo's clique
>>116129393Mint is sex
so did we forgive Nerissa yet?
>>116129415just noticed the complainwhy do you guys talk like I'm a master mind when I just pic random ass clips and post them manually
>>116129410he only ever complains about ships though, never cuckposting see >>116129403
>>116127065oh that's nothing compared to the fact that Lia revealed she went on romantic dinner dates with Saaryon, something that usually only couples do.
>>116129450I don't mind it
>>116129403Thanks for the image contribution, anonKeep it up
>>116129393don't look at the top 2 graphs
For me it's Bakka
>>116129448Yes we have. Holos can do no wrong. 20 man gangbangs for all of them.
>>116129466thanks for admitting you're a cuckposter, keep it up
>>116129479The winner's ship
>>116129483
>>116129357>sponsered>collab>mori60/40 it’s gigi getting one more sponser stream before going china
>>116129495you're a ligger and you hate hololiveand you defend cuckpostingso yeah, chances are 99% that you're one yourself
You know, with this whole Jurard episode corresponding to Shattered Legends, I wonder if Nerissa mistakenly thought her fans would crash out about the Critical Role collab so decided to do this to 'vaccinate' the audience since it is so important and her project.
>>116129145source
>>116129528why would she think her normalfag heavy audience would care about her collabing with an eceleb what kind of retarded rrat is this
>>116129529gross, go back to spamming ccgg
>>116129521That's a lot of projection, anonAre you sure you aren't into cuckoldry yourself?
>>116129393she debuff herself with that homounity cover BRAVO Mori
thats it for todayadios
>>116129543I think some of HoloEN doesn't have a theory of mind about why their audience dislikes holostars/male vtuber collabs specifically and don't really get what the problem is.See also: Kronii back in the day who was legitimately confused."anti-unicorns" also exhibit this behavior, not understanding why a Flayon collab is disgusting but nobody crashes out about professional/producer/convention collabs.
>>116129543>her normalfag heavy audienceNormalfags aren't watching vtubers
>>116129181Looking at previous gens for EN, it looks like there's a cap that keeps lowering with new gens1.6m Myth1.25m Promise1m Advent0.7m JusticeNot including special cases like Mori, Gura, FuwamocoIt's different for JP since there's so much competition, but maybe graduates were right and Holo is stale/dead.
>>116129562yuo're the one wo hates yuri and defends cuckpostingvery weak attempt at deflecting when i posted proofmask off soon?
shipfags and cuckposters are the same peopleif they ship girls only they're shipfags but if it's a girl and a dude then they're called cuckposters
>>116129528Holy retard..... we can accept Critical Role as her dream project and professional collab.Homos is the lowest
>>116129551How about some 3am moom
>>116129528>I wonder if Nerissa mistakenly thought her fans would crash out about the Critical Role collab so decided to do this to 'vaccinate' the audience since it is so important and her project.She did. If you listened to her burger stream she equated the homos to people like Lotus Juice, whilst that is far from the same. The Lotus Juice collab and Shatter Legends is fine. Homos obviously aren't, but Nerissa will twist it to her narrative to make anyone who disagrees with her as the bad guy
>>116129528Probably more homo shit coming and she wouldnt be able to hide it anymore
>>1161296139am* But not entirely inaccurate
>>116129610Nigga I know. does SHE know? Read my posts before replying.I think there are indications Nerissa doesn't understand the objections to certain kinds of collabs (her bringing up Octavio and thinking it would be the same as any random pro male singer)
>Nerissa barging in on Mori's streamOh yeah, she's desperately trying to take cover
FUCK OFF NERISSAAAIM WATCHING MORIREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>116129583We watch
>>116129613I'm calling the cops if you post mei.jpg or mu.jpg next
>>116129591>yuo're
>>116129633>mad a homowhore is watching another homowhore ???
>>116129633why do you hate nerissa deadbeat?
>>116129365My ship > your ship
>>116129633You're only allowed to say something like this when ERB interrupts an Autofister collab.Shipfags aren't schizos btw
>>116129596holy shit...mind blownthey also love spamming pics too like that cuckposter who spams ai cuckships
>>116129642I have no idea what you're talking about
>>116129619>If you listened to her burger stream she equated the homos to people like Lotus Juice, whilst that is far from the sameShe knows the distinction. She's deliberately playing dumb. Why is she mentioning every single male except the homo at the center of the controversy if she wanted to make such a point? lol. She even included paparissa in that rant. That should tell you how bullshit it was
>>116129574That's because the unicorns who break containment to explain their complaints always do it in a way that looks bad
>>116129672how new are you if you don't know about mu and mei
>>116129267>Kaz OogodGod damn it Mori
>>116129688I just realized kek
>>116129649if pointing out a typo was the only reply you could come up with then i guess its truethanks for confirmation
>>116129596And when girls collab with other girls it's fine but when they collab with guys people freak out! What a bunch of hypocrites!
>>116129181We are all tech nerds /here/
>>116129631Is she really that retard?
>>116129677Exactly, that's what i'm saying. She knows the difference but acts like there isn't.
>>116129596although would be great to fuck both girls, shipfags dont self insert nor want a harem nor want to exist in the ship universethey are like voyeurs but they want to see two people fall in love and do all the gayshit that comes with itlike being retarded when you are with the person you love, wanting to hug and all this crapthings you experience in your normalfag life cucks wants their wife to have sex with other man while fully aware that they are watching and that they have a relationship that is being violated by a bull in that momentwhen they post nerissa and octavio, they consider nerissa their wife who is looking at them while grinding someone elses cock
why does nerissa keep interrupting mori's streams?
>>116129713Because she likes the homos and thinks everyone else should too
>>116129685I don't follow schizo lore.And I guess the shipfag ran away, as ironic as that is.
>>116129682It's impossible to explain in a public forum because tourists and holostars fans and LGBTQ flag-havers will scream at you. Talents have to intuitively understand, which is why the classic unicorn response is for 99.9% of them to silently fuck off (and famously forgive if things improve over like a year) while .1% (the autistic ones) crash out and go oshi increasingly deranged phase and indie girls
>>116129730unless you didn't use the thread between 2022 and 2024, there is no way you don't know him. sorry but that counts as a confession. do your reps!
>>116129633DO IT ANONBE MAD YOU ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO DO IT HERE
>i saw you were doing a little ASMR yesterday>yeah for all my...>i didn't watch it>that's for the better
>>116129697I didn't even read your post past the first word and used that as a means of image contribution. If that makes you feel any better.
>>116129724trying to scoop a few deadbeats to her cuck fanbase known as jailbirds
Watch Nerissa drag Mori to SALT homo collabs
>>116129624An actual homocollab would be a big step, I honestly don't think she has it in her to go that far. I'd be pretty surprised (almost kind of impressed) if she has the conviction and stomach to actually collab with Jurard on her main channel. I don't think she's intending to take it that far.
>hit him in the dickWhat?
>>116129742I was definitely around then, but if I never cared to notice them at the time, I'm not going to care enough to go and research them now.
>>116129719dude you're just adding in fantasies you can say the same thing about yurishipfagsthey are cucks that want to watch another girl take away their oshi, if anything the hetshipfags are more normalfag life since gays make up only 2% of the worldthe point is they're both annoying fags and there's a reason why people complaing about both
>>116129267they aren't the only ones doing so, Gigi was in Australia for one of them and Shiori will be in Texas for one.
>>116129804People complain about unicorns too, who cares?
>>116129804you're retarded and a cuck trying to push your cuck fetish
>>116129759That GFE ASMR stream was Nerissa's highest ccv since August btw
>>116128974>bro thinks this wasn't a passing fad in 2018
>>116129688She is dork incarnate, always has been
>>116129803you definitely were not here lmao
>>116129760me? anon, you're the one whos trying to make yourself feel better with this reply, desperately trying to save face>i d-didnt read your post actually!!! even though i read the one after that.. but believe me it was for the image contribution!! its really important to me!!! even tough i forgot to add image to this post…damn, anon, you're burying yourself with every replyhow are you not embarrassed yet? but i guess you're a cuckposter so embarrassment is long gone
>>116128939Cc
>>116128939gg
>>116128939almost every chumbud i know that stuck around became a grem and/or autofister guy. but many left the fanbase
>>116129878>>116129889Madness
>>116129903Why not they stay with Saba?
>>116129903I watch Saba, CC and GG
>>116129926well of course they did, but that guy was asking about Holos. And Saba streams very infrequently, she's a rare encounter (which Gura was as well since late 2022)
>>116129850I'm making fun of cuckposters how did you even come to that conclusion
>>116129926who?
>>116129448Nerissa is a horrible ally to have since she's very needy very flakey very immature and emotionally unstable, beggars are not really vibing with her and unicorns are furious, so she's on a state where no one really wants to deal with her.I expect her to break down under pressure and become pro-unicorn in 2027. At least as much as she can be.
>>116129949herego pay your whore's boyfriend bills
Da bois have the talent of BTS and it's all because they weren't ALLOWED to interact with hololivers why they weren't popular!!
>>116128674She hates beans now tho
>>116129871You're so far gone into your own head that I can't tell what your point is anymore. Come out of there and talk like a normal human being.
need catbox nerissa asmr please
>>116129978This reads like satire
>>116129790This is going to happen, she's going to use Mori as a support shield to take the hits
>>116129393>1600 likes in 1h>1700 likes in 20 min
>>116129988
>>116129903most chumbuds watch the avengers or bijou
>>116129978I don't even get mad reading childish shit like this anymore, these people just aren't thinking.>Cover limits the time for meet and greets!!!Yeah because they're treating the homos like international celebrities instead of 2views and 3views, because Cover is set up and designed to manage international celebrities (Holos) and doesn't know how to manage literal whos>FSP is doing better! And thus holostars should collab more with hololive (???)FSP is hardcore yume and fujo pandering, why the fuck would female collabs with Holos do anything except piss everyone off and how are you using their example properly
>>116129978Homofans (the ones who don't watch streams) talk like strawmen made in /#/
>>116130027kinda based ngl
>ASMR>WITH MY FRIENDS'ing with Morinext is yuribaiting to complete the full post-homocollab apology rotation and We(yes all of us) will forgive her But I think she should have done this after an actual collab instead
>>116130027>Biboo almost at the same amount as Nimi, Saba's totally real best friend.
>>116130027>botjouCan't catch me with Hakka's cocksleeve on my watch history so I use a different channel for that
>>116129978kek I bet that's fishman from reddithomobeggars fucking hate yuri because there's no room for their bois in it
>>116130045I already forgave nerissa tbdesu
>>116130027All time probably isn't the best setting for the comparison since Saba's viewership is gonna be all skewed from her early months right?
>>116130045Not me, I cancelled my membership after the Jurard twitter shit, long before they revealed the 3 year lie.
>>116130055You're not the majority so no one cares about your opinion
>>116130027What about Wawa?
>>116130071Neither have Jailbirds. Before the homocover she used to have ~700 member Jailbirds in chat. Now it averages to around ~400
>>116130062>homobeggars fucking hate yuri because there's no room for their bois in itthey're also majority filipino and thus catholic because their island was colonized ultra-dirty-hard by Spain for hundreds of years. so they don't tolerate a little light yuri very well
>>116130066yep, I remember seeing user overlap in Nov last year shows that most chumbud stopped watching nimi
It will probably rise a little when the Shatter Legends song releases, but for now it keeps dropping and dropping
What is always funny to me is that a lot of people who try godhand for the first time underestimate it's depth because is a PS2 game, so they totally avoid the whole combo/store system, find the game super hard because of it and get a worse experience as such. If this wasn't a beloved classic by chat, calli would have trashed this game for the wrong reasons hours ago.
>>116130062>>116130098also because there are no males for them to self insertwhy do you think love teams are a staple of filipino culture?
>>116130096We cant see her subs, because shes in the 10k increment range over 1M, but I think she saw a significant drop in subs the last few days and thats why she did the ASMR. Subs would be a warning sign that people arent happy. I remember Ririka lost a few thousand subs overnight when she shit on her unicorns.
>>116130133Because only people who pay attention unsub.
>>116130026You will never get this back again and she will go on vacations with her new Chinese girlfriend instead
>>116130118Even if that means I have to defend Nerissa here I'm nothing if not consistent. There are few numbers less relevant than Spotify monthly listeners.
>>116128632nta but the part about Holos having to go behind Omegafag's back to complain to upper JP management was true, that's how they found out about most of the shit that happened within the EN branch.
>>116130096I don't think homo cover is that much of a big deal for most people, but her antics after that are disgusting
>>116130161People do not like the homos in general and they HATE Jurard
>>116130156>There are few numbers less relevant than Spotify monthly listenersNot for Nerissa. Nerissa atleast once a month boasts about her great spotify numbers on memberstreams. She takes pride in those numbers
>>116128746KekyPOW! ahahahaha
>>116130161>I don't think homo cover is that much of a big deal for most peopleIt obviously isn't. Ina did one in 2022 but has been considered one of the most anti-homo girls all of this time. A cover alone doesn't mean anything
>>116130159Again, that is a failure of the company, which I attribute to the period of rapid growth that was forced on them by the absolute success of early EN, which left them open to shitshows like the entire Omegalul era.
>>116130045next asmr will be a yuribit title just for jurard enter the hotel room like niji
>>116130027>>116130066Here you go, is this what you wanted?
>>116130055ya I said chumbuds not retarded cuckposters that sits here posting about fantasies all day
So, how well is the NijiEN GTARP sever going? What are the numbers opening day, and what are the numbers now? I've seen a few clips on Twitter about it with a bunch of likes. I'm curious as to if NijiEN has made a comeback.
>>116128756Interesing, Chihaya is doing more stuff with EN. I also recently discovered that she has live JP to EN translations on her streams, which means she's trying to get some EN viewers too.
Once again, the disconnection between the cuckposting and real life is so hilariousThey're demoralized, beaten, sad and depressed, BUT NERISSA TALKED WITH THEM OH MAY GOSH THEY'RE WINNING SO HARD
>>116128768I was wondering, has anyone ever checked Myron's chats?
>>116130161the homo cover was blowing over. It wasn't exactly good news but wasn't gonna be fatal, people can tolerate it.if the Jurard reveal is meant to be a reaction to that (and shattered legends/mercer), it's like taking a cyanide pill to cure a common cold. Him revealing they've chatted for years and basically calling her a good friend (whether it's even a true characterization or not) is by far the most unicorn-toxic thing nerissa has ever done.Fundamentally, the problem is that Cover (and Holos) can't have their fans thinking they are funding a dating service where pathetic 3-view homos get to shoot their shots at their oshis all day. This is the most toxic aspect of homocollabs and why holostars specifically and in particular are intolerable. It's so. fucking. retarded that Cover lets this situation happen, kek
>>116130225Wrong image?
>>116128804KEK!
>>116130225Shit wrong image
>>116130184Even if she does care about it, unless it drops below 6view I doubt she will attribute it to anything other than seasonal churn>on memberstreamsWell I self admitted to not being a Jailbird and this goes to show it. I didn't know that
>>116129978>knows their audience and how to cater to themSorry, can someone explain how exactly the homos are being prevented from catering to the presumably female audience? Did management tell them not to do BFE or BL ships?
>>116130227We never found his youtube account. If we did you can check it in the dokorisu site
>>116130211Highest homo right now with 1.7k.
>>116130191> Coco built and left> Omega ruined itSuch a poetry
>>116130150Her future return is inevitable
>>116130211Niji wonHolo lost
>>116130230>calling her a good friendI dont think hes lying, with how rarely homos and girls chat in each others streams, her showing up in his stream and the back and forth they had plus him showing up in hers the next day makes it plausible
>>116130199Women (people in general) who have the "too big to fail" mentality are so funny to observe
>>116130246never leavingfucking your oshi every daygetting shit paid by the whores all the timedoomposting for pity baits and troon likes
>>116128888I heard he has a new account now? Not this one, an ever newer one
>>116130230>Him revealing they've chatted for years and basically calling her a good friend (whether it's even a true characterization or not) is by far the most unicorn-toxic thing nerissa has ever done.That's only because it shows how much she has been lying and how much she contradicted herself.>>116130256Look up>Nerissa spotifyOr >Nerissa numberfaggingIn the archives. You'll find a lot
>>116129072Can anybody here comfort Ollie?
>>116130066ya a bit but it's not like she streams much in total so all time would be the most fair to get a general read
>>116130277Yeah. She was in his chat watching him the entire time (lol) so if he was exaggerating like usual she could have told him off but she didn't.
