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I hope you will put up with me in a little foolishness. Yes, please put up with me!

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The one who enters by the gate is the shepherd of the sheep.

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>>6228010

For the sake of your servant David,
do not reject your anointed one.

>>6232111
>Post your favorite mistranslations of stolen jewish fairy tales

Mary was a free use slut that was gang banged by over 40 browns in a single night because she wanted 20 unwashed musky brown cocks in her gaping pussy and 20 unwashed musky brown cocks in her gaping unwashed shithole.
Then instead of admitting to it because she would be stoned to death, she lied and because sand people are retarded they believed her.
Only retard would believe she had a virgin birth when it is well documented she was a slut addicted to being gaped and loaded by disgusting unwashed arab cock in her snatch and shitter.

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I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me

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it is from within, out of a person’s heart, that evil thoughts come

How come you guys worship a homeless jewish sex trafficker? You're even stupid enough to think he's your god

>>6233390
Have you ever felt the love of Chris? It is a wonderfull and amazing thing and i hope you will come to know it one day.

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>>6233390
hopefully you'll read the new testament to answer your own question and become more inquisitive
its interesting to listen to testimony of those who try to disprove the bible after actually reading it

>>6233447
the love saved me :)

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Love is the greatest of all spiritual virtues

Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good. Be devoted to one another in love.

Evil depends on point of view. If you win, the loser is evil, if you lose, the winner is. If you label your enemy evil, doing evil onto them is fair game according to you.

>>6233530
Good and evil are objective. Moral relativity is irrational. But beyond that, Christianity is very clear that evil itself is what you're meant to hate, not evildoers. The only way to fight back against evil is with love, compassion and edification.

>>6233557
And by burning random people on a stake, lol

>>6233718
Piss and shit be on the gay pedo prophet Muhammad.

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>>6232111
yes, i needed this, thankyou op and deo gratias.

>>6233718
i'm not going to listen to brown men any more unless they start making sense within 20 seconds.
>tl;dr jesus was human and for some reason he says this in a derogatory way and cherry picks some parts of the bible that say we do not compare to the glory of god
ok???

>>6232414
>>6233389
lets say that is true. then what? the best and most forgiving and loving religion, and most conductive to a functional society, was built from that. i don't have a problem with that- taking the bad and making it good, forgiveness, changing for the better. that's what it's all about. no one is perfect, we all of us are sinners, especially you, posters.
I choose to believe the christian doctrine on mary, because it built empires that flourished, and beauty the likes of which has never been known before or since.

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this contributed to my conversion.

>>6232111
Every night I get down on my knees and plead for Jesus to come deep inside of me and to fill me with his warm love

>>6232111
you fear death
you bottle your sins and lie to yourself
There is no heaven
No hell
you will waste your days in fear
And that moment as your blood starts to turn cold and your breath stops
your last thought will be

"what if i'm wrong"
Stop being afraid.

>>6234146
Projection the post

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As Jesus started on his way, a man ran up to him and fell on his knees before him

>>6232315
I worried about the maker of this webm. Some have a hard time to differentiate between the high opinion we have of defending your country and people, and an attack war or slaughter.

>>6234146
what if YOU'RE wrong?

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>>6234146
>you fear death
nope, mine is life everlasting, through the promises of Christ our lord.
>you bottle your sins and lie to yourself
i open up about all my sins am very honest with the priest in confession and know myself.
>There is no heaven
I hope that's not true
>No hell
YOU hope that's not true
>you will waste your days in fear
I've never felt more content, secure and unafraid since my conversion.
>And that moment as your blood starts to turn cold and your breath stops
>your last thought will be
thy will be done
>Stop being afraid.
already did, you ready to too?

Anons please pray for me, I need guidance. I've been torn recently between Protestantism and Orthodoxy (I found Christ 10 year ago and have considered myself non-denominational or Baptist ever since although I haven't attended church in a few years) but recently I've been reading more on Orthodoxy and have begun to immerse myself in it. I find arguments and positions on both sides convincing, I lean towards Orthodoxy now but I have two main hang ups, praying to saints and the use of icons. I am familiar with the views and positions of the Orthodox churches. Anyone have any videos, arguments, or resources on such? Also anything on the first time attending an Orthodox church would be nice

>>6234984
>Also anything on the first time attending an Orthodox church would be nice
Fr Peter Heers had a lifestream on that, but it's pretty long. Honestly I wouldn't sweat it, just call around to the parishes around you which language they speak during liturgy and do what other members do, just don't take the eucharist yet.
The church has lived through times in which they repeatedly had to worry about spies and moles finding our places of worship and being martyred simply for attending, they'll handle some new guy wanting to take a look.

