I am open minded and curious about this concept. I admit upfront that I have no experience and I do not expect to succeed quickly if at all. However, I would like to give this a try with an open mind and report my findings. I am a natural skeptic, but I'm not here to disparage or debunk. I'd appreciate tips and I'll experiment with every good faith suggestion. I'll report my findings here for others.My plan at present is based on things I've read here: I will meditate before bed. I sleep alone so I will likely not be disturbed. I will lie on my back and focus on the lights that eventually form as I start to lose consciousness. I will hang onto my consciousness and focus on thinking about nothing and separating myself from emotions. I will try it with and without blankets, with and without preparatory soundwaves.
>>42442309I wish you well on your journey and hope quick progress comes to you. But this isn't something you can "half ass" and pick up willy nilly. I requires drive and discipline if you want to get results. Don't get discouraged if something doesn't happen right away. And leave your expectations at the door, check thoughts that may arise such as "This isn't working" "I can't do this".
>>42442309You must be healthy with a good heart to astral travel If you have fear or your aura is weak, you won't leave your body. Anyway if you can't astral project, you are good for another reincarnation in this hell.
>>42442452says who?
>>42442335>>42442452Thankyou. I have physical limitations in that I do live with my parents (I'm an adult though) and I don't want to seem "weird" to them by doing this in a way they'd notice. But I have pretty great health and I am unafraid of death in waking so I don't fear anything in the Astral.
>>42442452>larp lore I just made up>>42442467Yes lying on a bed and seeming to be asleep will definitely seem incredibly weird. No one has ever done that.
>>42442467I don't really foresee any issue for you unless your parents think that you laying down on your bed is weird. If you want to do hemi sync stuff though that requires you doing resonate tuning with your voice and nose, so they might think that is weird, because you have to make ohm noises like a gregorian monk or buddhist monk does. Those are only like 30 minutes long per session, so unless they frequently bother you by coming into your room, like my mom sometimes does, then you should be fine.
>>42442467>I have physical limitations in that I do live with my parents (I'm an adult though) and I don't want to seem "weird" to them by doing this in a way they'd notice.I have similar problems with lucid dreaming.
>>42442309>will hang onto my consciousness and focus on thinking about nothing and separating myself from emotionsThe ego chains the soul to the body, emotion is the vehicle upon which you travel to the astral plane.You need to separate the emotions of the body from the emotion of the soul, so the mind can take flight and experience that which is not the body.I dont think you're wise enough to project.
>>42442605I don’t think your larp is good enough to post.
>>42442605>emotion is the vehicle upon which you travel to the astral plane.>You need to separate the emotions of the body from the emotion of the soulI was under the impression that I need to separate myself from my emotions. What's the difference between emotions of the body and of the soul?>I dont think you're wise enough to project.Then I guess I'll just have to grow wiser.
>>42442624Follow the mainstream advice of how to get comfortable and clear your head, but don't listen to anything past that. The few here who have actually left their bodies and not just experienced a lucid dream will tell you that nobody can figure it out for you, and trying to follow someone else's instructions will only make it harder.
>>42442605Stfu I have been projecting since childhood. It's not complicated, you certainly don't need to be "wise" to do it. It is a very real thing that doesn't require nonsense worthiness/ego talk.OP continue what you are doing, you are on the right path. be curious and willing.Check this out, help get back into it after a long dry period. https://youtu.be/YQjAIlFZWWc?si=JkT_nJ2rXldgao3H
>>42442719Good larp free post.>>42442605Complete shit.And no I am not >>42442719he’s just posting better stuff here and not being a total larper. No idea why so many people make stuff up constantly.
>>42442624>What's the difference between emotions of the body and of the soul?This is what you find through meditation to home in on it. Separating the desires of the mind/ego and body to decipher that which is neither.The whole is more than the sum of the parts, that extra bit which makes the whole more than the parts is what we are trying to access, but it doesn't exsist without the parts to manifest it.It is that part that dissappears when you stop time.
