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>>42439800
I'd be surprised if you could find anyone that can astral project (naturally) on schedule to do such an experiment. Apparently for most people it's really difficult just to get to the vibration stage, and those that claim they can easily do it and go around noclipping around the planet are simply bullshitters.

There used to be something called "Vehicle Transference Sorcery" around various parts of the internet (astralpulse, yahoo, scribd). Now searching for this term yields practically no real results at all. There was an unfinished manuscript (?) describing how master astral projectors would exchange their physical vessels. Why remove all traces of it from the entire web? Ten years ago, someone said that this was real and that they would delete this stuff wherever it's found. It also happened to a blog post about astral possession and body theft. None of this stuff was practical in any way but it gave ideas. I've never been this paranoid but genuinely all stuff that looked mildly interesting in the weirdest corners of the internet 10-20 years ago has vanished without a trace.

>>42440308
Yup this. It only happens to me randomly when I'm sick, off sleep schedule or get high mid sleep to try and go back to sleep.

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If OOBE on command is an issue, the "Hyper Dimensional Resonator" could fix that.

>>42440414
From my own experience, random and uncalled projections occur as "echoes" of previously attempted and successful experiences because they definitely fade away over long periods of non-practice.

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it's always the same "i have nothing to prove" canned responses

few explanations. maybe not having a scientific mind or curiosity is a prerequisite for having these experiences in the first place. or maybe they'd rather live with the delusion that they're special than risk any kind of test that could disprove it (which they subconciously place a very high probability on)

>>42439800
The astral doesn't exist.

>>42439800
Pointless overkill.
You want to experiment on this to verify it works then you can do it on your own. You can do it simply; get a pack of cards or similar and pick one at random and place it somewhere without looking at it.
Then when you astral projection you can then seek out the card and check what it is. Once back in your body you can verify.

Yea I do this kind of thing during dreamstate consciousness.. requires bosonic field resonance and consciousness is a bosonic field.. so.. not too extraordinary as far as exercises go

>>42442372
You are on the right track but you have some assumptions that you are not aware of yet..
Once you get into tangible examination of physical phenomena from the out of body perspective there are several aspects of the environment that are not functioning in the same manner as our ordinary physical material existence

Takes experience to gain enough data from direct personal observation to begin to get your bearings in the environment. There is no point to being concerned about the opinions of others who have no experience.. the data is confusing enough

I was ahead of the work of Skip Atwater at least according to the information in his book.. and contrasting his observations and timeline with my own.
He was responsible for bringing the army Stargate program into existence.. proof of concept.. funding etc

https://captain-of-my-ship.com/

>>42442824
This post is also pointless.
All you’ve said is that you are not capable of looking at an object reliably.
Essentially you’ve admitted it’s just all fake.
>>42442269
This

>>42442939
You have assumed that you know what data can be collected.
Confident ignorance is its own hardened shell of protection against discovery of new knowledge.
Perhaps it's for the best that the hard headed people who are actively willfully applying ignorance are continuously locked away from knowledge by their own habitual practices.

You already know everything that you will ever tolerate being known.
You have no need for New knowledge that might destabilize the knowledge you have already accepted as true

The actual path of discovery is uncomfortable advance into the unknown.. and to delve into knowledge that the herds of the mindless populace is unaware of requires independent intellectual strength and resolute resourcefulness.
Even once you have gained a knowledge of perception by cognitive means the uncharted realms must be discovered and navigated without guidance.
Comprehension is not automatically granted but earned through long series of errors and corrections.
Discovery can overturn preconceived notions ..it is of more value to discover your previous inadequate perception than to cauterize your process of discovering with the notion that you have already found all there is to find

Weak minds will not be following you to the edges of reality as you discover what you are capable of perceiving

They will stand on solid ground that they have tracked every quarter of to conclude that they have already seen all that is. They will declare that they are aware of the finite boundaries of all reality while they have a blind spot large enough to hide more than the entire universe as they conceive of it.

It is a sad reality that all that can be done for these people is to quietly accept that they already know all that they ever will

>>42442939
Essentially you've admitted you're retarded.

>>42442830
This is the guy responsible for the creation of the army signal Corp human intelligence information gathering "Stargate" program.

I was not just ahead of him, my efforts to perceive had reached deeper and more broadly than his limited conceptualizations were able to navigate.
I prefer to assume that the intelligence community has more capable personnel that have never been exposed to the public. If not there are serious concerns about who exactly is flying the figurative ship.. or if you want to consider operations such as Solar Warden the ships are not figurative.

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Its lucid dreaming
They cant verify any of it to be anything but lucid dreams
They stopped using it because its not useful and they didnt do any better than random chance at finding stuff
People who are superforecasters *dont use APing*.

>>42445634
You have convinced yourself that you have a clue.
No one is going to get between you and your imagination.

