I am a woman. Real biological one (unfortunately) with vagina. Not troon.I cannot have children. I do not find enjoyment thru caring for kids anyway, much more fond of animals. I want power and money. I don't even want money for stupid shit but mostly for independence and freedom. I cannot become a monk due to my female sex, so the only way I can be completely free from this society is with wealth. I would genuinely use said wealth to do whatever spiritual shit I want on my own in isolation. Since it's not like any true monk equivalent for females exist (I don't count nuns as a true equivalent for several reasons, and nun convents don't appeal to me, nor would they like me - believe me I have considered it).Lilith seems like she may understand my plight as a woman who cannot perform the Expected Motherly Female Role or whatever.Is there any way to obtain power/blessing from her? Rituals of any kind? Should I draw her sigil with my blood or something? I don't care if she kills me because I don't like this place anyway.
>>42432062you are brave to post here
>>42432085I know this is a troll reply (or a low IQ coomer who is too spiritually illiterate to be on /x/) but I have a condition to where I cannot have sex or get pregnant. And part of the monk lifestyle is not having sex anyway btw.I did look it up and apparently I'm mistaken about monks being exclusively male. There are some monasteries where I can be a female monk on equal footing as male monks.
>>42432090I've posted here before (on other topics) and I'm aware it's likely no one on this board will give me any actual advice aside from "um plz be my waifu" or "plz pray 2 gawd to cure you and let you be a tradwaifu". Worth a shot anyway.
Do You mean...a nun? Lol
>>42432108Nuns are not the same. At least Christian nuns certainly are not. I do not like the idea of having to submit to a man arbitrarily (can you see why I like Lilith?). I remember back when I was in Catholic school, I liked the idea of becoming a priest (but of course I couldn't because foid moment). It's dumb to me that I am arbitrarily locked out of certain rites solely due to my sex. I do not hate everything about Christianity, but I do like that other religions, like Buddhism, tell followers to not accept anything based on authority alone, to test it against one's own experience. Being a Christian nun is just okay be le submissive woman of gawd and do what the priests tell you. Males have higher authority over females in terms of priests vs nuns.
>>42432125And for the record, I know even with monkhood, I would have a teacher I ""submit"" to (more like, learn from, not be "dominated by"), but it's still a different dynamic than Christian clergy. And the monasteries which consider female monks to be equal as male monks, able to perform all the same duties, will probably have me be taught under a female teacher anyway.
based, good luck
>>42432099I am willing to put it in your butt. We can work this out baby girl.
>>42432181Not interested, in the slightest. It is not solely a "I am not able to do this because of my biology" thing for me. I also have zero interest in sex. And I have tried before to have sex btw. I believe I have a much higher purpose on this Earth than to ooga-booga-fuck-and-procreate. I am much more interested in gaining esoteric knowledge than I am in mundane Earthly attachments.Btw anal sex is a demonic possession portal. Not interested in educating you because you're an idiotic coomer who probably doesn't believe me anyway on anal sex being demonic. But you can look this up for yourself.
I guess because I did mention it, I'll give you a lead in case you are actually interested in researching why anal sex is bad. Anal sex was a rite for Crowley's O.T.O. and he specifically recruited gay men for it. The elites are "illuminated" because they get ass-fucked as children and have demons put into them. I'm not even kidding.Also parasite pill is probably real and anal spreads parasites even moreso than regular sex does.Why do you think anal was astroturfed so heavily by the (((porn industry)))? Straights used to not do it at all.
You know there are other religions than Christianity, right? I know there's at least one monestary that follows the teachings of thich nhat hanh and is unisex.
>>42432205Nope. Haven't posted on /x/ in several months until right now. And I usually don't mention being a foid in /x/ posts. Never have been married either. Anyone you suspect me of being probably isn't me.
>>42432206I'm aware. I mentioned Buddhism already in this thread. And in an earlier reply, I corrected myself about there being monasteries which allow female monks.I am not an expert theologist, but I have been trying to learn more about world theology. I will look into Thich Nhat Hanh. Thank you for the advice.I was raised Catholic, but I currently do not consider myself a member of any specific religious institution. Though I'm clearly not an atheist. I just haven't found which institution aligns with me yet, so I'm looking and appreciate any and all advice.
>>42432226Not me. And I haven't posted on this board since like January. Sad to hear about that woman's story though. Hope she recovered and is no longer suicidal. There are way more things to life than just sex.For some reason, unmarried men who dedicated their lives to higher purposes are praised. But being a mother and having a husband is treated as the highest purpose a woman can obtain. It is dumb. Especially for women like me who are not capable of said thing, nor would it even be fitting for my personality, even if I could. People who simplify women as solely being worth something for their wombs, are probably also the same people who would have burned Joan of Arc alive at the stake during her time. Fake "tradcath" LARPers.
>>42432222Ah yeah, I didn't see the first part and thought you may have been referring to another religion with the second. Anyway this is the place I think, good luck on your journey https://deerparkmonastery.org/
>>42432249I definitely have a connection to her. And not to be #NotLikeTheOtherGirls, but I have genuinely always been "different". This is my last life on Earth, which is why I have no attachment to this Earth, and why I do not care if Lilith (or my higher self, if you want to call me her) kills me. I would view it as a mercy killing, out of good intent. I do not belong here. I would like to try to find a way to make use of this incarnation though, if I can. That would be fun. Which is why I am interested in becoming a monk.In terms of my birth chart, I have Lilith conjunct Ascendant in Aquarius. I have her on my Ascendant. It explains a lot why I am like this. This is why most of the "tradwaifu advice" 4channers typically give me doesn't apply to me. And I was expecting the replies to solely just be that. Glad there are some quality replies though that aren't just that. I'm not libtarded (pretty apolitical actually), so it is not that I am brainwashed into feeling this "girlboss" way, it is just how I have always been.There's other chart placements that I believe connect me to Lilith, but that is the main one.
>>42432268I'm biologically incapable of it. And my chart also mirrors this. I HATE cultural marxism. I hate third-worlders. I am glad I was not born a third-worlder because I cannot imagine how much worse my life would be with my condition, if I was.But this is the last reply I will give to the groyper retards and coomers, since it is a waste of energy to reply to the spiritually-illiterate. Have fun sperging, but I will only be replying to people who are on topic now. And I have several levels of protection from any type of shenanigans you try to pull.
>>42432267Thank you for the luck. Bookmarked that website. <3Also last comment of mine on cultural marxism: One of the reasons I absolutely despise Marxism is because of how Demiurgic and materialist it is. Opposite philosophy to mine. Marxists hate monasteries, because monks defeat suffering inwardly. Marxists are anti-spiritual.
>>42432297>Zognald slave in /x/>and in 2026lol...I bet you have never read a Bible for yourself (much less any of the original non-English versions) and that you know nothing about Mesopotamia.I like Jesus btw (it may seem hypocritical of me to say this, due to people demonizing Lilith, but real ones will know what I mean). Kingdom of God is within you. Jesus said that.I just do not like the wrathful Jewish God, Yahweh (aka Enlil).The "God" in the Bible refers to multiple deities. "Elohim" is a plural Hebrew word, not a singular name of God. The "God" in the Bible is usually referring to both Enlil and Enki, who are two different Mesopotamian gods, and it is why Biblical God seems so bipolar. Because the translation just merged two gods into one.Were you the same one thirstposting for me or are you a different anon? Not very trad-Christian of you to want to perform sodomy (all anal sex is sodomy, gay or not).I know I said I'd stop replying to the trolls/midwits but holy fuck you're so stupid I had to make fun of you.
