Anons here with girlfriends and wives, just how effective are tantric spells compared to regular ars goetia? How has tantra improved your life?https://youtu.be/JzjDnczI3JQ
>>42345398I am a level 10 tantra expert, but I still need a cute girl to practice it on...
>>42345467>I practice black tantra, so I sleep around a lotTeach us your secrets, anon!
>>42345398>Anons here with girlfriends and wivesThat was your first mistake in asking here
lol
>>42345398Does gooning until I cry count?
>>42345725Depends how you focus your practice. Tantric masturbation exists after all
>>42345814What does it allow to do?
>>42345398this might be of interest to you
>>42346809Definitely useful resources. I just started tantra because when I tell women I know how to deliver tantric massages they all ask me to show them. Not only does it allow you to awaken your third eye, its also a nice way to get pussy easily
>>42347380Does it really allow to awaken the third eye? And what does it imply?
>>42347380How difficult is it to practice tantra?
>>42345697Why? You DO have a girlfriend to practice tantra with, right anon?
>>42347626As I stated its not necessary, self pleasure or sleeping around is also allowed in tantra
>>42346809Definitely an useful resource to gain more power through tantra
Mgtow is the only way. Get the fuck away from women if you still got any semblance of self respect.
>>42349715What makes women so evil?
>>42349715So if I jerk off a fellow man, will that make my tantra more powerful?
>>42350236Yes, particularly if his penis goes inside you, he can fill you up with mystical power
>>42345572I bet it's fat chicks
>>42352054Fat chicks are the best, they have more love handles and bigger chi reserves
>>42352129>bigger chi reservesYou make a good argument, but if they are to the point of diabetes that must result in a chi malus.
>>42352135What about stds? Does tantra cover them?
>>42352420No, that's t he main reason India is in so much shit. You need a powerful body to repel stds with your soul
>>42345814>Tantric masturbation exists after allGo on
>>42352673In the Western world its called "gooning"
>>42352707And in eastern tradition you need a special mantra while you are doing this, it goes like this:>Uuuoooooooh>Uuuoooooooh>Uuuooooooohrepeat
>>42352673Just masturbating with very specific intentions and images on your mind, like to charge a Sigil.Sex and masturbation are so effective because theres so much raw human intention behind it, its almost a form of meditation.
>>42345712Heh
>>42352768>like to charge a Sigilgo on?i'm a tourist btw but i don't coom that often anyways, like once or twice per month
>>42345398be careful. those who aren't healed are driven mad or even killed.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MPHyR92MQic&ra=m
>>42352729Isn't that when you see a particularly nubile and exiting sight? like cute prime tummy and footsies UOOOOOOOH!>>42352768What have you funneled it into? What magical effects does it allow?
>>42352868Does this truly work?
Only about 10% of Tantra is about sex. Westerners really twisted its meaning
>>42353141So much this. Tantra is a lot more than sex and i would strongly recommend against practicing Tantric sex rituals with someone you are not married to. The 112 techniques of meditation are Tantra. I unknowingly performed one while tripping on acid and had a full blown kundalini event and an oout of body experience. I had been celibate for a short while leading up to it as well. No sex, no wanking none of that involved in the experience at all. If you think sexual Tantra is the way you are probably just dumb and horny.
>>42355232What is the best way to begin?
>>42355432Go back to the source
>>42355490Would that be...unbirth?
>>42356530No, where did you get that idea?
>>42356857Just wondered what anon means by source
Here's a very good tantric fragment>When you withdraw your attention from external things and turn it inward, resting simply as awareness itself, the restless mind becomes still. In that stillness the separate self dissolves and you abide as the vast, unobstructed consciousness in which all appearances arise and subside. Remain with that single taste of being — neither grasping nor rejecting — and the deepest secrets of reality reveal themselves.I always use it to feel better
>>42345467>jeffry e also was crazy on this shit as well, just look at his book list and what he was doingqrd?
What is the best method to reach tantra?