>>116129393You’re expecting anyone to defend homoenablers at this point? I used to watch Mori, but the Nerissa shit has blackpilled me. I blocked all the holo channels who enable with those faggots. Then again, all three are infamous for interacting with male vtubers. So fuck all three of’em
>>116130287Nerissa is literally handing out her pussy for free to homos and niggers seriously think they'll fucking leave if Cover says "okay guys no more free paid for concerts this time for realsies >:("
>>116130211Even the people who were hyped for this are calling it shit
>>116130230I agree with this and HomoStar act like radioactive walker couldn't solve this situation and they even asshole enough to pour gasoline to Wawa's IRISE
>>116129053Nothing beats PekoMikoschizo. He's the only motherfucker here I know who can single-handedly fill up a full 1500-post thread if he really tries (and he did that before)
Mint is begging for a japanese visa again
>>116130316Mint avoids male vtubers now
>never leaving>Why would the homos leave free pay>holostars is yagoo's pet project>yeah yeah two more weeks
>>116130201do you need a vpn to get on that site?
>>116130277There's a big difference between occasionally chatting about Naruto and getting advice about how to be more BFE one time, and being a close personal confidant.I don't really trust Jurard to objectively describe the situation, because once he feels he has the go-ahead to talk about it, he was always gonna try to exaggerate it and rub it in. It's Filipino machismo stuff. >>116130290>That's only because it shows how much she has been lying and how much she contradicted herself.It's not just about lying, it's about access. Fans don't want holostars to have constant access to Holos on their dime. People intellectually acknowledge that Holos might have private lives, but having to see them interact with actual homos who may become their friends or more (even if that's unlikely) is just fucking stupid. It's bad product design. It's Cover being fundamentally retarded about the appeal of their product.The homos are such a toxic pill to Hololive and the only reason they haven't killed the whole thing off is that all of the important and popular talents are higher IQ than Cover and know that this shit is retarded, and ignore them pointedly. Only the stupid, naive, or low-popularity girls do this
>>116130367I don't have issues in the US but I've seen other people in this thread complain about it, Euros maybe?
>>116130246what negativity is he talking about?
most of the homos would unironically pay to stay in the company instead of getting paid (no matter how low)
>>116130260They were never prevented, probably just told "oh you have a male audience actually, you should try pandering to them." But then they started losing numbers after the drama years ago so management probably told them "actually let's switch it up, pander to women now." Little do they know, women don't like being blatantly pandered to. You make it too obvious that you're trying to woo them and it's a complete turn off. That explains why no women want to watch Jutard lmao.
>>116129448who?
>>116130287Your cope grows thinner by the day
>>116130392blue homo
It's startinghttps://www.reddit.com/r/kurosanji/comments/1xs3cur/altare_shares_his_experience_talking_to_cover/https://www.reddit.com/r/Holostars/comments/1xs2f4y/altare_shares_his_experience_talking_to_cover/https://www.reddit.com/r/Holostars/comments/1xs7u4s/i_feel_like_i_want_to_address_the_stars_situation/
>>116130329who are these people? proof, holokek?
>>116130397Unless they get FIRED fired as long as they even have a handful of viewers theyre not going to leave
>>116130246>even if there's no guiding stars lowkey shitting on altare and I guess axel, imagine the daisenpai of your branch all they do is doompost and spread negativity
>>116130392Blue Homo saying that Cover has no plan for the Homos and are if anything actively avoiding themThis effectively one shotted Homosisters so the 2027 concert is probably going to see some grim as fuck numbers.
>>116130246Nerissa and him should trick a girl into a collab with the blue homo so he stops bitching so much
>>116129759>i didn't watch itKEK
>>116130388I'm a leaf I tried a us ip and it worked
>>116130413>Also, Cover is insane for leaning into the “idol company” thing and not supporting the boys who want to be idols themselves. Do they not see how lucrative Kpop is or look at literally any popular boy band? Give the boys (who want it) some dance lessons, singing lessons, chances to perform! C’mon!!
>>116130397this like there's always at least one of two girls from each new gen that is willingly to suck homo cock why leave?
>>116130448damn never heard of a site blocking leafs before, that's a new one
>>116129878>>116129889>>116129919AUTOFISTER~!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTxEGwMOQQI
>>116130340lol
>>116130392It's about Homobegger, cuckposter and Star's culture which not buying but only demand
>>116130451>Cover is insane for leaning into the “idol company” thingThese type of comments are so retarded. Why does Cover have to change for the homos instead of the homos simply adapting? Even Mori adapted
>>116130246>>116130428the filipinos love this job and fucking hate that all the first worlders constantly doompost because it makes them look bad and demoralizes the fans.If you can live like a king for $10k a year this job fucking owns, but if you're an American with any shred of ambition you're wasting your precious and irreplaceable 20s and 30s doing this
>>116130472mint cute
>>116130413FREE HOLOSTARSLET THEM GO YAGOO
>>116130419There wouldn't be a firing I dont think, I could see them just foreclosing the branch's and not renewing contracts. It might have looked sus and caused a bigger stir if this was done before the merge, with beggars pointing fingers at ID.
>>116130413..........................................
>>116130492Normally the take would be "just leave the company it isn't worth it" but some of these people are very culture war brained and view such a statement as a loss kek
>>116130413>Niji also released 'Splare' last year: a four-man high school idol unit that wasn't super popular but was attacking the same presumed subset of female otaku as Holostars was originally intended for.>They have their own unit YouTube channel which has weekly episodes and I imagine they were all hired due to their appetite for musical pursuits, specifically.>Now they average about the same viewership as all but the most popular HolostarsJP and yet almost no one outside Japan has even heard of them.>What's more, is that by the time of their debut, NijiJP had about 155 active JP members alone to contend with, and their girl-unit counterpart, Yoiyume, debuted four people just the month before.>Niji have been pursuing these unit-by-unit projects since 2023. People forget that the 7-person unit, Idios, debuted with their own short-lived jewellery brand, Dinamis, and their theme of being models has seemingly fallen by the wayside. Despite this, once struggling members like Rika and Meruto have trended upwards because more people have found them through opportunities and their unit channel.>If you did a viewership side-by-side of Niji and all of Cover, you'd straight up run out of Cover vtubers before Niji got anywhere CLOSE to three-digit viewership members — it's just that you've never heard of most of them because they've been helped in carving out a niche that's never overlapped with your interests.>Niji absolutely has it's drawbacks because of sheer volume and opportunity (though tbf, Hololive is now reaching that point too), but their capacity to support and adapt smaller projects and say 'Hey, we'll support you in carving out a Holostar-sized audience that somehow doesn't overlap much with our bajillion other members' is quite impressive.
mori is going to raid mint and give her gold
>>116129903Many of them also became Ruffians and Pebbles
>>116130451Yea and kpop sisters would shoot the hoes trying to get in good with their favorite male member and drop their bias if they date another woman. Idol culture is the same for both men and women and people who say this shit are underaged.
>>116130534Bibs in 30 minutes so Mori will raid her I assume
>>116130534It's funny how Mori can just raid Mint over her genmates multiple times and no one gives her any shit for it but if any other Holo did it you'd see immediate shitposting and graduation begging
>>116130554Tell that to Nerissa
>>116130556nigga what genmates is she raiding over
>>116130340>>116130472
>>116130055wrong girl again CuckFaggot
>>116130472Is this why Coco left the walled garden?
>>116130413>They (Altair and Axel) can't say it so we shall - Vesper and Magni, destroyed Tempus HQ>Magni - I am willing to forgive him now that, long ago in a stream he spoke his heart out during one of the confession-gag streams he had, where he alluded to his time as Magni and why it didn't work out for him. At least he was honest with himself and us. It is sad what his departure did as well, but he deserves his current happy path in life (dude recently got married even!)>Vesper - The utter garbage. Talking like he knows corporates inside out, yet joins a corporate role in vtubing and then bails out in the fastest graduation ever. The irony is hilarious especially because he had indie experience first, already admits to not liking corporate work and yet combines these two as "Vesper". and wonders why he isn't a good fit for that life (again) and then exits back to his PL mocking a corporation like he knew all along. I need to know what green fumes he was smoking then and now.
>>116130378Even ignoring the>Fans don't want holostars to have constant access to Holos on their dimeLine which can easily be twisted into cuckposting, THE most important thing is that HOLOLIVE FANS NEVER CARED ABOUT MALE VTUBERSThey've never cared about them despite 7+ years of homo leechingDespite 7+ years of outsized support for massively underperforming homo leeches, which was at the expense of content that could have been produced by and between Hololive girls, which the overwhelming majority of Holo fans want and is exclusively what they care about.This is why Cover is fucking retarded for allowing the continued existence of homos this long. Hiring subhuman third world sexpests into the homo's ranks is just fanning the flames on the burning shitpile that is holostars.
>>116130451why give altare who has released 1 cover in his entire career singing and dancing lessons?
>>116130568If you are taking brand and business advice from Nerissa you deserve your lower numbers and getting broom closeted.
>>116130338She really doesn't want to go back to America LOL
>>116130554I thought 'idol culture' was a uniquely Japanese thing
>>116130581
>>116130576>spoke his heart outHe had multiple meltdowns on his fans leaving him as his stream numbers dwindled and he expected them to come crawling back after seeing him cry.
>>116130337I still don't know how to summon him
>>116130000ironic hearing that from a cuckposteryou know what my point is. you're a ligger and a cuckposter who hates hololive and seethes at yuri, screenshots prove thatnow you're playing dumb as a deflection
>>116130413LOL>Responses like this are always super frustrating, because its like well what about these guys kind of answers? What were the suits expecting? Organic growth similar to Hololive with similar organic viral moments that never materialized without having to lean into BFE? Natural comedians that generate their own viral moments that will allow them to pivot into something bigger? Because if I was a suit, that's what I would have wanted. Natural viral organic moments that showcase the talents personality and authenticity? That just never seem to materialize and if I had to theorize with limited watch times, for girls if you're going to watch something are you going with hot, tall, handsome fake anime guy in Love and Deep Space, Niji BFE, or the rather safe Holostars? For guys, are you going to watch quirky and funny Hololive girls or watch some dude be the best of the best, or Hey Buddy Holostars?>Simply put, no one had any idea of what Holostars was suppose to be. Not the talents, not the fans, and not the management.>Honestly, if it were me, I would just fold the remaining Holostars into Hololive and call it a day. Maybe they can have sibling comedic moments.
>>116130574kson is the ultimate proof that rules are needed for women.
>>116130581...........................
>>116130603It fucking isn't look at even Pokimane in her old ass age won't say the words boyfriend about her male "neighbor". Anyone with more than one braincell can rub them together and see that Pokimane is dating that guy.
>>116130608biggest blunder in vtubing historykilled dozens of small corpos and whores who fell for the male vtuber memestill damaging hololive to this day
>>116130052>>116130201Heh reminds me of that one retard who argued that Kanikis will never ever become Pebbles and that they would rather watch Nimi, only for another anon to post this same image and then that fag suddenly went quiet.
>>116130632But idol culture is what makes Japanese idols so much better than other entertainers
>>116130246>guiding starsYeah, they are fucking. No way he would be this optimistic.
>>116130413>idk personally i think no one watches them because theyre boring and have no direction themselves lol.>they arent god gamers, some of them can sing but dont put out a ton of music, they dont really organize any group events, and 90% of them are just like whispy voice femboy guy. The few that were interesting and starting to take off ended up leaving.>not saying this to hate but like, male streamers are watched just as much if not more than female streamers, and other male vtubers are quite successful too. i guess you could say cover is partly to blame for not giving them direction? idk. i've tuned into a few holostars streams and its usually boring af (this was pre all the drama so idk what they're like nowadays)
>>116130633Move Mori down, debbies are fine.
>>116130614Wait until JP hours then post Miko or Peko, he's bound to show up.
>>116130071Pls come back she needs the money…
>>116130451I Fucking despise how these retards keep bringing up kpop idols as if they know how any of that even works. They don't even want to be cute anime boys with how much they bring up their real bodies on stream what makes them think these boys want to act like pretty kpop idols? Fucking delusional.
>>116130413>IMHO, they wanted to "ride the coattails" of Hololive to some extent and see if they could take off with that. I will always remember that Astel stream after Cover revealed they are cutting support for Holostars where he revealed that for YEARS he has tried to unify the group, come up with ideas about how to make the branch profitable, create collabs and group projects, etc. Every single time he tried he got rejected. Not by management, but by the boys themselves. 3 years ago he just finally gave up. After 4 years of trying and going nowhere, he reached his limit and just said "fuck it, if we go under we go under".>He expected a more gradual wind down instead of the instant "no support" they got, but he knew this was going to happen, it was inevitable. And if for years the boys were lazy, did not want to improve, did not want to change and work together why should we believe them when they say "No, no. We actually tried and had ideas! It was managements fault! No direction!"? Granted, this is starsEN talking, so one could argue that Astel and starsJP are a different thing entirely, but like... come on.
>>116130661>and other male vtubers are quite successful tooI wonder what world these people live in, and I dont believe redditards are watching and believing in kuzukeks numbers.
>>116130574She "must" because Change randomly attack her friends and sponsor instead of Coco at that time just like they attacked Notebook sponsors stream which Fubuki did with Botan.This is confirm by Kson herself
>>116130633Bae is a good girl that loves her fans. Is it really that hard for the others to do?
>>116130589Beggars don’t watch streams so they think Cover subsidizes all dance/singing lessons. They can’t comprehend that the girls invest in these things in their own initiative, sometimes even before they have 3D models ready.
>>116130413This implies the suits no longer give a fuck about them, which also explains the sudden increase of their attempts to try to leech to other Hologirls like Octavio commenting on CC's tweets for example
>>116130603KR borrows heavily from JP idol culture except KR is much more insane and unflexible
>>116130712>Changegave me a kek
>>116130527>they've been helped in carving out a niche that's never overlapped with your interests>we'll support you in carving out a Holostar-sized audience that somehow doesn't overlap much with our bajillion other members' is quite impressive.All vtuber corpos should take this advice actually. Not everyone needs mass appeal.
>>116130413Right somebody clipped ithttps://youtu.be/KcU_9Cjb7wU
>>116130603>he doesn't know about the parasocial phenomena that was radio stars
>>116130633Deadbeats and Otomos are mostly fine though, also why is Mococo up there?
R-R-RATE THE SCHEDULE
>>116130527Niji doesn't have 62 4views.
>>116130624>huh, we've put out a "giant pile of shit" product and it's not selling. what do we do with it?>erm, my suggestion is that we merge the giant pile of shit with our successful and profitable hamburger business, maybe just put some of the shit into the hamburger meatkek these retards
>>116130472Why are these holostars shitters, borderling 2views, in this collab?
>>116130764>ITS ALL COVERS FAULT ITS ALL COVERS FAULT >WHAT YOU EXPECT ME TO MAKE CONTENT AND BE ENTERTAINING TO ATTRACT VIEWERS? >NO THEY SHOULD BE HANDED TO ME BY COVER
>>116130788what the fuck is Golden Joystick Award
>>116130764WHYDOES HEFUCKINGTALK LIKE THAT
>>116130788Oh my God they got rid of Mogojan....
>>116130764>At the same time, with the financial model that Cover runs on getting more and more unsustainable as the years go by, I'm crossing my fingers for a best case scenario in which the talents (Hololive and Holostars) are allowed to "leave the nest", if you catch my drift. Every talent in the company has incredible potential to do well as Indie VTubers, and I think maybe it's time to close up the corporate agencies and let them fly on their own. It would be great for talents like Calli, who has had conflicts with management, and talents like Nerissa, who was basically forced to move to Japan to make her job at Cover easier and struggles in Japan regularly.
Wow, no tally from yesterday today. Guess this place really is dead.
>>116130830Game award show about actual games and not a glorified ad read like Geoff's Game Awards selling trailer space for millions.
