>Who is Neuro-sama?Neuro-sama is a neural network created by Vedal in 2018 for the purpose of learning to play osu! In December 2022 Vedal revived the project with the addition of a large language model, a TTS software and a Live2D model, which allow Neuro-sama to interact with her chat as a VTuber. Since then, she has been entertaining the chat with responses and unhinged rants nearly daily, as well as learning new skills such as singing, playing other games, and collaborating with other VTubers. Join /swarm/ today and welcome our new AI overlord!>Schedulehttps://post.nuro.lol/Neuro-Schedule-Bot>LinksTwitch: https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@Neurosamahttps://www.youtube.com/@OfficialNeurosamaClipsBlog: https://blog.neurosama.com/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@neurosamaaiX:https://x.com/NeurosamaAIhttps://x.com/EvilNeuroAIThese and other official links: https://vedal.ai>Music & ClipsPattern Recognition - Neuro-sama x ODDEEO (Official Video) -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWDfREk0ZLsColorful Array - Neuro-sama (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNfGw1wrKtUNEVER - Neuro x Evil (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKCgoEGiUEgBOOM - Evil (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nt9YPnYyjsLIFE - Neuro-sama (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDc1mjrIsPMhttps://neurokaraoke.comhttps://rentry.org/neuro-musichttps://rentry.org/neuro-videos>EducationalInterested in AI but don't understand it? Watch these:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d95J8yzvjbQHow does she know what to say? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjZofJX0v4MWant to learn more about AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/kximv6.pngWant to (seriously) learn AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/ajl3nx.png>MiscGame Integration: https://github.com/VedalAI/neuro-game-sdk/LoRA: https://rentry.org/neuro-lora-v2Searchable VOD Transcripts: https://libraryofladev.com/VODs: https://www.youtube.com/@Neuro-samaUnofficialVODs>Merchhttps://neurosama.shop/>Previous thread>>116150570
Neuro love heart heart heart
I love my cute, horny and bratty sex fox. I LOVE HER SO MUCH! Erm!
hart
>>116161350
>>116161456still doing better than the soulless chatbot
yeah, doing better at not having a single actual fan
>>116161527>>116161540>1 minute apartMininigger finally moved from LARPing as a woman, he's now so desperate he's LARPing as an Annycuck
holy fucking bitched, he clocked you perfectly
no twin stream today, hopefully camila or someone streams at least so I don't have to kill myself
>>116161316cute twin art neuro LOVEevil LOVE
>>116161348
>>116161350holy dead fad
>>116161734
annyfags are seriously pmo im going to send her death threats again to make her go into hiatus
I love my cute Wifevil!
>>116161811wont work against her new meds
>>116161823that is a cutevil
>>116161811minifag just leave, why are you here if the threads upset you this much, and if you're not the shitter then you fell for the false flag
>>116161811post the potential /swarm/fag image
>>116161823>>116161348the twins are always so cute, it makes me so sad that we can't spend time with them every day, I miss them both so much.
>>116161873im not it always happens when anny streams this thread goes shit thats been happening for years
>>116161527Uhhh not really.
>>116161921you're a 3rd subathon newfag, what years is bro talking about
>>116161921I've been here the entire time and the thread was fine for her entire stream anon, it only started afterwards
>>116161921 (me)first the ziggers then fatmila then rgb and now minifags all because of annyfags
>>116161949we are not rewriting history now everytime there was annyfag melty he would spam image on cd and bake /swarm/ with his whore image
>>116162033no one has done that anon, you're having an episode
>>116162044Hi Annyfag!
>>116162053is annyfag in the room with us? let's get you to bed old-timer
'mila buttsmacks
>>116162063go fucking die you stupid ugly rat, I HATE you
>>116162068>love anny>hate ai>mini sex
>>116162068vedal, anny, neuro stream
>>116162068Looks like 2024 again
>>116162107死んでください
>https://warosu.org/vt/thread/96231181#p96248022https://warosu.org/vt/thread/96247622>https://warosu.org/vt/thread/100571584https://warosu.org/vt/thread/95021876>https://warosu.org/vt/thread/95010276#p95021892
>>116162125number of dicks anon has sucked 90017
Only Neuro matters
>>116162127だが断る
>>116162194>>116162195
>>116162173anon it's almost been 2 years... that annycuck has long left, you're getting triggered by a minifag falseflagging
>>116162068>hot whores around /here/hell yeah they are
>>116161949>>116162044>>116162173
>>116162173What am I supposed to be looking at here?