>>42442741Lmao. Why do you do this? Need attention or something?
>>42442719Lucid dreaming isn't astral projecting, wisdom is a matter of perspective, that is the only thing that changes with wisdom, and some people naturally see things differently without being wise.
>>42442746>Why do you do this? Need attentionNo witches
>>42442751Lucid dreaming is astral projection.
>>42442762No it's not, you may be toying with the astral plane, but you'll never find the astral library just by lucid dreaming you are merely a book upon a shelf when you do so, regardless of the amount of books you dream to be in the library you are not in the library, the book is.
>>42442762If you were to lucid dream within a lucid dream, then your starting to get somewhere.
>>42442776No such thing as the astral. Entirely within your head. It’s lucid dreaming,>>42442783Staying in the same place.
>>42442776Now I know for sure you have no experience projecting.In my experience lucid dreaming is just low awareness AP, you need to workout your "conscious muscle".Follow the video I posted and gain real experience so you will have something with substance to talk about in the future. Check this out, good stuff here:https://www.reddit.com/r/AstralProjection/comments/n34zh5/astral_projection_quick_start_guide/
>>42442793>Entirely within your headAnd your head is too small to encompass the akashic records, so one must move beyond the body and the mind to navigate it the library.Faith, the emotion of the soul is required but I can not tell you what to believe in, you must make your own vehicle to navigate it.
>>42442809>you need to workout your "conscious muscleYou ain't training to make it strong, you are exhausting it to make the binds weaker.marys room thought experiment, I may not be a mary in a room like you, but i have seen it.I have nearly died and had my life flash before my eyes in black and white, I am not a mary reading a book about it, i am the one who has seen the red room with no prior knowledge to Mary's research.If you think that lucid dream is astral projection, I don't know what to tell you or your *starter* guide.
>>42442710>>42442719>>42442741Thankyou, I'm open to trying any good faith advice. This concept fascinates me. I'll try the simplest approaches first.
>>42442809>Astral Projection, or an Out-of-Body Experience, or Near Death Experience, is the process of detaching consciousness from the body and travelling into non-physical reality; this reality is commonly called the Astral Plane. This is NOT the same as lucid dreamingMy guy, this thing you linked even says its not lucid dreaming... need i read more about how to suck eggs?
>>42442828>I have nearly diedI was at a swimming pool, I wanted to see how far I could swim underwater, when i came up their was a float above me, I swim the other way and the float was above me, I tried to swim away again but the float was still above me, and my vision cut to black & white, as my brain recalled all past memories looking for an answer to help me escape, time slowed down as flickering imagines played out in full within that flicker like a whole 10 second clip within milliseconds, my body moved without instruction.When I think back to it, i always remember that scene from chicken run (pic related) and it makes me laugh!
>>42442887I mean you can try to recreate nearly dieing to awaken you to the binds, but if your doing it intensely then you will most likely die because you know what you are trying to do, but it's not something you can't do intensely.
>>42442802>>42442824>>42442830Being fully conscious while the body is sleeping is not actually dreaming in the same sense that the inexperienced are using the word.. but they don't make the distinction either way
>>42442811If you are going to LARP at least look up what it is you are using as a basis for the LARP.No one has ever accessed the Akashic records. There was no concept of it before it was gradually built up by Theosophy related thinkers during the later 19th century. Looking into the history of it I can’t see how you’d take it seriously. It’s extremely easy to trace the development of this basic and not even all that old fake story.>>42442840No such thing as the astral. Eggs are real though.>>42442902Meds.
>>42442906Also me>>42442773
https://youtube.com/shorts/qYcnKYB7Sdw
>>42442840I guess I was thinking they are sort of the same thing because I have successfully separated separated before fully aware in my room. But I have tried to leave my room by hovering out the window, its weird its when I get some distance from my house everything around me changes and I just end up somewhere else.My memory of the point where I leave my home becomes dream like.Any explanation? I was thinking I stopped projecting at that point became normal dreaming.