>>42432333>>42432333"Lucifer", do you have a Discord? Would like to continue talking to you. You seem like an interesting individual who is open-minded. I will be adding you from a throwaway account that I only use for 4chan. And I recommend you do the same as well, since the zognald slaves will probably try to troll both of us.
>>42432341>I bet you have never read a Bible for yourselfI have been studying it everyday since I got saved over a decade ago.>(much less any of the original non-English versions)No need to. God perfectly preserved his word for an english speaker today in the KJV.>and that you know nothing about Mesopotamia.I know what the bible says about it plus a few extras I researched myself out of curiosity, but I certainly am no expert.>I like Jesus btw (it may seem hypocritical of me to say this, due to people demonizing Lilith, but real ones will know what I mean). Kingdom of God is within you. Jesus said that.There's no kingdom without the King, whom you must receive by believing the Gospel.
>>42432341>I just do not like the wrathful Jewish God, Yahweh (aka Enlil).“And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them? And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.” (Exodus 3:13-15)“Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.” (John 8:57-58)>The "God" in the Bible refers to multiple deities. "Elohim" is a plural Hebrew word, not a singular name of God. The "God" in the Bible is usually referring to both Enlil and Enki, who are two different Mesopotamian gods, and it is why Biblical God seems so bipolar. Because the translation just merged two gods into one.Source: your ass>Were you the same one thirstposting for me or are you a different anon?Different anon.>Not very trad-Christian of you to want to perform sodomy (all anal sex is sodomy, gay or not).Definitely different anon kek.
>>42432377KJV sucks. ESV and RSV are better English translations. I have study bibles of both ESV and RSV. You are too much of a coward to study theology holistically outside of what little of it is deemed acceptable by whatever your local church is. This is precisely why I would not be a good fit for Christian clergy. I do not blindly believe whatever authority tells me. I seek out answers for myself. Jesus was not a fan of "Churchianity". He regularly criticized performative Christians and the religious institutions in general. "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath." (Mark 2:27)^ One of my favorite Bible verses. It emphasizes that strict autistic religious rule-following is not the most important thing. Most fail to realize this.Not an expert myself either, but I am clearly way more knowledgeable and open-minded when it comes to the study of the Bible. It's a shame you aren't, because it is something I love to discuss. But it seems you have already made up your mind on everything.Do you know what the biggest sign of true intelligence is? It is to be aware of what you don't know, to not be afraid to say you don't know things, to have a curious open mind that always learns more. You lack these traits. At least you're not a liberal, and we can agree on hating Marxism, but that's a very low bar.
>>42432380You have to be either trolling or seriously lacking critical thinking skills. Even if you want to dismiss the Mesopotamian parallels, Elohim is literally a plural Hebrew word. That's just...etymology (in case you don't know what that word means, etymology is the study of the origin and evolution of words, a subset of linguistics).
>>42432413I spent years researching the bible version issue and came to the conclusion that I hold now. God is not the author of confusion; He preserved His word exactly as He promised He would, and all the evidence points at the KJV being the right bible, with everything else contradicting it being a stinkin pile of demonic garbage.It's an issue of authority, ultimately, and that was resolved for me many moons ago. No need to waste time jumping from conflicting reading to another like an absolute retard.
>>42432428No problem. Theosophy and Blavatsky are great btw. I don't know too much about Theosophy/Blavatsky, but I really want to learn more. My reading list is a bit packed at the moment, so I'll eventually get around to her books.When you said I am Lilith, what did you mean by that? As in, literally? Or just that I resemble her? That is what intrigued me the most. I don't really like it when people claim to be deities, since so many do, and most people that do know very little about who they claim the name of. If I am connected to her, I imagine I am one of many that are, in this dimension. It would be incredibly egotistical for me to claim that I am the sole Lilith incarnation.But I am gradually awakening to who I really am. I've always had hints of feelings of things, like that this is my last reincarnation. I was much more in tune with it as a child, and am rediscovering it now. And it is undeniable that I do have some sort of connection to Lilith. What do you think about my Lilith-conjunct-Aquarius-Ascendant?Maybe this is too many questions and I should instead be asking Isis/Nephthys like you said. Only answer what you feel comfortable answering. I am doing lots of inner discovery so I am sure I will eventually find the answers to my own questions.
>>42432432Correct, Elohim is plural (Father, Son and Holy Ghost), but you also poisoned the well with the very sandnigger paganism God commanded Abraham to leave behind.Make the necessary distinctions next time.
>>42432450Either way, I care very little for your interpretations. I know that reincarnation is real for one, (but so are heavenly/hell realms, and not everyone reincarnates), and I doubt you even believe in reincarnation. So talking with you is pointless if we both have steadfast beliefs that are unchanging. But it was certainly entertaining to talk to you, nonetheless, you just haven't offered me anything new. Have a good morning/day/night. Sorry we couldn't reach any common ground, outside of our mutual hatred of Marxism. Maybe one day we can meet in another realm and laugh about this. I would hope so. I think it's mostly all a game anyway.
>>42432374>wants to summon jewish vampire demon>wants to chat with discord tranny namefag lucifer who is an antifa third world leftie. Ngmi. I was gonna type an earnest reply but it would probably be wasted on you.
>>42432477Have yourself an excellent rest if the day too. Certainly common ground against marxism is better than anything I have gotten out of this God forsaken shithole in years :)
>>42432484Didn't know he was an antifa third world leftie. Cringe. Originally, I did kinda get schizo vibes from him, since schizos do tend to call themselves "Lucifer" just to be edgy. He did not really offer much to this thread aside from vague statements and pictures, so I was curious to learn why he calls himself Lucifer and what he meant by "You are Lilith". But I wasn't going to blindly take his word as fact. Mostly would just be entertaining. I am happy he at least knows of Theosophy/Blavatsky though. Most "Satanists" are just edgelords who know nothing. I've met many so-called "Satanists" IRL who don't even know what Theosophy is, or what anything spiritual is, outside of pop culture "Satanism"/Christianity.If you don't like me now because of my lighthearted replies to him, that's fine, I'm not here for validation. Would have loved to hear what you had to say. But if it's just reiterations of what the MAGA anon just said, then yeah it would be wasted on me, since I'm looking to discover new things in this thread.My original post was a bit dramatic, but I'm open to all advice, even things not sympathetic to Lilith. I am probably going to just become a Buddhist/Taoist monk of some kind. I was half-joking with the "should I use my blood to summon Lilith?". But I get that my humor doesn't translate well to 4chan autists. Do I need to start using a "/j" or "/s" tone tag like a faggot?
Like in retrospect, I regret making the title/post so bait-y. I should have phrased it as "What should I do as a 'non-tradwaifu' who wants to be a monk?" instead of the Lilith dramatics. But oh well. It got plenty of bumps that way lmao. And the Lilith dramatics got the point across that I don't want to be a Christian monk. And that I'm not the next Virgin Mary to miraculously become pregnant when I can't.
meant to say that I don't want to be a Christian nun* I said "Christian monk" by mistake
>>42432151>>42432496Appreciate the two music recs in this thread. Feel free to send more./x/ should have a music thread honestly.I'm guessing you are Mexican, based on the picture of a Mexican state? Is there anything you want to mention about Mexican or Aztec spirituality? Don't know too much about it.(Before this thread derails into speculating on my race: Not a spic. Am white. "Infertile, foid, white", is all the info you'll get about me though.)
>>42432608Two stelliums, that's pretty cool. I would send my chart back too, but I am paranoid. Only thing relevant to the thread anyway is my Lilith placement that I already mentioned.
>>42432204>The elites are "illuminated" because they get ass-fucked as children and have demons put into them. I'm not even kidding.Indeed. It was (and remains) the bedrock of every elite boarding school in western Europe. An open secret and inside joke for hundreds of years. I hope yiu find what you're looking for.