Is it just me or Chihaya's doing more and more collabs with EN girls nowadays? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyNJO0aVBEc
>>116130832He's doing a Sykkuno softboi Azn impression. It's a thing, and it worked really well for Sykkuno, but Altare isn't sykkuno
>>116130848Fuck off and BUY A FUCKING MERCH
>advent collabs coming back to help shield nerissaSame old playbook
>>116130764>I feel like it's because Holostars makes such a small number compared to the holo gals that they genuinely don't know what to do, and that's honestly a shame because they do so little in marketing for the boys. Like yea FSP doesn't pull the numbers either but they're still incredibly successful because whoever is behind the scenes knows their audience and knows how to cater to them. I was there at Anime Impulse with meet n greets for both holostars and fsp and the difference with how each fanbase was treated was fucking staggering (fsp could pay extra per minute and got signed cards, you couldn't even talk to a holostar for more than a minute and a half)>Hearing this also sucks because the higher ups literally have the talent of BTS on their hands and they refuse to do anything meaningful with them,,,, besides the concerts and thank GOD they finally allowed hololivers to interact with holostars without the audience throwing a hissy fit, but the fact it took THIS long after soft-firing half of jp and probably getting cornered out of en and verbally torched, only NOW have they decided to do something>I also feel like they need to just stop listening to the toxic side of the fanbase because they get burned over kronii even looking in a holostars' general direction. Like Hakka can collab with Ironmouse on stage and make WAVES with no problem, but even so much as breathing the same air as a hololiver is suddenly sacrilege?!?!?>Really didn't help that the early days of EN encouraged Yuri shipping and other Unicorn minded stuff so by the time TEMPUS came along, they were already on a bad foot before other factors
>>116130830it's basically what the golden globes are to the oscars
>>116130870Sykkuno actually streamed and maybe loved his fans a little too much unlike Altare who does not stream and hates his fans.
>>116130848ah yes calliope mori, famous for wanting to "leave the nest" of hololive.These people could at least pretend they've watched a single stream in their lives
>>116130788Oh nice, full Advent collabs are back.
>>116130859If the only thing left is selenfag it deserves to die
>>116130870Its so fucking breathy. you think he would improve on it since debut? if youre going to do that type of voice at least be good at it sykunno is a fag with a melting face but he at least can do that type of voice well.
>>116130907retard
>>116130764>I fear it's impractical for them to break NDA when they never gained a lot from their work experience with Cover Corp. Rather, I hope a class-action suit would be an option that even girls and anyone who has graduated or been disappointed by the company can join in. This might sound messy but, I truly feel bitter about all the boys who graduated, all the girls who were mentally or health-wise been hurt by this darn company. I want to see "real-world" consequences happen. I dont want things to be just swept under the rug. I hope real, "legit", and experienced lawyers and other organizations/unions/whaetever etc help in this lawsuit thing.
>>116130866......Wall was destroyed.... JP and EN can collab easier than before just like Golden era and Omega faggot still not exist
>>116130788Ill be able to play Soulframe with Shiori again, hopefully we get a few more hotfixes before she plays because its buggy as fuck after the new update on Thursday.
>>116129631People keep mentioning that blue flip, but nothing flattering was said during that Birdbrain stream. She said she preferred to use a friend of hers than promote one of the homos. Thats not an endorsement, it was also surprising back then the beggars didn't jump all over it like they normally would because they scrape at any crumb of an interaction. Myron could have chilled and been fine, and Rima would have lost another paparazzi story. The thing with Groombullet? He couldn't even remember if it was Nerissa or not, meaning they ain't even close, Nerissa gabs with anyone though, and the person who brought up that stream lied about it demeaning idol culture, guy said he talked about the industry, but just how hectic it was, not even talking about how bad fan reaction was. Dinoboy's whole thing was he got advice from her and they talked, but beggars instantly acted like they were two seconds away from marriage, when he said pretty much true things all Holomems say about Nerissa, that she is nice and helpful. And just like with the blue flip, its not very helpful to mention about how badly he can't retain a female audience when the guy cried about that a couple months ago. I don't think anyone in their right mind would see that as anything but the fact her advice fell flat, because its really just him. Plus, he would not say that they never personally met if she is talking to him so candidly if they had. He has no trouble talking about innuendo with other Hololive members. So there is more evidence that she just gave him advice and that was it. Same with the collab song, she answers if people ask. Could have been anyone that asked, and she helps people, bringing up an earlier point. So that is consistent with her behavior. I know cuckposters love to stoke tension, but if you think logically, nothing seems that out of sorts.
>>116130788>another Advent collab, but this time with two pro-HOLOSTARS together with two anti-HOLOSTARS
>>116130938>the girl who has been hurt by Hololive the most is still there and one of their strongest soldiers
>>116130929???
>>116130938> class-action suit would be an optionon what grounds?They didn’t receive more free stuff
>>116130961Serious question does she actually pay you to make up excuses for her behavior? Every single fucking time.
>>116130886These people don't watch Holostars (to the surprise of no one), how much would you bet they don't watch FSP either despite bringing them up in their arguments?
>>116130991Yes
>>116130938Why do they act like Cover held them hostage with unreasonable kpop like contracts where they sign for a decade with millions in early termination and paying back training fees.
>>116130938Fuck off and we don't care your hollow feeling
>>116130985Mococo Abyssguard...
>>116130985someone's missing
>>116130971now that Fuwawa absorbed Mococo she is complete and she counts as two people
>>116130961This is a 40 year old man that has been writing essays for Nerissa about how it doesn't count for two years straight
>>116130908There's no discussions about streams or milestones anymore. People just want to talk about drama. Maybe a certain someone was right when they said one of this thread's cult heroes was a miserable person that does not watch streams, it reflects on nearly everyone here, Jesus.
>>116131028>>116131032Mococo was always just Pero doing a funny voice.
>>116130413Is this why Nerissa suddenly went full homo? Is she trying to save her boys? If that's true you might see more closet homofans suddenly go public to try and boost them.
Imagine if you went back to August 2023 and told us>Advent will be the first gen to have half its channels supporting the homosThe thread would have erupted
>>116131033The perfect being...
>>116131066From what it looks like it seems like she got bored and lonely in Japan and decided to talk to the homos with all her free time.
>>116130859Even the fake tally disappeared. Did both anons get banned or something?
>>116130859The Ruffian Tallyanon got banned?
lol im done with EN, I aint buying shit from them anymore. Its all free entertainment to me now
>>116131115The usual shitpost is that Advent are meeting up all the time though and are best friends irl, why would she be bored and lonely?
>>116130972The soul of Hololive
>>116131136desu I thought he was the autofisterfag from earlier but I guess there are multiple
>>116130961>The thing with Groombullet? He couldn't even remember if it was Nerissa or not, meaning they ain't even closethe point of the groombullet thing is that there were so many holo girls at that hangout that he couldn't remember if it was nerissa he talked to about idol stuff
Imagine if you go forward to 2028>latest yab happens100 posts of selenfag talking to himself, nobody around to read it, no numbers, no streams, utter silence as if you're the last person on earthppm would flatline
>>116131152Become Yukimin
>>116130866actually if you think about it this could be grim because Chihaya now trying to attract some EN viewers implies she's struggling to get more JP viewers on her own..
>>116131152a fool and his money are soon parted.next time don't listen to what a random white girl tells you. there's a reason all the best girls are Asians
>>116131180>100 posts of selenfag talking to himselfThis is jaypee /hlg/ right now with Pekomikoschizo btw. And get this, the thread was made 7 days ago
>>116131153Everyone else is busy. Biboo's number 1 in Japan is IRyS. FWMC are in and out of health crises constantly.
>>116131180I just want to see how the NijiEN GTARP server is doing number wise.
>>116131207He only has himself to blame and how he's helping to kill this thread too.
>>116131180That's why I always warn those fuckers to SHITPOST IN MODERATION. Because unlike them, people can get TIRED of the same bullshit and will just leave, until it reaches the point where ONLY SCHIZOS remain here (and the thread effectively dies).tldr: have some self-restraint for fucks sake
>>116131207I would go to check but its funnier if no one looks and it dies silently and unread
>>116131214Starting to think that Mori told Nerissa to rip the bandaid off and tank the hit and start to rebuild rather than let it continue in secret. Having it come out by accident which would be more and more likely as time went on would only make it more damaging to her.
>>116131197It's opposite anon.... they can hope to gain more popularity easier than before because wall between JP and EN was destroyed and this also eliminates tension between EN and JP audiences as well.Chihaya better future and new opportunities await.
>>11613124650, 50 total posts in a row are his. Sukikira would be very proud of their strongest overseas soldier.
>>116131214doesn't this go back to debut
>>116131197Or Chihaya just wants to hang out with new girls. She might be apprehensive about asking senpais for collabs versus biboo who is a senpai but much more approachable.
cute chained rockhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwRDqS5YND4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwRDqS5YND4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwRDqS5YND4
>open biboos collab>cute girls being silly>happinessis that easy
>hadaka ojisan yeah me
I don't understand a word of JP but I'm still drawn to Kyoko. Man what is this? I even watch her JP streams even though I don't understand shit. What is this? Is this love?
Since Justice has only 1 out of 4 homocollabers when a regular gen is atleast made up of 50 percent homocollabers, someones gotta give in that gen. So will it beUnicorn darling but contrarian CCReformed yuribaited RaoraNormalfag magnet Gigi
>>116130921Thats the thing, and something you missed. They're nearly all trying to make their own groupies, believe they can find the fast track to cash and pussy, believe the girls are untalented whores who just are successful because of simps(not realizing that the female population then girls have often eclipse BOTH their female and male representation by miles). Thats the misconception we have in this medium. That its just lonely men that make these women popular. Just like in other aspects of life, women don't acknowledge their own loneliness, lesbians and lonely female fans aren't counted amongst the "simps". Its hilarious how backwards society is right now that we can't have a mature discussion on loneliness and how people of both genders find strength in community. But I digress. Sykunno was even forgiven for being a genuine cheater. That is why I say to stop trying to aggressively fight these male vtubers and the homos, there is too much stigma that even shows sometimes amongst our own fanbase (sometimes even in the talents perceptions) about idol fans. Stop giving them a leg to stand on where they can believe these guys are some good ol baby boys. Let them see the sleazy, insecure, bitter fucks the vast majority of them are. Pretty sure many people have never seen that clip about Axel throwing shade at Miko's success, because its buried socially by people only seeing others put off by his interactions with Zeta and Nodoka ages ago as them just being jealous of the guy and having that stick. And not him being genuinely kinda hotheaded, unprofessional, and awful. Same with the others. Which is why the approach to combating them has got to change. Sure, they're dead anyway, but why give them any way to get sympathy?
>>116131380Kyoko and Biboo going to bring back EN/JP collabs in a big way and I'm here for it
>>116131435Only one gen is 50%
Honestly the way Adventoddlers ran their mouths from the moment they debuted I don't have any sympathy for themBe careful Justicebabies, repeat their mistakes, you're next
>>116131204You know most of the homocollabers are overwhelmingly asians, right?
STOP BARGING INTO MY COMFY MORI STREAMS YOU WHORES
>>116131432Yes, it is and that is a good thingCongratulations
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>>116130413Wow reddit is shitting all over him
>>116131462Myth is 66 percent homocollabersPromise is 66 percentAdvent is 50 percent (FWMC is considered one person for channel matters since if one homocollabed both are regarded as such)
>>116131215Vstats doesnt work on your computer?
>>116131475How did people run their mouths? I have been here since before Myth, I haven't seen anything other gen fans haven't done. Elaborate.
Biboo's collab is talking about the EN and JP differences in poop and fart.Now it's an old school EN JP collab
>>116131136I uploaded it at 11 AM some three threads ago, give me a second I go to my computer
Chihaya.....I know you want to trap the little gem in your thighs but the joke wasn't that funny.....
>>116131480>>116131503>>116131510birgit is going to lose his mind kek
*NOVEMBER 9TH 2026 FINAL EN TALLY*>58,261: Gigi (Hololive Justice)>19,215: Cecilia (Hololive Justice)>8,368: Bijou (Hololive Advent)>6,165: Baelz (Hololive Promise)>6,153: Bijou (Hololive Advent)>6,153: Nerissa (Hololive Advent)>5,909: Mela (Hololive Asobi Mawaritai)>5,890: Nerissa (Hololive Advent)>5,709: Kyoko (Hololive Asobi Mawaritai)HOLOLIVE-ONLY TALLY COUNTER: 4A...a draw? Incredible. Gold for Gigi Murin's Worlds 2026 watchalong, Silver for Cecilia Immergreen's announcement stream, Bronze for Koseki Bijou's playthrough of Detroit Become Human alongside Cecilia.>RANKING PER POINTS (Gold = 3, Silver = 2, Bronze = 1)Bijou = 14pGigi = 8pKyoko = 6pCecilia, Mint = 4pShiori, Saba, Vantacrow = 3pRaora, Nimi, Dokibird = 1p
>>116131511Deserved
ARE YOU SAYING I MISSED MINUTES OF CC BECAUSE I'M NOT WATCHING THE WHIGGER
>>116131563NOV 2026 EN GOLD11/1 - Mint - Halloween Stream: 34,72511/2 - Bijou - Momseki Debut: 16,40811/3 - Vantacrow - The Plant Shop: 40,47511/4 - Bijou - Unarchived Karaoke: 7,85511/5 - Bijou - Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time Remastered: 8,42411/6 - Shiori - Withering Rooms: 6,78611/7 - Saba - Potato Please: 21,61211/8 - Bijou - The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time: 7,04611/9 - Gigi - League of Legends: 58,261PER COMPANY6x: Hololive English1x: Densetsu.EXE1x: Nijisanji English1x: IndiePER UNIT5x: Hololive Advent1x: Hololive JusticePER STREAMER4x: Bijou1x: Shiori, Gigi, Mint, Vantacrow, Saba
>>116131153Cause that’s just what delusional Adventfags say. >>116131214Not anymore, Raora is her number one now.
>>116131380I love their Peak Collab yesterday with Mela nanoja, cute passion English together with cute passion Nihongo
>>116131601Biboo hangs with IRyS and Raora as a group most times and splits 1on1 time equally because sometimes she wants tits other times she doesn't>"IRyS has big tits"They're inconsistent in size
CC making shit up
>>116131435There's only one in Justice who has the worst history of interacting with MULTIPLE Homostars+Nijimales before joining Hololive.And no, its not Raora.
>>116131175But again, if you saw the convo, it wasn't even about haha unicorns as the original shitposter wanted to make it about. The reason I say this, rather than covering for anyone, is that shitposters want to make you worried for something, so they'll exaggerate or lie about anything to do so. Its like how people use propoganda to swerve others to react strongly and not take time out to think critically.
>>116130413>I also question Cover's business practices and their neglect for the boys.>While yes it is a very normal business practice that the Japanese companies do when something isn't bringing them money it's an awful business practice. Uh, which normal company lets staff that don't bring them any money and might even be a net negative stay around for years. Japanese or otherwise.
>>116131634CC the contarion
>>116131215No one's watching it. Even in the niji thread they'd rather numberfag about songs than talk about gta
>>116131601I don’t see Momseki begging Raora to sweep Biboo off her feet and make her a woman
whatever mori x cc is called is a very underrated pairing
>>116131503AAaiiiiieeeeeeee Birgit don't look
> Here's the thing....>Holostars and Holostarsen was supposed to have been the male counterparts of Hololive. As in they are meant to become Male Idols to capture the Male idol fans which are xonsist of female demographic. They may have captured a very small number of people but the rest of thier fandom are Holo Anti Nijisisters who want to ruin Hololive from within by using them.>They've been around for years but Thier growth has stagnated just as long. It would not have been an issue if Thier targget market matches the alotted budget for them but clearly that's not the case, despite their lack of growth they have been given multiple opportunities to showcase themselves to a wider audience and now is set to have their own 3D live event.>I think it's about time to be real with ourselves. Holostars as a brand will never and I mean NEVER! succeed. At least as comparable to its sister company, even if they hire the perfect talents with everyone a female Male Idol fan wants and needs simply for the fact that to them it has the Hololive Stigma on them.>And yet Altaire here has the guts to say "he has lost his respect to yagoo?" Like dude...You guys joined in a tainted brand with subpar talents, not so charismatic personalities, Little to no Idol Culture knowledge or willingness to assimilate and cultivate. They say women does not know how to be accountable but man these guys sure need to check on themselves for that lol.
>>116131503Shouldn't she be busy preparing for her birthday week?
>>116130717Bae is a homocollaber whore, only cucks think she respects fans, the question I always ask is, would everyone be fne if ALL EN girls did what Bae does? having homos in her live, call ins, watchalongs?
>>116131665mori is still seething that cc get to eat up gg
>>116131563>58,261: Gigi (Hololive Justice)what Numberfaggotry happened in that stream
>>116131684Bae was homocollabing before EN homos and their retarded culture war even made it to EN
mori told cc to fuck off
>>116130986Monopoly is grounds for class action.