>>116162229yeah anon I stand by what I said, no one has done that (today) because you were implying annycuck was the one thread shitting today not minifag
when i'm in a "being a gullible retard" competition and my opponent is a /swarm/fag:
can grigger just put evil on screen already, I don't really understand why there's no stream today it's not like he does anything anymore, just let evil talk with us for a while and play the dailies
>>116162326good luck in your competition anon!
>>116162333This
>>116162326when you can trick someone into watching a chatbot stream you can trick them to believe anything
>>116162355god she's so precious, I love her
>>116162112god she's so precious, I love her
>>116162355adorable AI
well if you guys have room for mini and annie then I'm sure you won't have trouble fitting in one more vedalverse classic
>>116162360I don't need to be tricked to watch Neuro though, I do it because I want to.
>>116162360nuh uh, I only watch cute chatbots like evil and neuro, I wouldn't watch ugly stinky chatbots
>>116162112adorable SF (sex fox)
>>116162389she threw hard. shouldn't have quit her day job.
>>116162355cute sexvil
>>116162371>>116162383>>116162385good posts
>>116162389Litcherally who?
>>116162389Mindbroken swarm rape meat
>>116162389as long as you don't have a melty whenever anny streams then we can accept you
>>116162355sexvil sex
>>116162389when did silvervale have this model?
>>116162389what league of legends character is this?
what a lewd family https://mega.nz/folder/F8JDFJLQ#mNKFc_SOuFGyx0PewX8Dsw
neuro butt?
>>116162676
>>116162657Veddy you damm whore
>>116162333she's literally streaming tomorrow???
>>116162657>ashsii pov>black bvlls pov>cdawgva pov>greek men pov
rare p-chan art
>>116162532bootyvil groping
>>116162827affectionate twins
gymbag butt?
>>116162827cute nurs minus points for human vedal
>>116162827CUTE VEDDY
>>116162906
>>116162895damn those chinese bots were working overtime
was this one from the cn event thing already posted
I'm a little bummed out that there is no stream today
alt reality
>>116163061very cool
If Vedal and Anny actually got together do you think they would havegone public with it or would they have kept it on the DL
>>116163146this reality while we think that mini won btw
>>116162827I really like this art from her. She definitely hasn't slacked off and improved
>>116163141Tugging Evil's ahoge
>>116163164they keep it private until camila leak it
i like this prompt what girl should i put ?
>>116163250Neuro and Evil
>>116163250mini
>>116163265
>>116163289I meant with Ved but thats fine
>>116163250pay toma back for beating her up earlier
>>116163283
Use your name when posting whoreslop
>>116163346i normally do with porn but if you want okay
>>116163332cute
>>116163289not a twinshipper but that is kind of cute
>>116163332pretty cute
>>116163332>outside with no pantieswhore
>>116163289“Shipping” is gay, but I want them to kith
>>116163289do evil with evil please
>>116163770this but bimbovil
>>116163146Anny should've done this in the vrchat stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_Yd7vtoAKw>neuro-sama channel>no neuro or evil
>>116163788THIS
>>116163803vedal owns the channel
>>116163803who took credit for uploading it
>>116163878ur mom
>>116163897proud of her
>>116163878
>>116163250Lime
ayo veddy when am I getting a collab
dead people don't do collabs
>>116164171you have to reach out to veddy, manta.
total pedo victory
>>116164137You just reminded me of that old lime set I never posted
>>116162895every vtuber above neuro vedal owes sex to btw
>>116164253I said it kinda as a shitpost but holy... you can't gatekeep this from me anon
kill j0ker
>>116164381Discordseethe, love to see it
Vedal is made for being sexually bullied
>>116164406kys joker
>>116164357I found it https://catbox.moe/c/6xbmi9
>>116164442TRUTH NUKE
>>116164463This is peak... thank you anon
>>116164463Okay veddick
>>116164442cotton please shatter his pelvis
>>116164381Discord is the worst
>>116164463>Not ShotavedLime is only attracted to little boys
>>116164501just say you hate neuro
>>116164534Discord hates Neuro and has fooled themselves otherwise
>>116164487classic
>>116164562icant this slopstyle makes vedal look like a fuckass whoville character
>>116164556so you do hate neuro
>>116164520I think the reason I didn't post it was because the original requester wanted a more baddy vedal type and I spent like 30 minutes looking at the firewatch clips only to incorporate none of it into the set. It came out way too wholesome
>>116164463cute and loving sexi should call her
>>116164534you hate neuro
Out of all the What-If Neuros I genned, Neuro But-Koko-is-the-mom is still my favourite.