>>42442931The problem is that it isn't a larp is it...The idea has always exsist and will always exsist within the metaverse regardless of the names they go by or stories written about them. Astral library/akashic records/library of babel all share the same essence, a source of knowledge not from this world.>No such thing as the astralA non-believer! Go back to your godless world, cretin. The soul is real dispite your attempts at erasure, science has its own flaws and the scientific method doesn't work if you dont know what you're measuring.
I almost succeeded but don't intend to try it again in my current cycle and mindset. If the vibrations in your body get real intense and quite uncomfortable, push through. At the time I got scared and quit there. Good luck Anon.
>>42442994Sounds like your trying to project into the physical realm, not the astral plane.Out of body is not something im too familiar with... something about the soul being a produce of the body what can thusly be deattached from the body and survivor briefly within the vehicle upon the material plane or something. No telling where the dreaming stops and the projection begins, not my speciality.
>>42443038Nope, the Akashic was made up not very long ago. It is not an old myth.The astral doesn’t exist. >cretinLmao, it’s you making the ludicrous claims.It’s obviously just a dream state.>>42443065>I don’t know anything about this.Quite a few words to say nothing.
>>42442762And Astral Projection is Lucid Dreamimg. How are you sure that you just didn't dream that you were APing?
>>42443163Like any sane person I can test it. You can’t find things you don’t already know.It’s entirely within your head. Stop larping.
>>42443170>It’s entirely within your head. Stop larping.So? If these things happened it would be only experienced subjectively in first person. There's no such a thing as something happening outside my direct experience.
>>42443125>im a fucking dog shit moron who doesn't know how to quote people, so i make up things and pretend they say it.I argue out of bad faith and im just here to be a cog in the works and generally cause an unpleasant smell.That's you, you said that.>I dont understand the theory of forms & essence and it somebody didn't write it down, I dont believe it.I want you, to fuck off because you're are just here to be a fucking shit.I'm not wasting anymore time entertaining a cynic such as yourself.Good bye.
>>42443170>You can’t find things you don’t already know.What happens when you do...
>>42442982nothing beats zen baby
>>42443125Come on you dick head, let's see how far gods mercy takes you without a god you shit raping ass eater.
>>42443279It’s not real and seething won’t help. Bye.>>42443317Back already? Are you coming on to me? I don’t swing that way anon.>>42443286You don’t and you won’t.
>>42443361>I can't do it so no one else can do it, that's why I come here to be a prick and show what a faithless heathen I am.That's why you need to fuck off if your only contribution is nay saying, or perhaps better yet you go to church and tell them how they're all living a lie, even better still you should do it at a mosque.Even the laws of man will have you put in a bind for your immoral behaviour.You serve no purpose here, just like your existence in society, you are a nobody, just another dribbling idiot follow the narrative of another.You sicken me
>>42443163Experience is a long process during which you gather direct observational data and evaluate it to formulate an understanding. You can gather direct observation of various phenomenon to establish a working knowledge of the parameters of our existence.Through direct collection of visual imagery.. of things that you have no access to ..due either to space or time.. you can build your understanding of the reality of your own ability to perceive directly by cognitive imagery within the mind.Knowledge is never truly finalized; there is always more.Hypothetically and theoretically there is a threshold boundary beyond which this is no longer true.. this is far beyond our existence in the current form of humanity Br thorough in your thoughts and investigations>>42442906
>>42443566Knowledge can be finalized and conclusions draw A car is a car. A cat is a cat (not a dog). 1 +1 is 2.If you look into astral projection you will find it is just a dream state. Nothing beyond that.>>42443439>stop saying what I don’t like!No. Continue to seethe.
>>42443053What frightened you? I've read that you may encounter entities if you have negative thoughts.
