Can you tell me a prayer or a deity to ask for a favor? It's a simple but necessary favor for me.
>>42441105No bigger god than yourself to get things done.
sure i know a guy, what chu need
>>42441105You're playing with forces you can't comprehend my boiA Deity is a force, as strong as you want it to be. Like jumping from a window then fly or die. That's basically it. Most people in this material realm, ask for things pretty much attainable, they just want material things, we live in a material system that produces and offer just material shit. You want it? TAKE IT. Oh, you don't want to go to jail? or you don't want to deal with guilt? or you don't want to confront the obstacle? Or you just WANT IT without dealing with any hassle attached to get that thing? See? Every "level", requires a higher type of offering or risk. But not the "risk" you think of, like going to jail, or getting your shit fucked up by an angry mob... No, that higher option that looks so dreamy and convenient "I want it, but without any of the hassle" you can find the one "deity" that will offer it to you... but you will be asked for the highest level of commitment, the one that you don't walk away of, you stay there forever. A piece of shit willing to SAY whatever is NEEDED to say, it's important, very important. And you may want to know "how" will they keep you inside the circle? Well, don't worry about it, you start by not even blinking about it, they will have their "initiation ritual", a "sacrifice" a "camera" and "you". Now they own you, and you can have whatever you want, as long as you are willing to do whatever they tell you to do. Don't worry, these deities won't ask you to put your pretty ass in "danger", remember, they need you, and they went into a lot of trouble to allow you into the circle. You will have to stand in front of a room full of people and lie to them for money, don't worry you don't have to come up with the scheme, or the speech, they will give it to you, you just have to deliver it, like a hit man, a professional hit man. And then you will have to screw other crowd, and another crowd, bigger and bigger every time, till one day you are a deity yourself
>>42441233I accept
>>42441105Yahweh holds back no good thing from those who love him, but many times he knows what's better for us than we know for ourselves
>>42441351You know what to do then, Charles Ponzi is a "deity". He lay it down clearly, for all times. You gotta keep the ball running, if the ball stops, it's over. What he found is that you can get OTHERS to keep the ball running, and others beyond those, and more successively, till the ball goes out of sight, ad infinitum... wich is the amount of available riches out thereHow to get your own Ponzi scheme going? Of course you can just target any valuables around you and just snatch it, right? But that's a one time grift. But what if you can convince "someone" to pay you for a "course" on "something"? But you use the money for whatever other shit, you don't "course" SHIT. Now how to keep this grift going? Maybe you convince others to do the same, and with the profit you come up with your own fake school of "something" as a cover for those other grifters, so you all be screwing someone to pay you for an "education course" made up by you li'l shits, with a made up degree backed up by some low life legal shit who is willing to give you legal cover for your "School of fuckery" so you're handing over a "Legal Degree on fuckery". IT DOESN'T MATTER the grift, what matters is someone is providing a flow of money, that could have been spent in any other bullshit anyways. So you may say, "what's all this buffoonery?" Well, this buffoonery is basically what a WHOLE CHUNK of the upper side of the pyramid of power does, they create flow of money, they connect people, they -siphon money- out of the wilderness. That's what "Executive Producer" means in the movie credits. AND THAT'S what this "deity" you're looking for wants, a guy who "produces" streams of money, by whatever means or conditions, they want "money sorcerers", if you can take everyday one dollar bills out of someone systematically every single day, you're the man to make the deal, because it doesn't matter the "amount", you could be taking 100 dollar bills out of people else if "that someone" gives you that chance
>>42441351This shit that I wrote >>42441511 Is real. There are politicians in power right now coming out of this exact grift pathetic system. Yeah, fake schools on "economics" with fake degrees, and fake legal cover. That puts them in the "spot" to be "chosen". It exists and it moves the world, a world that is falling down now because this ponzi system is rotten to the core. The important thing here is that this shit is no game, you can create a snow ball of "will" and "intention" doing this mental manipulation crap (specially in the younger population) that can end up in tragedy. Cults, sects, "challenges", but, it is being used for what you want. Is in our faces, fake companies, fake products, to create a flow of money. You can see it on Space x, all those fuckers larping as cool engineers with their men buns and their faggot high tight pants cheering and wooing while a trillion dollars from the american tax payers goes boom on a screen every month. They made it, they are making bank, that's the grift, not the fucking useless piece of shit rocket.You can bullshit your way out to mars if you want, but do it smartly, don't end up cut in pieces in a fucking travel suitcase dropped at the side of the highway.
>>42441105Ask the favor to yourself. You are the only one who will actually do it.
>>42441383BS he makes his followers beg for scraps.
>>42441105I can personally recommend Odin, but it depends on what you are looking for.
>>42441814He owes us nothing
>>42441878And we owe him EVERYTHING right? Sorry anon but I don't feel like groveling to your slave master and his claims of omnipotence are a lie.
>>42441933Jesus claims to divinity are stronger than any other historical figure.
>>42442040Lol, LMAO even.
>>42441105Ask and I will try.
>>42442041You are incapable of naming anything more credible
>>42441233That is not what a Deity is.You couldn't be more wrong.