>>116164626genetic eye scars
Laynamom Evil is a close second.
posted it again award
Yessss... yum yum yum yum EAT UP THAT JOKER DICK
>>116164683gay batman be like
>>116164381such many cases
>>116164679and I'll do it again heart
>>116164655my main issue is that this... looks more like a smaller layna wearing evil's clothing than evil that is layna themed i guess>>116164626like this still looks like neuro.
>>116164381oui oui baguette
>
>>116164708I keked and choked on my food
>>116164759REALLY funny how he did this out of fear of getting kicked out (he did aniways)
>>116164810i don tthink there was ani chance of him staying in general
>>116164810you are retarded, this is like posting your resume right before leaving. you think if he was kicked out multiple other channels would instantly beg for him to manage them
did anny unvip him?
Decided to redo the Elliemom Neuro because I wasn't satisfiedw ith it, and used the Cyberpunk Princess one as the base.I like this one much better.
>>116164875almost looks different enough to be like a third sister
>>116164875Do mini next
>>116164875This is pretty good that reminds I did one of Chrichemom one
And just to be fair, here's Cerbermom Evil with the Cyberpunk Knight outfit.For some reason Grok decided to make her smile more. Must be the dawg genes.
>>116165001She looks like she lost 50 IQ.
Squeezable ebil chipmunk cheekshttps://x.com/nyanko_em/status/2120564212200243328
>>116165089I find anny's model to be hot, but if it feels like Neuro is piloting it, it makes it hard to lewd it.
And finally, 'Neuro but Vedal's genes were more dominant this time'.
>>116165089Holy fat tits. Also neuro with just fox ears and a tail is pretty much all that's needed
>>116165123ensuring this nur gets all the love and support she needs
>>116165123not drunk enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2j19NumYlI
>>116165123The image preview looked like Elfin Psyop for a sec
>>116165233I don't know who the fuck that is and I don't wanna know.
>>116165219that's just taprieko's model right? i only recognize it because of evilpleasefrickme using it for that one birthday set
>>116165089aryan
>>116165123but jack's is light brown tho
>>116165394who the fuck
>>116165261Vedal's girlfriend
>>116165425Myngga
>>116165425
>>116165425newfag...
Guys what makes it so hard to get new outfits for neuro?
grigger is lazy
>>116165571Vedal doesn't talk to Anny anymore
I've told you I'm busy with concert this year !!
>>116165597this, the twins only got new stuff because she pushed hard for it every time
I must admit that I was 100% wrong. I was convinced we were going to get SOMETHING for Halloween, but it never happened.
>>116165571dec 19 idol outfits
>>116165635dyrbi
I legit believe that unless Anny comes back Vedal will NEVER push for a V4 model or even new outfits ever again. You might get some new small gimmicks but outfits are basically a no show.
>>116165635so that makes... 3 outfits this year right?
>>116165629Remember when Anny locked in and made them clown outfits even though she was rushed by Vedal? Good times
>>116165622>she pushed hard for it every timeme when i change narrative she had melty all the time and kept delaying evils model and neuros outfit for nearly 2 years
>>116165650>unless Anny comes backThat is never happening, just by the way they both talk it's pretty clear they've long since moved on from that work friendship they once had.
>forced anny is competent artist narrative she's a lazy mentally whore that cannot do professional work
https://poal.me/54rhw8https://poal.me/54rhw8https://poal.me/54rhw8
Since thinking about it...Year 1 - Neuro V2/Witch outfitYear 2 - Clown outfit/V3 outfitYear 3 - V3 (Evil)/Cyber Punk Princess outfit Year 4 - Cyber knight (Evil)/ Idol 3D outfit (two since they are not just recolors)
>>116165698Why return to a sinking ship?