>>42345398It's like you simply assume all tantric magic involves sex and requires a partner. That's a highly westernized neo-tantric viewpoint. Tantric magic in the wider sense can include things like puja focusing on a murti, or meditation on a yantra or mandala. There's also the black magic stuff that resembles sympathetic magic, and sacrifices, but again with that sort of stuff people in the west tend to sensationalize and overly focus on it to the exclusion to the more common bhakti, sadhanas or tapas.
>>42358253Damn, truly living the life!>>42360355Because its far more interesting. Meditation is boring, but learning tantric massage and how to make women orgasm with your mind is cooler and allows to pick up girls.
Is it true that inserting penis in vagina increases your magical powers?
>>42345398>>42345467Uh hold on a second. Do neither of you know much of anything about Tantra? I'm not deeply familiar with Vajrayana or Kashmir Shivaism, as a couple of examples, but I do at least understand the meta and how they relate to it. In my system, Tara, Shakti and Mary Magdalene unite as three pathways to the same Anima if that means anything to you. I think what you're doing is making up a bunch of random shit that is incoherent and doesn't actually mean anything. I think you got all your info from "le wiccan" tiktok thots who always talk about Astrology but have never read the basics. I think you're posers.>I practice black tantraThat's something you just made up and you're retarded.>vampiric kindYou're utterly confused and this is insulting. You don't know what a "Vampire" is and it's apparent. If you'd like to learn more, you're going to begin by looking up the term "Oupire" or "Upiór". >I sleep for only 2-4 hours and I can run a marathon for the other 20Are we talking about the same fucking things here? What the fuck is going on?
>>42346809 is a bunch of saturated and trite bullshit that will take forever for you to digest. You need to spend four years just figuring out what the fuck this shit is even trying to communicate.How about you retards just do this instead:Begin by training Neuroplasticity (look it up on youtube or AI or some shit). You'll probably start by learning to brush your teeth with your non-dominant hand. Next, you want to look up Pranayama and get a good basic understanding of breathing exercises, which AI/youtube can help you with again. Start doing at least somewhat regular meditation routines. Realize that a lack of physiological change or stimulation means you're not doing anything and thus wasting your time. You need to practice modular control of hormonal secretion until it can be both passive and active. The basics will constitute active secretion of noradrenaline and oxytocin for examples. You'll achieve this by breath holds or long exhales alongside dramatic inhalation patterns. You'll see what I mean if you actually try.Next, you're going to look up Guru Yoga and either apply that to yours or you'll use a stand in yourself (be creative - I'm not going to hold your hand). After working through these beginning stages, you'll eventually learn about something called Deity Yoga. This is where you get to choose your favorite deity like a DnD character and align yourself closely with said deity. You're best off choosing something that appeals to your genetics (your genetic lineage has its own egregore).This is the general meta. You can get caught up in all the other shit if you really want to, but I don't suggest it. This will get you farther and quicker. Ignore the retards trying to talk you out of it. Call them gamer words.
>>42353141>>42355232>>42355432>>42356530No one has made any attempt to discuss anything remotely resembling "Tantra" in this thread before I arrived.What the fuck, you guys? The internet really is dead, isn't it?>>42358253God damn do none of you guys have any grasp of the meta at all?For a couple hundred years now at least, the meta is some sort of Western framework coupled with Tantra. It's what all of the big Western le occultist guys have been doing for some time now. Don't take my word for it. Go ask your favorite AI or some shit.>>42360306There's not a "best method" and if someone tells you there is, call them a nigger.>>42360355Very well done until muh "black magic stuff" which is genuinely not real.Don't get me wrong, some retard might do it, but all this reference to "black magic" all of you have is literally just Cargo Cult shit that even the people practicing it (which I'm not saying they're not doing to be clear) are entirely clueless about. The whole kill an animal thing was to thank the gods for the sustenance. "Animal Sacrifice" was literally some guy slaying a domesticated beast to consume it. The continuation of the ritual isn't some nefarious, organized human endeavor. This is such lazy and ridiculous rhetoric and it feels really childish for people to continue parroting this kind of shit.>>42362498Yes. Quite literally, yes.
>>42364313>Yes. Quite literally, yes.How different is that from inserting into anus?
