Back 15-20 years ago, I used to watch these Aeni with English subtitles on a channel called ImaginAsian. Is there anywhere that I can find these subtitles or subtitled episodes?
>>1570392Before you ask, I tried Nyaa and Archive.
>>1570392>Aenilearned a new word todaynever realized gooks tried to steal anime as well as jpophttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZDBkCWhn7E&t=848
>>1570395Part of it stretches back to the dictatorship in the 1980s. The first of that era would have been Dallyeola Hani (which I am slowly working on a translation for, I just need a transcript, though), but the industry slowly grew toward Y2K. Hamos the Green Chariot is among the best, it even received a Japanese dub.Korea still animates, but it is rare.Also HK is the source of Eastern pop music, usually it went HK->J->K->C->T->SEA for just about anything in the 20th century, with animation and puppetry being exceptions.
>>1570396>HK is the source of Eastern pop musicCan you point to examples of this? Not saying you're wrong, just interested in it.Here's an example of a typical progression, in my mind.>anglos release original in 1985https://youtu.be/PmCTnaAR1Ao&t=68>japs immediately make a cover later in 1985https://youtu.be/gWFX_JqYYt8&t=44>hong kong sees what the japs are doing and copy ithttps://youtu.be/SFsXpcijIcw&t=8>south koreans make a soulless plastic shit version many years later https://youtu.be/TcxSbat3hkA&t=25i hate south korea so fucking much bro
>>1570399Anita Mui's Careless Whisper preceded Hiromi Go's version, for example. But specifically the musical techniques as opposed to specific songs, I have a flash drive full of this stuff, just not the keyboard to type it out (and I only know Mandarin and simplified, so I only understand stuff most of the time written and rarely when spoken), so I am going to copy and paste an example: 風的季節, which was a massive hit in the 1980s, did not necessarily affect mainstream pop in Japan until later, but it led to more of those sorts of instruments being featured in songs within a few years in Japan. Also 甄妮明日話今天 is another significant one, you will see what I mean when listening to it, it was quite impactful on Enka music in the long run, especially during its revival when the housing bubble popped.Gookslop is soulless 97% of the time, though. Things were a bit more original in the 1960s, but that is about it. (I'm not a commie, but I honestly have seen more Best Korean animation, though this is often dubbed, which is usually the only option).Only tangentially related, but if you have some spare time, watch the first two McDull films from HK. They are good (and don't worry, they aren't trying to be anime in the slightest). Picrel is the first film, which is pretty comfy desu.
>>1570404>Also 甄妮明日話今天 is another significant one, you will see what I mean when listening to it, it was quite impactful on Enka music in the long run, especially during its revival when the housing bubble popped.I mean, I definitely hear it, but I don't understand your argument about that spurring on Japanese music. Enka existed since the Meiji era, so I see no way it can be claimed that Hong Kong influenced it, Hong Kong didn't really have a culture until the 20th century, before then it was just a big port for opium to be imported to and porcelain to be exported from.Vis-a-vis South Korea, I just hate every aspect of it. I could write a library of books about my hatred of the country, from its foundation to the present day.我也想知道中文但是我覺得聼太苦我以前學好了日語然後覺得我已經讀很多漢字所以學中文滿簡單還是這個語言的聲音死我耳朵對不起我忘記什麽變成繁體到簡字
>>1570411I am not talking about traditional enka from the Meiji period, but rather it's revival circa 1990, which saw a modernization of a melodies, et al. They decided to pull from Chinese (read HK) music for inspiration, which in a sense does make sense, but also because the stuff was already available, it could just be tweaked slightly, since a lot of the themes in the songs matched (unrequited love and all that jazz).
>>1570416Excuse me for the lack of clarity. More traditional instruments were dropped and the genre became commercial a bit. Forgive me.
>>1570417>>1570416I understand what you're saying, but I don't agree. Look at 60s enka for example, which obviously came before the stuff you linked.明日話今天, from 1978 that you posted reminded me of 港町ブルース, from 1969.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k06tSbM1fSshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfIXHG3wTYI
>>1570418I guess the research goes deeper than what I have done, thank you for sharing.
>>1570419Sorry I couldn't help you with the actual point of the thread and just shat it up with this unrelated stuff.Will probably try to watch McDull. Very interested in HK and Cantonese content in general, it sounds so much nicer than Mandarin. Shame it's dying.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VIGXBaB8gU
>>1570420No, it is fine, I like talking about CJK (mostly the C and the J) stuff in general. Blame the CCP for the sanitising of Hong Kong. Most everyone that I know over there hate what they are doing to their city (most refuse to refer to themselves as Chinese too). Should have either stayed British or become another Singapore, if you ask me.
>>1570422Yeah, there's the famous witticism that the British think of Hong Kong as Chinese and the Chinese think of Hong Kong as British. Trying to find good Chinese shit is pretty much impossible, I've basically given up. They have no pop culture of note. They basically only have knock offs of Kdramas in their cdrama, which is already a medium I don't care for, but they somehow do it even worse. Their music is universally awful, largely due to their language sounding horrible to begin with.The only good things I've seen out of them are a handful of kinos filmed extremely quickly, so the party couldn't shut it down, with a shoestring budget, so it didn't attract the attention of the party, and then guess what? It was STILL banned by the party anyway.The problem with China is it's just authoritarian enough that it bans anything good, but not authoritarian enough that its content doubles back and becomes interesting, like, for example, North Korean stuff.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RvcRTyuJ1Y&t=3022Though to be honest, they're just cool in their own right.
>>1570434When their animation industry tries not to emulate Japan's, they make some interesting stuff. Nice Boat Animation is a good studio to check out.
Bump.