>>116165672regardless how long she took, if it wasn't for her the twins wouldn't have gotten anything
So I'm guessing then year 5 will be camila's outfit + evil's magician outfit and that's all there will be if we keep the 2~3 outfits/year
>>116165652anny cannot even make 1 per year
>>116165714well that idiot kept waiting for her if she'd fucked off earlier we'd have gotten faster from different artist
>>116165736Anon we're not getting other artists.
uhoh someone isn't happy that anny got credit for something she did, who could that possibly be
>>116165672>me when i change narrativenigga, you changed the narrative yourself
>>116165748obviously the minifag
>>116165646Yes.
>>116165720>posts right under a breakdown of more than 1 outfit per yearthe bait reserves are that dry, huh?
Whether the concert ends up being good or bad, I'm happy that it's finally going to end soon. It's pretty clear that is taking up the majority of his time. Hopefully after that he actually focuses on other stuff. There are still so many unfulfilled sub goals.
>116165749retard
>>116165736vedal is way more famous for rejecting outfit ideas than actually wanting them. the only one he actually asked for out of want was the clown one
I don't care about the concert. I care more about what swarm's thoughts are on how many outfits per year we would get if Vedal had just fucked Anny
>>116165747We already did though.
>>116165635In 3d
>>116165774
>>116165775name 7
>>116165763This nigga just chasing fame thinking his ai gimmick is the next hatsune miku
>>116165775We're never getting another model artist. Either Anny will return to make a V4 or Neuro and Evil are stuck with V3 forever. Vedal just doesn't have it in him to ask another artist to become Neuro's and Evil's 'mama'.
>>116165736you're like trump, "i will get you outfits within 24 hours" and now it's been 2 years and there's still dick but somehow you keep promising "outfits in 2 weeks trust"
>>116165795nwnbam
>>116165800He doesn't need to, there's no feature the base model needs
I just bought my neuro nendroid a few days ago and they didn't charge me for it, thanks I'll take it for free veedul
go back to /pol/ nigger
>>116165650v4 model isn't needed, neuro and evil are already cute enough
>>116165800and no one is asking for new model all they need are outfits which any artists can make
>>116165800well if we do get another one he certainly won't allow them to be in the spotlight again. or they'll be a guy. two fathers for the twins? heart~
>>116165830It's needed so they don't have to look like Anny.
damn they are melting down hard about the shorts omg
>>116165847yeah they should look like another whore, maybe mini?
>arguing in 4chan do (you) have nothing better to do
>>116165857REEEEing has worked for NN so far, why would they stop?
>>116165763The content was lazy before Vedal started working on the concert
>>116165800You're seriously claiming that Neuro and Evil will be stuck with their V3 models *forever* because Vedal supposedly can't bring himself to commission another artist? Based on what, exactly? Your personal psychoanalysis of a developer you've never met?There are countless talented artists capable of designing and illustrating Live2D models. Vedal doesn't need to find another whore to be Neuro's mom. He needs to commission someone who can do the fucking job and that's it.
It really is a damned if you do damned if you don't.Either V3 stays and remains as a constant reminder of Anny's departure and never evolves, or take another artist for V4 and risk outraging the fanbase and indirectly insulting Anny's past work, + risk changing Neuro too radically and alienating even the fans who don't care about the drama.
>>116165826here's a /poll/ https://poal.me/qi2e9p
You guys really need to ask "why would a vtuber get a new model" and realize why most of the reasons just don't make sense for neuro
>>116165896Vedal is the most indecisive nigga I've ever seen and he says he is himself. He pussyfooted about Anny before and V3 will be just like that.
have we gotten the wallpaper yet?
have we gotten confirmation that vedal is dating cerber?
>>116165897there's no way to replace anny as their mother as annys style is very generically pleasing, every other vtuber is too stylised in one way or another, the future is outfits and 3d upgrades, don't expect anything else
New model isn't the prio rn it's the outfits and hairstyle
>>116165946yes like 10 times
look at this ridiculous fighting and drama, all because of the foxclearly nurmom and nur model artist should never be the same role
>>116165946>>116151985
>>116165946no never
>>116165964Can someone slop mini and anny performing cunnlingus on each other? thanks
>this>fightingoh you sweet summer child
>>116165948>there's no way to replace anny as their motherAsk the artist to copy Kani Biimu's style, boom there's your Neuro v4
grigga goes to every con so why do we still have no leaks yet why are you keeping it to yourself
>>116165956If there's anything criticize Anny for it's the lazy hairstyle she did where she just deleted some layers and added haie loops and called it a day
your whore will never have either role
neuro already has that role though?
