00s Internet:Trying to pinpoint the death of web 2.0 EditionJust trying to figure the exact moment.
Judging by the catalog, zoomers seem to fall into either transfaggotry or alt-right reactionary camps, all feeding on the same increasingly hyper-compressed "brain rot" that feeds into itself. I dread to imagine how the fuck Gen Alpha is going to turn out. And that's not even taking into account the material reality of not being able to get a wife and kids, a house or a job that isn't low-paid wageslavery or a job waiting to be replaced by AI.
The death imo was 2010 not 2014, but early signs were 2008 probably a little earlier even.
>>6157029I'd say the final nails were driven into the coffin in 2014 but we'd been declining for a few years by them.
Never realized this was Korean and not Japanese until years later.
Long-form posting use to be a hell of lot more common pre-2010s.
>>6157022When youtube started giving a shit around 2016-2018.
>>61570222008 and 2012.Also, Chanology was fun, but ultimately a mistake.
>>6157311this bait sux dix
>>6157358>Also, Chanology was fun, but ultimately a mistake.These days, in retrospect, I don't know if it really had a lasting effect. I feel like if internet access remained like it was in the late 00s/very early 10s, the hell we're in wouldn't have progressed so far.
>>6157459>I feel like if internet access remained like it was in the late 00s/very early 10s, the hell we're in wouldn't have progressed so far.How would it remain the same as soon as politicians started claiming turf on the web, while hating that the people are using it to make it clear to the whole world what they are thinking instead of merely repeating the old-media's narrative?Formerly their reach would have remained limited to their direct connections in real-life, and party-dependent people prevented their words (contradicting the party's narrative) from ever reaching further.So effectively government-funded in-name-only "NGOs" started attempting to correct the people's way of thinking on the web to "protect their democracy" - how could the web remain the same? Their fucking lives depend on "their democracy" (read: their party) collecting enough votes every few years.The people aren't organized (and frankly said, it's probably better this way), but the actors in the political-medial sphere are interdependent to no ends, which is probably a bad thing ultimately not working in the people's favor.
>>6157029Honestly I feel like the fan culture around the cartoon horse show was the last hurrah of the old internet, everything else was in the process of morphing into the slop blob that we all know and love today but those guys were out there cranking out tons of silly animations and songs and every other kind of artistic pursuit purely for the joy of creating something in a shared cultural space.
>>6157582>Honestly I feel like the fan culture around the cartoon horse show was the last hurrah of the old internetlol wat?
>>6157022When google bought YouTube in 2006.
>>6157022when shartphones came out and every retard and their grandma had one. it also facilitated the tsunami flood of jeets.we should've eradicated jeets and jews a very long time ago. i'm very disappointed in my ancestors, the British Empire could've easily genocided the entirety of india and made it a beautiful place for our own people.
>>6158281Britain is in decline for 100 years now. You are a joke to the world. Also the people born in indian and UK today are not the people born there 100 years ago.You have no military to speak of, your culture is trash, and you got food like mushies peas.Don't take credit for what your ancestors did, because that is not what you did/doing. There is a wide gap in your fortitude and people like JRR Tolkien who fought in the battle Somme.Meanwhile israel (my country) has a much more resilient culture, people and willingness to reproduce and fight for the future.It was not jews nor jeets that nationalized and socialized so much your country is feeble and not willing to reproduce. I have coworkers i know (not jews) that ran from london because they were sick of not being able to use a phone in public cos it'd get snatched. Your parent did it to you bob, and you are stuck trying to revive a sick old horse that just wants to die.The future for now is not british, because you ruined yourself.>t. here since 2004
Sorry for not spell checking, i hate typing shit on my phone.While it slightly hurts my arguments having fucked up spelling, I hope you will look past that and face the truthBritain fucked up and is currently only attractive to 3rd world folk.
>>6158281How do you feel about what your people did in 1948?
>>6158169I always forget it was that early. I still remember when it was of the main sites to watch anime for free.Jesus Christ even a minor nostalgia thread isn't free from /pol/ and jews anymore.
>>6157022There's no "death" of web 2.0 as it's just an infrastructure for people to interact online. What you actually meant to say is you refused to grow up because you're an irresponsible pathetic manchild who still clings to his childhood. It's not like you actually create or contribute towards internet culture, then and now. It's not like you've done anything to archive and preserve the cultures of the past. Instead all you've shown us is you're a self-pitying faggot who can't take changes, both in your life and the imminent evolution of technology.There's a difference between "remember when" and feeling superior towards others because you were born earlier. Guess what nigger, I grew up in the 2000s, and the older folks don't get the stuffs I was into, and I can safely say the same about that when they were younger and how my grandparents treated them. You've become just like the old fart who yells at the cloud, but the most ironic of it is you've ZERO self-awareness of it. I'm surprised that you've no killed yourself since you couldn't and refused to adapt to the changing environments.