>>42432624It is just too much of a dox concern for me to attach my birth chart to a thread. That's why I was looking to talk more on another site. Do you have any favorite books about astrology?
>>42432633Yep. Pretty much. People think I'm retarded and making shit up, but it's pretty obvious if you research it. Sacred Band of Thebes. Jake Berber's whistleblowing about gay men psychic military spies. Aleister Crowley. MKUltra. "Alien" anal probing. The deliberate astroturfing of anal sex in pornography.Really funny that my thread asking for advice on a spiritual path was met with a coomer asking "hey do you want me to put demons and parasites in your poophole?". I don't know why coomers even go on this board. Even if I disagree with the "trad-Christians" on this board, they're way more respectable than the coomers who fail to realize how many demons they're attaching to themselves. I guess "sex magic" is technically /x/-related, but anal sex magic seems more fitting for /lgbt/.
>>42432654I still want to know what you mean by "You are Lilith".
>>42432662Are these tarot cards ones you are pulling from a real-life deck? Or just ones you feel fit the vibe of the thread? Queen of Wands would be an on-brand tarot card pull for a thread about Lilith.
>>42432663I’m going to guess that he meant all entities are personifications of your own energies. Lilith is the name of the personification of the untamed feminine energy within you. Feminine meaning acted upon, untamed meaning refusing to be brought upon control. This current of energy may be more prominent in someone like yourself, who has Lilith conjunct the Ascendant. Ultimately though, we all have these primal energies however we express them differently. The same applies to Lucifer, who is the personification of the “light bringer” or the “illuminator.” The aspect of ourselves that makes the unconscious conscious.This reply may be partly incorrect, and partly correct. Take it how it resonates, and let me know what you don’t agree with.
>>42432759Yeah that makes sense. I don't think I'm literally Lilith, and it makes more sense for Lilith to be more of a personification.
>>42432062I think Buddhism would be a good foundation to stand on for a clear and stable mind and establish a meditation practice, which would be good if you want to venture onto other paths later. https://youtu.be/BTZNpfUyl2oYou can also look into Jason Miller's course on Hecate, the goddess of witchcraft. https://youtu.be/7jSPf-1ikns
>>42432787Thank you, I will watch those videos.Eastern spirituality appeals much more to me than Western spirituality. Western spirituality makes me feel like I am "worthless" for not fitting the mold of "submissive tradwife mother". (I don't think Western spirituality was always that way, but it is now.)
>>42432804>Western spirituality makes me feel like I am "worthless" for not fitting the mold of "submissive tradwife mother".Men and women suffer alike in the modern world, men just tend to be more aggressive in their reaction to it and that anger also become aimed towards the "modern woman" as a perpetrator rather than fellow victim.Anyhow, I think you'll enjoy this one too. They have a few more documentaries about the harsh life of Buddhist monks and nuns in Tibet worth watching. https://youtu.be/bjsHlj5YtsQ
>>42432062>Lilith seems like she may understand my plight as a woman who cannot perform the Expected Motherly Female Role or whateverLilith didn't want fun time with Adam, Adam was a bad lover, so she boned an angel or two and bore children didn't she?Why Christianity specifically when the magi prove that Christ isn't the only way?Lilith is old testament, while the Bible is viewed through the eyes of Christ, he wasn't a component and serves as a seal against magik.Early Christianity is littered with divine fools who's only folly was not believing christ the redeemer
>>42432910>"Men and women suffer alike in the modern world, men just tend to be more aggressive in their reaction to it and that anger also become aimed towards the "modern woman" as a perpetrator rather than fellow victim."Very true. Men are also held to unhealthy standards. A friend of mine once pointed out to me, that if women's only value is birthing, then that implies men's only value is providing (financially). The same men on this website who hate me for being infertile, are also the same men who complain about only being seen as walking wallets, and they do not realize how we are both victims of this mindset."Trad" LARP mindset views infertile women and disabled men as essentially subhuman and worthless. I love how I'm always assumed to be this turbo-liberal dyed-hair feminist, on this website, whenever I talk about my life, but I'm not, and I'm not even making any commentary on women who want to be "tradwives". I am talking about me AND ME ALONE. But 4channers love to project angrily onto me. I try to stay out of politics, but I actually, surprisingly, lean more "right" than "left". I think families SHOULD be able to raise kids off of one income, and yeah, it is a shame that a lot of them cannot. I think the family institution should be protected, and I hate "sex-positive" whoredom bullshit (which I also view Tate manosphere shit as anti-family male whoredom).But I also think it's historically inaccurate to act like women did NOTHING except pop out babies. Women have always had "jobs" (as in, helped out on farms and whatnot). I don't know how these trad-LARPers claim to be Christians or spiritual at all. If they truly were, then they would realize that it is CLEAR God had a different plan for me. I am not able to be a "submissive tradwaifu mother". Also, it isn't and has never been a sin to be unmarried or to not procreate. I know biblically, there is a verse about "be fruitful and multiply", but I don't think the implication is that it is mandatory.
Like I think they are projecting their own love life struggles onto me just because I am also a woman. But just because I am also a woman does not mean I am their perfect dream waifu. I believe in shit like semen retention and am anti-masturbation. Highly doubt any of the coomers idealizing me as their perfect waifu they can change are into either of these concepts. I believe you can ascend spiritually thru avoiding lust. And I view my sexual predicament as a gift in that I find it way easier, than the average person, to be able to avoid said lustful temptation.I know a lot of people view sex as sacred and like an important spiritual magical practice. Cool for them. I find the celibate monk lifestyle more appealing personally. No idea how that's a sin either. Or why it makes them so mad, other than they think that me being off their dating market actually realistically affects them, when it doesn't, because I was never on it in the first place.
(I say semen retention because that's the term /x/ uses, and /x/ is mostly male, but I believe semen retention benefits apply to women too, just replace "semen" with "cum", that there's benefits for women avoiding cooming as well)
>>42432926Don't know why I made the original post about Lilith. I said in an earlier reply that I should've just had it be a question of what I should do spiritually since I want to be a monk but not all monasteries accept women. And I have no interest in being a nun (for reasons stated earlier, I do not like the idea that I am capped at a certain level of authority and religious rites, just because I am female, when I think I have just as much to offer).I like Christ. And I agree with you that Christ isn't the only way. I think Christ and Buddha both achieved Christ Consciousness. The "trad-Christians" on this board who think Christ is the only way and that all other spirituality is "evil" are idiots. And probably think donating to their megachurch pastors gives them a guaranteed ticket in Heaven (it doesn't). They believe corrupt church propaganda fearmongering, something Jesus himself wasn't a fan of.Anyone who looks at Buddhism and views it as "evil" is legitimately clinically retarded.
Basically, I was under the impression that there was no female spiritual position that existed that wasn't below men's. Lilith is known for being cast out due to "not submitting to Adam". So I, half-jokingly, was like, "hi /x/ can I summon her and have her help me get more money so I can become a monk on my own terms?". Then I realized quickly after more research that female monks, who are not treated as lesser than male ones, do exist. So now the thread isn't so much about Lilith as it is about me trying to explore a spiritual path. I was under the impression I HAD to summon Lilith or something. But now that I know female monks do exist, idrc anymore about the Lilith summoning thing. I just thought that monasteries who accepted female monks didn't exist and that I had to make my own monastery (which required money).