>>42442045None of it is credible anon. Books are not proof of supernatural phenomena.
>>42442053Why not
>>42441105Take a shower at 6 am. Cleanse your thoughts as you prepare a cup of wine with water. Pour it in three times over an altar of your chosing while talking to Athena. Don't know what's about Greek gods that they reply fast and with no room for doubt.
>>42442063Forgot to mention, pour the wine when the sun starts rising. When its first rays reach you.
>>42442055You said it yourself. Books aren't credible. They can and do say anything. The Bible isn't some magic exception.
>>42442068I never said that. Historical documents can be credible references to historical events, why would supernatural phenomena be an exception
>>42442045The Bible is supernatural, it's far too brilliant to be written by man.
>>42442071So do you believe Indian Gurus preformed supernatural feats? Texts say they did. No you only think YOUR texts are real and everything thing else is fairytales. I say they are all fairytales unless we can find some corroborating PHYSICAL evidence. Also good historical evidence has multiple sources of different backgrounds. None of the worlds magic books that describe supernatural things are historically attributed by outside sources. It is only ever the singular source that says supernatural things happened.
>>42442093>it's far too brilliant to be written by man."There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses"Ezekiel 23:20
>>42442098None of the indian texts are as historically viable as the Christian new testament
>>42442140>historically viableNone of the texts are historically viable.
>>42442045NTA but the story of Jesus Christ is matched beat for beat by both the Buddha and the Egyptian god Horus. It's not even original.
>>42442104That was a top tier burn, God doesn't like whores
>>42441105They say that Shiva works.But before you can ask for things you have to do some decades of prayers and offerings.
>>42441178this
>>42442173No it's not. Horus is not a real historical figure and Buddhas documents were not written by a generation that knew him personally
>>42443036Bad faith argument. Yeshua of Nazareth wasn't a real historical figure either, and the Bible was written centuries after the fact, but you of course knew that already. Have a good day.
>>42443429There is not a single new testament document that was written centuries after Jesus. You are uninformed.
>>42441105This probs won't be super helpful, and I can't even confirm it personally since I gave the item away as a gift to my high-school crush, so the report is 2nd hand. I my teens I came across some sort of household magic book (nothing esoteric, it was a big encyclopedia-like book, hardcover with pictures and shit, covering all sorts of magic, its history etc. One that I came across and was interested by was numbers magic. The process was following a simple encryption table translating letters (or maybe words) into a numbered grid, then drawing a shape/symbol/rune across the numbers to spell out what you desired.I'd carved a wooden totem of some tree spirit or whatever, etched that symbol (it was for wealth) into its base and gifted it to the teacher I had a crush on.We stayed in touch years after I graduated, and she went from a struggling household to a pretty rich family. She still claims it was to do with that totem.No clue what the book was called, what exact school of numerical magic it was - and I haven't bothered to look into it anyway, since I'm generally sceptical of magic.The symbol something looked like the number 4, skewed to the right.Good luck
>>42441582>>42441511Based effortposter. It's indeed the mechanism by which "YouTube personalities" operate. They make up bullshit, watch the reaction - if they gain viewers, then they progressively develop their bullshit. That's why I don't watch any of them, I'll never give money to these professional liars, even passively. All they ever do is talking, but never have anything to show for their claims except words, often with no way to demonstrably prove them wrong. For an example, there's a pink elephant in my basement. But... It's invisible, but I can tell it's there due to quantum fluctuations I feel being in the shape of an elephant, the color of which can be seen during lucid dre-, I mean, astral projection. But you've got to trust me, bro...
>>42441823Wild Hunt, where you can hang out with Odin and other spirits, doing crazy shit at night.
>>42442104Just like my nibboneze anniemays...!
>>42443036NTA but he is talking about the plot points in the story not when they were written. The "resurrected" son of God has been done before along with all of his supposed miracles. These stories are OLDER.
>>42441105Every time I’ve seen a post like this here and offer my assistance the poster always comes back with something like “can you make me into an anime little girl”. So no. You will unfortunately have to live with this burden.
>>42443710>"can you make me into an anime little girl”Why live if you can't be an actual anime loli?
>>42443698They arent historically viable just because they're older, and the Jesus events aren't unviable just because similar acts were invented before These should be examined independently, unless there's particular reason to think otherwise.
>>42444238None of them are viable. I am simply stating that it is obvious this fairytale plagiarized older fairytales.
