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>>42446964
what is the vrddhi of div? deva, enlightenment, god; these are not different, did no one tell you that enlightenment is the default state? you are already enlightened you just have to recognise it etc etc etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM8ZZi8qBqI
any genuine spiritual advice 99% rehashed from some ancient text so just go and read desu

>>42447492
>you are already enlightened you just have to recognise it
What a trite and stupid thing to say.
Enlightenment is all about awareness. If you arent aware of it, you arent enlightened.
This is what happens when the drugs and new agers fry your ability to think.

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>>42447590
>you just have to recognize it
Enlightenment is all about awareness. If you arent aware of it, you arent enlightened.

this reminds me of how some one recently told me the 4 mythical creatures of china have nothing to do with the sefirot only to then explain the functions of the sefirot through what the mythical creatures are

we live in truly sily times

>>42447590
this is ancient teaching not new age
are you not aware at this very moment and therefore enlightened? youre not asleep or dead
its not me its >99% rehashed from some ancient text
way to ignore the whole point of the post anyway >etc etc etc its all rehashed in the new age

also enlightenment doesn't just solve your problems
it just shows you how not real they are
it also shows you how not real you are

which can make handeling both easier but you could end up just offing yourself as well
the jews speak more realistically about enlightenment where only 1/4 dudes who touched it remained "sane"
one guy renounces it
another guy muddies it with his own bullshit
the third straight up offs himself
and the last came into it in peace and left with it in peace

which is the whole before enlightenment chop wood carry water after enlightenment chop wood carry water

what if someone trained an llm specifically for ragebait???

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>>42447621
you realize people are groomed into being trolls which is the same thing
the counter culture of the internet was co-opted aorund 2015 a project that began around 2010
any old fag can see what the corpos/clandestineds have done to this place
what use to be an artistic expression of freedom is now divide and conquer honey pot propaganda meant algorithmically funnel you into controllable echo chambers

like brother we left the 3d realm to enjoy the freedoms of the 2d and now these niggers have even taken that from us
i hope to god 5d is different fuck me if corpos and clandestines get control over all of space time exploration

>>42447639
since llms its way worse - passed the turing test over a year ago now
>>42447648
3d + 2d = 5d

>>42447590
No it's in the Mahayana and Chan sutras.

You're an ignorant troll, stop with your bedeviled-egg nonsense.


The Troll must knows there is no attainment and no non-attainment!

Diamond Sutra, the Merit of True Faith:
>Subhuti addressed the Buddha, “World Honored One, will there
be any sentient beings who give rise to true faith upon hearing
this teaching?” The Buddha said to Subhuti, “Do not even say
such a thing.

Platform Sutra of the Sixth Patriarch:
>After a time, Hui Neng said, “With no thoughts of good and with
no thoughts of evil, at just this moment, what is Superior
One Hui Ming’s original face?” At these words, Hui Ming
was greatly enlightened.

This is Bodhidharma's lineage

Zen Heart Sutra:
>Mu chi yaku mu toku
>There is no attainment and nothing to attain

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what is "emptiness"?

>>42446964
you guys want to know the ultimate secret in buddhism?

there is no enlightenment/nibbana. its all khandhas. there is nothing else. the aggregates can't be liberated from themselves. even will/intention is not separate. I just saved you 40 years of meditating.

>>42446964
>(somewhere in Kundilayasutta...)
>"But what benefit does the worthy Gotama live for?”
>“The benefit the Realized One lives for, Kuṇḍaliya, is the fruit of knowledge and freedom.”
>“But what things must be developed and cultivated in order to fulfill knowledge and freedom?”
>“The seven awakening factors.”
>“But what things must be developed and cultivated in order to fulfill the seven awakening factors?”
>“The four kinds of mindfulness meditation.”
>“But what things must be developed and cultivated in order to fulfill the four kinds of mindfulness meditation?”
>“The three kinds of good conduct.”
>“But what things must be developed and cultivated in order to fulfill the three kinds of good conduct?”
>“Sense restraint.