>>6234984
>I have two main hang ups, praying to saints and the use of icons
become catholic. then you won't have a problem with that. no icon is worshipped, they inspire worship of god and keep history alive.
when you pray to a saint you are simply asking them to pray to god on your behalf, you are praying to god still.
protestants cut out half the religion and are a shit plastic version of christianity, especially the american ones. orthodox is good but even they lack a few things, i was in your shoes, i chose catholicism because it is the O.G. christianity, the first- at one time ALL christians were catholic. every catholic i've known has been great, redpilled, and fantastic people.

>>6232111
anyone got the traditional salve regina?

>>6235281
The Orthodox are the OG, the Catholics broke off as the Bishop of Rome wanted power. And the things the Orthodox don't believe in such as Purgatory and indulgences were fabrications by the Catholic Church, many erroneous beliefs have slipped in over the centuries as the Catholics prioritize worldly authorities over the church fathers writings and traditions.

>>6235295
completely fake news.
like, so badly fake i don't know how you believe that. the schism wasn't till 1054 and it's orthodox who are schismatic, because they would not accept basic things about christianity that everyone did till that point.

>>6235295
>the Catholics prioritize worldly authorities over the church fathers writings and traditions.
the orthodox are literally lead by a man, the patriarch, considered "first among equals". sounds like commie nonsense.

>>6235281
>become catholic. then you won't have a problem with that. no icon is worshipped, they inspire worship of god and keep history alive.
Catholics also are iconodules. Also Orthodox don't worship icons and you ought to be fully aware since St. John of Damascus is also a catholic saint.
>orthodox is good but even they lack a few things,
Like inventing new dogmas or vicars of Christ that contradict each other?

>>6235302
>because they would not accept basic things about christianity that everyone did till that point.
Like the ADDITION of the filioque?

>>6235309
Oh, you're one of those people who think the pope isn't a man? Come back after you've actually been a catholic for a few years.

>>6235343
orthodox are schizos. as is evidenced by all this seething about delusion. you lose your minds about inconsequential things like the addition of the filioque, which you have been seething about for literally 972 years. if they are all one and the same then it doesn't matter does it?

things i didn't say but you seem to have schizophrenically assumed and addressed anyways:
>Catholics are iconodules
>Orthodox worship icons
>i support all the new dogmas
>there's never been contradictions in the church
>the pope isn't a man

>>6235464
>>Catholics are iconodules
You claimed that 'the use of icons' is not a problem with catholics. This means that catholics don't use icons (disproved by this point) or that Orthodox 'use' icons incorrectly (also wrong as seen by the rest of the sentence you quoted). The 'usage' of icons we have (veneration) stems directly from ecumencial councils and multiple saints the catholics also canonized.
>>i support all the new dogmas
If you don't then you are literally and directly not in harmony with the current 'vicar of Christ' and all the previous ones who were in harmony with him. You are not in communion with the 'head of (your) church'.
>>there's never been contradictions in the church
There have been disagreements, but the church can not hold two contradictory opinions as that'd mean the body of Christ is torn apart and fighting against itself. If you read the Bible you'd recognize that Christ proved His divinity by not being turned against Himself. Where's the problem for 'catholics'? Popes held contradictory opinions which they believed to be absolute.
>>the pope isn't a man
Then why are you claiming the Orthodox are lead by a man (that's also false btw, we have multiple patriarchs who are equal to each other and we do not see our deacons, priests, monks, bishops, metropolitans or even patriarchs as infallible) and that this is 'commie nonsense'?

Honestly, your arguments are so weak that I have to assume you're that guy who's also roleplaying as a talmudic jew and muslim just to bait some controversy here.

>>6235915
tl;dr i'm not making arguments because i have nothing to prove to you, this is why i think orthodox is cope, you orthos always feel the need to debate everything and prove everything and get into all this minutia that doesn't matter.
I'm catholic, i believe this is the right path, i believe your path is also apostolic and correct, but catholicism is also the christianity of the west, you can't deny that. culturally orthodox does not fit western or even central europe.

>>6236181
Your claims imply that different people need different churches. Different churches imply different Christs or that Christ's body is torn apart and contradicting itself. The churches (RC and Orthodoxy) do not agree on the creed so therefore they are necessarily different.
The only way you can come out of this is by saying that there are lots of ways up the mountain, a teaching that lead to the acceptance of islam, judaism, new age bs and even occultism in the west. It'd also mean that none of the churches that claim to be the body of Christ are actually the body of Christ and therefore the gates of hell actually prevailed.