>>42443591I'm asking you to stop pretending I said things I never did... you are doing in again you degenerate fuck head
>>42443591>Knowledge can be finalized and conclusions draw>A car is a car. A cat is a cat (not a dog). 1 +1 is 2.>If you look into astral projection you will find it is just a dream state. Nothing beyond thatThat dream state is a connection to the metaphysical. Are you saying metaphysics isn't real?Come on you reductionist moron, reject science using scientific principles... dew it shit head
>>42443591So you are comfortable doubling down on your forgone conclusions with no interest in knowing more than you already imagine yourself to know.. and you are absolutely certain that you are already correct. So that's it. You're done. Congratulations. Watch the time ticking down. You are planning to die with no new discovery of your own consciousness and existence. When your physical body can no longer support life the lessons will continue..
>>42443813Please seethe forever,Meds might help, you should look into them.>>42443828You need solid meds, not metaphysical ones. There is no astral plane just as there are no thoughts in your head that are worth sharing with anyone.
>>42444277Your faith in psychoactive chemistry is probably a good indicator of what you yourself are in need of.
>>42443652It was a long long time ago so I don't remember. Probably second thoughts, "am I ready" "fuck this is too real"That's also why I don't want to try it again. I have fears, I have anxiety in my life, and I have hallucinations once with THC that I don't want to face again. So unless I really progress spiritually I don't consider myself ready, tho I believe this thing is 100% real.
>>42444277>not metaphysical onesI welcome the placebo, too bad they don't work on those who are aware of them, regardless of how hard i believe? Does the partaking in bread and sharing of wine hold no effect?You would say no, would you not?
>>42445183nice pic. this is what it felt like to mow the lawn when I was 13.
>>42442309I will look forward possessing your body when you are floating out there. muahaha
Well two things...1.- It's hard, start with lucid dreaming, use the gateway experience tapes until you master them, takes like a month of daily practice.2.- Astral projection happens more randomly than intentionally at least on my experience.Welcome to the consciousness-nautics anon
>>42446937sisyphus pushing a mower up a mountain?Im forever having to listen to people telling me about them mowing the lawn, I tell them they've been mowing the lawn for years, havnt they finished doing it yet?
>>42442309You should try guided meditations first. And past life regression meditations specifically. And if you try Kundalini awakening meditations, make sure not to pray to Thoth, because you'll get him.
>>42446956Well, jokes on you because I didn't manage it on my first try.This night I did breathing exercises for an unknowable amount of time, lying on my back. I tried to "sink" into it and I got the sinking feeling but must have drifted off eventually. I had some cool dreams but they weren't vivid.>>42446957What even is the difference from a practical level? They seem so similar in how you prepare for them that I might as well just go for astral projection.
>>42447425They are the same thing.
>>42446957>start with lucid dreamingSuch a chud approach to it, i am reminded of a zen teaching.A weary student had spent years doing rigorous practices and studying ancient texts, hoping to finally reach the ultimate state of peace and happiness—Nirvana.One day, on his journey to the monastery to ask his teacher about the secret of Nirvana, the student stopped to rest. He sat beside a beautiful river, listened to the wind rustling through the trees, and felt a profound, sudden wave of pure joy and stillness. He realized that for this brief moment, all his worries, desires, and burdens had completely vanished.When he finally arrived at the teacher's cottage, he shared his discovery and asked: "Why did you never tell me this place of happiness was here?"The master smiled warmly and replied: "I did not tell you because the place of happiness you found is not a destination. It is the awareness of 'this moment'. If I had told you of it, you would have spent the entire journey reaching for a concept in your mind, instead of looking around and seeing the truth of your surroundings."The Lesson:Nirvana is not somewhere you travel to after you die; it is the peace that washes over you when your mind stops clinging to the past or obsessing over the future, and simply rests exactly where you areI feel like the lucid dreaming will prevent you from projecting, tho I can't not fault it's methodology to wards helping you project... some what of a double edged sword of a technique.
>>42447438>They are the same thing.You're in capable of telling the difference more like.In a lucid dream you are able to change the essence and form of something at will, in a projection the essence is unchanging reducing the variety of forms.Your the guy who doesn't believe a essence can exsist before its rigarious documentation right? The cynic?