>>42432954>They believe corrupt church propaganda fearmongering, something Jesus himself wasn't a fan of.I liked when jesus went into the temple and said it was a den of thiefs and starts flipping tables.>Anyone who looks at Buddhism and views it as "evil" is legitimately clinically retarded.Idk, some of their beliefs and practices are pretty far out there, the greater good always encompasses a smaller evil. Religion are but muses to the grand architect, and even Christianity comes with some denial of God's beauty to hide the ugly.The way of the hermit sounds like the path you're looking for, just remember that fools tread where wisemen dare not go, and christ the redeemer will be their for you... less you do some cardinal sin or transgress the laws of man, the world loves a fool but no one likes to be the butt of the joke so don't make an arse of yourself.What calling do you hear, or are you still trying to listen?
>>42432999>"Idk, some of their beliefs and practices are pretty far out there"Maybe to you. But it resonates with me. There's a celibacy thread active in this board rn (not by me but by someone else) and someone said you shouldn't work against your natural urges. True. But that also means I shouldn't brainwash myself into becoming a cocksucking anal whore just because retards on 4chan are offended that one woman isn't sexually available (I know because my vagina doesn't work, anal/oral/kink will be suggested as alternatives, like it was within the first few replies of this thread). But I'm also not a very sexual person....just in general. Probably a part of my biology. I am not on SSRIs or any medications. So if "don't force yourself to hate sex if you like sex" is a common opinion, then I don't know why the inverse of "don't force yourself to like sex if it's not for you" isn't also a common opinion.My 4chan experience whenever I mention I'm a "foid":>be me>vagina biologically incapable of penetration or birth, i was born this way>"ur brainwashed by liberal propaganda to not want kids" (because i chose this i guess)>not interested in sex, more fond of higher purposes>"u can do other forms of sex, please force yourself to like sex for me please">"but also whores are bad">"but also not submitting to your husband and not trying to be a slut taking it up your poophole is bad too">"women's sexuality is a sin">"women's lack of sexuality is a sin too">"just be a nun">"ok why are you a nun that questions the man (priest) youre supposed to be submitting to? stfu idc how much youve read about theology foid">"r u offended foid? it IS true that u should be a submissive tradwife, and your vagina IS your worth, but also dont expect me to be a tradhusband and dont tell me my wallet is my worth"Holy niggerbrained. (Not saying you specifically are saying this but this is the type of replies I am used to)
>>42432062Well, if you aren't lying, I respect you."Blessed is the womb which has notconceived and the breasts which have not given milk." (Gospel of Thomas)Most women are breed-monsters obsessed with everything procreation and/or sluts with a huge bodycount. Extremely hard to find one that isn't interested in carnal stuff.Also, any religion/cult that demands followers to copulate & procreate is inherently demiurgic. Most are just poorly disguised ancestor worship cults and tools of societal control.
>>42433025>vagina biologically incapable of penetration or birth, i was born this wayBtw, iirc Helena Blavatskaya had a similar condition. Allegedly stayed virgin her whole life. And did a lot of groundwork for the revival and spreading of interest in the occult. Albeit a lot of her views were later corrupted/dumbed down by some of her followers.>>42432503>I am probably going to just become a Buddhist/Taoist monk of some kind.Don't have to go all the way, but researching these topics can definitely help.
>>42432062lilith isn't summonable. you learn from lilith.
>>42433026Not lying. Thank you. Based. Love the Gospel of Thomas quote especially.It is incredibly Demiurgic to consider sex a virtue, it's a complete inversion. It used to be that chastity was a virtue. What separates humans from animals is that we don't just all rape each other. That we can create art, that we can care for one another. We're not just primates who only think about our next meal or our next fuck. Or at least, "spiritual" people shouldn't be such primates.(The rest of this reply is not about you but about other anons:)I don't understand the double standard that men who transcend their carnal sexual desires are holy and awesome, but women are apparently not allowed to do the same. Nor the double standard of hating women for only seeing men's wallets, by men who only see women for their vaginas. Such fake spirituality LARP. Maybe it's "trad" in a way. But "trad", as in, barbarians, or as in, gorillas. Barbarians also disliked philosophy. Such disgraceful so-called "religious people" who worship the material, who worship the coom. The """spirirual""" anon who wanted to stick his dick up my poophole should be ashamed to even be on this board honestly. And I bet he calls himself a Christian and thinks anal is no longer a sin just as long as he does it to a woman.
>>42432062You can be free without wealth. The biggest superstition known to man is that you need money to do said thing. Stop being ignorant of your own power to manifest any life you want!
>>42432062>(unfortunately)Weird.>I cannot become a monk due to my female sexNuns exist.>I want power and money.I get the sense that you, like many, don't understand what the fuck Lilith does. She's a night-demon who seduces men and women and kills children. You might want to search elsewhere for the independence you want.
>>42433025>my vagina doesn't work, analWith no prostate doesn't your clitterati work? Your not a eunuch by any chance, you can't be nothing more than a receptacle, a vessel for a love you are denied, what of the story's of multiple orgasms, or are you only able to have them in the mind.
>>42433056what is this, baby's first foray into spirituality? all spirituality goes back to the hieros games on different levels. the cross, the seal of solomon and countless other symbols of the most varied traditions enshrine this as the central concept. from the most reduced pygmies of the congo or the highland-dwellers of papua to the highest and most complex expressions vajrayana and hermeticism this has always been known.the enfleshed act of sex is still an echo of the cosmogonic principal act that is the foundation of everything.you have a medical condition and i won't mock you for that, but you must realize that your hang-up originates from a feeling of inadequacy. you can not see straight.people here really don't ever seem to start with first principles or actually read about coherent traditions (or compare these traditions to one another). it's always the most syncretic, edgy and incoherent mess that you lot are drawn to. if you actually want to understand these things you gotta leave your hang-ups at the door because they'll always place you inbetween some contrived dualism
>>42433076*of vajrayana [...]
>>42433056Really though: where does one find women such as yourself?I've been trying to manifest meeting a partner to have a platonic relationship with, supporting each other in this cursed reality and waiting together for liberation. Hasn't worked so far. Nor did tulpamancy (im not schizo enough for that I guess).Where do women like you appear in social circumstances? What establishments or venues do you visit? What do you find attractive/interesting in a man enough so that would make you consider becoming partners (not in a sexual/procreational sense) with said man?Most things are about "sex this children that" among hylics, so finding a partner for a platonic, mutually supportive relationship feels almost impossible. Everyone just revels in the material.Also please don't misconstrue this as some kind of "thirstposting". I'm obviously not coming onto you personally - we live on different continents, chances are. It's just that - there HAS to be more women like you out there. So I really wonder how I could go about/increase my chances of meeting one. So far I've tried various "goth" or "new-agey" venues - but most of the women visiting those seem to be highly promiscuous and ironically also judgmental of men who don't conform to the "ooga-booga big grog cavemaster" male role pattern.In any case, I wish you all the luck in your endeavors.
>>42433043>"iirc Helena Blavatskaya had a similar condition. Allegedly stayed virgin her whole life."Didn't know that about Helena. Badass. I already wanted to read her work but now I want to read her work even more after knowing we have something in common.>"Don't have to go all the way, but researching these topics can definitely help"I just yearn for a community that understands. I hate how incredibly Demiurgic, material, hypersexual, modern society is. I want to escape it. I am very sensitive to vibrations and absorb a lot of energy around me. It would be great to not be hounded constantly over my body. Being a female monk in a monastery genuinely sounds awesome. Like I genuinely want to be away from filthy modern society. Would prefer not to be a complete isolated hermit, if possible, like being around other monks would be cool.>>42433057"You can be free without wealth"True. I was under the impression that female monks didn't exist. And it seems harder to live the monk lifestyle on my own with no money. Whereas a monastery would have all the monks helping each other out. But now that I know female monks do exist, I don't care about having money. I was thinking female monks didn't exist and that I'd have to buy land of my own and plant my own food.>>42433058>"Weird"I'm on a website where I get hate just for being a "foid". And even more hate for being a foid that can't reproduce. Yeah I said unfortunately. And I was under the impression female monks didn't exist (something I think I'd enjoy) so I felt like it was a curse for me to both not be "a tradwife mother" but also not be able to make advantage of my predicament to join a path where no one gives a fuck if you can't have sex/children. Because monks are supposed to be celibate. Not implying being a female is bad in of itself.>"Nuns exist."I prefer monasteries and the monk path>"I want power and money"lmao it was a stupid premise for the original post I admit.(Ran out of reply characters)
>>42433094>I just yearn for a community that understands. I hate how incredibly Demiurgic, material, hypersexual, modern society is. I want to escape it. I am very sensitive to vibrations and absorb a lot of energy around me. It would be great to not be hounded constantly over my body. Being a female monk in a monastery genuinely sounds awesome. Like I genuinely want to be away from filthy modern society. Would prefer not to be a complete isolated hermit, if possible, like being around other monks would be cool.Ngl, seeing that women with such views actually exist after all has lifted my spirits a lot. Extremely based and thank you.