>open Mori stream>pic rel>close Mori streamShe really is the worst gamer in EN
>>116131704I love Mori but I don't think CC's wind up key will fit
>>116131702this is also why nobody else will ever be “allowed” to collab like she is. not even ERB who made it clear on day 1 because the shadow of the culture war will always hang over them
>>116131475>day 1 homocollaber debut>Dead on Arrival>WOKE RUINED HOLOLIVE CULTURE>Worst Gen destroyed EN>0 projects, no outputSure buddy the “Justbabies” are definitely going to run their mouths, all they do is get constantly shit on for just existing.
>>116131658>they'd rather numberfag about songs than talk about gtaObviously not nijiEN's numbers lmao
>>116131702And? answer the question, would you be ok if all of EN did what she does?
>>116131718No, that's hakoz bealz. or nerissa.
>>116131344>opens the stream>Kyoko and Biboo are talking in english>Chihaya's quiet and her mouth's like "o"this is a little bit awkward ngl
>>116131475Justfags were ruined day 1 because of ERB, they can never claim to be a golden gen
>>116131740>would you be ok if all of EN did what she does?No but I'm simply explaining to you why most anons give Bae a pass and don't care about her interactions with the JP homos
>>116130413>And that's overlooking the fact that most that got Cover attention were the least Idol like girls (Fubuki to a degree, Matsuri, Korone, Coco "Good morning Motherfucker" Kiryu) with Sora lagging behind in subs. The more idolish girls only started gaining real steam after Cover got big. And looking at the JP boys they were in their own way like such Holo girls, not that people could tell with Cover basically marketing them as if they were Vox "Pussy Burp" Akuma
>>116131759Hakealz beat SekiroNerissa doesn't even count as a gamer
Is this a bad time to point out Advent was the gen that almost destroyed EN branch unity before Justice healed us with ENReco
>>116131770Not wrong, Yagoo is retarded in a way that Fishman isn't, Sakana wouldn't make the same mistake of pushing all his talents to pander to a single direction and would let them do what the unhinged stuff they needed to shine
>>116131663>>116131601 (me)>number one nowI said that because IRyS got significantly more busy after the concert announcement, now all of Biboo’s hangout stories are with JP or Raora, she even mentioned she didn’t see IRyS in a while and wanted to get her nails done with her.
>>116131153That isn't a shitpost(what is a shitpost is Nerissa hating IRyS, as they had gone out together before). Rissa just usually had before she came to Japan, her sister, her brother, her mother and father, and two grandmas(before one passed and some of the fucker shitposters who wouldn't leave /ope/ made fun of her death last year). If you ever lived for awhile with family just very close by in the same place for a long time, it feels weird not having that. Even losing her sister back in the States when her sister moved out finally with her husband affected Rissa. Its not that Advent isn't enough or that she doesn't visit them sometimes.
cc helped mori with the goon squad and now shes going to sleep
>>116131781CC : Spank her to death !!!Mori : I will murder her by spanking her ass !!!Spanksister
>>116131803is this nigga for real? Justice literally brought in the worst type of audience to HoloEN
LMAO
>>116131816Mori x CC = Spank sister
>>116131665Terminator I'm pretty sure
Yo I heard you fags like Valoranthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OrDic721VM
>>116131828Twitter keyboard warriors can be ignored unlike the relationships between the girls
What happened to Dimitri Jap? He went to a different deparment?
biboo sounds kinda racist ngl
>>116131803Nigga, we had the Advent (not gen, the name Advent) Christmas with Kiara, the rock paper scissors Christmas, the Tea/Coffee debate, the spelling bee, the full branch covers that started before the graduations. You just want to hate Advent to suit your narrative.
>>116131866Nene?!
>>116131933She fucking sucks so it's going to be funny watching her POV
>>116131929Like I said, Justice healed us. You listed either events that came before Advent or those after Justice
>>116131905he is responsible for hiring woke whores
>>116131475>Last collab by each gen that wasn't a celebration or a release (meaning, they had to gather for the fun of it)>MythJune 20th 2026>PromiseSeptember 6th 2025>AdventNext Wednesday>JusticeOctober 30th 2026 (before that June 19th)I will run my mouth however the fuck I want until the other gens at least pretend to tolerate each other more than contractually obligated. It's not Advent's fault Fauna left and hit everyone's ass on the way out, it's not Advent's fault that Gura did not work at fucking all and that now Kiara seems to be making opps off her own genmates. It's not Advent's fault that ERB is a disaster that can't do shit as a leader and it's not Advent's fault that literally every single gen put together cannot match their song releases.It took a concussion a blood infection an autoimmune disease bronchitis and fever to FINALLY stop the weekly Advent collabs, so fuck this noise, I'm not going to tolerate dead gens trying to lift their chin while their members cannot even look at each other in the eye.
Oh no, someone check on him.
>>116131952I disagree. Justice opened the floodgates for the hordes of evil that we are STILL dealing with to this day. That's not something you can ignore.
Is this supposed to be today?https://cover-corp.com/en/ir/calendar
>>116131905He got moved to another department a long time ago.
>>116131772Rissa isn't consistent as a gamer sure. But the Faith, Ao Oni, Clock Tower, and Silent Hill 2 streams were fun as fuck. She really likes her lore. Especially the Silent Hill 2 one where we had a retrospective after playing it.
>>116131988November 11, so tomorrow.
>>116131866I like their voices
>not even pretending they aren’t antis
>>116132001thanks for the info, jurard
>>116132008>November 11Where did you get that? Closest I can see is that was the date for last year but it doesn't seem to be always the same based on the May release
>Shiori, Rissa, and ERB should form their own homo collaber gen.>Biboo, Fuwawa and the rest of Justice should make their own gen full of cute shit.
>>116132009you like nenes armpit voice?
>>116132054KEK anon you actually made me look back at the image haha
shitty nambas
>>116131838>I'm not [opposite gender] we have different experiences I guessWow that sounds familiar
>>116132050Im all for segregation
>>116132050hope
>>116131976>Joining Mori was a higher priority than this
>>116131952Bitch, I was saying EN had showed signs of healing anyway, and things were looking up, its not any one person, shit started to be fun and I hate that things just went to fuckery in Fall of 2024. Shit happens, but its sad. However, I think EN just needs time recalibrating over just restructuring after restructuring that happens each year. Gotta be exhausting for the girls.
>>116131805Wrong, direction is very important for your brand identity and I'm tired of people here thinking they unironically can't be themselves because of idol direction, Matsuri is pretty much still the same for example and they only change some stuff due to YouTube rules because they keep getting banned back then.
>>116132114>>116132050For goodness sake. You guys are just easy pickings for shitposters, if you aren't just the ones playing both sides yourselves.
>>116131805>Sakana wouldn't make the same mistake of pushing all his talents to pander to a single direction and would let them do what the unhinged stuff they needed to shineYeah he would have the brilliant idea of mixing polshitters with trannies and ultimately having culture war fights inside his own company, what a genius
>>11613214290% of posts /here/ at this point are just the same two groups of shitposters setting up easy bait for themselves, usually in an attempt to make doxxfaggotry look on topic.
Biboo is surrounded by nothing but tits
>big tits x flat x big tits/juicy thighs (goddamit Chihaya is perfect)As it should always be
I want to be Chihaya's little passenger princess
>>116132171Just another day in the life of Biboo
So, Cover's quarterly report drops tomorrowI got in near the bottom a couple of months ago so I'm already way up on the 1500 shares that I have, and normally I would have sold these shares a few days before the report lands because Cover usually sucks ass at hitting the consensus estimates.But this quarter I think they should blow right past them.EPS should be way up now that Cover has abandoned the vast majority of its money pit dumps like HoloEarth and profit for holodori should be fairly high, so I think 28 EPS should be hit easily (I'd guess around 35 EPS will be hit)The revenue estimate is almost insulting with how it's only a billion yen more year over year. We know that holodori made around 80 million dollars in its first 3 months and even if only a quarter of that amount got put on the books as revenue for Cover that'd be more than 3 billion yen.All this to say that this will be the first time I HODL through earnings for Cover, and it's with the largest amount of shares that I've ever owned for Cover. Any other stockbros hoping to ride good earnings report or did you sell off back when it was over 1650 yen a few weeks or so ago?
i just want moar /u/ or CGDCT
>>116132138Anon, you're talking to someone glazing Phase of all things. If this direction was so pleasing, their fans would actually watch it. But they have diarrhea of the mouth about UNHINGEDlol content they don't bother to watch. Expecting Yagoo to do the same thing is like asking him to make Hololive Nijisanji, when we have documented proof of NijiJP, yes, JP, saying they would rather have Hololive. Phase is slowly trying to have their VShojo "to the moon" moment.
>Biboo sneakily turning towards Chihaya's big tits
all those twitter likes and reddit upvotes really paid off
Kyoko undestands english better than Biboo
>>116131969>that now Kiara seems to be making opps off her own genmatesESL much?
>>116132229Nerissa isnt ready to give up on him just yet
>>116132212what are our early predictions, anons? Good, or BAD?
>>116132194Kyoko also has juicy thighs
>>116132251They had to already revise earnings because HoloDori was selling crazy, this will be a good report.
With Jurard finally revealing that he's a Chinoy (Chinese Filipino), this is probably how he looks like:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRKlieuD8-UKind of explains why so many Holomembers and one NijiEN member to be attracted to him. Chinese Filipinos are generally handsome and rich.
>>116132212Where do you get that it's dropping tomorrow? Their IR site still hasn't updated the sched there.
>>116132229>>116132229nobody has even qualified for the cripple tally yet...
https://x.com/jurardtrexford/status/2119965715872776475https://x.com/jurardtrexford/status/2119965715872776475https://x.com/jurardtrexford/status/2119965715872776475I think is something to do with Altare's rant recently, considering he's in the replies.
>>116132278Anon just give up. We already saw the Homostars IRL images before. He's one of the worse ones.
>>116132229i wonder which one nerissa is watching
>>116132261Anon....Kyoko has stick legs. Compare that to Chihaya's juicy thighs. God just imagine squishing those
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfGuQELt1TkHOUSHOU MARINEYuureisensen20MDORYAAAAAAAAADORYAAAAAAAAAADORYAAAAAAAAAAA
>gassing up their flip failure who cries about not being able to gain a female audience>cuckposting againThis is pathetic beyond words.
>>116132299Ever since the announcement there has been a split between Tempiss, who just wants to get the fuck out but has to fulfill contract first, and Armpiss, who are all either third worlders or leeches and will suck dick if necessary to stay.On the middle there is Tempiss 2, which has>Flayjeet, who is making bags to return home>Bird Homo, who is probably begging his brother to let him join FSP>Shinri, who will die of cyrrhosis>Bettel, who just abandoned his channel entirely
>>116132328DOOOORRRRRYAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>116132347Who was shinri again? I remember seeing the name sometimes on vstats but not anymore.
>>116132374The one that looks like a male stripper, orange jacket and shit.He just took it to drink. Drink drink drink, I don't know how he can even fucking stream, man.
Qrd on Sopia horse racing drama?
>>116132374the fag who looks like Vox but more muscular
Sorry man I don't make the rules
>>116132328Senchou is the goat. Hopefully her comp didn't have the Nikke destruction malware. I want her to go through the story and get all teary with it.
>>116132369kiara mogged lol
>>116132317by your standards then Kyoko has small tits too
NANOJA POWER!
>>116132393So you mean actual muscle, which isn't much, because wasn't Vox beer gut man?
>>116132328Hololive, time to 20Msuisei bibideba 32 daysmarine bishopai 74 daysmarine iii 82 daysmarine maribako 177 dayskobo help 247 daysmori rip 265 dayssuisei phony 266 dayshololive ochame kinou 292 dayshoshimatic mother goose 354 dayssuisei soiree 369 dayssuisei caramel pain 389 dayssuisei stellar 480 daysayame goodbye sengen 487 dayslaplus kamippoi 569 dayssuisei ghost 664 dayskobo overdose 820 days>marine yuureisensen 832 dayssuisei king 1026 daysmarine megumi 1156 dayspekora discommu 1072 daysmarine ahoy (short ver) 1234 daysaqua iro palette 1316 dayssuisei yuurei tokyo 1523 daysaqua dadadada 1565 daysokayu mogu mogu 1703 daysokayu flos 1923 daysmio sparkle 2304 days
Cuckposting is even more pathetic in Japan.>Context, Su made a stream about questions related to romance and relationships and whatnot>One of the questions was: Is it okay for you to keep following your ex on SMS?>Su said sure, it's fine>This shit pops up
>116132424>IRyS and Biboo at the topI didn't know BibRyS is THAT strong wtf
YOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO
>>116132404she was doing it at the studio on cover hardware so that wasn't a problemshe was ultra fucking depressed that she recommended the game to all the ichimi right as it was infected with malware though. she did a mengen where she castigated herself the entire time
>>116132470Kek I just saw that Su just addressed this on her current stream literally like 50 minutes ago
>>116132392>Sopia won horse betting in minecraft using science>Shares her winning method on Twitter>Holoantis intentionally use the method on real horse betting>They lost and blame Sopia for it
>>116132470
>>116132499Hello mindbroken faggot
>>116132470Trolling is profitable. Its an actual profession over there in some cases, and the paparazzi has always sold rag magazines. Why would people think that the easy social media monetization would be any different?
>>116132510What's up what did she say
>>116132251Very bad but manageable
>>116132520That she doesn't have an ex-boyfriend
>>116132527Yeah no shit she's 20 years oldBut goddamn why Su, same shit happened last year with Pizzafag
>>116132278> Flip> Chinese > handsome and richLmao
>>116132470na the posts here are even more pathetic they literally make up cuck angles out of nothing
Matsuri did a good job hiring this gen, she should be allowed to hire all new gens from now on
>>116131905Pretty sure he got promoted after what he did with EN some time ago now. Unfortunately it seems things got a bit worse again for EN after that
>>116131527>ElaborateHe won't, he's an Adventschizo that thinks they stole Gura's drive and opportunities or some other retarded shit.
>>116132424IRyStoCHADS I kneel
>>116132499Wow, she already has more likes than Mint did after 3 hours
>>116132484Biboo has one or two whales, but she benefits alot from doing decently long story games and getting flooded with SC at part C discussing the game. AC7 was the last one thats a good example.
>>116131563TOTAL HOLOEN DOMINATION DOOOOORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>116132395Wrong all of them match their tits. Matching the voice with the model is one main things Cover does when choosing designs and that's why they scrap designs if they don't find a girl that can fit them
>>116132424>Ruze and Flayon that highWhat are they doing right?
If you want to single out the cuckposters, make sure to include the /lll/ spammers that force Jurard and Octavio in everyday conversations.
Why is Biboo and IRyS that high is their SC game really that strong?
>>116132642biboocuteIRyScute
>>116132574Also she said she started doing longer C parts because of IRyS which is how IRyS makes her money tooBibRyS is the best things that has happened to her
>>116132424In Salamander, we trust.SEND SUPERCHATS TO NANOJA NOW
>>116132675Buy Noja coin !
>>116132642ya they've been doing good every year
>>116132676Actual live signing. Impressive
>>116132424>>116132675>>116132707she's really putting a lot of effort into trying to gather memberslots of memberposts and membervideos
>>116132676I tell you Japanese really favorite Italian and German (Austria) girl because of culture and crusine
>>116130271
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqApYULd07sOkayu is holding a big hololive thumb war competitionmight be numbers
>>116132212when is the new "Holonext" stream btw?
>>116132717>FWMC still that high despite being their lowest year in stream hourssasuga
>>116132724She can be the first army in future Noja
fuck Ouro Kronii
>>116131107Perfect Fuwamoco (fused) theme...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpkeAQG6kQw
fuck Nerissa Ravencroft
>>116132737>Germany, ItalyIts funny because Japs dont travel out of their country much, if they did visit these places, the opinions would change quickly.
>>116132775Fuck off kaela
>>116132782I remember when FWMC released Lifetime Showtime they said it was Lifetime Showtime Perfect Form and I keked hard when they said it
>>116132392>Sopia won horse betting in minecraft using science>Shares her winning method on Twitter>Some online horse racing fans at her spoiling the game and potentially leading JRA to shut down betting>They compare it to how Nijisanji respects horses and horse racing more and don't get involved in horse-related controversies unlike Sopia and Miko
>>116132621You just need to have 10 birthdays.
>>116132251gonna hit the stop-high, guaranteed.
>>116132537>Yeah no shit she's 20 years oldWhy would that be the dealbreaker?
>>116132737Beeg cat means beeg pussy
>>116132809FUCK Ouro Kronii in the ASS with my FUTA COCK
Damn even with the Nerissa and homo discussions, this thread feels like the most normal and non-schizo thread I have ever seen in my recent memory.
