The Gnostics are backward because they still cling to Abrahamic beliefs and want to believe that Yahweh is the creator of the universe.
>>42443784“I am” created the universe God created everything through fractionalizing himself
>>42443784Yahweh didn't create the universe. He just presently rules this dump we call earth
>>42443856Yahwe does not exist the fact you believes it exis made you à retard judaism is athéisme none of their entities exist and you are a retard to believe that they exist
>>42443784Sethians called the creator of the universe Yaldabaoth, not Yahweh, with Yahweh being demoted to a lower status. Gnostics usually brought a polytheistic interpretation to the Old Testament where different parts were from different gods, and the oldest Gnostics like Simonians may have treated Greek religion and writings in a similar manner, as a collection of stories involving the archons which was also full of hidden messages for those with eyes to see (and maybe a little schizophrenia).
>>42443784gnosticism is a christian heresy. if it divorced itself from christianity it would just be an eastern religion, probably resembling zoroastrianism or perhaps zurvanism
>>42443784I don't equate Gnosticism with christianity or the Abrahamic slop religions whatsoever. That's just the garb they had to drape it in for it to be even remotely accepted at the time in the west.
>>42443910The embodiment of wisdom is arrogant and stupid enough to try to comprehend chaos and becomes a cosmic incompetent single mother gnosticism is slop
>>42443910re interpreting Christ and the crucifixion is a core part of gnosticism, read a book
>>42443951they all have to be dressed up for their timesthe truth is too simple to be comprehend for most people. we have to make it needlessly complicated
>>42443963it's not part of "being dressed up"sophia is supposed to be the hidden counterpart of Christ as messiah and the true embodiment of wisdom from the OT. gnosticism is a flavor of christianity full stop.
>>42443980What might be the oldest form of the Sophia myth, in Simonianism, doesn't actually use the name Sophia but Ennoia, thought, and she may have also been identified with the Greek goddess Athena (primarily associated with wisdom) who was born from Zeus' head.
>>42443784Gnosticism causes schizophrenia, the God of the Bible is the one true God and bitching about it won't make him not exist, you either believe he sent his son to die as a way for communion with him and live in eternal bliss or perish in your sins being tormented for eternity by demons taunting you for being foolish and not excepting God's gift through his son Jesus Christ. No way around it, choose what side of pascals wager you want to be on, victory in Christ or death for unbelief
>>42443784Gnosticism is older than christianism or even abrahamic religions, there are many branches and of course the abrahamic ones are abrahamic duh.
its true, just another feather in the hat of psychological cuckoldry. Time to go beyond their frameworks. We will move beyond their semantic bindings.
>>42443796I AM the lord thy God. Thou shalt have no others before me. I AM that which I AM
>>42444880lol lake of fire and eternal nothingness sounds better than being in heaven with megachrist karens
>>42444939wrong>>42444389then it's not gnosticism. they specifically claim that Christ's body was an illusion and His true form is part of the unblemished light
>>42445100>they specifically claim that Christ's body was an illusionI'm not sure how that's related to what I said, but it's actually questionable whether anyone taught that. Richard Carrier argues that most likely no one did, though a couple people like Marcion (often not counted as Gnostic) and Basilides were falsely accused of it. https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/24006(Carrier also likes to say Gnosticism wasn't a real thing, but what he means in that case is that the beliefs called "gnostic" were so evenly mixed into the early Christian sects that you can't separate "Gnosticism" out as a clear counter-tradition, an idea which I personally am not convinced of, though I agree with him about docetism.)
>>42443886That would be the heresy of Mani. Manichaeism. Much as Gnosticism seems to oppose the Platonic Demiurgos as much as the Abrahamic Monotheism. There is also the matter of the cult/sect of Atum being monotheistic to consider in roots alongside how Mithraism directly influences by Abraxas or the lion serpent associated to Ahriman.
>>42443882>little schizophreniai miss my schizo
>>42443784He may be the creator of this lame ass universe, but there are other universes out there. Ours is not the only one. We can't be the only universe out there. If we are then fuck it. We have the power to create universes, not as you may expect, but we do created universes, books, stories, music, video games, whole universes.
>>42443879What does exist then?