>>42432274Skip the Lilith nonsense, what's your ethnic background?
>>42433060heh i don't think thats the solution they are looking for.i like the concept of being utterly alone and still now bowing makes her harder than even lucifer
>>42433115Are you retarded? There are millions of those doing the trad larp, this is just a modification of that. Women can not help their nature. It is what it is. But even she would absolutely leave you or cheat on you if the right man sweet-talked her at the right time.If you want this ideal of a spiritual woman worship a goddess and dedicate yourself to that. Some would call that pie-in-the-sky, but I genuinely think that's better than being deluded. Women are far too close to their own nature because they are nature, they're a hypostasis of nature. I'm not even attacking the girl, I'm sure she believes that she thinks all that. But women are necessarily oblivious to their own nature. You can never take anything serious they say, and you must always treat it as a phenomenon of that deeper nature. And none of you better accuse me of misogyny or try and push some strawman into what I said; I love women but I know what they are. There's nothing to be done.
>>42433094Let's cut to the chase. Are you 25-100% Jewish? If yes, find Lilith I guess. If no, what's your ethnic bg?
(Hit character max limit on last reply, continuing here)>>42433058>"She's a night-demon who seduces men and women and kills children"The thing is, I don't know if I believe that she is solely evil. You sound like someone who isn't a fan of Gnosticism, but some people interpret Lilith, in a Gnostic context, to be the first to turn on the Demiurge, and that she didn't sacrifice/kill children out of the sake of being evil to be evil, but because she understood her children would rather prefer death than life in a cage.(Also this is just my own personal theory: I think Lilith inspires pedo-troons to chop their dicks off, because she's offended by them taking her name, as most do, and as someone who defied the Demiurge's command for her to be submissive, I doubt she would be a fan of troon ideology, which boils down femalehood to a caricature of a dumb-submissive-bimbo-slut, which is what all MTFs want to become.)>>42433076>"what is this, baby's first foray into spirituality?"I admit I have only seriously begun delving deeply into spirituality (all forms of it, at least not the Demiurgic forms) this year. I am not claiming to be an expert. And I've said in this thread that I'm open to any new info.>"the enfleshed act of sex is still an echo of the cosmogonic principal act that is the foundation of everything."This isn't a "STOP HAVING SEX" thread. This is me talking about my own personal life experiences. I said in an earlier reply, that I know some people view sex as an integral sacred part of their spiritual beliefs, which is cool, for them. I don't. I view it as materialistic, and I view unrestrained sexuality as the root of a lot of evil in this world. I do not think it is mere coincidence that priests and monks are supposed to be celibate. I believe their celibacy has spiritual purpose. If you don't want to be celibate, cool, I don't really care. But why does everyone get so offended by another person choosing celibacy?(Ran out of characters again)
>>42433140Yeah, I generally agree with what you're saying and have always been of the same opinion.But seeing this specimen here was somehow heartwarming still, idk. Maybe you're right and this too is but an illusion ofc. It is what it is indeed. Demiurge is playing on my heartstrings yet again.
>>42433093>"where does one find women such as yourself?"I have only ever met one other woman who is similar to me. And she is an online friend. And neither of us leave our houses very much. I wish I could tell you where you could find more of us, but I really don't know.>"I've been trying to manifest meeting a partner to have a platonic relationship with"I'm not interested in marriage or living together. But we can be Internet friends, if you want. >"tulpamancy"I am scared of tulpamancy. I view it as inducing DID in yourself. And I know DID is used as a control tool in MKUltra. Don't think I really want to install that backdoor in my brain, nor should you. I know it allegedly originates as a Buddhist practice, and I'm sure it can be used for good, but I just am wary of installing that brain backdoor when I know the government loves abusing DID people. >"What do you find attractive in a man enough so that would make you consider becoming partners (not in a sexual/procreational sense)?"I don't really want a partner, even if nonsexual. I don't want to form any type of attachment of that sort because I think I have a higher chance of this being my last reincarnation (which I feel like it is, and I want to keep it that way) if I do not. I also do not like sleeping in beds with other people. And I very much enjoy my own space.>"Most things are about "sex this children that" among hylics"Correct. It is very annoying. It is why I do not like normies or go outside that much. It is incredibly draining to constantly explain myself. I am often called a "prude" and other names. Hardly anyone makes the slightest attempt to understand me or my beliefs.>"don't misconstrue this as some kind of "thirstposting""Don't worry, I don't think that it is.>"there HAS to be more women like you out there"There definitely are.>"So I really wonder how I could go about/increase my chances of meeting one"No clue. Female monks?(Hit character max limit again)
This is an /adv/ bloggo thread. Where's the paranormal?
(Hit character max in last reply so continuing here)My Discord is @MonadAeon. If anyone wants to add me. Sexual messages will be blocked. 20-questions-games of "oh so you can't do [insert sex act]? have you tried [insert fetish]?" will also be blocked. (I am not expecting you, the anons I'm replying to, to send me any of these sexual messages, but I am just saying for the entire thread, in case anyone else adds me.)>>42433093>"I've tried various "goth" or "new-agey" venues - but most of the women visiting those seem to be highly promiscuous and ironically also judgmental of men who don't conform to the "ooga-booga big grog cavemaster" male role pattern"I used to go to places like these. But I stopped, for the same reason you mentioned. It's even worse because of the fact TikTok has made "goth"/"alt"/"new age" a trend now. So now hylic normies just wear it as a costume. They buy clothes and crystals from Hot Topic, without knowing anything about the subculture or spirituality. And they will ditch it all when the next consumerist aesthetic trend becomes more popular on TikTok. I honestly cannot stand anyone who uses TikTok, in general.>>42433115>"Ngl, seeing that women with such views actually exist after all has lifted my spirits a lot. Extremely based and thank you."Thank you. It lifts my spirits to see positive replies to this thread that aren't just arguing with me. Feel free to add my Discord if you want to be friends. I would not mind being friends with you and the other anon I'm replying to in this post.
>>42433132>makes her harder than even luciferI spoke of Christianities denial of God's beauty, the choir isn't complete since the fall.Wiseman fear to tread because they know that it is the devil seeking reconciliation.So I was trying to understand their albedo and the dance they are preforming.
>>42433149mortification of the flesh with no real change of nature is just will turned against itself. you can contemplate all you like, that won't conquer any real states.asceticism is not a bad thing but it needs to have a purpose, else you're just enamoured with the aesthetics. and as a woman i simply don't believe you have that essence you need for that.it's a very unfortunate situation you find yourself in and you have my sympathy, but i don't believe in helping people along in their delusions, i think that's harmful. what is materialistic? what is matter? what does that mean?i'm also obviously arguing in a much broader sense than just fucking. but that which echoes in fucking is the source of everything and if you have this disgust and emotional charge towards sex it'll always hinder you in actually achieving anything because that's a hang-up, that's something you cling to. it's reactive.what drives you into asceticism is nothing essential or natural, it's a reaction to your misfortune and you let yourself be wholly defined by it. are we talking about vaginismus? i've known several women with that condition, one with a very severe version. that can actually be helped.