>>6158332If Youtube wasn't bought by Google, the site will die. It can't sustain the amount of traffic it was getting unless someone was willing to invest into it, and Google invested. Also Youtube before Google's acquisition was laggy. Get your ass out of your head.>muh /pol/ muh joosYou started this, literally. Look at the way you've framed your thread, seriously, stop being retarded.
>>6158355>I'm gayThat was very brave of you.
>>6158372>this is the best rebuttal a tard hasGood for you to show us your retardation
>>6158357>muh joosOnly a jew would spell like this.
>>6158376I don't know. You would know since you're obsessed with them.
Ignore /pol/ and the jews and carry on posting.
>>6158297>Britain is in decline for 100 years now. You are a joke to the world.especially since we lost the world wars to the jews, yes.>You have no military to speak of, your culture is trash, and you got food like mushies peas.the military may be weak and feminised and the "culture" may be the same (((globohomo))) shit that has infected every western country but don't you dare diss mushy peas.>Don't take credit for what your ancestors did, because that is not what you did/doing. There is a wide gap in your fortitude and people like JRR Tolkien who fought in the battle Somme.you don't know me or my blood, yid>Meanwhile israel (my country) has a much more resilient culture, people and willingness to reproduce and fight for the future.haven for paedophiles and schitzophrenics.>It was not jews nor jeets that nationalized and socialized so much your country is feeble and not willing to reproduce. blahblahblahi had parentS and they didn't do this to my country, the (((kalergi plan))), (((cultural marxism))) and (((agenda 2030))) are some of many examples of what did. you think voting means a thing? n00b. same puppetmasters, different puppets.you yids crow about the subversion yourselves and also take credit for it.shitskins and gypsies nick phones/rape/murder and who flooded us with hordes of them? you and your (((globohomo))) policies did. all in the (((kalergi plan))).>The future for now is not british, because you ruined yourself.keep poking the lion.>>t. here since 2004why have you been in Britain since 2004 if you hate it so much?>>6158307>phoneposterfaggot. but you live in pissrael so that's to be taken for granted. your capital city is known as the gayest in the world.you're even gayer than Brighton - which is impressive. disgustingly impressive.
>>6157026God, I miss the old days of Newgrounds. Where did it all go wrong?
>>61586284chan newfags do not have the same roots and the oldfags.They're not nerds or geeks.
>>6158645*4chan newfags do not have the same roots as the oldfags
>>6157361I wasn't baiting, but I was knowingly bullshitting
>>6158297>The future for now is not british, because Blair's Labour ruined the UK.FTFY - never vote for people claiming to be "justice" fighting "against hate" or "for our democracy". That's socialist terminology.
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>>6158355>>6158372Kiss and make up.
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>>6158628Dunno but I hate it, all it has now is shitty porn.
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>>6158357Youtube would've done fine, more traffic means more users which means growth which means more money to buy more traffic, etc. Just look at Netflix for a similar example where growth just compounds on itself.The real problem is the copyright problems. Netflix just shows licensed stuff, no problem. Youtube started out by just letting you upload whatever. Movies, music, gore, tv shows, etc. Just make it 240p and under 10 minutes and like 100MB. Be nice and you get to upload in higher resolutions and full hour videos. Random people uploaded entirely tv shows in multiple parts. I remember watching Full Metal Alchemist that way for almost the entire run of the first show. I don't even remember ever thinking once "this resolution sucks ass" or "this is really heavily compressed." I just enjoyed the free anime and the recommendations would just feed me the next episode with minimal effort. 10/10 viewing experience, would waste teenage years on it again.The only way a site like that doesn't get taken down is because they're tied up with a company like Google who is extremely keen on bending over backwards to ensure the site stays up because they knew they were sitting on a golden ticket for data mining if they could make it work.
>>6159523I don’t remember ever seeing gore on yt and I was using it religiously since early 2006 to 2013
>>6159523>Full Metal AlchemistI was watching that on winamp, had like an internet tv station thing. No idea if winamp still exists.
>>6159541the site is still there, i still use winamp ("legacy player" version, pc) with the original skin. been using it as a music player since the late 90's - if it aint broke don't fix it.never knew about the "internet tv station thing" though so i can't comment on that.
