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Why did that son of a bitch God force Jesus to pay for his crimes with his suffering despite it being him who committed those crimes in the first place? Maybe Jesus never chose to be the man who pay for God's jackassery? God creates and never asks himself if he should what suffering he'll create. God creates but never asks if creating such suffering is good for anything. What an asshole. Why do you worship this entity? He has built your cages and you all accept it and take it like a bitch. Did anyone ever think that maybe Jesus doesn't want to be Jesus and he just wants to be free to follow his own story and script?
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>>42447980
From the Christian perspective, God is Jesus you dumb asshole. God is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Or maybe this is bait.
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>>42448005
Yeah I know but they are both separate and one and the same at the same time. It's complicated as God in his human form must lose his memories of his previous existence to play the new role he was given to a devoted degree but doesn't that mean that Jesus shouldn't suffer for God's bullshit crimes anymore as they become two separate entities and he loses his memories? God still has to run the universe and communicate with other beings, but I guess he can do both at the same time? God became Jesus but he stopped being God so why must he suffer for God's rules that he broke? He is no longer God so he therefor he shouldn't suffer for God's creations as he is a new and freeman? Why must Jesus take on God's responsibility? Jesus definitely didn't remember being God after he incarnated himself into the physical realm. I guess it would make more sense if Jesus came back in a new incarnation in his 2nd return as told us the damn answer but why should he suffer a second time when it's "god" who put that bullshit responiblity on him? Maybe Jesus wants to be free the 2nd time around? Doesn't Jesus have freewill? Does Jesus remember being God? Or is he supposed to forget? Honestly fuck this shit. He shouldn't pay this time.
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I would never want to be God.
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God is a retarded tranny, he creates stuff and then destroys that stuff because muh creations are mine I can do whatever I want
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>>42448371
God is a pedophile and what he did to humanity would be like if you gave your children to a known child molester for taking a cookie out of the cookie jar
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>>42448360
This. Trust me, you don't. The desire to be God is the true root of all suffering. You think you want the power and knowledge but it's fucking boring except for the ability to create things which is the only cool thing about it. Everyone blames you for their problems instead of taking reasonability. Everyone asks for things without working for it or putting the action behind it. People fear you and some only love you out of fear. You know everything about everything so there isn't much mystery to existence. You have so much reasonability trying to keep order in the universe and trying to keep demons from fucking the timeline too much. It's pain. You can't blame Jesus for wanting to be incarnated as a human because Godhood isn't all it's cracked up to be and it's a nice escape.
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>>42447980
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>>42449510
The worst part is that there's no escape.
The Bible says that God will intervene when the state of the world is as chaotic as in the days of Noah.
Guess there is a lot of suffering until the next reset.
Another point is that there is evidence of multiple cataclysms that destroyed several great and advanced civilizations. Perhaps humans tried to make things more comfortable and fair and less displeasing, but it seems that God didn't like that and unleashed a cataclysms anyway... like "How dare you to not suffer! How dare you not be as filthy as a pig?".
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>>42447980
Because Jesus is an expression of the scapegoat ritual
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>>42447980
This feels jewish
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>>42451110
What part? What about it feels jewish?
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>>42451110
Jews aren't allowed to talk like that
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>>42451110
This is similar in nature to the jewish curse phrase "יהוה ארר יהוה" which means something along the lines of "god damned god". If a jew even sees that phrase written, they're supposed to rip their shirt off in rage.
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These are just myths you don't have to take it literally
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>>42447980
>What an asshole.
That's what He said.
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>>42447980
This brings to mind my favorite part of the Bible/Jesus arc. The night he is arrested, Jesus begs God to spare him from his crucifixion fate. Having now taken the form of a mortal man, his human emotions made him feel genuine fear and dread at the last minute knowing he would soon be beaten to a bloody pulp and hung out to dry like a piece of meat nailed to a cross. Not sure about the historical accuracy of the next part, but in the Passion of the Christ film when Jesus is begging God to change his destiny he is kneeling and looking up at the moon; and in the same moment Jesus finishes his last sentence he sees the clouds move which end up completely covering and hiding the moon from sight, alluding to God blatantly rejecting his request and giving him the "you're on your own kid :)". This entire sequence is known as the "night in the garden of Gethsemane". Showing that Christ at one point felt literal fear, regret and begged God to change to spare him from crucifixion was approved to be included in the Bible by the Catholic church even though it showed Christ succumbing to human weaknesses and not fully accepting of the sacrifice he was to undertake. You would imagine this would not be something the Church would want to be taught. I'm sure way back in the day, there were religious leaders who probably rejected such a concept that Jesus would beg God to spare him from crucifixion out of fear.
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>>42447980
it had to happen this way, or else nobody would believe god is real.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MPHyR92MQic&ra=m



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