NO ONE has posted a burner mail in the thread

>>42445670
It’s been tested by the non-insane and it’s lucid dreaming.
It’s over.

>>42446788
Just like no one posts readings in natal chart threads, only their own charts. People aren't here for that

>>42442254
The real conspiracy is against stuff like this. You can larp all you want, you can talk about personal experiences but the moment you try to make it a science you'll get disposed of. This is the real reason you'll never get anything.

>>42440452
Let me guess - you put that inside your ass and get shocked by high voltage discharges?

>>42447471
no you put that thing on your chest and it can get very hot

>>42445634
it's not. lucid dreaming doesn't mess with feelings of energy waves, chakra sensations long outside of sleep.

>>42447478
yes it does

>>42447478
You don’t have any energy waves and chakras aren’t real.

>>42447474
Sounds painful. Would be better in evoking higher states of consciousness if it could shock your ass.

>>42440452

WITNESS
RUBBING PLATE

>>42447464
because it doesnt fucking work and everyone knows it

>>42439800
You should learn more about the fundamentals before coming up with your own “tests”. You think you’re the first person to imagine trying this?

>>42447017
If the thread doesn't die I might. Most of the people who I actually talk to on discord I have had at least one shared vision with. Not servers, just private conversations between two people ..and the global intelligence community overseeing all communications data.
I am able to engage the function being described by OP on a pretty frequent basis with people of all backgrounds and from various locations.
It requires both people to be sensitive to the imagery within their minds.. everyone is doing this all the time but most people don't remember. It can also be done with only one person remaining consciously aware but if you are seeking to create data at least two separate locations need to generate a description of the scene and events of the shared vision environment.
It's of value for the purpose of evaluating the inner character of a person, you get to see their actual disposition if their inner cognitive presence is not stable and calmly at rest.

For me this is all just ordinary stuff. I still have questions.. but my questions are very different in light of what experience I have already resolved behind me

All the flailing retards saying that it's not a thing can more accurately say that their own knowledge is not actually a thing

>>42447778
*hugs*

>>42439800
Astral Projection Verification Experiments have already been done btw

>>42447778
>I will kill myself.
>you are all stupid….the elites run everything….i have questions that I won’t write here….i am very smart….i use dots
>y-you’re the retard! F-flailing!
Shut up larper.

>>42447945
It's actually pretty funny that you seem to have misinterpreted the first sentence in my post due to not considering that it was a response to the post I had linked to.


You have indeed made a fine display of flailing.

i would love to experiment and meetup in the other realm, but i am clinicly disabled, i have no rem cycles, heck i dont even dream.

>>42447778
I would like less claims without evidence and more emails so the experiment can actually be done

>>42448011
>y-you didn’t consider what I had implied! You only considered what I actually wrote!
>I control the astral and can send thoughts to your head!
>b-but I no write good UwU
Pathetic.

>>42439800
Some nonverbal autistic kids make friends with other autistic kids from hundreds or thousands of miles away in the exact same way apparently. They have a common communion point and all.

>>42447586
Kwab, keep coping goy cuck lol

>>42440308
>ust to get to the vibration stage
i could easily get to this stage but never to next stage because my heart started beating so much

if you touch astral bodies together you will get an orgasm btw

>>42450054
what a weirdly specific and odd thing to say. interesting, can you tell me more about it?

once i had a very short glimpse at what my astral body was doing, i was flying across the cosmos, the galaxies, when i observed/noticed a huge, several kilometers high, dinosaur/t-rex-like giant of molten rock on a planet terra forming it. 3-4 seconds after i was watching "him" he noticed me too and instantly woke up irl.
to this day this puzzles me, because, it noticed me. (like a consciousness taking note/acknowleding the existence/presence of another consciousness) i dont know how to explain it better.
maybe thats why im b& from the dream and astral world, at least for this spin of the wheel....

>>42450646
kek same, i'd get nervous as fuck and fuck it all up :(

To all self-sabotaging anons here, stop for a minute and think what you are doing to yourself. "I'm banned, I'm disabled, I cannot do it" won't get you anywhere. Don't be weaklings like that. Be stronglings instead. Just fucking toss your excuses in the trash and double your efforts.

>>42439800
Yes microchipped s the lost know he w false thiught neo here and joker um realm of the dea gargoyles dragons and plane with zio in astral of dge soul rippednout of body 300i feet dark evil soup collision hergigoio and then clouds gargoyles had a pedo butterfly one fly out of me 2019 demons I felt it flapping

>>42447945
>>42448589
kek

>>42450095
Posting like this doesn’t convince me that you are right. I think he’s right. No way an enlightened being who can leave their body and travel around other realms acts like you.
This is all garbage.

>>42453786
Ya enlightened people dont call others "goy cuck" that's a low vibe act

>>42454202
>Unwilling to address the JQ out of fear
>Still being bullied by society's opinions into subservience
Fear is an unenlightened state btw