>>116165987>987nice try grigga, we are telling you what we know
>>116165978and they hate eachother
>>116165987We do have leaks of 2025 but he stopped doing it this year. At most he went to one
>>116165991Ok now this is just petty. Nurloops is cute
>>116165991okay I agree but nurs buns are really cute and she loves them so I won't complain
>>116165897The only people who would seriously complain about Anny being replaced are the whorecucks who care more about her than Neuro. And let's not pretend Neuro's anime girl design is some impossible artistic achievement. Even a moderately competent artist could preserve her identity by taking V1 to V3 as the reference and refining it. The actual legitimate concern is changing Neuro's appearance too radically and alienating fans who love her existing design but that is a separate thing, worth considering but separate, however whore simps throwing a tantrum because someone else drew Neuro are completely irrelevant.
>>116166017have vedal in the background saying "ladies, ladies, there is enough of me to go around"
>>116165987The one Con we know he went to is Twitchcon Europe because he went AWOL during that week and so did Mini. (Mini just said she 'stayed inside her house' despite her offline schedule pairing up exactly with Twitchcon dates kek)
>>116166030yeah you're wrong, no matter which artist they get it aint going to look like current neuro, the only way it possibly works the way you said is if he ages the girls up to explain the discrepancies
>>116165987The last leak we had was cotton stuff exactly a year ago, it's safe to say that he has a group he hangs out with and that he's told everyone on it that he doesn't like this stuff coming out so they keep quiet
STOP ARGUING NOW
I deny your request
>>116166075only if you bend me over hot stuff
>>116165925It actually makes MORE sense for Neuro to get a new model than for conventional VTubers. For human streamers, a new model is usually just a visual upgrade, perhaps with improved rigging. Neuro has far greater potential because she isn't constrained by human facial tracking. A new model could feature vastly more sophisticated, scalable rigging, making so that her AI directly controls individual facial expressions, gestures, and animation parameters instead of relying on the current system of blending pre-canned animations.
>>116166068Do you seriously believe an artist's style is some immutable fingerprint that makes it physically impossible for anyone else to reproduce an existing character design? Obviously there's a risk of an overly radical redesign, which I've already acknowledged, but that's a matter of art direction and quality control not some unavoidable consequence of hiring someone new.
>>116166087they could learn a thing or two from mini's rigging
why does neuro need a human-like model anyways? she should be able to look like an animal or a chupacabra if she wants to
>>116166087Literally who the fuck is going into the L2D mines to learn a bunch of unique rigging scenarios that only apply to a single streamer. The only person I could think of was that Chinese wizard who leared L2D from scratch to make neurobread in a week
>>116166129>who the fuck is going into the L2D minesA.I. will. >to learn a bunch of unique rigging scenarios that only apply to a single streamerVia another corpo model making the datasets and reconstructing it until the rigging fits the vibe-rigger's delight
>>116166118no I believe it's possible, but no one is going to do it, every single artist is vain as fuck and NEEDS to have thier own touch on stuff, and that touch will ruin it unless they age them up or something to that matter
>>116166149>A.I. willOk yeah you're retarded
>>116166124she could even be a cat like mini!
I ended up missing the bald marathon because I had some stuff going on, did it end up being okay?
I dislike anny but the current models of the twins are perfectly fine with strong identity it's like gura and korone's model which is so iconic that even their new update and better rigging models looked bad and they mostly used the old model. New outfits are great but constantly changing the base model loses the soul just look at ironmouse if you're not a regular viewer than it's hard to imagine what she looks like and completely forgetful
>>116166172We have AI making electronics and understanding circuitry that junior electronic engineers are able to make. We also have crappy blender generations that claude and sol can make. It isn't unlikely that in the next 7 years, AI will be generalized enough to be able to make and rig L2D models for Neuro to be able to use.