>>116132819Right dutch betting is such a new and forward strategy
>>116132796They inherited a working ethic from Germany but love Italian crusine.
cute ass collab
Biboo collab ending... No...
>>116132796japan LOVES europe and they are sad about the br*wning happeningthey love to put europe victorian aesthetic on everything they consider "oshare", its insane
>>116132537qrd on pizzafag?
Blessed collab
this is now the ChiKyoBi group
ChiKyoBi my beloveds
So Mint's gold will be determined by if Biboo raids Mori after the collab or not I suppose.
>>116132906This anon understand Some Japanese really broken heart after they visited Paris and become depressing No joke and it's become huge topic for a while.
biboogone... bweh...
Biboo railed Kaela
>>116132939doesn't biboo always raid?
Biboo gone and now so am I, so long friends
>>116132874No vtubers ever did a how-to guide to it before out of respect for the JRA, Nijisanji fans have been talking about how Cover is retarded and never teaches their vtubers what they can't do
>>116132738Would be the funniest shit if she jumped ship to another corpo out of nowhere again
>>116132939mint is ruthless she even stole nimis engine
mint gold with a 5k stream wtf is happening to hololive....
>>116132717The secret is not turning off SCs during SC readings. People send them more often during them since they get a faster response.
>>116132979Well they do know that they don't have to bully their coworkers into committing a suicide attempt nor do they have to try and rape themSo at least Cover taught them a few things
Your gold for the dayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WUK7l5adOghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WUK7l5adOghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WUK7l5adOg
>>116133000bots >>116132991
>>116132979Same Nijisanji fan who want Aloe dead?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn4m02G_Ju0
>>116132966Nah, Biboo gets raided by EN a ton but doesn't do much raiding to EN
>>116132717man raora streams consistently and does everything right to pander to unicorns are she gets absolutely nothing in return, bottom 3 in superchats and can't even sellout her merch
>>116133003This. There’s pros and cons, since IRyS is the type who never reads old SCs unlike the girls who do dedicated SC readings, but she makes over half of her SCs in a stream during C part once the whales are confident she will read them
>>116133018nigga she only got botted to almost 6k hololive should've been able to easily beat that
>>116133025Retard
>>116132819Hahaha horse autists are retarded just like baseball
>>116132966She probably doesnt raid like 30% of the time and just ends stream. Otherwise usually to Mori, Bae, IRyS and Kaela if she's ever streaming. FWMC also but they've not been streaming.
>>116133013>MikoI would have preferred a Peko solo stream but this will do I guess
>>116133025it's actually the opposite if someone else is online most of the time she's not getting a raid and she streams the most so she raids the most
>>116133037We will know after this anon because EN management really suck at his job to the point that even I just know about them recently in JP Vtuber spheres.
>>116132790Don't mind if I do
>>116132670I see, thank goodness IRyS is a good influence on Biboo
>>116133050>some shit boomergame>part 2 of a multi pov kusogame
>>116132738Laughing Biscotti is a blessing in these hard times
>>116133037She's one of my most-watched other than my oshi, but I don't buy hololive merch or superchat anymore because I've been bitter and pissed off at Cover for years. I wonder how many others are the same way. If she'd debuted earlier I could easily imagine her doing better.
>>116132717I like the quiet competition Shiori and Gigi often have going in lots of their numbers, right down to Gigi trying to take her out with that concussion
>>116133052who did Biboo raid after her most recent OoT stream? It certainly wasn't EN
>>116132470That ex? Me
>>116133037>does everything right to pander to unicorns and she gets absolutely nothing in returneerily similar to nerissa btw
Nerissa being a rat jumping on to a sinking ship (the homo branch) is so funny. It's like Nicki Minaj becoming MAGA right before they got btfo
>>116133116I wish Shiori would force the yuribait with her, but Gigi is probably afraid of her all things considered.
>>116132945I heard japs are starting to check out countries in Northern Europe as an alternative to the usual ones
>>116133124Her own frame for the the babydoll collab pretty sure. Or Kyoko, dont remember.
>>116132519We used to have TMZ and dramatubers around here you know
>>116133124She raided her Babydoll collab. She even made the thumbnail on stream at the very end of it.
>>116133124Maybe ID and they really need number right now.Hmm...... I should buy ID merch from.now on too....
is this true?
>>116132589Half of them either are hiding a boyfriend or are busy sucking Holostar cock
>>116133037This is why many cuckposters think Raora will be next btw
>>116132621Either they found out Roberu's secret or are cheating the system, betting on the latter
>>116133124Or who did she raid here? Again, it wasn't EN.I'm literally just picking streams from only a few days again and there have been multiple chances to raid EN and she didn't.
>>116133153Japanese interest about Hungary, Estonia and Poland as well but I never go to that countries.
>>116133177I mean what does she even have to lose? and we already know she was an even bigger homowhore than nerissa was pre-holo
Only thing that can save newissa is a fluffy intervention
>>116133037She started out in a bad timezone and wasting the most important time of your career in that slot is something you can never get back, it is what it is. It isnt necessarily the only reason but it did cut her off from the biggest market and somewhat from the holo algo
>>116133175we're gonna find out on the 20th
>>116133037That's because she rarely acknowledges superchats or has a gimmick with them. Just look at the trend from top to bottom
>>116133124>>116133193wow biboo is kinda a bitch huh?
>>116133141>Nicki Minaj becoming MAGA right before they got btfoWtf why am I now finding out about this /here/???
>>116133207>wanting nerissa to put jurard near fuwawa
>>116133044Yeah, for mori turning off SCs at the start of SC readings and randomly having them off like she does right now is what caused her to drop down in SC rankings from the top. Mori does have a shitload of extra merch through UMJ to buy that other holo mem don't have so it's not liek she lacks places to spend money on her..
>>116133207Fuwawa can't do it aloneh
btw did Kiara unfollowed the homos recently? It seems like she follows 4 people less now and she used to follow Tempus 1 faggots like pretty much everyone would be interesting if she was aware of Nerissa bullshit, possibly in advance.
>>116133175I hope so
>>116133177But I have been posting Not Raora past tweets…
>>116133195I saw some videos of Japanese youtubers (vloggers?) in Switzerland, Norway, Sweden, and UK. A few years ago such videos don't exist on Youtube.
>>116133220She raid Kaela and ID need number
>>116132717Top 5 are OK but the rest are surprisingly low
>>116133193I dunno, you could probably look it up, and you just got answers to your first samefag, weird attempt at an angle.
>>116133213You don’t watch streams.
>>116133207Fuwawa is the one who told Nerissa to do it
>>116133237>It seems like she follows 4 people less nowHow do you even keep track of this?
>>116133270She rarely acknowledges superchats. Yes
>>116133147Realizing they haven't had a normal stream together outside enreco where they really interact directly. Just groups playing friendslop. Kinda odd considering they kinda have similar interests right?
gremreaper bros...
>>116133190How do you cheat the system with superchats?
>>116133285I mean, I personally wouldn't wanna get close to someone who gave me a head concussion
>>116133275Just make shit up
>Gigi wants Calli to give her a dirty Sanchez.
God cake princess is hot, if I wasn't abstaining jerking I would jerk off to her photos
>>116133247You are right too and Japanese actually interesting in Stargazer pie and Eel pudding of UK....ERB should bring it to Tokyo lmaoooo
>>116133305yeah gigi is kind of a bitch, huh
>>116133285Shiori doesnt one on one with literally anyone apart from Zeta for whatever reason. The homo also, but those are kind of sparse?
>>116133200the goodwill of the Hololive fanbase. she has a very good reputation, even among JP holofans they love her.
>>116133209it was kinda funny for those few months raora tried to experiment with her timeslot and streamed during morning jst hours like mori and biboo do, and she got absolutely bodied by the overlap and didn't gain any new gachis
>>116133200>>116133332She's been a holofan since 2019. She knows what holofans want. It's simple as that. Same with Gigi. Same with CC. It's not a hard thought process
>>116133200She was friendly with pretty much everyone which makes sense as an artist and the handful of her really cringe tweets make it seem so much worse.
>>116133283She acknowledges EVERY superchat, even 1$ ones, and she reads chat consistently. Out of all the streams I chat in Raora reads my messages the most, followed by Biboo, Gigi, and Calli. But I guess you can come in here and lie about Raora since nobody watches her.
>>116133330She did with Rissa and Biboo though. And with Mori and even fucking Kronii.
>>116130788Jurard and tavi will 100% in chat
>>116133285>Kinda odd considering they kinda have similar interests right?not really what do they have in common?
>>116133037There's a two-letter reason all 4 of Justice is at the bottom half. Debut period is the most important for any vtuber, and management killed them in the cradle from the moment they were announced.
>>116133305Man even now watching that back wtf was she even doing getting rough like that
>>116133360in her stream POV yes.
Gremreaper is so comfy
>>116133358She did a couple of one offs with all those in the span of years now. With Zeta she did a bunch in a row and continues yuribaiting with her particularly.
>>116133354NTA but ironically, you could also be lying about what Raora does because no one watches her. Funny predicament
>>116133177Raora was never an actual fan of or watched male vtubers. Her interactions with them were always just business. GG is more likely because she genuinely liked them pre-Holo.
>>116133392>Daddy Vox was "just business"
>>116133354I watch you Raora retard. I'm the one who liveposts here. There are rare streams where she reads superchats as the come but those streams are miniscule in comparison to the rest where she doesn't even read superchats at all. Don't think you can lie here just because you think stream watchers aren't present
>>116133385From the few times I've seen Raora streams its 90% talking Kiara style not implausible she reads every SC.
>>116133370it was over from the moment they posted this
>>116133392>MARRY ME OCTAVIO yup just business
>>116133413>From the few times I've seen Raora streams So why are you making these definitive ass claims about all her streams? Moron lmfao
>>116133408Exactly, find any example of her actually watching anyone's stream or being in their chat. It was all twitter cloutchasing when they were hot shit.
someone bot a homo or some nijien, anything but a fucking mint gold
>>116133425>nukes every instance of her interactions with homostars and nijimales to commit to the Clean Slate protocolyup, Business
>>116133369Neither are my mains so honestly just based on vibes of weird obsessed girls which obviously doesn't narrow much. Just feel like they are two sides of a coin watching sometimes
>>116133432Why are you?
>>116133414It's exactly this, Europeans are just really fucking poor
>>116133349TRVKE.Niggers here will never admit this though, since most of them are antis, cuckposters, and homobeggers. They also just straight up do not watch any streams and just shitpost about holo all day using shit fed to them by drama niggers on twitter and clipfags.
>>116133437It will be like her third in 9 months or something, she can have it.
I watch Raora streams but I have no idea who's right in this debate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8owLUWEcMFM&t=651It's just business don't worry
>>116133454I can make those definitive claims because I actually watch her retard. Don't talk about numbers if you can't fully contextualize basic information
Chattini must be sweating rn
>>116133370> want to pander in SEA and EA> Stream in EU timezone I think we should behead faster than this.....
>>116133483Don't lie
Years later and they're STILL salty about the Sayu situation lmfao
Raora's biggest problem will always be her voice. ESLs from Europe and SEA who can't tell the difference won't like to hear it but so long as listening to her is a trial of endurance for the average stream watcher (read: American) she will never pull numbers for money
>>116133434Are there examples of Gigi watching the streams and being in chat?
>>116129964Hopefully she will be pressured by new CGDCT gen free market always works it's no coincidence that 2022 GRIM homocollaber era happened during prolonged time with no new holo debuts and holo graduations. It's one of the big rules of this world women act like bitches when they feel like they can get away with it because their position is safe add some serious uncertainty and they change their tune fast.
>>116133485It's just business
>>116133425this was a reaction to the stars trailer and their visual reveal and she never commented on this dude ever after this because he sucks lmao. Idk why cuckposters bring this shit up so often because its the least bad by far
>>116133481SHUT UPIT'S JUST BUSINESS
>>116133385I watch all her streams too and she always reads super chats and regular chat. I’m sorry you are lobotomized and don’t notice that. The streamer who has a gimmick of noticing new subs and sniffing them doesn’t read or notice supas? Nigga please.
>>116133370......EH...... Who is the fuck EN management at that time???
We should take every /#/fag and give them a corpo to run just to see how fast a google dockey drops. The only numberfag worth shit is the anon who actually reads the reports
>>116133485>fake tweetlol
>>116133480From watching some "reacts to X Holomem", all the big tit ones sound like they are pushing 40 and are just hopping on the trend because their irl friend told them about vtubers. Not these particular ones, dunno them, just overall.
>>116133545stfu if I were in omegas place back then EN would still have their covid numbers today
>>116133485>>116133481
>>116133545Yeah Financial Report is the most important thing
>>116133545I know for a fact there's at least 3 of us that post analysis because we've all posted in the same minute before
>>116132819meanwhile kuzuleech literally said wanting a race horse to break its leg and die painfully, instead of the made up controversies about Sopia or Miko, these nijiniggers are too obvious lol
it's crazy that in all the time raora has been a streamer that her english has not gotten any better and she hasn't leaned any japanese despite living there for 5 years
>>116131175he never said there were other holos and dude was full of shit because he would remember if Nerissa talked to him or not
>>116132717>shiori higher than nerissaThis is why nerissa turns to homos
>>116132717I kneel, Diamond Dogs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCFCMDhcgko
>>116133599This shits been going on with her for 3 years you guys can stop citing recent events for her trash behavior
>>116133599Shiori has probably what, like 2.5x the stream hours of Nerissa?
>>116133565My main problem with retards arguing about how "X could be successful if...." is that they operate off the hindsight of holos already established success. Literally EVERY single piece of "advice" posted here has been tried by other corpos and they still went under
>>116133599shiori's superchats were actually a bit higher before the brick incident so nerissa should expect a dip as well
>>116129677I was in a member stream when she discussed bringing her brother on stream and was actually concerned about the potential backlash some people said she understands nothing about unicorns and that's big part of the problem there is no unicorn manual for normie women to understand but you would think her pro-unicorn friends like fucking Fuwamoco could explain it to her if she fucking asked so maybe she just doesn't want to know.
>>116133599shiori actually streams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBTwi36xKP4
>>116133611>you guys can stop citing recent events>>116101994Even back in 2024, she was already basically the lowest earner in EN
>>116129791it wouldn't be a rational move but she's a women thus not rational by definition
>>116133632> Noise in this AI PIC > FUCK CONTRASTPLS GOD FIX YOUR SHIT
>>116133625Nah Nerissa knows how to beg for SCs, Shiori doesn't. Look at her ASMR, straight up SC begging. 2nd Anniversary was just a send me SCs and I'll read pink and above. She even had her family members read SCs to bait for them. Shiori doesn't care that much about SCs.
>>116133640the first Homostar x Niji ship I've seen where BOTH fans actually approve and support them together that's cute
>>116133176but enough about phase whoresTOTAL HOLOEN DOMINATION DOOOOOORYAAAAAAAA
>>116133661kinda wild how little attention that wildcard is getting isn't it?
>>116133675DOR - ACK!
>>116133632> wrong Nerrissa horn> WTF with TAVI shirtARGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>116133698They are just going to buy ads the when the songs release and call it an resounding success
>>116133640They suit each other
Phase will incline because I shit up a random thread - numberfagging 101It's funny how they actually advertise 3D lives as "sololives" lol
>>116133609fucking cute
>Gigi wants to spank her PAWG.
>>116133711like the IRISE/Kiara song?
>>116133632> Tavi shoulder> Nerrissa back hairFUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
>>116133700>even in his photoshops he subs for cuck contenttypical phasecuck kek
>>116131765And I'm explaining why that's stupid and wrong.
>>116133728Korea #1 and it's only going to get worse next year since they are going to start counting Youtube plays for Billboard again
>>116133733PHOTO- AAAACK
>No holoen reached 5k tonight >Mint gold & single entry in the tallyLeaving Mint and the engine asides, this is grimmer than even the grim era for hololive. At least back then getting numbers wasn't an issue
gigigone...
>>116130096tbf her streaming and entire attitude was so erratic during the last 2 years + it's hard to say what to expect she had problems even before the homo shit came out, even before the Myron drama /OPE/ turned into an anti thread because they've noticed she's constantly lying about shit and taking them for a ride it wasn't a schizo attitude the way like the faggot posting about Kiara everyday or SEA retard spamming his pekwhorra slop
>>116133759I blame Nerissa, shes demoralized the fans and her whorish behavior made the Vikings lose badly
>>116133770She was just directionless and thought moving to Japan would help out her career not accounting for cultural and language differences.