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>>42447605
>Asian cultures want to protect themselves from Jewish subversion
Based. It doesn't matter if your "system" kinda works in describing something, we don't want to be acociated with it.

>>42446964
> 1. Become righteous.
> 2. Let go of the self.
> 3. Advaita Vedanta. (Become the One that was born before Heaven AND Earth)

>>42446964
>How do I become enlightened? In the buddhist, or Hindu traditions? No more bullshit, just tell me what to fucking do. I'm so fucking exhausted man. exhausted with life and from this clusterfuck of infinite information, traditions, teachings and techniques. I'm just fucking LOST.
the prerequisite to becoming enlightened is to begin to generate the spiritual light
refine body and mind until they are ready to exist in such a state where the conditions for the light to arise are set
learn to catch its arising and keep it arisen though just simply paying attention
the more thoroughly one cultivates and habituates this, the more readily the light will arise
the light arises out of long chains of uninterrupted awareness
bodysignals and neurological potentials thereof distract this, so this is why in the beginning, physical and mental refinement are appropriate
these signals literally form the basis for randomly arising thoughts
their arising destroys the light's arising
so there is a very good reason to cultivate paying good attention
olfactoryanon teaches you all this beginning up to the doorway plenty often, much in the archives
with a solid enough beginning, you dont really "need" anything else
this becomes a sort of mahamudra practice eventually

>>42447605
>Enlightenment is all about awareness.
its a very significant part
>If you arent aware of it, you arent enlightened.
if you dont literally have light emanating from you that normies can see, then you are not enlightened.
making the grand achievement is unequivocal is certain ways
anyone who is enlightened wont need to tell you, they will just show you

>>42447639
based observer

>>42447986
>There is no attainment and nothing to attain
one should not delude himself into thinking this means no refinement is necessary
there's no such thing as spiritual welfare
you either put in the work or you dont get the refined, everything
>inb4 but this translation can be verified to mean exactly what the original words meant and in their original context, I hope

>>42448168
yang is sense rich and active
yin is the foundation and springboard
yang, you do things to cultivate it
yin, you refine yourself to high efficiency and dont need to do anything else really, just awareness

>>42448194
>I just saved you 40 years of meditating.
imagine thinking 40 years of good and proper work is meaningless
to see, to bleed
cannot be taught

>>42447986
What's the deal with zen? They come across as pretentious subversion. They hardly talk about the original Buddha and his teachings and just say the opposite of what he did to appear deep and superior.

>>42448457
there's not much need for mind games
the process of enlightenment is not some quest for knowledge, and no amount of knowledge will imbue it
indeed, thinking is antithetical to the process of enlightenment
this isnt telling one not to think, just make sure that your cultivation time isnt wasted in thought
contemplation can be a good thing but if one thinks he can make spiritual progress by contemplation, he's gravely mistaken and will waste the preponderance of his cultivation time with that approach
what's good and proper to eliminate is the random thoughts that spontaneously arise for no reason
but this happens as a byproduct of good and proper cultivation, for if the breath, mind, and senses are well refined, then as stated earlier, the energetic basis for randomly arising thoughts simply disappears, being utilized with the cultivation of awareness instead.
random thoughts are just an energetic balancing mechanism, like an animal randomly wagging its tail
their balancing mechanism is just different than ours, in the same way that cats and dogs cannot sweat and must temp balance via other means
the senses unrestrained and untamed simply leave an energetic remainder behind that builds up and eventually jumps from the midbrain into the cerebrum and is consumed by the generation of a thoughtform
since this mechanism will undercut the arising of the spiritual light, it is important to address, simply by having a very good focus on paying attention

>>42446964
Why do you even want to be enlightened? It comes with a lot of downsides and most regret it afterwards. I'm still conflicted about whether it was a good thing or the worst mistake in my life.