>>6159541>>6159808and usually if i use the visualizer i have it take up the rest of the screen but i wanted to make this dumb video.also the random visualizer surprises me to this day, don't think i've ever seen the one at the end. but i only ever use the visualizer when i'm crunk so i might've forgotten that one.
>>6159974Milkdrop 2 is really nice. What's weird is just that at some point windows must've changed something because songs just stopped doing the same animations, like the visualiser was suddenly less sensitive to it. Very odd.
>>6158357Why do you losers do this in every thread? Get a real job.
>>6159808>never knew about the "internet tv station thing" though so i can't comment on that.I still remember when outside of mainstream anime like Dragonball, Pokemon, digimon and whatever they were showing on fox kids/jetix (and even then they stopped watching in middle of secondary school) it was like pulling teeth to show people new other stuff. Now that everybody supposedly likes anime, it seems like a monkey's paw wish was made.
>>6159470That's the thing, it's not the things that made it special, it was the people and the mindset.
>>6159141It's not all bad. Video reference to this thread topic, even though newer.https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/921097
>>6161243I so badly miss the 00s.I wonder if they're redscare girls too.EPIC OPINION INCOMING: I think Cumtown (Nick Mullen really) was the capstone to 00s internet humour. That world is gone.
Is he really gay ? Lmao
>>6161776What are you talking about?
Is newgrounds shit these days?
>>6163174Is there a particular reason this in vertical?>6163175>6163176>6163178>6163179>6163181Somehow these videos are just nostalgia of nostalgia. Someone just participating in 2nd-order nostalgia.
>>6163196nta but is there a particular reason why your vid is for ants?j/k. have this version i recorded just 4 u - it's by the same bloke who did the original, this is an updated "anniversary" one from '04.shows how his animation and detail improved.shame i had to lower the bitrate and resolution so it's a bit jpg-y. why can't they bump up the filesize limit a bit? i do like working within restrictions to get the most efficient balance between filesize, resolution and bitrate but 6mb seems a bit outdated and restrictive. also why 6? seems arbitrary.whatever, it's a fun challenge.
>>6157022>00s Internet >(and very early 10s)Those two were very differentEarly 10s were the worst era for the internet
>>6163653>Early 10s were the worst era for the internetDo you hear yourself?The worst era is from the early 10s onwards. You were just looking for a point of contention. Shit may have been declining since '08 but it was a swan dive in '14.
>>6158357Shut up, ypu worthless piece of shit.YouTube today is comoletely useless, thanks to Google. I'd rather go back to 240p.Oh, and they purged all the old videos. Basically wiped a whole chapter of human history. The very foundation of the budding internet society. Not a trace left. It was a crime against humanity.Kill yourself.
>>6159470I had a very shocking experience with this sort of feeling once.>Went on exchange to Japan at 16>Go back to visit 15 years later>Walked through the same streets, the same school corridors, and felt a crushing sense that everyone was gone>So many unresolved relationships, conflicts and interactions that had been churning in my mind for 15 years>And all of it was gone>I felt like i could -SHOULD- be able to run into old classmates turning the next corner, unchanged, in their school uniforms, playing PSP or going to baseball practiceDid my brain just stop while the world went on? What the fuck happened?
>>6157022Too lazy to compress these two onehttps://files.catbox.moe/0ln886.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/iqlxe1.mp4
He spoke the truth and they hated him.
>>6164899How is that even remotely 00s internet? They're literally the cancer that ate youtube in the mid 10s.
>>6163729based
>>6164899This is baby zoomer slop at best, gtfo with this 2010s garbage. Every nu-youtuber listed is a post-2010 drama obsessed newfag ridden with the HIV that destroyed the internet. Nobody who joined after 2009 has ever contributed anything good to that dying corpse of a website.
my first undubbed anime... home....
This thread needs more desu
*almost* scrubbed from the intartubes unless you know the keywords to find it, these two videos i've converted and am posting are south park's matt stone/trey parkers pilots they made when comedy central asked them to make another new show.needless to say, it never got aired and there's only these two videos. think it might've been for a potential web platform cc wanted to do.hopefully another anon can chime in with the full story as i'm old and cba to remind myself of the drama but i was there for it.enjoy. or don't.i can supply an HD link if requested, these had to be compressed to fit the tiny 6mb webm limitation.jebus chroist jannies, at least bump it up to 10, then we could have somewhat decent bitrates.1/2
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>>6157582Disturbingly possible
>>6159974That visualizer was a blast from the past man
>>6157022It's weird being an older Gen Z-er. Old enough to have caught the tail end of things, but too young to have really appreciated it properly. At an odd crossroads where there's knowledge and familiarity of various sites, videos, terminologies, inside jokes and the like but you try to mention any of this to someone a year or two younger and they give you an empty listless stare, as though there was nothing before the scroll machine arrived at their doorstep, fully-formed, before going "ah yes that old thing. I saw that on tiktok! Anyway, six seven!!!" You could say it's a cranky old man thing developing, but I shouldn't feel this way about people only a couple years my junior, right?