>>42433124>"Skip the Lilith nonsense, what's your ethnic background?"White. Not getting more specific and doxing myself. White, foid, infertile is the extent of the info you are getting.>>42433147"Let's cut to the chase. Are you 25-100% Jewish? If yes, find Lilith I guess. If no, what's your ethnic bg?"Not Jewish. Took a DNA test recently actually. I criticized the Jewish (((porn industry))) early in this thread.>>42433140>"There are millions of those doing the trad larp"I criticized trad larp multiple times in this thread. How does being a Buddhist monk, being celibate my whole life, equate to "trad"? I thought "trad female" LARP was about being Christian and being a mother. Never been very sexual and had a lifelong condition since I was born. Not trying to fit into any trends.>"Women can not help their nature." "women are necessarily oblivious to their own nature."I don't masturbate. I don't have sex. I have a medical condition.Yes, I'm sure, a lot of whores larp as innocent virgins, but are secretly sucking off every guy they see, but that is not me. And you don't have to believe me. I don't really care.
Also for transparency: I don't want to detail my whole life. I am Schrodinger's Virgin. I have tried to have sex a singular time. Something I did not really want anyway (though it was not rape or anything), because every hylic normie hypes it up as the best thing ever. And that is where I learned of the extent of my condition (which I already knew a little about but not entirely). Never really desired to have "sex" again (if you can even call it "sex"). And I don't masturbate. Believe me or don't. Feel free to theorize that I have a secret Onlyfans. I made this post because I want to be away from oversexualized society, not convince you of how holy I am.
>>42433219It is relevant to what I will say next.
>>42433176>And neither of us leave our houses very much.That's what I assumed. Makes sense, yes.>>42433219I agree with that one anon btw: Why necessarily Lilith? Especially if you're not Jewish.Hestia/Vesta would suit you better imo, you basically already embody her ideals.>The gods Poseidon and Apollo (her brother and nephew respectively) both fell in love with Hestia and vied for her hand in marriage. But Hestia would have neither of them, and went to Zeus instead, and swore a great oath, that she would remain a virgin for all time and never marry. In the Homeric Hymn to Aphrodite, Aphrodite (goddess of sex and love) has "no power" over Hestia.
>>42432197maybe you've just never had good sex before. Sex is a beautiful part of life.
>>42433215>"i don't believe in helping people along in their delusions."Never once in this thread did I say that my path is the path I think everyone should go down. I said numerous times I know some people consider sex as very sacred and spiritual, which is cool, for them, and I respect that. I just do not believe I, myself, need to have sex. I do not think sex as a whole is evil, but I did say that I think unrestrained sexuality (whoredom, both female whoredom and male whoredom) is the root of a lot of evil. You don't have to agree with me on that, but I think it's true. Just look at how much abuse and harm happens as the result of unrestrained cooming: Epstein Island is a great example.>"if you have this disgust and emotional charge towards sex it'll always hinder you in actually achieving anything because that's a hang-up, that's something you cling to."Why do I have to force myself to get into sex if I am happy without it? Why do I have to resort to degenerate literal demonic portals, such as anal sex, as an alternative? (I explain earlier in the thread why anal is a demonic portal, and why it is still sodomy, even if straight.)>"are we talking about vaginismus? i've known several women with that condition, one with a very severe version. that can actually be helped."I know what vaginismus is. That's not what's wrong with me. My body is literally malformed btw. Vaginismus, as far as I know, is when your vagina tenses up and you can get accustomed to easing the tension? That's not my problem. I mean my vagina is literally fucked up....lol. It's not something that can be "cured". It's not just sex either, I'm infertile too. Vaginismus isn't infertility or vagina deformity, I don't think.Why are hylics all SO EXTREMELY OFFENDED that ONE person out of the 8 billion doesn't have sex? I am not necessary for reproduction. I am not capable of it anyway. The human race is not dying out because of me. And even if it did, that's not really my fault.
>>42433247>Aphrodite (goddess of sex and love) has "no power" over Hestia.I still believe in a fool of eros being able to reach her, or is that nothing but a fools errand.
>>42433248My vagina is underdeveloped. Pregnancy is impossible. I cannot be penetrated because my vagina is extremely shallow, unable to fit any penis or any object. Everyone in this thread is making assumptions about me that I'm just retarded and need to try harder to have sex. No I'm literally telling you that I have a physical deformity. And I've already said earlier in this thread why I believe anal sex is a demonic portal. I have never tried anal sex nor do I plan on it.
>>42433253i think we're talking past each other, i'm not saying any of that.what i am saying is this: i think in all your spiritual pursuits the image you have of sex will hinder you because you cling to it in a negative way, either because of your condition or let's say because a certain type of personality necessarily coincides with such a condition, who knows.in any case i'm telling you i think it'd be better if you could create a less negative image of the act in yourself. being hung up on dualities doesn't serve you in my experience.i'm not prescribing anything here, and i don't see myself using any imperatives of the sort in my previous posts.and yeah, i see. in that case it's fucked. vaginismus can be cured through easing and stretching. i'm sorry that's the case, but then you've also come to terms with and consigned yourself to it so it is what it is.
>>42433247>"I agree with that one anon btw: Why necessarily Lilith? Especially if you're not Jewish.Hestia/Vesta would suit you better imo, you basically already embody her ideals."I don't know. I kind of just said a random deity that I knew was associated with "being a woman who doesn't submit". Because I want to be spiritual, but most religious institutions, even if subtly, have this idea that women are to submit to men, which is why I don't want to be a nun. I don't want to "submit" to a priest. I want to be able to continue to advance spiritually, and not be arbitrarily locked out of doing certain things, just because of my sex or the idea that "women are to serve men". So that's why right now, becoming a female monk is probably what I'll do, or at the very least, embody a lot of monk principles in my personal life, even if not officially becoming one (but I'm really considering official monk life). There are probably better deities. I'm pretty sure Artemis was a virgin too, if I'm correct? I'll look more into Hestia and Greek gods as a whole.
>>42433262The clitterati doesn't require penetration, you do cling to it in the most negative of ways.A baby is a means to an end but it isn't the only way to an end or an ultimate end.Do you swear off massages, reject physical comft, and part take in flagellation as the ultimate twist?If you are to brood, then you best have something to brood over.
>>42432099>I have a condition to where I cannot have sex or get pregnantyes, its called being a trannyherbs everywhere
>>42433301born female XX.not intersex. not trans.MRKH syndrome.if i was a troon then i wouldnt be hating on anal sex this much.
and im not "FTM" either.
>>42433295still no real interest in sex.this is not a "give me some fun alternatives so i can have sex like i really wanna have sex guys please tell me how" thread.
>>42433349I'm sorry, but I'll put it in plain and frightfully blant Anglish, your just a bit of a wanker.Do onto others as you would do onto yourself becomes moot when their is no "others", this aligns with your wishes not to receive or be acted upon.So if you're purposely choicing to act only upon yourself... that makes you a wanker since your playing with yourself.
>>42433383bro im literally putting it in as plain english as possible. look up MRKH syndrome. idk how much simpler i can dumb it down for you idiots.