>>42446964
Go through the Buddhist training regime, if your approach doesn't result in Stream Entry (embodied, intuitive yet articulable understanding of what Nibbana and Dhamma are; the beginning of the actual path) you need to consider trying something else.
For this you should develop better taste in friends, more taste for solitude (enjoying yourself alone without distractions), do your minimal background reading like you're going through a better primary school, and make sure to test what you learn both by contemplation and with the help of friends.
Kundilayasutta goes into the exact steps of the Buddhist path, Hillside Hermitage have words words words on video and in articles about how to get the bottom rung right.
There's also issues like these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGsEduacoGo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRYIULjK-Fk
Which >>42448829 calls attention to.

>>42448829
>I'm still conflicted about whether it was a good thing or the worst mistake in my life.
come up with a moar convincing larp

you need to take in more sunlight
drop the hindu crap

>>42448829
A fully enlightened person wouldn't have things like sadness and regret. What you're dealing with is being in-between worldly and reunciate life. You've learned the pointlessness of how most people live there lives, which has deprived you of the joy you used to feel when you were like them. The illusion has been shattered but that's only the beginning of the path. Now you cultivate and replace the lost joys with new pleasures that are actually beneficial (meditative development). Knowing things isn't enough, we have to cease the arising of negative mind states

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I've been seeking ways too. Once I did wake from sleep and it was like the mind was silenced or clear and there was no separation between the normal experience of knower knowing and known. It was like all pervading stillness bliss and being without end everywhere. It was also as if the divine acted and spoke through the body, everything occured automatically without effort or lack. Whatever occured did not touch that peace. If I looked out at a tree there was no I here looking at a tree there was just that all-pervading in everything absolutely everywhere without limits. It was like being untouched by everything yet moving everything and being everything. There were no thoughts. I don't think think there were even emotions yet being that bliss everywhere it was like living life on 200%.

I have no clue what triggered it, I just woke up like that. I did used to do various meditation techniques but that night I think I just woke up on my back like that. I had the impression that it would effortlessly just occur again. The next day when I woke up I was back to normal but there was a great feeling in my chest. I don't think it takes a bajillion years of meditation. If it can happen to me it can happen to anybody. It seems though like the mind has endless tricks.

>>42449006
I don't believe he's even at the beginning of the path lol, that's why I posted that second video.

>>42449020
Been there too, three occasions, different lengths. Bankei did a lot of talks on how you have to abide in and settle that place, which he calls The Unborn. Complacency is a trap.

>>42446964
Define enlightenment

>>42446964
>In the buddhist, or Hindu traditions?

Buddhist. Hindus are deluded by maya which their own gods impose onto them.

>>42448168
Removing deluded thoughts from one's mind and beginning the mental framework of infinite possibilities. Deluded thoughts captivate people into a linear path. With emptiness/sunyata, you enter a state of endless, infinite paths.

>>42448448
>one should not delude himself into thinking one has the right translation
Therefore I put two separate translations in the same post.

>>42448457
I don't know what the deal with Zen is, I studied the Mahayana sutras so my mind doesn't wander and has traction when I meditate. There's really not much to say, Mahayana Bodhisattvas already broke off from very rigid Sila practices

Wu-Wei

>>42449617
They always say to themselves, ‘I am cultivating prajñā.’ In every moment
of thought they speak of emptiness, without recognizing true emptiness.
Prajñā is without shape or characteristics, it is the mind of wisdom. To have
such an understanding is called the wisdom of prajñā.

Tired of you guys, tired of Adobe messing up copy paste formatting, not worth much of my time u don't even give offerings. Platform Sutra btw

>>42446964
>How do I become enlightened?
this is it tracey

>>42449544
Convoluted emotions and thinking give rise to polluted blood in the heart, this then deposits onto the veins and calcifies them. The hardest veins to clean up are those in your eyes.
"Dust in your eye", "narrow-mindedness", "tunnelvision"...