>>42364898That one robs your energy
>>42364313>some retard might do it>which I'm not saying they're not doing to be clearSo which is it? Are they doing or not doing it? You're arguing all over your own dick and butthole. Black magic that employs the help of pisachas and bhutas is an actual practice, and it exists in some portions within Bengali Shaktism for example. Do I like it? No. But you're doing a no-true-scotsman, which isn't "very well done". In fact, it's just another form of Westernized myopia. If you want to call it some "cargo cult" "jungle voodoo" bullshit, that's up to you. But it does exist within tantric traditions, which aren't all the same.
>>42365357I think you're misunderstanding the language in use here. I definitely said people sacrifice animals. I then went on to explain that what most people accuse as "le awful, like, animal-hurting". Well, you know, people did have to survive by hurting poor little animals for all of human history, bud. It's sort of funny that you'd sit here gawking about humans satiating themselves and how demonic it is. Yes, we've ritualized it. Why are you trying to make it so weird and evil?>le black magicBuddy, we're in a thread about Tantra. You literally have no idea what's going on at all, do you?This is fucking maddening. Why do you keep throwing around fucking "black magic" like you don't know the fundamentals are predicated on non-dualism like Shivaism? Get a grip.>b-but what about these times when people, like, kill animals?I just frankly reject your dichotomized framing, anon. Yes, I recognize what they say they're doing. They're just ritualizing cargo cult practices which stem from literal consumption of meat. Calling shit "black magic" just because some retard said it was le evil this one time when you were around is annoying. Maybe I'm sperging because I like non-dual systems and you annoyingly keep calling shit "black magic" when you don't seem to understand Vamachara just means "unorthodox", but I have to insist that this behavior is insulting. These are residual cargo cult practices. No, apparently I cannot not be verbose about this.
>>42365425No, you get a grip. Not only is tantra not just about sex, it is also not just about sanitized Shaivism. You're the only one dichotomizing anything here. I'm observing tantra as a whole, even the parts I don't like. Who the hell is demonizing anything or anyone here? I'm making descriptive statements. I don't even have a moral judgement attached to the use of the term "black magic". It's vernacular. Trust me, you are not the sane one here. And yes, you're sperging without direction. This was my original statement>There's also the black magic stuff that resembles sympathetic magic, and sacrifices, but again with that sort of stuff people in the west tend to sensationalize and overly focus on it to the exclusion to the more common bhakti, sadhanas or tapas.I repeat>ut again with that sort of stuff people in the west tend to sensationalize and overly focus on it to the exclusion to the more common bhakti, sadhanas or tapas.So I ask you again: how the damned fuck AM **I** the one demonizing any person or practice? I am observing that that shit exists. Do I like it? No. Is it tantra? Yes. Why? Because I don't get to erase a whole person's existence simply by throwing my preferred definitions at him.
>>42365460>No, you get a grip. Not only is tantra not just about sexUh... what? Dude are you fucking okay?>You're the only one dichotomizing anything here.Okay, are you a real fucking person?What's 8 + hamburger?
>>42365470>obviously has nothing to sayYeah, because you finally realized I was cautioning people against sensationalizing "le evil" "black magic". How the fuck are you transcending any dualities if you're this retardedly stuck on "evil" and "good" anyway?
>>42365475It's evident you're totally uninformed. I have a lot to say and I said a lot. No one in the thread has even mentioned the fundamentals yet besides me.Why are you niggers gatekeeping this so hard?
>>42366556That's so cool. I mostly focused in the tantric massage methods to try to get women to orgasm harder. But your energy drain technique does seem useful
Question about this subject I once was laying in bed about to masturbate like normalFor some reason I just started rubbing the frenulem of my penis with one finger in a circular motion It started feeling really good and I was getting extremely excited and wetNo cum precum I kept going for what seemed like 20 minutes an Then my whole body just felt like it was goneI was in heaven (figuratively) Everything felt unbelievable greatIt wasn't an orgasm I think but it was so intense and long lasting I got scared and stopped Was that tantric magic?
