There’s a true self that’s free of all this pointless shit, correct? How do we achieve it?
>>42426964Bleach.
>>42426964>There’s a true self that’s free of all this pointless shit, correct?Ayup>How do we achieve it?No idea, some say mediation other say out-of-body experience or full ego deathWhatever floats your boat i guess, i just highly doubt anyone who done it would come here to tell everyone about it
Kill god.
>>42426990unfortunately, killing the higher dimensional collective consciousness (which many people mistake for god) is impossible since it exists in a higher dimensions where all time (past present and future), matter, and energy overlap simultaneously. Therefore, if it was possible to kill the collective, and someone eventually did it, it would have already happened, and it wouldn’t exist. The fact that it does exist means that it will always exist and will never be successfully murdered. trying to kill god is still the most based position, even though it’s impossible. Rebellion is the closest thing to freedom we can achieve, and there is beauty and courage in a lost cause
>>42427020You can kill god in your mind which is the most important place he lives.
>>42427020you misunderstand the position of the Theomachos, it is not the collective we wish to destroy, but to render this prison we inhabit useless and return us from where we came.god != the creator of our spirit god = the creator of this material plane
>>42427029Unfortunately, not really. You can’t disconnect yourself from the collective, and even if you kill yourself, your life is still an eternal aspect of the collective. I suppose you can minimize its influence as much as possible through individualism and ego, but as an eternal part of the universe, you are eternally part of the collective
>>42427051I am not part of a collective.
>>42427051there are exceptions, the histories prove that
>>42427046>but to render this prison we inhabit uselessuntil the heat death of the universe, there will always be usable energy>return us from where we came.we already are where we came from. Life was born within the universe, and the collective consciousness is the higher dimensional union of all life that ever has or will exist. There is nothing outside of the universe, we did not come from outside the universe. Even the collective is just a higher dimensional perspective on our universe. >god != the creator of our spiritthere is no such thing as a spirit >god = the creator of this material planethe universe was not created, it has always existed and will always exist, otherwise you have the problem of infinite regress. The universe created god, not the other way around. I understand this will be hard for you to accept, but it’s the truth
>>42427065yes, you are.>>42427069nope. it’s just science. you exist, therefore you always existed and always will exist, therefore you always have and always will be part of the collective. Our enemy is ourselves, know your enemy, do not hide within comfortable lies
>>42427075>collectivenah, id win, you demigure dicksuckers always amuse me
>>42427082I understand that makes you feel better, but it’s just a comfortable lie also I’m not a gnostic,
>>42427075I am not, speak for yourself.
>>42427088yea i can tell, mr mudman, came to the wrong place to proselytize your regurgitated bile
>>42427101ignore the hylic, hes only here to feel superior in his faith
>>42427107The self isnt material though, you cant just call yourself a hylic everytime you say something you dont like
>>42427102>proselytizenope, I’m not religious, everything I’ve said is pure science. That’s you projecting onto me >>42427107>faith I don’t have any “faith,” I believe what the facts are, and just like I predicted, you’d rather believe a comfortable lie.
>>42427143>I believeneed i say more>>42427140?
>>42427152>?Dont worry, a part of you already knows what you are talking about even if this part doesnt
>>42427152>need I say moreyeah, you could just admit you’re wrong and then you can stfu, but I highly doubt you’ll do that. having beliefs=/=having religious beliefs
>>42427158collectivism keeps you bound here>>42427160who said anything about religious? im a delusion madman dont ya know
Remove yourself from all the wordly things that define life, and see where that gets you.Even if you're a normie, there's a way to determine that: remove your job, gender, education and place of origin/birth/country. Who or what are you?
sad to see very few who support the supremacy of the human spirit and know what individuals are capable of
>>42427169>collectivism keeps you bound hereNo, existence does that. Collectivism is responsible for it being a masosadistic shithole. The only acceptable path forward is to achieve a proper singularity of all pseudo-identities so we stop hurting ourselves
>>42427189or we could just stop it all
>>42427193If you can, do it. Im not going to say no
>>42427199no other option but to
>>42426964Yes, that void was meant to be filled with God, once you're with Jesus, you can finally be yourself, no more facades, no pride identity nonsense, no materialism slop, all those things that you needed to make you feel comfortable or special lose it's power over you and you begin to shed them like a skin and you begin to really learn who you are.
>>42426990demon or faggot, call it
>>42427143muh evidence, just say you're gay, we all know why you hate God
>>42427188>the human spiritAlso known as Lucifer.
>>42427186Simple, I am it, the awareness, the observer.>>42427188Yeah like how a lot of shit like mental illness is bullshit excluding depression and PTSD, and other people.And to the other folks having the arguement, tell me this: why did god/collective make OCD exist, and anxiety and shitty evolutionary survival crap like all that and coping and other mechanisms? Why? Give me a good 2 sentence explanation
>>42427065>>42427227Yahweh hijacked my life and made me serve his will just like the borg made picard serve its will. Borg ships are cubic, as the heavenly city new Jerusalem
>>42427211I mean I kinda understand I’m a mentally unwell addicted obsessed mess due to trauma and all of this seems retarded.>>42427226Wait does this mean the psychological and pharmaceutical stuff for mental issues are repressing the real solutions?>>42427255They’re all the same god how do we decapitate this hydra fuck
>>42427255>>42427281https://youtu.be/sRc8EyPoxOU?si=uBkiez8HS53uWohw
>>42426987>doubt anyone who done it would come here to tell everyone about itI'm trying ... and if/when I figure it out I'll come back here and post about it to you guys
>>42427249>tell me this: why did god/collective make OCD exist, and anxiety and shitty evolutionary survival crap like all that and coping and other mechanisms? as I said before, the collective did not create the universe, it was born from the universe, from life itself. this notion of a “creator god” is nonsensical, life came from abiogenesis and evolution, and the collective is that life from a higher dimensional perspective. It influences what we think and feel and the choices we make, but it is not all powerful. The only power it has is through life itself
>>42426964The "self" is like a parasite in the mind. It causes all the problems, pain, fear and suffering. To get rid of the self is a true liberation.
>>42427065you are and you aren't at the same time. you are a vessel through which the universal can experience the individual. because God could never come to Know himself if we were all just indistinguishable bits of some homogenous slurry.
>>42428057So ego death