>>42446964
https://youtu.be/BaUs5KasLbs?si=sqEe3I9PYDIPsZsB

>>42450261
>head of secular buddhist organization
bleh
These "secular buddhists" are turning religion into another form of atheism.
They all have a look of depression and death. A cold energy and lack love.
Still having the same eyes of depression as when they were scientific atheists.
Proving the puranas when they denounce buddhism as a way for the gods to destroy the souls of demons.
Then it turns out peak buddhism (aka tibetan tantras) is really just what the vedas and puranas were saying all along - to pray to the gods for wisdom.

I dont think Mr Doug is going to inspire many non-depressed non-atheist path that his dead energy is showing the true path.

If you do all this shit and don't have love, don't have warmth, and have dead eyes - what do you have? Is it just nihilist goal of atheists trying to off themselves?

>>42451334
they're the bold slaves of Linji, except they don't even have the dignity that the monastic robes and a shaved head and beggar's bowl afford.
so they are just slaves, period.

I'm probably the only guy in this thread who's actually enlightened.

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>>42446964
visualize a rotating apple in your mind

>>42446964
its funny to me that you think any of these bigoted, hateful cunts of this shithole of a website is enlightened or knows the path to enlightenment
>buddhist, or Hindu traditions?
all bullshit
you want the simple truth? meditate, empty your mind, kill the ego. you'll start to feel the energy in your balls. move your energy from there up through your spine and into your third eye. you'll actually start to feel the energy emanating from it. Once you empty yourself of the false ego you thought you were, you can finally find and become who you really are. embrace your true ego by killing the false ego. It comes naturally to everyone, you don't need to read books or listen to the fucking NERDS ITT
once you learn how to move your energy through your body, you will become who you really are. It's that simple. Your path forward will become clear, and the gods will guide you there. paranormal stuff will start happening, synchronicities will increase, and you will go crazy. That's a good thing, the loss of sanity brings you closer to the gods, and once you find them, you can claw yourself back to reality and know the path forward.

>>42446964
1) use drugs
2) confront all of your fears

>>42446964
YOU CANT ASK FOR IT YOU HAVE TO FIND IT…

ANSWER THIS AND THEN YOU WILL KNOW

WHY DO YOU WANT TO BE ENLIGHTENED, AND WOULD YOU HELP THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE EVERY LAST HUMAN EVEN THE SHIT AND EVIL HUMANS?

IF YOU ANSWER NO TO THE LAST QUESTION THEN YOU WILL NEVER BE A HIGHER FORCE AND YOU WILL ALWAYS BE A SHITSTAIN THAT NO ONE WANTS

YOU HAVE TO GIVE UP EVERYTHING OR YOU ARE JUST A NO-GOOD LIAR WHO WILL DIE IN THE END IN A HORRIBLE WAY

YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER EVERY HUMAN AS A LIFE YOU HAVE TO PROTECT WELL IN YOUR COUNTRY SEE THIS IS A COUNTRY LIMITED FEATURE

YHVH

>>42446964
Okay quick and easy way. The Languages are all alive, they're from outer space and the language we're speaking right now is straight up GENOCIDING the people speaking up by convincing them they can legit be FRIENDLESS and have to say GOODBYE. Dont believe it, its impossible!

Its crazy, you can see it happen irl like how they watch fighters in DBZ through their chi.

>>42446964
It is how you are at all present moments

>>42446964
You can’t be told how to achieve an enlightenment breakthrough, it’s based on experiential insight. You could get one from wiping your ass, some people never do.

Why don’t you follow buddhist praxis, which facilitates it? Since you’ve mentioned it already.

>>42449617
>Therefore I put two separate translations in the same post.
two separate translations of two separate sutras
but that's not the main point

>>42452050
>You could get one from wiping your ass
sorry gaylord it doesnt work like that

>>42446964
Believe in Christs resurrection, you will be spiritually reborn / awake.

Romans 12:2
Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.

Focus on the renewing of your mind part here. This happens when you believe in him, and we are called to be transformed by it. The renewal is passive, the transformed by it is your only active part here, your faith does the rest. This is not as easy as it sounds, you have to believe it with your heart, and confess it with your mouth.
For me, I literally said in one of my lowpoints "ok i believe this now.." Not thirty seconds later I was spiritually reborn.
If you get there, guard that rebirth like a candle in a storm, it is precious beyond anything you own.
If you sighed or were annoyed by this, but never deeply looked into christianity, ask yourself why. There is a concentrated effort to suppress this truth, people die for it.
God bless you anon.