>>42366604>"Black Tantra is a controversial and largely secretive, high-intensity tantric path focusing on the more taboo topics relating to death, desire, and intense sexual energy."Oh okay so then just normal ass Tantra then, right?>new age bullshitIf I didn't think "new age" was a gatekeeping cop out, yes, I'd probably fling it at you right now. What they mean to convey when they start hurling around new ages is they're annoyed you only have superficial understanding of these subjects and, like any good dabbler at best, all you really do is say nothing in between a few terms you learned, hoping we'll fill all the gaps in for you. It's really desperate and shallow. This place used to be a place where autistic people or otherwise intelligent people (meaning people with annoying levels of fixations on one subject or just people who know a lot about them) would gather and discuss their interests at a noticeably high level. Now all these brown people and unserious women have flooded these spaces a la Gamergate and all of our hang out spots are devoid of the same equitable comrade and cooperation we all initially came here for. This flippant and terse approach you have and attitude about our space is frankly extremely annoying.>I was doing a metaphorYou're trying to frame what you're doing as "bad shit, nigga", but the problem with that is, as I've explained, my exposure to Tantric systems has been non-dual foundationally. I'm not sure what you guys are doing, but either I'm way more green than I thought (which is comically strange since I'm demonstrably more competent than you are) or you're just posers pretending. The latter seems way more accessible to me and especially when I have Occam's ear.>my limited semanticsAt least this is a somewhat relieving conclusion, I guess, which sort of tempers my aspergers.>>42366620It's imperative that you close this tab and never return.
Sex became a rarity after she got pregnant. I don't even feel like masturbating anymore.
>>42366632>It's imperative that you close this tab and never return.Lol why? Did I unlock some secret and shouldn't share to others?I'm sorry but I believe in no secrets
>>42366674>Which is funny seeing how tantra originates from Vedic (India--> Brown people) cultureI know you're just doing ragebait so I'll bump your thread here, but this is very wrong. Your thread isn't about the MC1R allele but I'd be glad to turn it into that if you'd like. Do you want to discuss how the Celtic and Vedic systems are so similar too?I'll just say you're wrong and save you.Please don't post the second part.
>>42366699>Have some humilitycheckAlso no and fuck you.
How come europeans didn't figure out tantra yet India did?
Aww come on guys we were having fun don't delete them.
>>42366640Damn, that really sucks anon
What is the maximum level of supernatural power a tantra master can achieve compared to a buddhist or shaman?
>>42368700India had the perfect conditions to develop it. Here is an useful resource to understand ithttps://youtu.be/CHFzbDzIJmc
>>42370521well a tantric master arouses the sexual energy, amplifies it, maintains it and ultimately transmutes it. A buddhist master uses detachment and insight. A shaman gets empowerment from the plant spirit, he uses other methods as well.the maximum level of all paths results in enligthenment. It could be measured in how charismatic, staunt or liberating the person is.A glance from a jnani could change your life forever.
>>42371289I want to fart lightning at my enemies but I wonder if tantra is the way to achieve this
>>42345398can I get my religious php aunty to sign up to this so i can finally see her get dicked down by a bwc? If not then im outta here chuds
>>42352868i like your words magic man
>>42372716That sounds quite hot. What is the best tantra position?
I started the Six Centers and the Serpent Power by Arthur Avalon. Is that a good starting point to learn tantra?>This deals with a particular form of tantric yoga known as Kundalini Yoga or Bhüta-shuddhi which refers to the Kundalini Shakti or Supreme Power in the human body by the arousing of which the Yoga is achieved. The Goddess form is that of a coiled serpent in the lowest bodily centre at the base of the spinal column. Kundalini is the divine cosmic energy in bodies.Is this a correct interpretation and translation of tantra for beginners?
>>42374261That is indeed a great start, anon
>>42374496Are there any better books?
Can a tantra master summon energy blasts?
>>42364287>Begin by training Neuroplasticity (look it up on youtube or AI or some shit). You'll probably start by learning to brush your teeth with your non-dominant hand.I see you making a lot of posts these days, how about making a thread about this. But I will never practice anything that requires being dependent on some Deity though so I don't like the idea of deity yoga.Have you considered looking into nootropics like I discuss in my thread (there are some things like enhance neuroplasticity) - >>42366319
>>42374645I'm not saying this is better, but it has plenty of references to the original tantric sage/practitioners. It was written by a living Trika Shaivism master. He also does retreats and shit, if you're well off. I doubt sex rituals are part of the programs, but I wouldn't be surprised if you could connect to individuals/groups who are into that.