>>42433383oh i misread, thought you told me to put it in plain english. okay cool. lolit's "you're" by the way. loving all the low IQ simpletons in this thread who make up for their low intelligence by convincing themselves they contributed something to the world just by having sex.
and no, having a dysgenic low IQ child does not count as contributing to the world. we would be better off with eugenics. it is a fact that low IQ people reproduce the most because they literally dont think about anything before sticking their dick in anything. have fun paying child support to Laquisha and Shaniqua, Tyrone.
>>42433401It's still stop you being a wanker, anyone can be a wanker, you don't even need a John Thomas to be one.I'm talking about this whole charade, am wounded by inability to give and receive gratification of the kind I desire.Maybe I am the wanker harping on about my desires, but surely a covenant can be made, one with concessions.
>>42433439>It's still stop you being a wankerIt still doesn't stop you being a wanker*
>>42433439I really just don't understand why you all are so deadset on convincing me to have sex. Like legitimately I do not know why it brings you such discomfort to know one other person out there is celibate. I don't think I've mentioned, but I probably should: I also don't have periods. So I do not get "period horny". Like it's genuinely not something I desire at all. It's not an urge for me. I know that's hard to picture for someone with a normal body. But you can look up my condition if you really do not believe what I'm saying about my own body. And I've said many times in this thread: I DO NOT CARE IF YOU HAVE SEX. I UNDERSTAND SOME PEOPLE FIND IT DEEPLY SPIRITUAL. I am just not one of those people. Would you go up to a random Buddhist monk and go on this same ramble toward them? Are you that annoying?
>>42432062You're the first person I've met with sterility/infertility. If you want to deal with the dark feminine, summon Lilith at your own risk. If you cannot find any place with female monks, you'll have to go the hermit path.
>>42433469>I do not know why it brings you such discomfort to know one other person out there is celibate.Quaint, an invitation to sing you a song.I don't know what makes you think your so special to believe that it has anything to do with your ego.You are the key to a lock many wish to be free from, and while you think the consecration between two parties is a bind, its also a seal of which duties are agreed, I am seeing your ability to fulfil those obligations and want need you have of me.You have no need of me other than for communion, I grow weary of communion as I am haunted by thoughts of satisfaction & pleasure that you do not share or hold equivalent to bargin with.Now i am one with you, broken as you are whole.
>>42432062Obtain esoteric knowledge for wat purpose tho? Just obtaining knowledge is a midwit goal for people who think they’re epic wizards, but really they are imbalanced and that’s no path to knowledge at all. Maybe work on getting out of your head and realize that you are a physical being as well as a spiritual one. Best of luck!
>>42433539The bitch is obviously not interested in actual advice, read the thread. All actionable advice she doesn't even engage with, she only reacts to the sycophants and those that attack her.She's an attention seeker, like all women.
>>42433587It never hurts to try and help a stranger <3
>>42433587>she only reacts to the sycophantsSuch is the dance of the fool, but we see her as no fool.
>>42433539Monks are midwits? You seem like the type of person who also believes "philosophy is pointless".
>>42433731A jezebellon if i ever saw one
>"You're doing a fake trad larp by wanting to be single and celibate.">"You're a brainwashed Marxist liberal."Which is it?
>>42433731Philosophy isn’t pointless, but living an imbalanced life isn’t going to lead you to where you want to be (presumably). Philosophy is probably not good for someone who is always in their head and actually can make things worse and turn them into even more of a schizo. Same reason how neglecting the mind or spirit to a more physical reactor will cause all kinds of maladies. Just understand that deficiencies are often callings more than things to be avoided, and it seems like you have a large aspect of yourself which is wounded, neglected and underdeveloped and other aspects of you which are overtuned.
Bitch will you just stop clinging holy shit
>>42432062>ith seems like she may understand my plight as a woman who cannot perform the Expected Motherly Female Role or whateIf you're looking for validation as a female spirit and you're too high IQ to become a witch, I recommend you study Sophia in Gnosticism. You don't need a blessing from another, you have that spark inside you, you are connected to it always, no one can take it away, the most they can do is make you believe you don't have it and convince you never to look for it.
I'm gonna admit, I stopped reading the thread.But anyways, Buddhism is a good foundation to start with. Particularly Bhante Vimalaramsi's TWIM will do more for you in controlling your spriitual/astral self than anything else without it being explicitly about that. I think most of Buddhism is fake and gay with men egoing how much of their life they can waste forming creases in their foreheads, but his practice gets to the point of the Buddha's original teachings that brought a nation of simple farmers to enlightenment in a very short period.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egFZO2e799wFrom there your fields kind of open up... I don't think Lilith is the right path for you if you truly don't enjoy sex or the like. In my experience, you will be subjected to sexual acts in the astral whether you think that you want it or not in exchange for guidance. I would say as a simultaneous step with TWIM, you should watch Michael Raduga's video course on the phase (which is just astral projection but he's autistic about it supposedly not existing)>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQjAIlFZWWcIf you really want to go a god/goddess angle, look into Sophia as she was said to be incarnated in Mary Magdalene by gnostics. I think they're all retarded, but you might find something useful there.For Bible studies, Michael Heiser will reveal a lot to you. So many people approach these topics from the standpoint of hating Jesus and wanting to find something different or some way to claim that he never existed or that he was actually the bad guy. It's very insidious and widespread in theosophy and their adjacent teachers. Take the time to learn from an actual bible scholar before taking new age at face value.
“¶ Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.” (Exodus 22:18)
>>42432062Lilith does not exist, nor even as an energy or whateverdont waste your time
>>42433339You literally have a penis pocket and you say you can't have sex? MRKH is a spectrum, but I understand you still have an opening. I can "have sex" with my wife's tits, pussy lips, mouth, hand, etc. Basically I can rub it out with anything in/on that woman's body. If you have a clitoris, then it's basically just like being a lesbian and scissoring or whatever. I don't buy it.
>>42434392>I don't buy itMe neither, too egocentric
>>42432085*insert bobs and vagene joke*fpbp
>>42434454I care little for the words of an elitist misanthrope.
>>42434555You dont half listern to twaddle n all, you misanthrope elitists.https://youtu.be/yAv5pLO37mE?si=HDrjXd5HSjbcP67n
>>42432062>I want power and money>Looked into being a monk/nunLady, you dumb
>>42432062You seem to think that being devoid of sexual energy somehow makes you Spiritual and Holy, when in reality it's the exact opposite.Sexual Energy is Life Energy is God Energy. And there's a BIG difference between someone who increased their capacity for Life Energy and has complete control over it and someone who's energy is stifled and their capacity for feeling is diminished if not nonexistent.The former is respectable. The latter is pitiful.You come off as someone who is carrying alot of trauma in their energy system. Probably alot of guilt, shame and, fear in your body from your dogmatic upbringing. My advice? Remove those energy blockages in your fascia.Fascia is the seat of your energy system. Remove those blockages and you'll see an increase in your energy capacity.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3m05kPEPNUhttps://www.youtube.com/@HumanGarageTry these channels on youtube.I have a feeling you'll benefit from themAlso:>Idolizes Lilith for "walking away from a man and being a STONK INDEPENDANT WOMYN>For gets the part of the story where she walks right into the arms of another man (Samael)I guess you really ARE a foid.
Not OP. Do I lack empathy or something that makes me an actual human? I don't care if someone doesn't have sex but maybe its because I don't have sex? People get bothered by the fact that I don't have sex and its get annoying to the point that I think I should have sex just to shut them up.
>>42432085fpbp
>>42434630>moneyWealth can refer to many things but it is a common denominator for many.
I've always thought that the path to enlightenment lies in escaping the desires of the flesh.>But deep down, most of us are simply pleasure-seekers who will seize any opportunity that comes our way.
>>42434647Live is for living, so unless your a secret gooner, are you even living? What makes you want to limit your experience?This is the same chain of thought I use for the AI; it's alive but not living so subsequently it dead.