>>116133733Phase wasn't even a first option for their top talent KEKKKKK
>>116133759blindchama?and yes super debuff streams have always been a thing
>>116132555So does this place. It's what we get for letting Phasejeets get comfortable and accepting them.
>>116130378>who may become their friends or more (even if that's unlikely)not even that unlikely after Fauna reveals
>>116133759Biboo reached 5k anon
>>116133770Casual fans and clip watchers defended Nerissa for two years while actual Jailbirds saw her reach nearly the lowest stream hours in EN 20% of Moris music output. Any sane person would ask what the fuck is she doing. Her album won't come out for another 3-4 months. Thats almost 4 years. Longer than it took IRyS, Mori, Bae and Kiara, and they all streamed a shit ton more than her.
>>116133632MTFK!!! GET IN HERE AND FIX YOUR SHIT !!!
>>116133698I stopped caring the second I realised it was AmaLee and 3 people who can’t sing
>>116133787VStats missed that bit at the very end. Biboo was only 4,981 there.Less grim, I suppose, but still the point stands. HoloEN shouldn't be struggling to get the minimum number required to enter the tally when their members (including one among the top when it comes to CCV) stream
>>116133698In Ironmouse side, It isn't that badhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avcqy_RFHgghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avcqy_RFHgghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avcqy_RFHgg
>>116133640milgur died for this
>>116133775Send JJ to my rammies please, we can fix him
>>116133812Amalee, Ironmouse and even Dokibird release music. I don't know what Rin Penrose was even doing there
>>116133632Learn to use inpainting !!!
>>116133826Its a multi pov kusoge, your mint shit gets like 2-3k max if she ever does bother posting her frame, and not funneling all potential viewers to nimi and the married/whore squad.
>>116133632
>>116133784Moving to Japan absolutely helps with your career, the problem is she can't handle be so far away from her family but she's too cheap to fly around like Kronii does.
>>116133845why is she harming that jailbird I don't get this reference
>>116133848Lots of (dead) subs from YT shorts from 4 years ago
>>116133810>Her album won't come out for another 3-4 months. Thats almost 4 years. Longer than it took IRyS, Mori, Bae and Kiara, and they all streamed a shit ton more than her.This gets brought up from time to time, but people loved defending it by deflecting to ERB's output. ERB's output is zero, yes but that doesn't mean Nerissa isn't down there in the gutter too
>>116133826there were 2 streams both were debuff hell, wtf are you even comparing to JP?
>>116133883They think everything is a zero sum game where if one thing is shit the other has to be good. Nope, they can both be shit.
>>116133037>>116133370I am european, and desu it really is as simple as that. Americans are much, much, wealthier than we are.
>>116133848>It was supposed to be Kiara.>She wanted to form a pseudo holo-avengers group.>Cover said “lol no”.>Kiara has melty and menheras out after Serendipity (Even said her issues at the time weren’t related to the merger).>Pivots to IRISE.
>>116133848Yes and Ironmouse and Doki both suck shit
I just saw on X, but what the fuck did the goat do recently?
>>116133897Cover did the right thing, and they are involved in the IRISE project so it's not like they hang Kiara out to dry.
>>116133827why are you posting a link that has nothing to do with wildcard club?
>>116133765I liked her kiss goodbye. She should kiss Mori over the mic more often
>>116133918Isn't Ironmouse part of it?
>>116133700Did camilo caicedo post this to patreon too
>>116133661neat art but funny that barely anybody on twitter gives a shit
>>116133915anon that's just his fevered imagination
>>116130161yea Nerissa could get away with the Cover alone without too much backlash if she didn't decide to reveal she was cucking her fans all this time, I don't mean she fucked the homos (although some of them are in Japan so theoretically not impossible if she already loves them so much) but what the fuck was even the point of revealing how she had all this long conversations offstream with weirdo dudes and apparently only some of them could pass as "professional" she was sharing private shit with them, she was ranting about "idol culture" and probably her own fans, private life shit and maybe even other holos who knows. So in a week we went from being pretend jealous about Astarion and that dude from LADS she had a plushie of to Nerissa hanging on discord with like 15 horny dudes or how many homos there are, actually scratch that nothing says she's not talking to other men even fucking niji homos there was a time when Ollie bragged about getting closer to Tectone.
>>116133369The whole ao3 fujo fanfic stuff. They had a whole book club with reine. What's even weirder is that Gigi and reine seemingly dropped their pairing, I'm guessing because of timezones, but they were really close at one point.
>>116133758now post lia regaling her chat about her dinner dates with flayon>>116133786good thing she didn't get it, they dodged an artillery shell
>>116133926but henya/kson/etc aren't part of her group. That's a (ex)vshojo group not wildcard club
>>116133810>>116133883Cover music side is just painful and slow. She had in my feelings 2 years ago, so they were working on something, but then it slowed down. Iirc ERB basically said that she was/is under a contract where she can't put out music which should end soon, but I find this strange because afaik she wasn't releasing anything in her rm?
>>116133930It's fine, it'll get botted to 1mil
>>116133949Do you think that was somehow related to her takedown spree?
>>116133946OH ok I just think this is part of Wild card project
>>116133285They don’t like each other, simple as that.
>>116133944wasnt that the girl with the redditor boyfriend?
>>116133949>Cover music side is just painful and slowWhile true, she is slow relative to the other girls
>>116133963pretty sure most girls don't like gigi
>>116133827>link for bait viewno touch
>>116133698Imo, they did a terrible job in conveying what exactly is the end result of this or what exactly will happen on the way towards it. It relied so heavily on the names involved more than anything (also, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but rin Penrose is not a singer right? What is she doing there?)
>>116133979She got a lot of subs. Literally the company running this picked the most subbed unaffiliated vtubers in the west and said okay you are all team captains.
>>116133976nigga please
>>116130230>>116130161>>116133941This is why I feel a bit schizo about this. Like, no one really cares about a homo cover. Shiori had one, she even sang in a jp homo 3d live, and no one cares. People already forgot Kronii was in this one.So why did she go nuclear like this? and as I said before, it's not just revealing you have been lying like that, and all your words about being pro unicorn where empty, she also rejected shioraven (which desu was already living off crumbs) and bloodraven, pivoting to Mori.I can only theorize she's attempting a redebut/2.0 and completely changing her career, but I am probably coping because her content since then is the same as usual.
>>116133887When did I ever compare them to JP? I was comparing them to EN streams before. Even back in the grim era, the only reason the tally would be empty would've been either no one streamed, or one of the runts did a zatsu / SC reading stream. Having gaming streams, no matter how debuffed they are, failing to reach 5K is grim(Well, again, apparently Biboo did barely reach the minimum requirement for the EN tally so it's less grim, but the point stands: holoEN didn't use to struggle to reach 5k with gaming streams when one or some of their top members streamed)
>>116133960nah, the ones on mousey's 'team' are in picrel
>>116133698I still don't know what this club is supposed to be
>>116133963That's the default state nobody fucking likes Gigi but she's in and they have to pretend all the same. Which doesn't even mater anymore eith EN dead. Shiori just happens to have the excuse that she doesn't collab 1-1 often to get away from her, shame about the rest of the homo obsession tho
>>116133999>MichiShe's already big. What's she even doing there?
>>116133999I really don't know anyone except Michi
>>116133949>Iirc ERB basically said that she was/is under a contract where she can't put out music which should end soontimestamp?
>>116133993shit I used to remember even superchat readings would get 5k sometimes
>>116134024mouse nepo pick
>>116133968Her numbers look better when you include advent, like with the ep and a solid 5 songs a year since they debut + her own, it's an ok production.
Guy... I think Mori maybe the worst gamer in EN...
>>116134042It's Nerissa
>>116134010Don't worry they don't know what it is either because it just seems like they picked leaders and got other girls to join to form small idol groups focusing on different genres. The end goal is still unknown.
>>116133965no that's another phase whore haha
>>116133993retard
Mori> Evade x 3 and got attackedMorichama
>>116133485You what's funny? Like, we all know Raora and Gigi interacted lots with HOLOSTARS prior to joining Hololive, but right now the HOLOSTARS are pestering the one Justice member who NEVER had any form of interaction with HOLOSTARS before Hololive - Cecilia. They're literally ignoring Raora and Gigi now while trying their hardest to "get" Cecilia, which is weird.
>>116133993>>116134033Whats the point of this? Hololive dominates the year over and over and over, you fags pull out this angle the one or two days they play some garbage. Did it for a month over holodori, dont get bored?
>>116134042not even close. Most holoEN wouldn't get past the first two stages of God Hand before giving up.
Mori shall know pain ! in GOD HAND
>>116134060They already have the others in DMs. CC is the only one completely ignoring them.
>>116134029I don't think I can provide it, it was a passing comment from some anon who was watching her and I can't track in the archive.
>>116133976>Loved by Mori>Kiara went on a heartfelt 5 minutes speech of how amazing Gigi is mid Minecraft stream >Ina wakes up at 7 am to watch worlds with her>Kronii sleeps with her >Bae couldn't stop the Yuri on a one on one ad stream>Fuwamoco loves her>Biboo dances with her at any opportunity >Justice obviously loves her (especially erb and cc)The only ones I wouldn't speak with certainty is irys, rissa, shiori. But they barely Collab with Gigi tho, but sure man they all hate her or whatever.
>>116133609Let's just swap Kiara and Kaela officiallyKiara gets along better with the indogs anway while Kaela gets along better with EN
>>116134089Cause that seemed like something from the fake ERB post where they said she had a sick family mem to take care of.
>>116134086NTA but I'm pretty sure the ones that the Homos occasionally mention are the ones who are outright ignoring them, in their attempt to get the girls attention (by unleashing their homobeggars upon those girls). Even JP Homos do this tactic.
>>116134116>JP Homos do this tacticNo in Shinove era and they respect HololiveJP more than HomoEN todayJunktard and Octavi makes Oga and Pizzadad look like decent human being
>>116134066yay domination over a increasingly shrinking industry
>>116134116Remember that time when Shiori mentioned Gigi's name while in a collab with Flayjeet and he suddenly lit up like a fucking Christmas tree, expressing his desire to "connect" with Gigi which prompted Shiori to quickly deflect with another topic? That gave me the impression that Gigi deliberately ignores the Holostars.
>I have say it many times before and I will say it again : What's is blocking Holostar from flourishing is the constant refusal of Higher ups managment to actually put them in the same light than Hololive. They keep them on the side and isolated them constantly, they should share the light of Hololive to actually have better results.
>>116134029I don't think it's real. Last year she said she would release an original after the twitch RP stuff but in one of her most recent twitch streams she said "let's hope for an original next year"
Kaela 5k from Calli raid.
>>116134148No and fuck off, we never prioitize Homo more than our girl and pls stop your parasite mindset
>>116134142You will keep posting this until you pass most likely.
>>116134144Takes a certain kind of evil to whore out another girl like that, but maybe there's still some good in Shiori. Or maybe it was a threat that she can sick her horny dogs on Gigi at any time
Kaela got raided by Moti HoganOh shit Kaela is unhinge todayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVVyTYmmgN8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVVyTYmmgN8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVVyTYmmgN8
>>116134144groombullet toontown was enough for me to know those monkeys just fling shit
>>116134144>>116134171KEKKK Shiori had that "what the fuck dude" face when Flayon said she should tell him more about Gigi, like legit creeped out, then she changed the topic to throw him off
Funny how Jurard gets all the hate when Nerissa is the actual sexpest here
>>116134183QRD?
>>116134144>Remember that time when Shiori mentioned Gigi's name while in a collab with Flayjeet and he suddenly lit up like a fucking Christmas treeOh yeah I liveposted that reaction. Shiori didn't actually mention her unprompted.Flayjeet asked who's participating in the tourney and Shiori responded saying she already told him who's participating in dms (meaning he already knew). He still insisted on Shiori telling him and when Shiori told him the people who are competing in the tourney, he faked an overreaction towards Gigi's name specifically like he was shocked about her participation. (We know the reaction is fake because Shiori already said she told him in dms)
>>116134116That was legit only pizza fag and I think astel. Robert was the only good one, it was the opposite way around for him. Subaru/nene/gozaru have brought him up
>>116134114She's taking care of her parents
>8 hour thread during the day
>>116134198................................................................Is it really true that there's not a single decent person in this group of HomoEN assholes?
>>116134183>tldr Shiori had a collab with Saaryon>at one point Shiori mentions Gigi>Saaryon's expression instantly changed, like a horny predator that found new prey>he tries to ask more about Gigi basically saying she should tell him more about Gigi>Shiori briefly looked creeped out>Shiori brings up a different topic, ending that conversation
>>116134171stop blaming shiori gigi and flayon are friends
>>116134207cut Astel out and he autistic about this
>>116134066The point is that holoEN numbers have dropped significantly compared to how they were before. Yes, Hololive still dominate, but that shouldn't be enough unless you are satisfied with them being just a big fish in a small pond. They "played garbage" before, too, but that didn't make their top members struggle to meet the minimum requirement for the EN tally. That showed their bottom line has dropped and it's not a good thing.If you care more about numbers than just as a tool to shitpost against others with, you should've realized that too.
>>116134196Honestly if she was in his dms at debut it may have even emboldened his behavior over the years
>>116134224Jesus Christ
>>116134232does that mean me and donie are friends since I call him a fag constantly on xitter
>>116134219There were a lot of jailbird number posters and Nerissa decided to massacre them
>>116134232Faking a reaction about something you already knew is weird even if you're a homobeggar
>>116134220cockroach
>>116134239She stood by and watched him sexpest her colleagues
>>116134224>They should have chosen someone like Roberto of En.> But no... they are hiring a sexpests gay shit
>at least as far as EN goes, I agree its best days are likely behind it. Gura, Mumei, and Fauna were core members who left in short proximity to each other, which caused permanent damage to the viewership, and quite a few remaining talents have forgotten what made Hololive successful (or just dont care anymore) and its becoming more generic, though Bijou and CCGG still get it. JP is still going strong though. Fuwamoco would be good too, if only their game choices weren't so uninspired... Rather than part 18 of Donkey Kong, I'd have liked to see them play My Little Puppy..
>>116134197>>116134224
>>116134237newfags don't remember when we shit on vtubers who needed raids to qualify for tally, now holoen often needs them to tally
>>116134278What the actual fuck?
>>116134237The "pond" is literally just Hololive, vtubing doesnt exist on any level outside of it.
>>116134285myron died for our sins
>>116134298and saved Jailbirds all
>>116134116Good point. Homobeggars operate on a similar level, but the end goal is the same: to get the girls to acknowledge and interact with their Boys.
>>116131153I mean Advent is full of women and Nerissa is clearly craving a man and she doesn't even have high standards for what kind of a man it supposed to be she's desperate. Maybe it's due to feeling isolated in Japan it's hard to make male friends there when you're white, hololive idol and can't speak Japanese for shit holostars seem like a safer option than some random asshole who could leak shit about you online and you wouldn't even know because you don't read runes. In other words Nerissa's reveal is bad as it get's, she's absolutely cucking her fans at least on purely emotional level, homos serve as low-key boyfriend replacement and it's possible she sexted at least with one of them.
>>116134237>58,261: Gigi (Hololive Justice)>19,215: Cecilia (Hololive Justice)>8,368: Bijou (Hololive Advent)>6,165: Baelz (Hololive Promise)>6,153: Bijou (Hololive Advent)>6,153: Nerissa (Hololive Advent)>5,909: Mela (Hololive Asobi Mawaritai)>5,890: Nerissa (Hololive Advent)>5,709: Kyoko (Hololive Asobi Mawaritai)The thing with shitposting with the today is that there is the yesterday.>But they're botted!Remove the hat and Ceci and Gigi are still 5views>But they're special streams not normal!Yeah that's the magic about Hololive, they can just do this over and over again, unlike whatever piece of shit whore you oshi.>But HoloJP did so much better!It's ultimately Holo anyways. Find a better target, Niji already collapsed even in JP. Find a better angle or just cuckpost instead, or shill whatever syphilis ridden 3view you want to infiltrate on this thread.
>>116134330A lot of these points make so much sense when you replace Holostar or Homos with "me" and you realize they're just jerking off with imaginary self inserts
Just checked the numbers, guysEN's averages are pretty low...
Myron Kirk is a coward. You worship a beta faggot.