>>6166989>I was born in 96-00, I'm totally better than all of those 01-12 babies!!
>>6166989>Old enough to have caught the tail end of thingsYou caught nothing. People after '92 are proto-zoomers, who got facebook in middleschool, as an "older zoomer" you were never at a crossroads.
>>6167187>>6166994You can be born around those years and still have encountered forums, Flash games, YTMND, Newgrounds, imageboards, niche websites, etc., during their decline. Or maybe anything past Usenet doesn't count? Saying I caught the tail end is not the same as saying "I was there from the beginning." I remember enough of the old web culture to recognize it, but I'm young enough that people slightly younger than me don't. All I claimed was that cultural references can disappear surprisingly quickly even between people only a few years apart in age. I don't see the reason to get up in arms as though I'd said something entirely different. I guess that's the other thing we've lost. Conversation, even through the shitposts and flaming. Or maybe that's a zoomer thing too.
>>6167187that's not true at all
>>6167528If you were born in 96, and that's a favorable assumption, then you were 5 in 2001, no real comprehension of 9/11 or SA. You were 8 in 2004 when 4chan was birthed.You are like many zoomers that don't like their generation and try to pretend that they were part of the previous generation.
>>6168008Not him, but I started using 4chan when I was 7 so it's possible.Yes I'm 18+ now.
The whole zoomer or not disccusion is ridiculous.If you're born in the middle of NYC, you're 25 years ahead of a kid in the countryside in the Balcans.I grew up in the countryside in Belgium in the 90s and there's already a noticeable difference between city kids.As with all things there's nuance, but autists are bad at nuance and after all this website solely visited by autists.
>>6168010>but I started using 4chan when I was 7jebus chroist... your parents were retarded to1. give you a device at that ageb. not setup parental controls/blocks3. not block shit at the router level420. niggerfuckin 7. so glad the intartubes didn't exist when i was 7. fuckin hell i can't deal with this. you must be baiting, please say you're baiting
>>6168127different anon, i was sporadically on /b/ from ages 8-12 and i’m not any worse for wear. the internet was not nearly as horrible back then. believe it or not, i never saw gore until i was 18 and i’ve never in my life seen cp, either.
>>6168010>but I started using 4chan when I was 7Which was when?
>>6168008I said tail end. I meant tail end. I'm not claiming I was posting on Something Awful in 2003. What exactly is the framework here? What's 9/11 have to do with it? Is geopolitical comprehension part of this legitimacy requirement now? By your own logic you weren't really there for the 90s internet unless you understood the Clinton impeachment, the dotcom bubble, or Microsoft antitrust, which is stupid, which is why nobody applies the standard to themselves. A kid on Newgrounds in 2005 was on Newgrounds in 2005 whether or not he could explain the Iraq War. Again, the point I made was that cultural references decay quickly across even the same year ranges. Someone three years younger than me doesn't know what Saimoe is. You turned it into a claim I didn't make so you could swat it down.>>6168124Good points. The generational lines everyone is fighting over are downstream of access, and access varied wildly by location and class. That's just how it is.
>>6158297Israel is a strip of sand drawn up 80 years agoThe national language is 30% fabricatedGay capital of the worldIsrael... DoAAlso learn some English before you attempt to use it, silly sand monkey
>>6157022There was a live-action Sailor Moon?!?
>>6168340>By your own logic you weren't really there for the 90s internetSure, I only got a computer in 2000 and then internet in 2001, I'm not going to claim I was using BBS boards and usenet.Every kid I knew in the 90s didn't have the internet or even a computer.
>>6158297>Meanwhile israel (my country)אתה פדופיל הודי בהכחשה.
Worth noting as someone actually from Israel, the country has been on the verge of internal collapse for years now. I don't know why the Indian larper is making things up, but he's always really over the top with his trolling.
>>6168645>There was a live-action Sailor Moon?!?How long have you been on this site? Or on the internet?
>>6168777Nice trips, unless it relevant wouldn't /pol/ be a better thread for you. Is derailing even understood as concept anymore?