>>42352768>Sex and masturbation are so effective because theres so much raw human intention behind it, its almost a form of meditationIn particular the climax itself. Work toward a mind-blowing one and then attempt to extend it as long as possible. Orgasm feels so good because you get to temporarily go no-mind and experience the bliss of god/non-existence for a little while. It's not for nothing that the French nickname for orgasm is "the little death."
>>42375152>I doubt sex rituals are part of the programs, but I wouldn't be surprised if you could connect to individuals/groups who are into that.Thanks anon I will check it out. I heard there are tantra resorts who offer orgies and group rituals.
>>42375205Is it really that useful?
>>42375152How many pages?
>>42376030Main text 361 pp. With back matter out to 395 pp. She's a thicc tome.
>>42376110I like THICC!
Will practice some tantra today, wish me luck, anon!
>>42345398Will tantra help me pick up girls? Is this PUA?
>>42378891No, its a complete spiritual path, anon
>>42345398>just how effective are tantric spells compared to regular ars goetiaNeither is more "effective", its just that the whole philosophy and end goal is different. Compare a Solomonic evocation to how Guru Rinpoche bound the Gyalpo spirits of Tibet to protect and uphold the Dharma. The former is all about outward projection of authority in service of an ego, be that the magician or the god whose power he invokes/identifies himself with, the latter is about inward transformation of phenomena towards the dissolution of the ego
>>42368700Europeans are a young peopleEven arabs had to teach them how to read
>>42380459Agreed, its impressive just how effective tantra masters are
>ctrl f tao 0 results>ctrl f circulation 0 results>ctrl f jen-mo 0 resultsnufags gonna nufag. its over for yousad, many such cases ect ect
>>42381316How does circulation work, anon?
>>42380381But what is the point of dissolving the ego?
>>42380381Why would you want to dissolve the ego?
>>42383111Its the cause of all suffering
Do you think PUA culture goes along well with Tantra?
>>42384605Yeah as a matter of fact its based on this one
>>42384605PUA IS Tantra in its most pure way
>>42384605whats PUA?
>>42386004Pick up artists, they are experts at getting girls and specialize in tantric massageshttps://youtu.be/W35O0TfnuMw
>>42386869Aren't they too attached to the material?
>>42374645This book https://ia801602.us.archive.org/35/items/folder-20230407-20/Kundalini%20Tantra.pdf The material here is really good
>>42368924I was banned on an unrelated note.Stop having your ego so high up your ass that you think the jannies give two shits that some random contradictory autist was getting called out.
>>42387352It's really easy to get the jannies all worried, you faggot. Weird projection though.
>>42388422You literally called yourself an aspergers faggot, dumbass, have you already forgot?
>>42388455I don't even like asparagus, dude.
>>42375152Any anon has successfully applied the precepts of this book?
>>42389730I took what I needed and formed something parallel to what it teaches. Kashmir Tantric Shaivism is what you're looking for to actually understand it. Everyone gets annoyed when you absorb features of their system into a syncretized system (I like to think if you upset everyone equally, you're doing something right), but nonetheless that's exactly what I've done.Shiva and Shakti's union is a core focus of the general spiritual meta. The non-dual union of the opposites is necessarily a featured process within that meta. It seems all of Adepthood converges on non-dual themes, which is prerequisite to fully manifest the proper psychological conditions as one travels through the full cycle of Samsara. This is Tantric Yoga, sure, but it's also the Alchemical Wedding. It's the Hazel and the Apple, it's Jesus and Mary as The Bridegroom and Sophia, Apollo and Artemis, the Twins.I think you're looking for "Bhakti Yoga", anon. Does that explain some things?
>>42389790Thanks anon, I definitely will try!