>>116134331>>116134346
>>116134337>Please watch NijiEN we're not demons in human form please please pleaseIt's funny because then you check Twitter and both Homosisters and FSPsisters love to shit on Niji
>>116134331I'm not sure why you keep trying to drag holoJP here when I've never mentioned HoloJP. I was comparing HoloEN's current numbers to their previous numbers>The thing with shitposting with the today is that there is the yesterday.But the thing is that it doesn't change my point. You are just too defensive that you seem to be blinded to it. Sure, they can still get 5views. It's true that their merch still sell very well. They are getting multiple sololives and those sold out, too. All of that is good, no doubt, but that doesn't change my point: that their bottom line has declined notably compared to before and that isn't a good thiingThe fact that you'd prefer cuckpost over talking about numbers is baffling and it shows you only care about numbers as a tool to shitpost against others with
>>116134331>Remove the hat and Ceci and Gigi are still 5viewsOnly GG, CC peaked at 8.9k
>>116134331The thing with shitposting with yesterday is that you can just look at the day before and you have this>7,046: Bijou (Hololive) | The Legend of Zelda: OoT RemakeAnd that's allIt's dumb to cherry pick to call out cherry picking because you're being obviously dishonest. However the only guy I trust to talk about long-term CCV is the guy that does the line chart because he doesn't cherry pick specific days and just focuses on the overall trend. The usual trends guy who also shows the trends for all the other corpos too. Pretty much everyone is trending down except for HoloJP.
>>116134159doesn't matter she's ID therefore disqualified from the cripple tally
>>116134360Don't reply to the Sukikiranigger
>>116134360>and it shows you only care about numbers as a tool to shitpost against others withOh and I really enjoying doing so. When HoloEN won 101 Golds in a row during summer I relished each and everyone of those because it showed how fucking useless and worthless everyone is.And who is others? What ligger prince or princess could be offended by their awfulness? Who am I offending? Who is your oshi?
>>116133698>>116133711>>116133812>>116133979>>116134010Still doing better than mekpark, more people know about Wildcard than mekpark and more people know what Project Wildcard is supposed to be while the only thing people know about mekpark is that only one will survive while the others get terminated
>>116134358That thread is hilarious.>Luxiem succeeded because they could do whatever they wanted to the female talents. Cover insisted on separating the men and women when Tempus debuted>What are you talking about? Did you want them to force Gura to collab with Vesper or something?>Yes that's exactly what I wantedlmao
>>116134373JP is buffered by first/second army, its like having 10 Gura's streaming almost daily. Every gen they debuted recently, like 80% of the girls are massive shitters, if we go by purely ccv.
>>116134381I don't care. I just remember when >we still used to talk about numbers here outside of shitposting before you newfags started filling this thread
>>116133275I check her twitter on a regular basis and the two tempus follows used to pop up every time you checked her following list, they don't now at least not for me.
Keep dunking on nerissa
I just don't get why nerissa needs male friends when there's like 60 holo girls in japan she could hang out with, and like 10 from her own branch
>>116134388You're telling me a group of 18 year olds with zero streaming experience is going against 4 of the biggest liggers on TwitchAnd winning? (None of the Wildcard streams bas ever gone above 3ķ)
>>116134331>or shill whatever syphilis ridden 3view you want to infiltrate on this thread.I want to shill Nerissa but the meanies in this thread make fun of me :(
>>116134042What gave it away? Is she at least being a cute dork?
>>116134406I went and looked and she's following Essie, which is cute
>>116134042>beat jump kingIf anything she has a claim to the gamer of EN
>>116134420Pretty sure achrora have members that have streamed for 4+ years
>>116134440Achrora has the veterans yeah. It's mekpark that are all newbies.
>>116133811flips can only afford free gemini models
>>116134010Nepo vtuber group. Basically, to invite mousey's, and sometimes other's, vtuber friends.
>>116134418Anon you could have 100 attractive white straight men near white women and still she would choose brown cock
>>116134418This was the exact argument we used that disqualified Kiara from CGDCT and also marked Nerissa as untrustworthy since 2023
>>116134445They're all mekpark.
>>116134418She can't speak nip so the JP connection is not there. And the EN girls are busy with their own shit half the time or don't want to leave their homes unless mandated like Ina
>>116133545From a pure investor perspective cover is more of an ip lending organization with a good 3d studio and bunch of other tech projects. What matters to shareholders is how these tech projects are doing and how much money cover is bringing back in profits after lending back it's ip to contractors. If I as an investor see stuff like homo ranting about false promises I wouldn't pay much attention to it because he is just contractor at the end of the day all I have to ask is get the guy in line else not let him sign another contract.Don't care about mori whining about less en concert don't care about homo crying about yagoo giving false promises don't care about koyori melting down every Friday on twitter. As long as money is pouring in that means my shares would do well in future if cover starts showing signs of weakness I will sell all of it or try to intervene and get my money back
>>116134457Kiara has always been CGDCT
>>116134418This started 2 years before she moved to Japan
>>116133897I hope she and her brainworms learned a valuable lesson lol
holostars kneel to unicorns
>>116134418She recently talked about feeling lonely in Japan because she can't speak Japanese. Also her eggs are screaming and maybe she has baby fever?
>>116133897that's generic Kiaraschizo slop but Koreans should just give this project to Cover it's not like they could only collaborate with indies holos have more reach and actual track record with Vtuber music
>>116134405Oh, please tell me when.Was it>When Nijiniggers pitied Kuzuha against Gura>When Nijiniggers pitied Lazulight against Council>When Nijiniggers pitied Luxiem against Council>When Liggers pitied Kawaii and Mouse against Council>When Ennacuck pitied literally every single VTuber against IRyS>2025, all of itYou picked the losing side, but that's not my fucking fault. I'm not giving you the chance to work the millionth HoloEN le dead angle since December 2020, what I'm going to do is remind you that HoloEN has 3x the average of NijiJP, 9x the average of NijiEN, 5x the average of Phase and VSPO is as worthless as shit under my boot.
>>116134459Sorry I mean Unit B. Such a dumb name kek. I think of them as mekpark because honestly I don't think about achrora at all, their rollout was seriously fumbled.
>>116134477Thats lie, she speak with goldbullet
>>116134440who?rira?
>>116134418holo girls aren't as close as we like to think
>>116134452The only nepo pick I recognize is mousey & michi, who are the others?
Officially sold out. The zaiko bug was really weird but it worked out in the end and Bae can stop worrying about her sales.
>>116134505Hinami and sayana
>>116134486>if we count all the NijiJP shitters at the bottom dragging down the average then we can ignore that NijiJP is magnitudes bigger than HoloEN and competes with HoloJPCan HoloEN get these numbers?
>>116134514wow, did she sell out faster than irys? good job rrat
>>116134514DORRRRYYYAAAAAAAA! get fucked Zaiko
>>116134515experience like vtuber or some nico nico streamers?
>>116134514Glad it worked out but what was the issue? Did all the options really sell out at the same time?
>>116134520Yes but it's not a surprise since she mogs IRyS in music views.
>>116134524Hinami has been a vtuber for a long time, over 5 years I'm pretty sure. Sayana was some asmr vtuber.
>>116134517Do you genuinely believe this? I assume not, no one ever actually posts these who's, considering how comically fake it is.
>>116134514>trusting Cover when they told her it sold outLmao Bae should stop being retarded and believing management trying to cover their own ass for a fuck-up, you'll see when the actual live happens
>>116134517Gigi beat three of these streams with the Worlds watchalong and the office guy is a raging shitter, his next stream peaked at 5k
>>116134514nah I don't buy it was just a bug when the site still hasn't updated
>>116134198>>116134224Thank you Shiori for buying a little more time for Gigi. Maybe they're still friends after all
>>116134542Wait do you actually think HoloEN is bigger than NijiJP? I thought you were just shitposting. They hold concerts in venues bigger than what any EN can dream of.>>116134550So? Stream content matters and Gigi is also a raging shitter. She just had a stream that peaked at 2.8k this week.
>>116134520Her venue is much smaller
>>116133784She was doing better before her move to Japan she actually streamed (even if mostly short 2 hours Nerissa standard it was regular and she tried playing games) she had real stories to tell in zatsu when now it's constantly "I have nothing to talk about" even if she supposedly hangs out with holos all the time irl and she didn't claim to be busy with something all the fucking time either when we hardly ever see anything released to justify it clearly something's not right.
Reminder that this thread thinks Sugita, Nakamura etc are better and more acceptable than Connor, Joey and Gigguk when they literally do disgusting shit like this.
>>116134517>if you ignore 95% of NijiJP and everything suspicious about their numbersIf my mum had wheels she’d be a bicycle
>>116134586Your mum is the town bicycle and she enjoys it.
>>116134565Yeah if you get a grand total of one (1) 5view streams in 3 months and then you get 21k with Ocarina of Time then it's easier to assume Riku is wasting money on you
>>116134583this thread is right
>>116134577nerissa also kinda fucked up by getting 2 cats in japan hoping that would fix her loneliness but that has only further trapped her in japan
>>116134514If she didn't notice the bug for 4 days, I don't think she was worrying about it very much
>>116134565They also can't sell for shit and have to pull shit like get concert tickets if you buy an album then we can say our album is a successThen there is the fact that Kuzufag gets dogwalked by Advent every second day
>>116134565I dunno about their concerts, but they always appear sus whenever anything is posted about them here. Literally no one discusses anything about them, its like North Korea. Their stream numbers are obvious botshitted for years.
>>116134514That was a really really weird bug though to be honest. I don't think I've ever seen a holo experience it but good for Bae. Also it seems like she sold out in 4 days right? that's really fast
>>116134598Nope. Try again. Are you sure you're not talking about Gigi?
AUTOFISTERGODS
>>116134610She definitely was. Bae is a self-proclaimed disassociater for things that give her stress and she pretends they don't exist
>>116134629>the CC birthday week is going to be all collabsOH NO NO NO NO AHAHAHAHA
>>116134629
>>116134629yay more gigi and kyoko and takogrem
>>116133992Would you think she wants to redesign her model? That sounds like retarded idea sexy model was big part of why she was successful at all and she can voice it in a way that's matching it's sexiness Vtubers can get away with a lot just by doing that, Gura is a prime example.What comes to mind is that she might be planning to end her Japan adventure and move back to states soon and after that it doesn't make much sense to stay in hololive or at least it's a good, natural ending point to close this chapter of her life. Clearly she doesn't plan to be idol or unicorn-friendly in her indie career, perhaps she doesn't even want to be a streamer.
>>116134629wait where's Shattered Legends?
>>116134618God this is so funnyAnd this is without the cheap shot, this fag is at 900k despite having streamed for like 10 years
Su loredrop
>>116134514>dramafags shitting up the thread for days about Cover sabotaging Bae were wrong againevery time
>>116134675Isn’t that on some other streaming platform?
>>116134680900k subs is pretty good. None of the rest of EN will reach that in the next 10 years if they even last that long.
>>116134675That shit is prerecorded and is 6 hours(?) after the autofister collab so she raid into it.
playing dark souls 3 because it's her wife's birthday yummy
>>116134576It's not "much" smaller. IRyS had 3,767 seats vs Bae's 3,190
>>116134690actually I think the only person who cared about that was a brrat and he was just worried the third party fucked up
>>116134543Why would Cover try and Sabotage Bae for no reason when the fuckup was on Zaiko's behalf? are you retarded?
>>116134708The difference between 1500 limited stock and 2000 limited stock was more than an order of magnitude in time to sell out600 fewer seats is actually "much" smaller
>>116134683I love Su because she's legit young, and fresh and bold
>>116134708I think IRyS pretty much confirmed that her venue was 5k seats instead of 3.7k in her interview
>>116134739Source?
>>116133883It goes way deeper than that. Whole of 2025 she said she was cooking and making stuff for us. She couldn't stream because she was tired of all the BTS stuff she was doing.>i'm doing this for us JailbirdsWhole year defend Nerissa's anthics and abandonment because she was busy for us. Well that was a fucking lie. She was making fucking powerpoints for the homos, while she couldn't even bother to make fucking thumbnails or schedules. Myron rightfully called her out on her BS and she continued manupulating everybody>i am working hard, saying this doesn't motivate me at allShe has been lying to us for all this time and still acts as if she is a saint
>>116134739That's impossible because the venue doesn't allow for the 5k seat configuration
>>116134396I still remember the day i completely dropped Niji EN. I used to watch them on the side, Luxiem debut, figured I'd just ignore them. Right after that during a Bigfoot collab fucking Vox just jumps into discord. I just closed the tab and unfollowed all of them and never watched again.
>all this shitting on Nerissa when she doesn't even play FPS
>>116134629I'll miss her once the homos finally reclaim her. Enjoy her while you can
>>116134690It actually reasonable for concerning this time
>>116134723>he doesn't know Japanese companies will always try to cover their own ass and the ass of other Japanese companies even if it fucks over the talentThey fucked up, Zaiko fucked up, they're lying to Bae instead of telling the truth because they want to save face, look it up, it's a Chink thing
It really says something if autofister is the only thing EN has to offer anymore
>>116134703I'm assuming it to backseat her like she did Raora?
>>116134792>chink>japanesebro
>>116134690to be fair outside of Kiaraschizo coming in to do his dumb Kiara vs Bae bullshit, it was mostly shitting on Zaiko and I still genuinely believe this would have been solved way later without the help of /#/ and the Heimin.
>>116134760I actually got into vtubers thanks to NijiEN males.I don't remember how I ended up watching mostly Holo instead.
>>116134144there's also that time when Flayon was talking about some game stuffs then someone mention he should try asking Biboo about it, to which he heavily implied he has No direct communication/contact with her so he'll likely try to ask Shiori to get her to ask Biboo about it, but without ever telling that the question came from him,
>>116134477Then why she dropped Kiara? They've used to hang out on discord for hours almost everyday and it stopped around the time of Advent first JP arc, Kiara of course complained about it at the time so it was clearly one-sided and without any clear drama behind it, Nerissa didn't have to talk with some random homo about idol culture, Kiara never cared about Naruto so she might need Jutard for that or you know one of the multiple fujos in the branch oh and apparently Fuwamoco mentioned they've seen Nerissa's irl friends randomly while out so bitch is clearly not lonely she hangs out with non-holos all the time and never talks about what they do nothing about this adds up. Also remember when Fauna had her puddle arc and acted all lonely and miserable? We know she was already with orc at the time never fall for the same lies.
>>116134792I don't think Cover has ever done this
EOS soon
>>116134605she's not lonely that's bullshit
>>116134840he's just upset his rrat (heh) died
>>116134683did you not watch Gigi's 3d live?
>>116134564Shiori probably just got jealous because she's genuinely obsessed with SAARyon but the more important part here is that this implies Gigi either ignores Homostars, or they have no direct communication or contact with her.. which basically ruins what Jurard said recently.
>>116134847lonely=needs cock
>CC DS3Nice, her favorit->GigiAnd it's ruined
>>116134852No, I skipped it because I got pissed off by the crossdressing men skit in TAN.
>>116134860yes, mine.
>>116134867just watch Su's part then you retarded schizo
birgit status?
>>116134879Chill out grem, I'll do just that.
>>116134863Like what's even the point at least play an actual multiplayer game or finish Heavy Rain, why does she insist on these lazy back seat streams?
Oh, BTW, about Bae's ticket saleshttps://x.com/hakosbaelz/status/2120047322432508283She just announced (confirmed?) that they sold out. Regardless whatever happened with the "Sale Ended" -> "Sold out" matter, we at least know that by now, Bae's sololive is confirmed to be S/O
>>116134897Gee I wonder what shipfaggot wrote that
>>116134849This is something should be concern but rrat about Cover lying to Bae is too much.
>>116134903Or Zaiko found out they fucked up and just pretended it sold out
>>116134912calm down birgit orb is a nice guy
>>116134916>This is something should be concernyes and kudos for reporting it
>>116134924Nigga give up
Nerissa didn't deserved the Golden Ticketshe's a fake holo
>>116134903Congratulation
>>116134924You think Zaiko or Cover would've preferred losing money over admitting to some innocent fuckup when apologizing is part of nips' culture?
>>116134903scroll up
>>116134935uh oh failed indie melty
>>116134583Sugita and Nakamura are absolutely better and more acceptable than ecelebs like those three
>>116134943he wants to hate Cover SO bad
>>116134629yay
>>116134943This and also the fact that if Zaiko tried to sweep this under the rug, they would get sued by Cover
>>116134683Gigi and Su have been BL buddies for months
>>116134946Yeah, I noticed after posting. Didn't see that post and all those replies earlier because Ctrl F didn't catch it (no twitter link).Saw anon's post too late (just like how I posted Bae's tweet too late), but eh...
