can someone explain to me why cyberpunk is considered retrofuturism, please?
>>15761271We can imagine the future today. Good (utopian) or bad (dystopian) and so on. 2People also did this in the past. For example, imagine a Sci-Fi writer in the 1940s imagining the future. This often looks very different to our modern imagination. So we call it retro-futurism retro-futurism = how people at a different era in the past imagined the future3'Cyber punk', as a genre of literary writing, came about in the 1960s and 1970s So many consider it retro-futurism when talking about the origins, key authors, key novels, etc.NOTE:This isn't a strict rule. The genre still exists today. It's like 'metal music' - it changes over the years and new sub-genres come and go. But sometimes academics want to be specific about where 'it came from'.
when william gibson wrote neuromancer, did he imagined how the future will look like or he just created a world set in a gictional future that had nothing to do with how he imagined the future will be?
>>1576131forgot to quote you with my post >>1576132
>>1576132Well that's a question for the author. One which you can research.Given that cyber punk as a genre is not really bothered about realism too much we might safely assume Gibson is creating an fantasy world as a creative tool to convey meaning rather than some sort of attempt to predict the future.
>>1576134so...can we say cyberpunk isnnt retrofuturism?
I recommend you check out this youtube vid. It's about the sci fi 'new wave' movement. Cyber punk came from that. It'll help you get an idea where that cyber punk style came from. And why that style is tied firmly to that erahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVUYmW0T07o
>>1576127cyberpunk is "retrofuturism" in the sense that writers from the 80s thought people in the far future would still be using CRTs and tape decks and fax machines and such
>>1576137check that vid I linked....so... we could say... 'if we write a cyber punk novel today, then how can it be retro?'. we can answer that even though we wrote it today, the flavour and style is so strongly tied to a specific movement that it 'belongs' to that era. I think of it like... a band can write blues music in 2026, and we still call it blues. It might be a new sub-genre (texas blues or whatever), but at it's core it's blues. If it changes enough though we might call it something else, e.g. rock vs metalRemember this is all fluid though, and not everything fits in a neat box.
>>1576140absolutely wrong
>>1576139and then watch his other vid on cyberpunkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeCJF7sLI4U
>>1576145>>1576143>>1576139thx very much. ill check the videos
so I've wztched the videos. if I understood it well, it says that science fiction went from space stories to more "down to earth" stories (things in the future happens no more in space but 9n earth). about cyberpunkpunk, I'd say it became popular and everything that becomes popular lose its soul
>>1576131>It's now 25+ years later and we still don't have our bat wings or at least a jetpack.I feel ripped off.
>>1576148Remember it was just some writers. Lots of others still write about utopia. There are many genres. Cyberpunk = dystopia, unfair or shitty life for many people (inequality), and technologythe heroes in the stories are typically 'normal' everyday peoplethey typically 'fight the system' >I'd say it became popular and everything that becomes popular lose its soulIt mirrors punk music. At one time it was very extreme and shocking. It was youthful and very rebellious. Now you can hear punk style music on tv shows and adverts. I has not shock value. The fashion has also separated from it's political ideology.
>>1576127>cyberpunk is considered retrofuturismby who, exactly?
>>1576273some users on /v/ said it, I was in the thread
>>1576131>1960s and 1970sThe term "cyberpunk" was coined in 1980. Its setting was the present, which was then the future. Whereas steampunk's present was in the author's past (e.g., The Difference Engine). That, I argue, is retrofuturism.
>>1576315>some users on /v/ said iti have a bridge you might want to buy
>>1576348I know, /v/ isn't reliable but I didn't have the arguments on why cyberpunk isn't retrfuturism so I had to read theirs on why it is retrofuturism
