I cannot fucking figure this shit out manI followed a bunch of tutorials, lathered up properly, used the correct shaving angle and still got cuts everywhere even though I didn't even feel anything on my skinAnd the razor stubbornly sticks to each hair and gets stuck in a yanking motion no matter how much lather I use or how long I waited or whether I use a hot towel or not
>>1574484how the fuck do you get a clean smooth effortless shave? electric razors always leave my skin looking black cuz they don't cut smooth enough
>>1574484try different blades and don't shave against the grain
>>1574485I use an electric one.Can you actually FEEL the areas which you think are not clean enough? If you with one hand pull the skin and with the other go over the are against the grain, do feel some stubble?Because if not that already IS the maximum that can be achieved with ANY razor.If not you did not use it properly because in my experience electric razors can absolutely shave everything until the skin feels silky smooth.DO you actually pull the skin when using the razor to give it the best surface to work with? An electric one works best on firm streched skin to prevent any unevenness. And it needs enough time, go over it back and forth at different angles until it audibly catches no more hair.It's also a bit of a learning process how to best operate it, it takes a while.
>>1574492yea I can still feel stubble both with electric and DE razoridk what I'm doing wrong
>>1574484For the most comfortable shave, I use a two-step process. I noticed that using a blade shaver hurts or tugs more if the hairs are long when shaving AND that the tugging is less when the hairs are short or just stubble length.STEP #1: I go over the daily growth with a simple cheap foil electric shaver. It uses two AA batteries and they can be rechargeable NiMH for cheap operation. I go over the growth and that leaves a low stubble. I use a Panasonic ES3831 shaver I bought 15 years ago at $14.95 and it is still working great. You might try other options such as the Braun M60 mobile shaver for about $20:https://www.walmart.com/ip/Braun-M60b-Mobile-Battery-Powered-Electric-Shaver-for-Men/12551547STEP #2:After getting short stubble using the electric shaver, I put some skin lotion on my face. It doesn't need to be thick as it is used for lubrication for the bladed shaver. I use those cheap disposable 3 parallel blade shavers instead of extravagantly-priced gillette. I don't use the nasty bloody safety razer pictured in OP's post. I don't use commercial shaving cream because that is not only messy, but it is smelly. I don't like that strong odor from shaving cream. Yes, I know it works, but skin lotion has been good enough for me decade after decade. One of the advantages of using the electric shaver first is that the shorter stubble is easier and faster to shave. Another advantage is that the amount of tugging or pain from shaving is reduced a lot (for me anyways). Another advantage is that it is easier to apply lubricant for shaving and that the amount needed is less than if longer hairs are present. It's quite possible to get a bunch of shaves out of each disposable razor, so don't toss them after just one shave.
>>1574484Change the blades? They used to sell those sample packs of different brands. Also make a video. I can tell you what went wrong.
seeing this thread makes me happy to see people talking and having a conversation. Wholesome, thank you 4chan :)
>>1574485>electric razors always leave my skin looking black cuz they don't cut smooth enoughThat's especially true of the rotary head shavers. The closest electric shavers are the foil shavers. My own experience matches that. I had Norelco and Remington rotary shavers and they were never as close as my Braun foil shaver.
>>1574556>Braun foil shavermodel number?
How bad are these shaving scars? They still sting a few days later. Did I fuck my face up permanently?
>>1574573Normal for inexperienced use of a blade razor.Unless they get infected these will heal completely.Looked similar after my first tries. Nowadays there are just a few small spots where a little bit of blood comes out, but the skin still FEELS very irritated and itchy like there are micro cuts.That's why I switched to dry electric foil one and it was a revelation. Don't even need any cream or lotion after.
>>1574562>model number?It was a Braun shaver probably 3 models older than the M90 currently out at:https://www.amazon.com/Braun-M90-Mobile-Precision-Trimming/dp/B002TQ4AO0/ Like the M90, it had a rotating protective cover to shield the foil from accidental dents when transporting it. It used two AA batteries and worked very well at full power with NiMH cells. As electric shavers go, I will only use the battery-operated ones with replaceable AA batteries. Any electric shaver with built-in rechargeable batteries is basically a planned obsolescence device. The batteries will wear out long before the foil wears out.4chan moot's Electric Foil Shaver Method for closest shaves:STEP #1: Shave as you normally do with the foil shaver. As it shaves you hear the tinkle sound of hairs being cut and the sound eventually stops as the shaver can't reach any lower to cut the hairs. You notice upon touching that there is still some some stubble you can feel.STEP #2:As per moot, without turning on the shaver, hold it horizontally and stroke it up and down your face. You will feel the holes in the foil snag the stubble. This causes the hair to be lifted higher up.STEP #3:Shave again. You hear the tinkle of the stubble hairs being cut. This occurs because step #2 caused the hairs to be pulled outwards slightly which allowed a little bit of stubble to be cut. Your face is definitely smoother now. Repeat step #2 if you think there is still some stubble left to be cut.Congratulations. You have applied the "4chan moot" clever method of getting a closer shave with an electric foil shaver. Thanks, moot.>>1574573Apply the clever "4chan moot" method of using an electric foil shaver and that horizontal stubble will be gone. You'll still have tiny black dots for the tops of the stubble, but a lot of the stubble is definitely removed.Picture is when Attack on Titan was used to promote a hair removal product for men's faces.