Why>>42446749 you cling to the idea that Yahweh exists and is the creator, deep down you can't abandon Abrahamism, Gnostic cuckoo
alot of regilions give azazel the volcano daemon too much powerbecause you pray to it.ye sit has hard limits but humans will never break them
>>42443784Fact Tesla Marconi hertz nat soc germent and fascist Italy all the real sciences and engineers in appropriate gaytheist synagogue shit fact Zoroaster was a catholic you are in the catholic universe
>>42443910False analysis stupid fuck not educated mongrel origen was right
>>42444389Wrong inbred Fatima zeitoun assirut warraq nasa hoaxsters and fake moon rocks uked you stupid jeets passive infared
>>42444939No it's not the globe container bot is father son holy ghost and catholic religious n first father all reason gnosticis is demons trick against it you dumb bitch get off the board
>>42445047British united n of fascist Catholics were really right
>>42443784Oswald mosley debunked you subhuman
>>42443951Wrong satanic inbred wrong faggot zeit assirut warraq god created hd own moththpassive active infrared radiol electricity that's flat earth Roman catholic not you etc every real.sciemxel
>>42445060Gatheistnsysgigr f Satan sub subhuman uselesss
>>42443784Biblical mythology is "Conceptually Generated mythological texts"; meant to be read as a type of "Code-languague" rather than as "Literal historical events thousands of years ago". The most relevant decyphering key is realizing that 'The Garden of Eden' is still going on here and now; and things such as The Floods haven't happened yet. Cataclysmic events all over biblical myth tend to correlate to "the same general Cataclysm; the Apocalypse in Revelations". The Revelations Apocalypse is "The End of Tutorial Level Campaign ("Eden"); Kingdom Come". There's "Ark-projects to find, and prepare for".
>>42447526>christcuck>get off the boardNo you, retard.
>>42443784>they still cling to Abrahamic beliefs and want to believe that Yahweh is the creator of the universe.lol no, the idea of the demiurge predates Abrahamic religions.It's the Abrahamic religions that encountered their architect entity and got bamboozled into worshiping the false god.The Gnostics not only knew better, they recognized that Jesus also knew better. That's where the intersection is.
>>42448284Absolutely horrible post. Brahma is the demiurge and the Gnostics are obsessed with Yahweh. You Gnostic cucks have Yahweh obsession syndrome.
>>424437841) historic christian "gnosticism" and the broader "gnostic worldview" of modern times are not one and the same, there is no direct lineage, continuity or tradition between the two2) only some modern self-avowed "gnostics" operate within abrahamic mythology3) multiple "gnostic"-like teachings and sects exist(ed) within other cultures and religions: manichaeism, sant mat, ahmadiiya, certain types of sufism, certain taoist notions, even kastaneda's writings qualify lol; buddhism and jainism also could be called "soft gnosticism" in many waysThe core of "gnostic worldview" is that spirit>body and that this world is a prison for said spirit (and/or a deep illusion) that one's spirit ultimately needs to overcome/escape from. This or that mythology on top of that is just dressing.
>>42448324>You Gnostic cucks have Yahweh obsession syndrome.Nah, you're just projecting. Some of us don't really hate the architect. It is what it is, man. The point is that OP is objectively wrong.
imagine not being able to achieve gnosis and wasting your life worshipping a lie
>>42450239There is no difference whatsoever between a Hilyc and an Endlighted One; both are drones lacking any individuality. If you were truly endlighted you will be part of à hivemind
>>42443856WHY DO I HAVE TO TAKE A SHIT AND JACK OFF?NO ONE IN THE CROWD EVER ONCE THOUGHT OF ASKING JESUS THAT QUESTION?IF HES THE SON OF GOD DOINg ALL THESE MIRACLES, WHY DID NOBODY THINK OF ASKING THESE TYPES OF QUESTIONS?IT'S NOT PERVERTED.
>>42443784>>42443784>believe that Yahweh is the creator of the universe.you skiped the part where the demiurge is sophias unwarted kid after she sliped and fell out of pelmora.
I think gnosticism has some of the truth, but is ridiculous how most gnostics think they are enlightened when they are falling for the easiest psyops ever, because they would rather stroke their ego rather than accept they've been deceived.Gnosticisms- papiry randomly found like 60-80 years ago- potrays the serpent as good ( huge red flag)- full of modern morality ( guys pls trust women, the gender that is so retarded they would let rapist enter their homes are the enlightened ones, pls trust me bro)- Some end up worshipping lucifer.Like bruh
>>42452381so whats the way nigga? i want to exit to pleroma my guy. i want to dedicate my life to this. if i get reincarnated ill just get fucked by life again.
>>42452381I do find it interesting that they portray Sophia as good, despite Sophia quite literally being the reason everything is as bad as it is for everyone
>>42452742but she made jesus to help us come back. shes like parents who are failing but still try to work with what they have for a better future
>>42443784Ignore frogposters. Only people whoa re clamped vaccinated and circumcised frogpost like this.---> FACT.
God did not create the universe. God is the mascot of an isolationist dictatorship who themselves "evolved", probably much in the same way we did.They did not create us from nothing, they cobbled us together from spare parts lying around. Many of us do not belong here, they slaughtered everyone we knew, took our memory of it, and dropped us here into these primitive bodies.