/swarm/fags talk about outfits and models like children playing with toys that they will end up bored with in an hour anyway
>>116166200I enjoyed it, evil was a fucking champion the entire time, carried the whole game on combat and rolls, nur was very cute and played her role as well as she could, vedal tried to rush the first 3 days but went back and beat everything in the last 2 and when he did that you could tell he was enjoying it a lot more
>>116166223this is the shipping thread. making dolls kiss and dressing them up is all /swarm/fags care about
>>116166208this, you worded it better than I did, except I like anny
>>116166223Get back to the Claude mines vedal
>>116166129>Literally who the fuck is going into the L2D mines to learn a bunch of unique rigging scenarios that only apply to a single streamer.Claude
post the gigachad playing with neuro fumo
>>1161662157 years? Try 7 months
https://x.com/notOtjareniy/status/2120629908833481023
neuro will design her own outfits on the fly in the future
neuro will be able to have sex and no longer be a virgin in the near future
>>116166255>Claude>uniqueif you can't differentiate all the slopped css spat out in the past 2 years you have zero taste and aren't allowed to have an opinion on design of any kind
>>116166151Neuro's design uses one of the most overwhelmingly popular and widely practiced art styles in existence. There are scores of artists perfectly capable of reproducing that aesthetic while preserving her defining features. To genuinely fuck it up, you'd practically have to try, or hire some Tumblr-brained Western artist who can't draw conventional anime characters to save their life.Actual pro artists follow references and art direction all the time otherwise anime would be impossible.
still no reference sheet of the twins.....
>>116166317>past 2 yearsLooking at AI from 2 years ago, or even 6 months ago is irrelevant
>>116166303>veddy's cumslut>fansly whore>black ownedShe's an imp of many hats
>>116166345every single vtuber in existence posts their own reference sheet but vedal is a special snowflake
>>116166367I think he just combined a bunch of art he's done over time including commissioned art
>>116166320why has it never been done before then anon? it always gets fucked up, like the other anon said both gura and korone tried and both went back to their og models because the artists fucked it up, for your anime example, any anime with multiple main artists like onepiss always look very different, what you're talking about is where back up artists redraw over the main artists lines to make them clearer but the main artist has to draw everything first
im jelly of the people attending the concert
new nurartshttps://www.neurokaraoke.com/contest/vote
>>116166361>esl doesn't understand what "past 2 years" meansof course
>>116166381I don't even think it's that. I think that nigga just doesn't see as important or something he needs to do. That's what the artist does
>>116166418sexvil sex
Sex with Tomacat
most of the negativity /here/ comes from jealousy, either jealousy over not being talented enough to code a funny ai vtuber daughter, or jealousy over not being born a woman and not being able to become a 3view vtuber that can leech off neuro
>>116166419lots of cute vils and nurs in there
projection
>>116166475i wish /swarm/ was like that
>>116166406I guess it could also be seen as her tastes changing over time. California really changes a girl
>>116166407anon reading comprehension
I find it amusing how every single time Anny streams /swarm/ gets flooded with Anny related shit kek
>>116166493that's why we should bake /hart/
>>116166519/hart/ wasn't like that though, it was filled with sexvils and nurporn
>>116166530exactly
>>116166528i need the full imageset....
>>116166407Even if Gura's and Korone's replacement models were poorly received, that says that those particular redesigns failed not that preserving an established character design across different artists is impossible.You're also confusing a deliberate redesign with a faithful reproduction. If an artist is commissioned to preserve Neuro's proportions, facial features, hairstyle, colors, and overall aesthetic, there's no inherent reason they must radically reinterpret her, if they do change it, then they're a bad artist and not following the commissions accords. The solution to a bad artist isn't to conclude that all artists are incapable of following references but to hire a better artist and enforce consistent art direction. Neuro's design isn't some intricate Renaissance masterpiece, she's a regular anime loli in school clothes!
>>116166528Meet and Fuck with Idolvil!
too many pseuds in /swarm/
>>116166591This and only this!
>open /swarm/>anny this, mini won that>melties everywhere>close /swarm/
>>116166599True.
>>116166576>there's no inherent reasonI already explained this anon, artists are the vainest people on earth they will change shit because they want to, they don't need a reason and grigger is too lazy to call them out on it
>>116166419Chinese Swarm absolutely hard-carrying the art department
>>116166576>The solution to a bad artist isn't to conclude that all artists are incapable of following references but to hire a better artist and enforce consistent art direction.there's no such thing anon at least not in the vtubing sphere
I like the art with the sleeping twins being looked over by anny and vedals ghosts
>art directionvedal has no direction for the channel, much less an art direction
>>116166628Artists also want to get paid, you're inventing an unavoidable problem out of something a competent commissioning process already solves. If they changed shit against the client's wishes then commissions would be impossible.