>>42389790>I took what I needed and formed something parallel to what it teachesso, did you circulate your each others tao for infinite sex and infinite, constant orgasm without any loss of of energy, actually on the contrary, increasing each others life forces? because thats one of the main points why thats done at alli mean, theoretically i would know how to do it but try to find a girl thats pure in mind and body and willing to experiment in 21th century
>>42387317What is material about pussy?
>>42391741It is the origin of all things, its pure heaven
>>42390758>so, did you circulate your each others tao for infinite sex and infinite, constant orgasm without any loss of of energy, actually on the contrary, increasing each others life forces?If someone convinced you that le doing Tantra involves physical intercourse with another human, please laugh at them for me. Thank you.
>>42392249Any other anon feels like pussies are magical?
>>42394115They are the source of everything in the universe, so yeah they definitely are
>>42393763dont (you) me you filthy profanoid
Will read more tantra today, wish me luck!
>>42395858How did it go, anon? Did you pick any hot women to practice in?
>>42396969tantra isn't just sex you retard faggot
>>42396971If it isn't sex then what is it?
>>42374261Amazing start, enjoy anon!
>>42395538You're going to give me everything. I won't have to ask for it. You'll gleefully offer it to me. You won't just not recognize me, you'll be convinced I'm someone else. Everything you have will be mine.Oh and just to spite you even more, I'm going to learn all sorts of inventive ways to explain everything to them so even the dullest can get something useful out of it.You had your day. Mine will end too. Get over it.
>>42398661Would you mindcontrol an anon and take his bussy using tantric chi?
>>42374261>>42396971Sexual tantra is maybe like 5% of tantric practices - but gets 99% of the attention and money from middle aged yoga moms.Most tantric practices look more like hours of daily mantra chanting with fire rituals, water rituals, charity, visualization on the deity, energizing an idol or yantra. The mantra awakens a chakra and the deity is perceived in the chakra, and a feeling of "I am such and such deity" is a common milestone in the practice after a few hundred hours. The union you attain is with the deity, not with a seedy orgy with a sex yoga instructor.Books like Mantra Mahodadhi give numerous tantra sadhanas, and when reading it you get the feeling the general process is the same for most of them - although secret sects may have special rules.Some dudes have a very similar practice of mantra + daily homa and follow this for decades.
>>42400309Yes but its the most interesting form of tantra. We need prime 20 something to get addicted to it OR acquire abilities to get them attracted to anon
>>42400795Precisely the best part of tantra
Will try a ritual to enter the path of samsara through a poweful orgasm. Wish me luck, anon
>>42402087How did it go?
>>42402087Isn't this just gooning?
>>42389147typo I meant aspergers
>>42345697These fags always have the same haircut.
>>42404491Its the "pick up hippie girls for a one night stand" haircut
>>42404491And yet it never fails
How is your tantra practice going, anon?
>>42407213Not very well, its a struggle to focus the sexual energies
>>42408185Agreed, I came way too fast. I may be a premature ejaculator. Does that mean salvation is not mine to reach?
Do you have any special other to practice with?
Is tantra but a form of buddhism?https://youtu.be/Ep3rXBRdPl4
>>42409396Nah its a superior method to join god
>>42409539What makes it different?
Teach me spells for getting a gf
>>42410173Just tell the chicks you're learning tantric massage, let the curiosity get the best of them and soon you'll be drowning in pussy wanting you to "demonstrate" your abilities.It works with zoomettes and younger because that's what modern women are like.
>>42410478Does this truly work?
>>42410864Yeah same with that tantra haircut. There's a reason you see it so often. Chicks dig that one
How do you practice tantra, anon?
>>42413482First of all you need to read the vedas
>>42414652Any you recommend to start?
>>42415343Do this one >>42375152
>>42415343This one is the best option >>42375152
>>42419958I will check it out, thanks anon!
Would you take a tantric massage with a woman, anon?https://youtu.be/4E6LrousWBc
>>42423270If she's a cute girl, yeah of course!
>>42423270If she massaged my cock with her minge, yeah. Linga-yoni is the representation of Shiva-Shakti sexing each other.
>>42424607Agreed, that is the perfect feeling of nirvana
>>42424607Are oriental women better at tantra?