For my main electric razor I am very satisfied with Panasonic. First one was a Panasonic and it has been one ever since.Currently I am using an ES-RT67, but razor models die and change like flies and that one is already unavailable on most shopping sites.But from my experience Panasonic is always a good choice.
>>1574576>>1574530thanks, brosany recommendations for rechargeable batteries + charging station brand?
>>1574562It was the older model of this similar version. That older model used two AA batteries. I will ONLY buy electric shavers (or electric toothbrushes) that I can replace the batteries. Otherwise, the rechargeable batteries go back in two years due to planned obsolescence that forces you to buy another. I recommend that you always check and verify that you can replace the batteries which will typically be AA type batteries. If you use NiMH cells, it makes shaving very very cheap.https://www.amazon.com/Braun-M90-Mobile-Precision-Trimming/dp/B002TQ4AO0/I think I paid $23.97 for it way back then.The advantage of cordless battery-operated electric shavers is that you can take them to work with you. You can then do a touch-up fast shave later in the day to reduce the problem of the classic "5 o'clock Shadow". And if you're travelling a lot, a portable cordless shaver is also convenient.The very first Panasonic ES3831 foil shaver I purchased was at Fry's Electronics for $9.95. Inflation has been unkind to the price of this shaver.I use NiMH AA cells from either IKEA or Duracell. Both brands deliver their listed capacity unlike the vast majority of Made-in-China cells.. In my opinion, reasonable NiMH chargers don't apply more than 10% of the max mAH capacity to conserve lifespan. Thus, a cell with 2400 mAH (miliamp hours) capacity would be charged at 240 mA (0.1C). Fast chargers use higher rates and thus shorten the life of the cells due to outgassing. Unfortunately, fast charging is popular because people don't like to wait.IKEA LADDA NiMH are 4 for $12https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/ladda-rechargeable-battery-hr06-aa-1-2v-50504692/If you use IKEA's STENKO charger, it has a somewhat high charging rate that varies depending on how many batteries you put into it. One or two batteries means 700mA charging current to each cell. Four batteries means 350 mA is used to charge.https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/stenkol-battery-charger-50506525/
Buy a oneblade retard.
My grandfather had one of these including the slot in the wall to dump the old blades, when we had to replace the water heater there was hundreds of rusty blades all over the ground.
>>1574484I bought a Henson last month and I struggled the one time I tried using it. I hear trying out different blades is good. Some are better than others. You can get sample packs from Amazon.
>>1574484Try shaving gel I guess. Also some of the modern gillette razors are really good
>>1574484The way you write it's like you've now done it once, and you're surprised that you've cut yourself. I think the number one thing you have to do is just practice.The only way to get a cut is when the skin rides up into the small gap between blade and guard. You literally cannot get cut otherwise because that's where the edge is and if your skin does not go in there it can't get cut. Keep the skin taut. You're supposed to pull all sorts of stupid faces so your kids start pulling faces behind you forgetting that there's a mirror there. Those faces help pull the skin tight.What silly person told you to use a hot towel? Warm water is better than hot, and you don't need warm water, cold works too and cold actually tightens the skin. The idea of water is to weaken the keratin in the hair. Hot water increases skin irritation. Cold water may affect the way the razor glides over your skin.If the razor is yanking chances are your hairs are too long for shaving, the razor can't get to them to cut them off and it's pulling on a bunch at once. People trim their beards with shears or scissors before shaving. It's only the old straight razor that works for long beards without trimming first. You need to rinse your blade frequently too. Those old style safety razors are better than modern disposables but they clog. You to be rinsing them maybe after after stroke because they can clog with hair and skin and then they'll pull hairs really well. Another thing that causes yanking is a dull blade. Not every blade comes sharp, they should but they don't, so maybe a different brand would be better. If you thoroughly dry the blade, that means rinsing it so there's no hair or skin on it, it won't rust so fast. You don't even have to be able to see it, microscopic pitting can weaken and dull the blade. I take mine out because getting to the bottom side can be hard, and I wipe it on a towel.Like I wrote, the number one thing is practice.
I was extra retarded snd shaved my balls a few weeks ago, like a month of hell of itchyness afterwards.
>>1574678Do home electrolysis kits work on removing those hairs?
>>1574484Didn't expect to see a thread about this lol.I actually bought a full safety razor kit this morning, after seeing how pricey Fusion 5 blades had gotten for me and how much money I was dumping into them while they only lasted a few months, for reference, 16 blades cost about $48 when discounted.Also, I was already thinking about ditching them, since I always ended up with itchy and red skin unless i applied an Aloe after shaving cream (and sometimes i still got irritations even after using that cream).So before buying the Fusion 5s I researched for a bit and decided to get this stuff instead: a King C. Gillette Razor (apparently more forgiving for starters), a synthetic brush, a Proraso shaving soap bowl for sensitive skins and an Astra Platinum pack of 100 blades (sharp enough for coarse hair, but coated in platinum so it won't shred sensitive skins), I got all of this for about $34.