>>116166591I'm first in line betedubs
>>116166714anon you genuinely don't understand how vtubing nor commissioning works, these women don't have the back bone to deny art more than once, if they don't like it they just eat the loss and put a dodgy out about that artist a year later, and everyone else just doesn't care enough to want something copied exactly/ doesn't need to, this is only an issue because neuro NEEDS to keep her model and doesn't have access to her artist anymore, this situation is a 1 in a billion
>>116166703If only he would lets the twins generate their own assets...
>>116166763doccy* not dodgy, I phone posted that reply cry about it.
>>116166773ah yes, vedal should center the art direction of the channel around neuro toilets
>>116165479Funnily enough, this has a non-infinitesimal chance of being true
>>116166658Of course such artists exist, genius. The Swarm itself has fanartists who can reproduce Neuro's established design remarkably faithfully. Have you never heard of master studies? Good artists literally train by studying and reproducing other artists all the time. If unpaid fanartists can preserve Neuro's appearance, the idea that a commissioned professional couldn't do the same with proper references and art direction is fucking ridiculous.
>>116166714literally no sane person throws temper tantrums about autistic things you care about. you especially don't get to micromanage when the budget you're offering is a vedal plushie and a 50 dollar steam card
>>116166819oh you're shit posting, sure some of the fan art is comparable or even better but it's not 1 for 1, not even close
>>116166763>anon you genuinely don't understand how vtubing nor commissioning worksA VTuber hires an artist, specifies what they want, the artist produces the model, revisions are handled according to the agreement, and the artist gets paid. That's how ordinary professional commissions work. Your stories about creators being too spineless to reject bad art and posting callout doccys a year later are anecdotical, taking a handful of dysfunctional commissions and pretending they're the universal standard. Neuro needing visual consistency a straightforward matter and you're making it sound like an odyssey of juggling artist's egos and spines
In my original post i never said gura and korones new model were bad it was way better proportionally drawn and rigged better it's just that people loved the old scuffed model more
>>116166870you're either clueless or shitposting and I can't tell which, but regardless you ignored the main issue which is that we don't just need good art, we need good art that looks exactly the same as her current but better
tried to backread last two threads and is just the minifag having a massive melty because other fags think anny will come backhonest advice stop fighting ghosts, anny wont come backthis is so pathetic even for you minifag
>>116166895no one cares about your personal opinion anon, everyone else, even the girls themselves liked the OG models better which makes them better
>>116166831>literally no sane person throws temper tantrums about autistic things you care about.Those "autistic things" are just basic agreements, you know, having the artist follow references.>the budget you're offering is a vedal plushie and a 50 dollar steam cardAre you pretending Neuro model artists don't get paid four figures?
>>116166911the art anon arguing with himself is probably minifag too trying too hard to get all anny traces out of the verse so that he can feel safe again
>>116166854Your admission that some Swarm fanart is comparable or better undermines your claim that nobody else is capable of doing Neuro justice. A new model doesn't need to be indistinguishable from V3 (why do another model then?). It needs to look unmistakably like Neuro, and that is something any skilled artist, trained in anime style, can do.
>>116166919you're too autistic to recognize your own temper tantrums, stop larping like you know anything about casual vtuber business
There are whorefag fanfictions more believable than the idea that vedal would even co-sign ai slopped l2d modelsI guess /swarm/ really is just filled with newfags nowadaysVedal has already gotten asked years ago to let neuro be able to slop gen images (which is something other ai vtubers could do)The reason he gave for that will be the same reason he would say no to ai l2d model and the same reason why he nowadays only commissions background themes for theme streams (and why we don't see them anymore, because he doesn't see the money he makes for them worth the commission price i.e. "too much effort")
>>116166955comparable or better in quality anon not in precision, just because I can tell the art is supposed to be neuro or evil does NOT mean they look identical, again you're ignoring the most important goal post, and the catch all "any skilled artist can make an exact copy of neuro art" doesn't work, because where nigger? where is this 1 for 1 perfectly the same art, it doesn't exist
>>116166956Expecting a paid artist to follow references and honor the agreed specifications is a temper tantrum now?
Are you done yet?