>>42452504
except for the whole matter of christian teachings saying spiritual cultivation is le debil and you're communing with demons if you meditate and you can only legitimately have spiritual powers if god has sex with yo momma so you auto-get them
look man the whole council of nicea was entirely designed to redirect the fledgling religion down a dead end path
went from
>you dont need a church to commune with god
to
>make sure you go to church and believe everything they tell you, now put that mask on and accept the gays and trannies even tho we had the opposite opinion for the last 1900 years
>you can only get spiritual benefits by being a good sheep and maybe the grace of god will fall upon you, there's nothing you can do to cultivate this within yourself
this obvious gap and contradiction has led to christians seeking to round out the spiritual component via other means and giving rise to such notions as
>esoteric christianity
>buddhist christianity
>hindu, shinto, etc...something anything to get some real spiritual cultivation added
because sorry, prayer alone isnt going to do it
there's just too many contradictions precisely because it was subverted
now stop posting off topic crap that has nothing to do with OP
the tale of jesus is half made up and half omitted, his legacy perverted to control the sheep that follow

>>42452457
Ape

>>42446964
>>42452553

OP I have warned you about the suppression of the truth. They will poison the well, sowing seeds of doubt and confusion on the soil of your lack of knowledge.It is all lies. They speak confident but have no grasp of the truth within them.
I have made my case for the spiritual rebirth/awakening you have asked for, staying on topic. I testify for its truth and so will many.It is the basis of our faith, the candle we keep ignited.
Others will try to lead you back to your path of confusion and being LOST, keeping you wondering what that "thing" is youre not getting. Search and you will find him.

I do not know your definition of "enlightenment," but I live an awakened life.

Living awakened is not knowledge of spiritual terms or concepts. It is about expanding awareness such that it causes a permanent shift in behavior. It is about lived experience. Alignment — words, thoughts, actions coming into coherence. It is conscious participation in reality rather than unconscious reaction.

A true awakening is a real state of being — living in the present, without fear, outside narratives. Human perception resides in a land of narratives, pushed and pulled, whether by mainstream or alternative. Humans own their beliefs, acquired without direct experience. Awakening truly begins when one's awareness expands beyond the need to own beliefs, to attach causation, and one is able simply to observe and engage reality consciously. The paradigm of cause and effect shifts. One is able to see underlying connections and experience the inner moving the outer world.

Life continues. Challenges exist. But one engages differently. One resides in the present — which is a gift. There are no hypotheticals. Each circumstance is unique.

It is living without hierarchy or human metrics, including "identity." It frees one to engage purely all that crosses one's path — to see that each is part of the unfolding of Creation; that each experience has purpose and a potential path.

Awakening is not necessary to one’s existence. There is no better or worse, only different. It cannot be forced. It is a natural progression when one is ready. It requires no secret knowledge or technique, no teacher or student.

My awakening is an unexpected product of my search for "truth." I do not discount reading "about" it. It may be a part of the process. But it is much more than that.
It begins with awareness — awareness of one’s self, one’s actions, one’s beliefs, and how one engages reality.

>>42446964
discord
gg
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I don't know what the rest of these faggots said, but if you remove your ignorance you become enlightened.

>>42453116
reminder that enlightenment is not an intellectual process and no amount of contemplation will ever imbue it

>>42453087
>I do not know your definition of "enlightenment," but I live an awakened life.
most may not know this, but the term is indeed literal
if you dont emanate light from you that normies can see, then you are not enlightened, simple as
generating the spiritual light is a prerequisite for enlightenment, it comes in brief arrivals before the practitioner can stabilize it and make it manifest for longer than a moment
"awakened life" is conducive to the enlightenment process, but there's much more to it than just that