>>42444570The Jesus events are viable for several reasons, not only withstanding the historical documents written independently and shortly after his death, but the wide belief and distribution of them, and the conversion of the churches enemies like saul of tarsus
>>42441105Has anyone played Cyberpunk 2077?If you start with the Streetkid Origin Story Intro...let me aks yoo sommat...Since when does a boduguard or a henchman leave a gun on the table while sitting across from their Mob Boss, while eating a cheeseburger...pointed at the Mob Boss instead of at the Subject? Look at what the drink on the table is called...>CHAMPARADISELet us explore where champs or warriors go when they die...yes, in Norse Myth and Viking glory, they go to Valhalla...their Champaradise...now look at the name of the first real questgiver in the PICREL...it is a Kirk...Now then, concerning the "real life Kirk," of whom Mr. Patty Kash Patel and Label...declaring that Kirk for Valhalla...Now I get many of you all used to Predictive Programming, I am not doing this for Vainglory...if I was doing it for that I'd be a Youtuber Conspiracy Sellout...Take care everyone===Other C. Kirk-related presages...Harold Camping interviews where he is talking about the Rapture, at a high vantage on a display cabinet, a Lucy figurine from CHARLIE Brown...thus Chalrie Kirk...theh Lucy Butler from the X-Files creator Chris Carter created the Character named Lucy Butler for his other show Millennium (Butler real yet faked attempt) and what Cris Carter, the former Vikings NFL football player have to do with this...Vikings go to Valhalla...You decide what it means to any of you...
>>42444667>People sincerely believedYea no other religion has ever had sincere devout converts. Is the book of Mormon legit because it was written within the lifetime of it's founder and people legitimately converted afterwards?
>>42444690He didn't raise from the dead
>>42444702Neither did Rabbi Yeshua.
>>42444702And Jesus didn't attain Nirvana.
>>42444703It seems as though he did when the historical evidence is examined without bias, like the examples I gave. Christianity during the time of the apostles and Jesus were not of the same veracity as Joseph smith and Mormonism, you're only expressing your own lack of familiarity with the materials
>>42444719The claim itself isn't evidence of the claim. Mormonism makes different claims so whether it is true or not is dependent on ITS claims. You seem to be arguing that because people believed something outlandish (the resurrection), this puts it in a unique category. It doesn't, people have believed genuinely crazy things repeatedly throughout history. If anything the fact that it is so outlandish means that proving it really happened is much harder.
>>42444719>Without BiasSays the Christian, you couldn't be unbiased if your life depended on it (it does).
>>42444772People didn't claim to believe it They claimed to have witnessed, investigated, and experienced it, independently, and in some cases from an antagonistic starting point. And on a large, unheard of scale, amidst systemic persecution from all sides Whatever comparison there is with Mormonism and other religions would be on a much smaller scale (if there's any comparison at all)
>>42444783A bloo bloo
>>42444785You are convinced of the specialness of your own claim. Paul didn't witness the supposed resurrection BTW, he simply converted. As for Yeshuas disciples they where all his loyal sycophants before his execution, they had every reason to let his legend grow unchecked.
>>42444807I am not claiming anything, I am referencing historical documents and comparing them with the documents you referenced. I also never said Paul was a witness, however he did say he experienced the risen Jesus and spoke with hundreds of contemporaries who did witness the resurrection and were still alive at the time of his writing >As for Yeshuas disciples they where all his loyal sycophants before his execution, they had every reason to let his legend grow unchecked.This is a projection of your bias, I am examining each of these historical documents in their own merit.
>>42444825Many people have claimed to "experience" things. Anon you think I am biased but you are the one who thinks the Bible is supernaturally compelling. Even calling them "historical documents" is a show of your bias. At best they are "religious accounts".
>>42444838The new testament is considered even by secular authorities as a collection of historical documents regardless of their religious or supernatural material, just like Herodotus. This doesn't mean everything in them is true, I hope you start using Google or ai before running these assertions by me in your next reply The reason not everyone's experiences are equally compelling is because they aren't experienced on the same scale. For example even the largest record account of mass hysteria, the dancing fever, was not experienced on the same scale as the resurrection
>>42444860Yea anon, and you are using the term "historical documents" to give legitimacy to your religious fantasies when you ultimately have ZERO evidence so sorry if I dislike the term. They are historical in the sense of documenting the rise of a religious cult but it's like believing information about North Korea from North Korea. Is Kim Jon Un a real person? Yes, but the claims about him are exaggerated. Was Yeshua a real person? Most likely and it does seem to be the case that he lead a splinter religious movement but the claims of his supernatural abilities and supposed resurrection aren't supported by acknowledging the former. People lie and I have no reason to believe this part of the story is anything other than a lie. You are liar anon. Paul is a liar, Yeshuas disciples are liars, and most importantly he is a liar. I am not inclined to worship a liar.
>>42444941It's in North Koreas favor to disseminate their propaganda, it was not in early Christians favor to disseminate the event of the resurrection if it weren't true You keep drawing false parallels that are very easily disputed if you did even a few minutes of research. It seems you WANT to believe it's a lie.
>>42444964>to disseminate the event of the resurrection if it weren't trueAdmitting that he was executed and he didn't come back makes him look weak. They had every incentive to lie about this. Admitting that the Pharisees successfully eliminated their political rival is a humiliation.
>>42444989You're reducing the context of the resurrection heavily They were tortured and killed, is that not worse than being embarrassed You clearly have not actually studied this in depth and are pulling assertions out of your ass. It's time you be honest with yourself and do some private research.
>>42445009I know the fucking story you kike. That they were martyred doesn't mean shit. It is possible to be willing to die for something and to lie about it to get more people on your side at the same time.
>>42445029When has that ever happened especially on a large scale You're just asserting whatever assumptions about their psychology serves your bias instead of just examining the documents.