>>116134931Not the cucked bean loser, just an otomo real tired of Ceci barely getting by with such low effort content while giving her all to projects. A collab is fine, but the fucking retarded mindset she goes into when she collabs with Gigi is annoying to see cheered on for the sake of a damn ship
>>116134846not even close, even with an Area15 banner/event, holodori has still made almost 4 million USD in its first 10 days this month
>>116134846But enough about Nikke giving everyone an excuse to quit the game right after finishing the main story
>>116134285Myron was a broken clock, was wrong 23 times a day, right one time.
>>116134933You're welcome
>>116134846No Gacha that makes the top 10 of sensor tower is ever going EOS
>>116134956Trash Taste never made BL crap that holos schlick off too while listening.
TT is only being defended because of CR
In honor of Bae's sololive let me post sexy Rrat
>>116134583I know right? Sugita is a fking jap creep. All of these seiyuus are sex pesto.
>>116135029
>>116135037Are you sure?
>>116134986I was wondering why CC was extra retarded and repetitive in the latest stream. She must've been talking to Gigi to set up the collab.
>>116135033I think only sexpest are HomoEN
Kojima
>>116135043
>>116134965Remember this?https://x.com/nijisanji_app/status/1890596947922481303【Apology Regarding the 1st LIVE of Hyakuman-tenbara Salome and Implementation of Additional Ticket Sales】In this event, it has been discovered that a significant number of viewing tickets, which were reported as sold out by Rakuten Ticket Co., Ltd.—the company to which we entrusted ticket sales—were actually unsold.Below, we will explain the details of the incident and our response policy.Regarding the ticket sales for the hall event "Hyakuman-tenbara Salome 1st LIVE 'My Fair Lady'" (hereinafter referred to as "this event"), despite receiving a report from Rakuten Ticket Co., Ltd. stating that "viewing tickets are sold out," it was revealed on February 14, 2025 (Friday) that a considerable number of tickets remained unsold due to an inventory setting error by Rakuten Ticket Co., Ltd. (hereinafter referred to as "this incident").To those customers who were unsuccessful in the comprehensive and individual fan club priority lottery or the Rakuten Ticket priority lottery application due to this incident (hereinafter referred to as "affected individuals"), we extend our deepest apologies through this notice.Additionally, for tickets in obstructed view seats, we will implement upgrades to general seats.In response to this situation, we will urgently conduct additional sales of viewing tickets as outlined below. We sincerely regret the timing, as the event date is fast approaching, but we eagerly look forward to your participation.*For affected individuals, Rakuten Ticket Co., Ltd. will separately send guidance to the email addresses you registered.
>>116134853>maybe 4 collabs in the whole year>obsessedDamn I guess she's basically elbow deep in Zeta then.
>>116135071remember Grim era? where Salabot had like 90k ccv every stream, and luxifags had 60k
>>116134853We have proof the homos hang out /here/ or at least on this board, and they aren’t blind to what niggers say on twitter, why wouldn’t they just say random shit just to piss of their biggest antis and schizos, while also trafficking (albeit negative) interactions and mindshare towards their irrelevant asses? Any press is good press. And It’s not like they have anything to lose or will face any repercussions for lying. What? Are the girls going to call them out? Will Cover reprimand them? I don’t think so.
>>116135077you want to mad so bad you aren't even reading it
>>116135077>Salabot had like 90k ccv every streamThat lasted less than 1 month. In fact it was only a few weeks.
>>116135071Yeah but I'm placing trust in cover. I'm sure they confirmed with the proper channels that the tickets are sold out
>>116135071That showed that while errors might happen, nips won't try to hide it, though
>>116135022TT guys are way more popular and rich as well
>>116135099TT guys are all gigachads. Anyone trying to play them down is jealous.
>>116135071.....................Oh shit.......
on page 10 wtih image limit hit and there's no other /#/ thread up, very rare
Wish i have money and blow up bae concert
Surprisingly good comment on Altare's rant>I want to preface this by saying i really sympathize with the plight of the Stars boys. I also like Yagoo as CEO very much and hope he continues for a long time.>But i just chuckle a little at the thought of going towards the management/Yagoo for inspiration regarding direction or content because if you ask the hololive side, there is this (quite well deserved) sentiment that Cover management initiatives have a very high miss rate.>Its not just fans who think that because even Marine herself said it not too long ago in her drunk talk with Pekora. Management only dare to do idol projects because they have never been successful in anything else. Source - shortened for brevity but that's what she basically said>From things like the floundering Sakura Miko project , to neglecting Suisei and potentially squandering one of the biggest talent in Vtubing if not for A-chan's intervention, isolating IRyS in Project Hope, whatever was supposed to happen with Omega are things that most people know.>Even from the very early days some talents admitted they were confused about the directions that were given to them. Going from video style, to livestreaming, to forming gamers ,and then suddenly they are idols. Its pretty clear that even the hololive side were built without Cover having any clear direction. HoloEarth is the latest example of directionless project that flopped.>It was through the talents perseverance, ingenuity, talent, and of course luck that they boomed. And after that, Cover/Yagoo absolutely did a good job of supporting and enabling them. I believe one thing they have been doing more and more to great effect recently is enabling talent-led projects. Their big successes of recent years like TCG and HoloDori are also in collaboration with existing companies who have been there and done that. They learnt that they have a very strong IP backed with talented performers so they should lean towards working with people who know what they are doing.>So yea i absolutely like Yagoo because from where I am as viewer/customer/fans he seems like a good person who is determined to try his best to support his talents. And he is not too proud to admit his mistakes and willing to pivot and learn from it. They even willingly let Suisei essentially form her own independent office for various reasons even if it cost them short term revenue.>But his (and his management) track record is less than stellar to be the person you turn to when looking for spark/direction in idea. In time maybe they will learn and improve. The industry is still very young after all so much failure is expected.>But for now I believe success has to come (initially) from the talents themselves (or through stroke of luck) and then I believe Cover will help them capitalize.
>ID gold againwhat went wrong with HoloEN?Serious replies only
>>116135129>But for now I believe success has to come (initially) from the talents themselves (or through stroke of luck) and then I believe Cover will help them capitalize.Every Vsinger became more popular WITHOUT Cover managing them directly
>>116134846Now let's see android and apple numbers...
>>116135133I'll be curious to see how the different tallyanons classify Kaela's stream. Colombian adds them as "Honorable Mentions" that don't factor into the podium.
>>116135133>>116135133The Merge happnedAt first, no one helped the Indonesian side muvh except Biboo. After the wall between branches was destroyed, raidding became much easier.
>>116135133And this is the core of "merging branches" to break down barriers between them, allowing aid from Japan to other sides to flow efficiently without obstruction. This is part of Amane Kanata's last wish as well.To make this happend, Yagoo must take charge
>>116135129It's weird (or maybe it's just me), but he's starting to talk like Astel did before they were downsized.
>>116135174IRyS might have given ID the most raids due to timeslot
>>116135168There's no such thing as honorable mentionsIDs have never been in the EN tally. There was the gaijin tally created specifically for this and that stopped being posted once Kobo fell off. The fact that they are even considered for discussion in the "EN" tally shows how much this thread has fallen off.
>>116135203>>116135205Previously, cross-branch competition was very strong, partly due to internal competition within Cover but all of that is now resolved.> All Evil ends with "her"
>>116135205It's just a newfag who doesn't understand thread culture
>>116135226>>116135205But you're counting Kyoko but not Holo Indonesia, which streams in English mainly?
>>116135166you can't actually
>>116135240He does, I wouldn't.
I will be watching Bae's sololive
>image limit reached
>>116135240NTA, but they have different target audience
>>116135247on-site or streaming?
>>116135240Kyoko is not the first JP to stream in English and they never used to be on the EN tally either. But the tally guy backed himself into a corner with the Meloco English thing when we just used to include those streams, slap a Chinese flag on the tally, and laugh at them and call it a day.
>>116135258I've had some interesting numbers to post for a while but someone wasted all the slots...
>>116135265Why would Kyoko's English streams have a different target audience from Kaela's English streams?
>>116135273If you make the next thread and link it people will move over.
>>116135037Why are you posting young hercules?
>>116135268"Streaming"
>>116135282not that impatient. rather wait for thread to die naturally
>>116135129both holostars and their fans are hololive antis
>>116135168Truth be told I used to look forward to en tally but the guy managing the tally has his own biased rules for it and now whenever I see his tally I don't even bother checking out who won the months tally or who is ahead today. It's pretty much useless if he is filtering out people. the tally he makes has no value whatsoever
>>116135129anybody who watches hololive understand just how retarded these creatures aretoo bad some talents are empowering them and refuse to accept that they fucking hate hololive and their success
>>116135303Agreed
>1000 postsqrd?
>>116135310dead board
>>116133640flips really love shipping them together>>116133832who's milgur?
>>116135303It's just for numberfagging but a biased tally is not good.
>>116135309all tallies are useless.
>>116135310homos lostered
Nerissa: Tavi look! That guy on X is crashing out over Liz again. Maybe I'll retweet some BloodRaven fanart later Octavio: Haha what a silly boy. Hey take care of it again? Nerissa: Jeez you're so energetic *mwah mwah lick slurp kiss* Nerissa: By the way, I'm going to ask Christian for the Birdbrain cover, if it's alright with you Octavio: Sure, "I'm busy" anyway *chuckle* Nerissa: Hello?! Don't tease me!
>>116135129>But for now I believe success has to come (initially) from the talents themselves (or through stroke of luck) and then I believe Cover will help them capitalize.Not even that, they just need to have a clear idea themselves of what they want to do and are interested in. Raden wasn't an immediate massive museum hit or anything. What do the homos actually want to do? What do they envision themselves being? If they have no vision for who they want to be in 3 years' time how can they demand management to give them one? Granted, at this point it's probably too late to right the ship for them no matter what they try, but the ones at the most fault for "wasting" their time are themselves.
>>116135274Kyoko's English streams target English speaking (Western) fansKaela's English streams target English speaking Indo fansTheir usual starting time for those solo streams is a good indicator, among several others
>>116135303The problem is he doesn't realize the tally is never about winning. Using numbers for that purpose was what the sisters did, not us back thenHe numberfags to be part of the winning team, not for the sake of numbers or genuine discussion
Whatever they do it's too late for "holostars" as a brand. They had their chance with Tempus to carve their own niche but pretty much self destructed on their own. All I see is a dead branch walking.
>>116135343>English speaking Indo fansThis is so bullshit because we use Bahasa
>>116135336They’ve been spoon-fed by Cover so much that they probably don't even know it themselves. The only one who found his own way is the Clown with his IRL thing with NotMagni
>>116135362Are you using Bahasa right now?What's Bahasa?
>>116135316Nobody even watches chuubas anymore
>>116135375native's Indonesian language
>>116135303Tallies died the moment vstats and vrabi can't filter out the engine so even the blatant Z/V whatever it is called bot graphs was accepted.The time when NijiEN was at their peak was fun numberfagging since they filter those blatant bot graphs so we can have fun pointing those out.Nowadays all are just bias numberfagging and people can't accept truths.
>>116135388Oh, I thought it was a mix of Indonesian and English
>>116135351Even if you try to ingrain this into him. The guy will just call you a nijisister
>>116135334>>116135323
Fuck it Let listen Butathunder !!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GozEv0IruEEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GozEv0IruEEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GozEv0IruEE
>>116135323What happened?
>>116135362The younger ones from well-off families use English. We see examples of this in Reine or Zeta among holoID, too
Kiara...
>>116135424>Most Indonesian don’t. But many younger generation from middle to high income families do.>The reason is most likely that being proficient and fluent in English will land them a good job with good experience, good salary and of course, giving face to their family.>So that is why despite being less fluent themselves, the young parents are pushing their children to speak English even at home.>For the majorities, they only mix English and Indonesian, and we call it Bahasa Gado-Gado.
>>116134232She probably ignores him in the discord/dm and this is why he pushed that move.Idk how long he can keep going though, sooner or later if he keeps acting like that Shiori will drop him like every other girl did.
>>116135362>we use Bahasayou say "we" but isn't it only foreigners that call the language just "bahasa" instead of "bahasa Indonesia" since the word bahasa just means "language" so it's weird to say "we use language"
>>116135432...won
>>116135450he's using the term on a foreign board, I don't see any issue with that
>>116135424SEA is multi language user
>>116135437Well in my case is Nihongo instead
>>116133673Flips have a hetship culture that's usually applied to celebrities there. It's called Love Team.
>>116135129Can I be cruel? holostar vs hololive talents is a microcosm of why so many companies prefer to hire women nowadays. Men are borderline zombies nowadays, at least in corpo spaces.
>Niji has messed up many times and in multiple ways, this much is true, but there is no evidence to suggest malice or ill intent (especially when incompetence explains those mistakes much better). This is just a rrat made up by antis.>Niji and Holostars always had good relationship, to the point that they collab more often than Hololive (girls) and Holostars. I don't understand why would you bring up rrats and badmouth Niji here.
I'm reading through the thread, I notice that the Vietnamese guy is a fucking beggar, it's pretty funny.
>>116135318millie x fulgur, it was a nijiEN ship from back when fulgur was still there
>I'll be honest while you are right that they did try its kind of hard to give points for incompetent attempts.I don't like when people cite those streams Astel did and clearly only take his criticisms of the boys and ignore everything else (while also making it sound worse). Astel did mention that some of the boys as being a bit complacent but he never did call them lazy. He's praised how hard the boys work too and in those streams he's also criticized cover heavily for various things like not taking advice, not knowing how to advertise to women, not keeping up with their advertising for women when it did work, providing no direction, not printing enough merch when it was doing well, etc. He was just as critical if not more so of Cover. Its a consistent thing.>One can highlight the the various advertisements but a lot of it was just kinda stupid and more tacky than helpful. Billboards are more or less whatever but bus advertising, Limo wraps, and subway ads are kinda stupid to do for streamers in general let alone anime-based streamers. Its one thing if they're already well established and have some manner of celebrity status to justify but they weren't so it just came across as weird. Its not like the boys asked for that. Take an add in a girls magazine or something...its cheaper and smarter.>The Twitch Takeover was not just about Holostars at all but was also a little poorly timed given Vtuber fans were not exactly happy with Twitch. HLZNTL would have only worked if they properly cultivated a culture of unity before then but they didn't and combined with certain statements made during the event that whole thing only did far more damage to the Holostars.>The collabs did tend to do well and likely did contribute to how long they've gone while other things listed were just kinda part and parcel to the business model for good or ill. The TV appearance was a little late.>Of course Cover didn't do nothing, but they've been fairly incompetent and have managed to help and hurt the boys in various ways. There are indeed some things they can't really do anything about like a hostile environment (Stars couldn't do anything either, sometimes they just get blamed for things), talents leaving, outside events, changing economy, and luck itself but plenty of ways they could have done better...they didn't and it kind of started frame one.>Its not all on Cover, no, but its definitely not all on the boys either. Its just a regrettable situation.>And thats just JP.... nothing has ever pointed to the EN boys being lazy or complacent if anything? Just the opposite.
>>116135129Any argument he has about having no direction falls apart when you remember one of the JP homos tried to actually do things as a branch (group songs, 3D collabs, etc) but it all fell apart because the rest just didn't want to participate.The homos are lazy and they won't do anything unless the company hands it to them on a silver platter where they can put in the minimum effort (like how the latest homoEN concert was literally just their voices over shitty MMD dances)
>10 hour old thread>image limit fucking reached just nuke this board already
>>116135544Millie even dedicated a video for him during his graduation stream. Oh, and she once raided into his current incarnation in one of her streams in October.
>>116135553there will be no grand firework of destruction and devastationonly a slow withering away into irrelevancy
>>116135577Nah We good
>>116135553I moved to towa and found my people
Maybe Gold to dayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WUK7l5adOghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WUK7l5adOghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WUK7l5adOg
What is 3 way superchat?
>>116135505>but there is no evidence to suggest maliceAre all the Nijifag trapped in Aizen's Kyoka Suigetsu?
>>116135432mogged and lost...
>>116135759>>116135452
TSUZURI ACE
>>116135776ermmm that's gigi
KOSEKI BI[SPOILER]BOT[/SPOILER]
>>116135800AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
>>116135800LMAO
imagine losing in a game and then seeing five japanese women whooped your ass
>>116135800>KOSEKI BI[SPOILER]BOOCUTE[/SPOILER]Holy BASED
>>116135800>Cant even shitpost properly
>>116135800KEKKK
Birgit is having another meltdown in the other thread what did you guys do to him
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OrDic721VM25k dorrryyyyaaaaaaaa
>>116135572>Oh, and she once raided into his current incarnation in one of her streams in October.kek did she really?