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The Protestant Reformation was one of the greatest things that ever happened in the Church

>>6236181
>orthodox
>right path
That's literally what the name means lol.

Catholics are not about rightous discourse or thinking/debating, they are about universal discorourse. That's why these churches have these names to begin with.

>>6236371
>protest
Protestants are basically atheists who use the religious nomenclature.

>>6236235
God is not one person.

>>6236235
very truly I tell you, it is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you.

>>6236235
>none of the churches that claim to be the body of Christ are actually the body of Christ
Well, he did give his disciples this instruction:
"Do not tell anyone, 'I am the Messiah".

>>6236235
>lots of ways up the mountain
The Vine has many branches. Some bear fruit, others do not.

>>6236371
eww

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>>6236391
They are idolaters who worship 66 books compiled by politician's cronies they call the word of God.

>>6236392
Unrelated. The church is Christ's body and Christ is one person.

>>6236396
Damn I guess He never said to baptize in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit then.

>>6233530
>Evil depends on point of view.
incorrect.
Good and evil are objective and you know it, we all do.
welcome to the world.

>>6236850
I'm pretty sure he said "blind guide", not, "blind guy". lol.

>>6237087
Yeah, he also says 'Woe to you' instead of 'both of you', but sadly you rarely get the subtitles as a file when you use automatically generated ones.

>>6232111
Hello /jcg/. I seek advice from you. I started exploring my faith half a year ago and started attending a church every Sunday. I left the country for the summer break (university), but only attended church once. For context, I come from an atheist family and didn't want to have that discussion at home. I also didn't keep correspondence, because with each day that passed it felt more awkward and cringey to write back. I skipped the first Sunday. But now I have to square my debts. Sunday church is tomorrow. I don't want to show out of the blue and I also don't want to lie.
What do I write back? How do I communicate that never intended for things to be this way.

>>6237549
I'm unsure if I got your dilemma but in my experience most 'atheists' simply try to be neutral on the matter of religion so if you tell them that you've been attending church lately they likely won't bat an eye and might even support you. In the end, you need to make sure that you do what you feel is the correct choice, not the comfortable one. If you chasing after God angers your family, that's something you need to accept. However, we also have lots of examples in the church of people starting to inquire into the faith simply because a friend or family member started going to church. Keep at it, pray for them and soon enough you will find a suitable solution for yourself and them.
What you however should not do is abandon them. The Lord never said that it's unacceptable for a church member to talk to non-church members. I'm unsure how much of the Bible you read but if you read acts 10 you see that Peter, despite first adhering to the more strict rules the Jews had about not talking to non-Jews, was instructed to talk to all people, regardless of their faith.
Hope this helps, anon

>>6237549
Which is better? Worshipping no one or having a weak god that's also a jewish pedophile?

>>6237549
show up out of the blue, and speak to the priest and tell him, "father, i'm in a difficult situation" you may even be able to discuss this with him in confession, as missing mass on sunday is a mortal sin.
i will tell you what my completely vanilla, timid, mild and quiet priest told me when i asked about the same thing you are going through:
>death and martyrdom is preferable to apostasy.

>>>6238087

Lol if a bunch of 4channers are Gods people I'd rather go to hell

>>6233989
It is basically a parasite destroying Europe.

>>6238131
Everyone is called to be God's child but it's also any person's choice to adhere to that calling

Start praying to God seeking Him. Ask Him to reveal Himself to you. Better yet pray from your heart with your own words and ask God to reveal Himself to you. Start listening to Christian music.

https://youtu.be/kYWN3ywCfSs?si=SQIeaHH4j0_7oI2P
https://m.youtube.com/@RichardLorenzoJr-RROC

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax226mvsokA&pp=ygUMVmxhZCByYW1pcmV6

>>6238198
>Start listening to Christian music.
You mean orthodox chants or cuddly country music?

>>6238198
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNddwDQGI90&list=RDMNddwDQGI90&start_radio=1

>>6238198
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%206%3A9-13&version=NIV

God helped me overcome addiction

>>6238213
9 “This, then, is how you should pray:

“‘Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
10 your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
11 Give us today our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation,[a]
but deliver us from the evil one.[b]’

14 For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.

>>6238216
Dear God please help me. Show me what to do. Reveals yourself to me so I can see You.