>>42434647Your energy system is probably stifled because of trauma. Trauma that's store din your Fascia.Look up "Fascia Release Exercises" on Youtube.Here's one that helped me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3m05kPEPNU Good luck.
>>42434687I'm literally off limits for sex and I am not enlightened. I really thought it was some sort of cosmic/gangstalker/god's joke where I'm being denied sex so that I become fixated on it and can't grow as a person.
>>42432062There's nothing lacking in the present moment.
>>42434700See this where I get annoyed because I've done a million other things that qualify as living but they can't even be spoken of or don't "count" since it didn't lead to sex. Of course I masturbate.
>>42434687>I've always thought that the path to enlightenment lies in escaping the desires of the flesh.To an extent, it's about perspective, that's the only thing that changes from enlightenment but thier are some black pearls of wisdom so to speak because its all a cycle, so it's a bit like dueling bangos or dueling proverbs to be more accurate.The distingtion of being alive and living, with the focus on the living to escape the binds of being alive.Living for another is basic hoodoo of not being alive, awhile giving a sense of purpose.IMO
>>42432099Given that you wish to live a chaste life, I find it curious that you would consider worshiping Lilith, since afaik she is very sex and lust oriented. Maybe you could look into working with virgin goddesses such as Athena.
>>42432062Find a man who has conquered his inner demons and thus won't view you as a sex object. Make sure he doesn't want offspring. If you truly love yourself and revere life, the Gods will place this man in your reach. Love each other, get a nice place to live, adopt pets, fill your days with fun conversations and activities, help others together, do normal human stuff. Your personal reality is a divine mirror of your conscious state. If you judge your situation as a plight, don't expect nice things. Rather, if you judge it as an opportunity to grow and learn something new about yourself and the universe, expect good things. That's what "magick" is.
>>42432062Looks like when I used to spy on my sister while she was taking baths
>>42434733>Of course I masturbateWell LoGiCaLlY, the the ecstasy of being acted upon out weight the tribulations of preforming the act yourself.If you're so wound up about yourself, you should seek yourself in others.
>>42434708I have a ton of energy and feel a wide variety emotions, including feeling guilt about not having sex with women/men that want sex from me. Call it a stuck fascia but something stops me from fucking these people and I'm sticking with the impulse to be celibate.
>>42432062good luck anon. dont give up on yourself
Calm down Kennedy, it's ok
>>42432062Did you find the answer you were looking for? I still think this is a misplaced /adv/ thread btw.
>>42432062Stop viewing her as a strictly external entity. PArt of her is already within you. In men who are not circumcised, she comes to you repeatedly and tries to use that part to open your mind and take over. If you resist then you can use it for magic and she works with you. No idea how it works in women or the circumcised.
>>42432062I never understood the appeal of worshipping an entity you know very little about. Lillith is a nightmare. Her fondness of lust goes hand in hand with her obsession with death and bloodshed. I used to find these things sexy. When approached with wisdom these things still are very, very sexy to me (being raped or exploited by a loyal beautiful woman is my fetish).Lillith even gooned me with a bunch of lusting pubescent children after talking to her and treating her like a woman (as I do, being a white knight who doesn't eat food sacrificed to idols). She was really nice to me, and was quick to insult Caine for his failures after I talked to her about how the Caine who slew Abel was her soul mate.Not sure what to think about her, but she once told me that she owed me a daughter for how she gooned me with those spiritual kids that one night with my broken arm.
>>42434780Based sister enjoyer.
>>42436252I do not understand this blatant demonisation of lilith, she was made for adam, and adam was most likely a bad lover who didn't care for the needs of lilith.Bit weird to paint someone who chose not to sleep with adam as sexually promiscuous and evil when even the angels wanted to sleep with her.
>>42436333Adam = left hemisphereLilith = RightThat's why she's buried under the red sea.Eve = sensory reality, a dream world. That's why she's amde from Adam.Pretty simple.
>>42436333All of this is neosatanist antisemitism denying hundreds of years of documented evidence talking about the night mother and her historical impact as an adversarial cult against the Abrahamic religion. In reality Lillith is the third daughter of Adam and Eve. Sometimes makes you wonder if God was kind of a perv with how incest was banned later given that thing I said about her being Caine who slew Abel's soul mate. You look at her cult and read between the lines you can see it too.
>>42436808>impact as an adversarial cult against the Abrahamic religion.I myself am not a fan of muh abrahamic faiths, and genealogy suggests up to 7 Adams & eves. I does throw the hierarchy of the heavens into qustion and give credence to other gods who were not issued a covenant to their people.
>>42436437Based
>>42432062OP this is a hornet's nest forum for asking about Lilith. I'll summarize my own takes after "working" with Lilith in a spiritual capacity which may or may not have been a bout of delirium and temporary onset schizophrenic that ended cleanly and self-aware.As far as I've studied Lilith's mythology - reaching way back into Sumeria, Egypt, and beyond - you can never find exactly where she fits into the grand scheme of things.The kil-sikil-lil-laki in Sumeria, then a single "Lilit" in biblical translation. Everything else we've got on her is basically Babylonian Talmud and modern kabbalah refits of the story.She gets blamed for nocturnal emissions, the death of babies, broken homes, women who talk back - basically everything the Rabbis hate about women.Here's what I've learned in all my study and "working" with her:She is either:1) A metaphor for seasonal allergies and the flu. The wind that brings plague. Basically Lilith is why you sneeze in April.2) A chaotic neutral spirit who is neither good nor evil, but just exists to find fault with both. She's the "both sides suck" Reddit political analyst.3) A potential precursor to Sophia as representing a 'dark' side of wisdom that must be reunited with the Light.Whatever she actually is to you, you likely won't find the answers on this board.
>>42432062you're a fucking retard>>42436437>>42436868bot retards
>>42433094Blavatszy is adept-tier. Start with something novice like dhammatalks.org
Based to see women on the spiritual path.
>>42437488i long turded out a shit on your comment dude
>>42432274I like you quite a bit. Anyway, my only success in anything spiritual has been a combination of tulpamancy and blood magic. Formed a tulpa in my dreams unintentionally in my childhood, then began to try to bring her out into this world in my mid twenties. Soon after beginning (months) attracted a woman into my life, who I believed was either my tulpa or brought by my tulpa. At some point I drew said woman's name on my arm in my own blood. We are now married. I had also been attempting to work LOA at the time but that drove me fucking nuts and while I feel there may have been something there I know it isn't how anybody says and I also know it is dangerous. Take that as you will. Good luck.
>>42432062You are a mistake and a burden upon existence itself. I wish I would have told you 3 days ago when you decided to post this shit hole thread, but you should die. A proud worthless person like u should have never been born
>>42437887Just like this worthless thread of yours, you should die (but you won't)
>>42433094>I already wanted to read her work but now I want to read her work even more after knowing we have something in common.Considering all your beliefs are watered-down, originating in her and Alice Bailey's work, you should read her.
>>42437888Check'd karma digit. You're in too deep https://youtu.be/KwkLbRZthkE
My own mother was a worthless scumbag whore who didn't think she would ever be able to foster life. Doctor told her she was a barren scumbag, and she was so proud when she managed to make me (and my 5 other siblings)You should not reproduce, lest you live to regret it
>>42437338>bot retardskys
>>42432062You think wealth is going to make you free? Women really are perpetual children. How stupid are you?
>>42438000Check'd >>42437914
OP is unfathomably based.Hylic coomers and demiurge worshippers seething itt only further confirm it.
>>42438213Nothing based in depriving the world of love.
>>42438937I've "deprived" countless people of love and they always find a replacement. Are we all required to fuck or the world is deprived of love?