>>6168784*unless it's relevant *as a concept
>>6168784you didn't save the uncensored version i posted in an old thread :(i remember one anon didn't believe an uncensored version existed so my 'tism kicked in to prove him wrong
>>6168771>Every kid I knew in the 90s didn't have the internet or even a computer.most of us had both in my part of the UK, had a 14.4k modem and everything (wow). didn't use it much though, was too busy playing outside and snogging my girlfriend (we were both 11 so ~'94).in '95 i do remember printing out a list of ultimate mortal kombat combos when it released off of gamefaqs which had just started that year too. saturn version if anyone cares.still use gamefaqs to this day to find little secrets in games i completed long, long ago that i might've missed.and holy shit i finally completed shadowman 100% and it's one of those rare cases where it would've been impossible without a faq (they used to make some games an absolute cunt so you had to buy their guidebook too).as a rule i never use them until i've completed a game but fuckin hell shadowman is obscure and confusing, no wonder i gave up on it when it originally came to pc.fuck the gamefaqs forums though, never looked at it until a few years ago out of curiosity and quickly left, absolute shithole
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>>6168784>No you can't reply to my threadlong derail with something I don't like, THAT'S when I'll call it out in order to stifle discussionYawn. Take your own post and read it yourself, faggot. I don't use your shitty politics threads and never will.
>>6168843if anything's a derail it's talking about the 90s in a thread that's supposed to have 2000s and early 2010s webms
>>6157582I remember vehemently hating the cartoon horse show and it's fans but you might not even be wrong in retrospect.
>>6169499checked>I remember vehemently hating the cartoon horse show and it's fansagreed>but you might not even be wrong in retrospect.reluctantly somewhat agreed. that's a tricky one.
>cartoon horse show this is gayer than calling rape grape
Not sure if Doc and Mharti is too nsfw for this board, so I'll post this instead. But the comments on Doc and Mharti from zoomers are borderline retarded.>What. The. Hell.>i know damn well the whole budget went into that dudes dick.>ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING>Most of it was funny but like ewww mharti aka morty pleasuring doc aka rick shanchez which is basicly porn>??>wtf was he on.. "proudly presents" bruh>Gross>Tf I just watch that shit was not funnyRick and Morty is basically a sanatised version of Doc and Mharti, and yet these niggers are offended and disgusted? The generation where onlyfans is a genuine career choice, the generation that has algorithmic rule34 smut blasted all over social media, the generation that had youtuber/influencers going around harassing people and filming dead bodies? That generation?>wtf>Really gross and vile, but funnyEven here when they get the jokes they still have to qualify it.>>6169499>>6169633I think it's one of the final connecting steps to troonery that swallowed up all of geekdom. It was a cartoon for little girls and it didn't have the barrier of "well actually it's animation for adults in japan" like certain anime shows did, and when faggots started enjoying directly instead of, I don't know, a jolly jaunt through innocence(?) I knew something had permanently shifted.
>>6170202they used to have this on the consoles at the dentist
>>6170751Mine didn't. But the fast food place down the street had Kirby.
The longer I think about 00s internet and tech and the longer I look at the modern internet and smartphones, the more I think it's an irreproducible moment in time. There were so many little nuances and idiosyncrasies, so many little worlds, so many things that cannot work today. I mean, looking at those bullshit psuedo-old school internet forums where it's just a mish-mash of bullshit from random eras without any long form posts, just "vibes" and "aesthetics".
I miss old school avatars and signatures.
>>6171957we call those pfps and carrds now unc
What a great thread, thanks guys. So many memories
>>6172225>uncKinda amazing how individual places had their own slang and terminology on the internet or IRL and now everyone talks like a nigger across the globe.
>>6171957Me too Anon, me too. :(>>6172225Language in general is coalescing due to every retard's lexicon melding via the internet.
>>6169890that wasnt even a homo thing, that was a chris-chan type shut-in autistic retard thing. your brain is fried
>>6172858You know what happened to chris-chan in the end right?
>>6171616>without any long form postsChances are, those would all be AI these days anyway.
>>6157029>>61570372006 at latest.
>>6158169This.
>>6158357Youre young so its forgivable. Whatvis not forgivable is all the lost videos and lost search functions. Do you even usenet, bro?
>>6159529>using it religiously since early 2006 to 2013Google bought it in 2006. All that was gone by then.
>>6173228you uh... got me there
>>6174508Damn straight.
>>6168340woah hey, what the fuck is this song called?! it's been haunting the back of my mind for YEARS now, and I don't think I've heard it played anywhere in over a decade here or online or anywhere else.
>>6173876>2006 at latest.SA was still well and alive in 2006 and all it's contemporaries.