>>6238218
Lead me on the right path. Give me guidance.

Read Matthew it's short https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%201&version=NIV

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>>6238198
>Start listening to Christian music.
NTA but here to help anon

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>>6238173

>>6238148
It is basically a medicine healing Europe.

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>>6238323

OP, you have anything with "Blessed art thou O' Lord, teach me thy statutes"?

>>6238960
You mean this one? >>6232315

>>6238963
Ah, apologies, I think I didn't internalize this one existing ITT due to its speedup.

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>No good doctor administers medication to himself.

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>>6239891
>zealotry
whoever does the will of God in heaven is his mother, sister, and brother

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I have come to turn

every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit

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So he made a whip

out of cords

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The Lord has cut me free.

I am
the way and the truth and the life.
No one comes to the Father except through
me.

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Love your neighbor as yourself.

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>>6232414
What a normal, healthy, and masculine thing to say.
Get this man a career at Vice immediately!

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>Even if Jesus was just a righteous man, it is worth making every sacrifice for the sake of his holiness and kindness. Just then, Christ appeared.

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I
who speak to you
am He.

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But what about you?
You have been with me from the beginning.
You also must testify.
Who do you say I am?

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Here I am

The place where you are standing.

All of you will worship God.

I AM is my name forever, unto all that is generated.

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It is I.

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The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.

“I said, ‘You are “gods”;
you are all sons of the Most High.’
But you will die like mere mortals;
you will fall like every other ruler."

>>6238131
you probably will have that option in the afterlife. unless God has mercy on you and puts you in heaven anyway.

>>6237560
no idea what you're talking about

I returned like a dog to his vomit, to porn, which harmed my mind, self image, and even identity somewhat. I feel in the shadow of this sin and I don't know what to do. Certain life events took my life out of my own hands, and I think came to humble me, foster genuine gratitude in me, helped me overcome irritability with people, a problem I had for a long time and affected people in my life, made me think about death, and I was grateful it happened because I think it was good for my soul. The events removed me from the occasion for this sin and I think helped me become sober enough from it to see it more in truth, at least enough to know better than to return to it, but still, days later, I returned to it. I feel like my irritability returned and I've just felt in a bad way since then, the good feelings I had going after the aforementioned life events isn't there, and I woke up one mourning not wanting to get out of bed, just like I did before, no zest for life. I'm a retarded fool and I feel like I've squandered God's grace, and spit on what he gave me. I'm sick and retarded. My cross isn't that heavy, yet here I am.

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>>6232111
Jesus sent me here for some reason. I'm dead serious and seriously confused. I think of myself as someone who isn't ever really confused. Why am I here? Any help would be welcome, cause I really almost didn't get this far. I am very weirded out.

>>6243316
Post your favorite bible verses and a webm about Jesus Christ.

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>>6243316
Anons could tell you any of their opinions on why you were lead here, however none of us were the one guiding you, so it's best you ask Him.

>>6240127
Blessed be the name above all names. Jesus, Son of God, our Savior, our Redeemer, our Advocate.

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Jesus help me please!!!!
Allah 9/11

Thank God for the Orthodox Church. I'm a turbo-NEET and not apart of the church yet, but just knowing that it exists gives me hope that one day I'll have a life. Maybe it will take me 20 years, but I have faith that eventually I will be an Orthodox Christian.

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>>6243944

How do you even repent of in action spitting on a gracious chastening given by God? How do you repent of going right back to the old man of sin like it meant nothing and becoming almost possessed by that way of being?

>>6245418
Repentance isn't just saying you're sorry, it's about having the desire to turn back from the mud you're in back to Christ. That means the resolve you have about not committing your sin again as you talk to your spiritual father needs to translate into you forming your life in a way that makes it easier to keep by Christ's side.
Let's say you always pass by some beggar on your way to work and you never give him money. Next time you walk past your bank you can withdraw some amount and keep it in your pockets, your phone case etc. so you can give it to him quicker than you might have second thoughts. If you find excuses why you should go to the bank then give yourself some structure in life. Let's say you withdraw enough cash to give to him for two weeks, then you make a plan that every other week you go to the bank, be it after getting groceries, after gym, after work etc.
Show Christ you mean it, not by your words but by your actions.
>But what think ye? A certain man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my vineyard. He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went. And he came to the second, and said likewise. And he answered and said, I go, sir: and went not. Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first.
Mat 21:28-31

>>6245657
The 'true orthodox' are not part of the Orthodox Church. If you believe counting days is more important that communion you're doing something wrong.