>>1574484>>1574485Several passes. Shave after shower or bath, so hair is easier to shave. Use proper shaving cream, or at least gel. Warm, not hot water, helps with openins your skin's pores. Make faces and pull your skin when you shave, whatever feels necessary. Your razor may have weird angles across your face. That's okay. Use cold water when rincing and cleaning your razor.What works for me is, first pass with the grain. This leaves some stubble, but is acceptable enough for work and daily activities.When I wanna shave properly, I do a second pass across the grain. Not against, but across the grain, washing with warm water and reapplying lather. You DON'T need to press your skin lile crazy. Let your razor glide across your skin. It's weight and gravity will do the rest. Go slower for the second pass across, you're liable to get nicks.When done, get a shaving stick to stop any bleeding. Use an alcohol free after shave (and shaving cream while we're at it). Wash your face with cold water, it closes the skin's pores.In other words: PRACTISE. Ypu'll save so much money long term with DE razors, plus you'll feel like a gigachad while shaving.
>>1574982Hey guys, my stuff just arrived about an hour ago, here's my setup (pic related), I'll try shaving in a little while.Also, huge thanks to >>1575022 who replied right after me with those tips, I'm definitely going to apply them to my shave too.
>>1575033Sorry for the late update, but it went pretty well! Like an 8/10. I only got 2 small cuts (which I used to get with my Fusion 5 anyway), but my skin feels much smoother. I only did wtg passes for this first time. As others have said, it definitely takes practice, but making faces to stretch the skin and letting the weight of the razor glide helps a lot, thank you bros! To be fair, my skin burnt just a bit at first, both during and after the shave, but it was bearable. I guess the alum block I used was the reason it stung, so just to be safe, I washed my face with cold water after using it and I applied my emollient cream. Felt much better after a few minutes and left my face feeling great.Hope this update can help others!
>>1574484Dude, its simpleHot towel on the face, or focus hot stream of shower on your face before leaving shower.ALSO Don't buy cheap blades, that should be priority
>>1574678You learned to not shave shorter than half an inch.
>>1574484>I cannot fucking figure this shit out manLong ago, I found out that shaving longer hairs is more painful than shaving short stubble. So I go over the face with a cheap electric shaver to make sure everything is very short stubble. Then I pat the face with water and apply a little bit of skin lotion which adds lubrication for the razor to slide over the skin.Shavedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZdkN2Q7nmI
Using a foil shaver, I hold it horizontally for most of the shaving. But to get a closer shave, I then orient it vertically on a final pass for the stubble under my nose. That usually catches the remaining stubble and gets a closer shave.
>>1574484>and still got cuts everywhere even though I didn't even feel anything on my skinI get that on the first 2-3 days on a fresh blade, after that I get a couple months of use out of a blade? Not sure how long, never counted. I don't really see the small knicks as a problem, they heal in almost no time I must say something I haven't seen in all the posts so far. If you are reusing a blade and there's a decent chance of any knick, use should have disinfected the blade before shaving. A quick spray of some alcohol will kill everything on that seemingly clean looking metal edge. Rubbing alcohol into a cut to clean it isn't as effective as having a clean cut
Try mixing shaving cream with hot water instead of a hot towel.Get in the shower, wet your face with hot water, lather on the cream.
I seem to only get like 4 uses from a disposable razor, shits expensive.
As others have mentioned, the shave gel and blades matter. Try a sample pack of blades. My recommendation for shave gel is the Gilette Fusion Pro Sensitive line. I almost never get nicks/cuts with it.
>>1574484Adhere to this. Do not shave against the grain>used the correct shaving angleI think you might not be, do not be too sure of yourself. It's paramount that it's neither too steep nor too flat, because both will cause you to "get stuck". The best way to get better when shaving with a safety razor, shavette or straight razor is to keep asking yourself "what am I doing wrong", even when you think you're doing it right.The problem could also be that you're not applying the correct pressure; this can be really hard to figure out, and it's something you'll have to develop a feel for. All guides say "no pressure, let the razor's weight do it for you" which is fucking dumb because it's not like your jawline is large enough to generate its own gravity from every angle. Too light pressure will cause that "getting stuck" and make the razor "hop" across your face.What you also might be interested in is oiling up: wash your beard, warm it up, dry, apply a layer of oil (olive oil works well, but seed oils or whatever work too) and then your lather. It reduces friction.Good luck!
>>1574484>buy one of these, 50$ off some reputable brand>cuts everywhere, feels like hellraiser irl>back to a normal gilette one>smooth as a baby, no cuts>i've been scammed by the tiktokers
>>1576745That's one of the things that makes safety razor (the kind OP posted) attractive: you can get a 100 pack of decent razors for about 10 bucks, each lasting 2-5 shaves, depending on your beard.
>>1574484Get a razor with a better design to eliminate the cuts.
>>1574484Get a Philips OneBlade. That gives me the smoothest shave I've ever found.
>>1574484your blade is blunt.