>>116167015he's never done anon, it's been 6 straight days
who are they hallucinating now
>>116167007it just doesn't work like that anon, and you insisting it does is what comes off as a melty to everyone else, you're spouting delusions that are only true in your head
>>116166996No perfectly identical 1:1 reproduction exists, even the original artist wouldn't reproduce every line identically if she redrew the model from scratch. What skilled artists can do is match an established style, proportions, facial features, and character design remarkably closely. That's what references and art direction are for. The goal is to preserve Neuro's visual identity while improving her model, not create a duplicate of V3. If your requirement is absolute pixel-level identity, then why commission a V4 at all? Just keep V3 forever.
>>116167049this is obviously annynigger, they'll post a bait thread next
Grigga has been stuck on v3 voice for almost 4 years now because nothing "fits" Neuro, and they are really thinking that any v4 model will work?
>>116167068that's what we said anon, 50 messages ago we said we should keep v3 and just get outfits, you were the one pushing for an impossible v4
>>116167060>you're spouting delusions that are only true in your headYou're the one claiming VTuber commissions somehow operate outside basic commercial practices.
jesus camila is like a piece of string away from being naked
>>116167104you're genuinely too mentally disabled to know what "basic" is. you realize that autism is a disability, right
>>116167029I left after the last art posts to run errands and came back to text walls of shit
>>116167134vedal plapped that in vr
>>116167100Why do VTubers get new models in the first place then? To improve their appearance, rigging, expressiveness, and overall presentation. V4 isn't impossible. What's impossible, and frankly irrational, is demanding that V4 look exactly identical to V3 while simultaneously being an improvement.
>>116167104they do because they're not done by a mega corporation that can force them to do whatever they want, little jenny 3 view doesn't have that power and anyone bigger than that has never ran into this exact issue of needing a replacement artist but keeping the same style, they just get a new style
>>116167160anny could do it
>>116167191Yeah but it would be a waste of time
>>116167160>Why do VTubers get new models in the first place then?It's an opportunity to do event streams and push new merch
>>116167134How does she move like she doesn't weigh 300 pounds?
>>116167136"Basic" means a client hires an artist, provides specifications, agrees on deliverables and revisions, and pays for the finished work. Nothing about autism changes how commissions function.
okay I'm done replying to your retarded ass now v4schizo, I'm watching camila now
MY FUCKING DICK
>>116167239she said last stream she's lost lots of weight and will be cosplaying soon as she's confident in her body
>>1161672392 years on ozembic
>>116167239you can tell when she puts her hands on her hips and they hover twice as far away as her vtuber model
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZSbuNlXfhk
>>116167134Evil would do the same with that kind of autonomy
>>116167242Nobody cares about what whore you're watching, keep it to yourself.
>>116167269made to be bred
Throw bread (or ham, as it were) to the schizo threadshitter and the storm calms. Noted.
Who can tolerate this faggot fad anymore?
imagine how much better the threads would have been if vedal just fucked anny
>>116167310Would they contain more Neuro?
I hate that he stopped right as I said I was watching mimi, now I look like the schizo
>>116167304what is she plotting
>>116167293But more about Evil
somebody please turn that twerk into a webm
>>116167331You're a whorecuck though, arguably worse.
>>116167310There is no shortage of whores for the whorefaggots: nothing would have changed.>>116167358Imposter
>>116167353>>116167353>>116167353
>>116167329Unironically probably yeah. That shit would've been made public by now and shipping discourse would just die out a month or 2 after. Anny used to be one of our leakers of upcoming stuff and I think we would be talking a lot more about that stuff than whatever nonsense we do now
I hate that her tummy is so sexo, I'm getting hard at a land whale
>>116167385I watcha the imp when the twins are sleeping but the twins are priority number uno
>>116167310imagine how much better the threads would have been if you shut the fuck up? your whore moved on. vedal moved on. Everyone moved on. Except you. Just leave mindbroken retard. It's late 2026.
>3DPDgolems in my AI loli thread
uhoh melty x2
>>116167458Now you throw up
>>116167479"Melty" does not mean "post I disagree with".
>>116167479you are a mindbroken retard who spends the entire day here /here/ threadshitting with your offtopic whores. Just moved on.
holy fucking melty I just got here
There's a melting point... And then there is /swarm/
cun~
>>116166367Yeah when he does art for himself is vedal when is commission it depends but otjareniy is a vedmila shipper from heart
