Where do you see yourself?
I see myself beyond the sidelines eating popcorn watching you guys getting baited by a retarded chart that glows.
>>42452745Yeah, it's retarded because...why again?And it glows...why? Because it's about faith?And it's a bait that lures you into...posting your opinion?I see.Maybe talk to your lawyer before replying. Could be a trap, u know.
>>42452724Buddhism is not atheistic, ya nob.
>>42452800This. Buddha is treated like a God in Buddhism. There are tons of prayers, shrines and mantra made to worship him. Even though he's allegedly supposed to have left the circle of reincarnation.
>>42452800>>42452811It doesn't take much time to find out that buddhism is a non-theistic religion. There is no God who created the universe, no omniotent force that rules and judges, and no divine plan for humanity.It's correct to say that buddhism isn't atheistic, because deities like Bodhisattvas, Dharmapalas and Devas exist in buddhism. But God and "gods" are not the same, in a theological sense.>Buddha is treated like a God in BuddhismNo. The buddha was a human who reached perfection. He is not a creator, ruler or judge of the world.
>>42452724I believe that the world is Good, and there is a creator, but am not Christian. Christianity does not teach that the world is good. It teaches that the world is fallen and all men are innately sinful.
>>42452724Halfway between christian and gnostic>>42452800By Western standards it is. Even the ancient Greeks were more theist and their religion was a larp that everyone knew was a larp. Even the Japanese are more theistic in a western sense despite having a weird combination of no religion at all and grandfathered in animism/spirit worship
>>42452941>Christianity does not teach that the world is good.Sure it does. The world/creation itself is absolutely good. Christians have to believe this. God can only be as good as his creation is, so if God is 100% good, his creation also has to be 100% good.
>>42452724Great Scott who makes these dogshit graphs"What do you want to be when you grow up, a fur trapper or a politician?"
Some clarifications:Christianity:Origin of the world: God created it.Ruler of the world: God.Spiritual goal for humans: be accepted into heaven by God.Gnosticism:Origin of the world: the Demiurge created it.Ruler of the world: the Demiurge.Spiritual goal for humans: escape the Demiurge and reach the Pleroma.Taoism:Origin of the world: everything manifests from the Tao.Ruler of the world: No ruler. The Tao is a cosmic law and principle of balance and order. Spiritual goal for humans: to be in accordance with the Tao and live in harmony.Buddhism:Origin of the world: None, Samsara is not created and exists since beginningless time.Ruler of the world: Traditional buddhists texts describe Mara as a deity or demon with power over the material world, but he has no ultimate power over karma and the cycle of rebirth. Also Mara can be seen as a symbol for the mental confusion that keeps people away from spiritual awakening. Mara is understood as an opposing force to the Buddha.Spiritual goal for humans: be liberated from Samsara through awakening/enlightenment.
>>42452724NoneI think the world is neutral, but the forces in it are notAnd by forced i don't mean ONLY material ones.
>>42453003In case no one told you: you don't have to reply if you have nothing meaningful to contribute. Just not posting is a valid option.
>>42452724>The World is Me>God
>>42452724I'm a white Hindu convert.
>>42452724discordgg/7JdtkZ8aN
>>42452724I see myself being tortured without human rights by cowards in a Jewish slave colony
>>42452724Print your graph on soluble plastic Melt it into acetone It dissolves awayThere i am
>>42453055Do you eat poop?
>>424527241, the world has good things like cats, dogs, nature, etc but it isn't good according to the BibleSince coming to Christ, it was revealed by God that i've had 3 enemies who've been violently plotting against me since the day I was born. The flesh, the world and satan, if you weren't raised in a Christian household, God let's you be broken down by those 3 until you've had enough and are ready to surrender to him as a way out against the pressure piled on you. The prodigal/riotous son parable is a good example of this
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>>42453008>Ruler of the world: God.If that were true we wouldn't have sodomite pride month
>>42454985Kek you Buddhist larpers don't realize you're just doing atheist Hinduism. The buddhists are wrong, it's atheist babbys first religion, before he is ready to seek the truth about consciousness.
>>42452724Hyperposition if these are the only options
>>42452724I believe in God, I just think they have questionable motives.
>>42452724>>42455414..like for instance. Why did God make us take a shit and jack off? Hm?People always say "You don't know shit" but if you knew all the shit I went through, you'd see it different.
>>42452724Having Taoism assign morality to the state of nature misunderstands Taoism. The entire point is that the universe is amoral (neither good nor bad), and it is Human judgement which makes it seem one way or the other. This is important, because otherwise it isn't a counterargument/companion to Buddhism.
>>42452755The left side is a false dichotomy that the world is either in a pure state 1 or pure state 2, instead of the million shades of grey that "the world" can be in.Your mendelson plot is a zero sum game and attempts to condense reality into a form that distills out base ingredients.
>>42452835theistic just means a belief in god(s), it doesnt need to be a supreme god or a monotheistic one. You are changing the definition of words to suit your bullshit chart, which is way you and your thread are getting shit on.
>>42455707Nta but I've argued the Buddhist devas shouldn't be thought of as gods before, and my reasoning is that if you want to count the devas as gods, then space aliens who are smarter than us should also count as gods, but most people wouldn't count aliens as gods or say that believing there could be smart aliens out there would make you a theist, so the devas in Buddhism shouldn't be counted as gods either.
>>42455813Admittedly wherever Buddhism syncretized with local theistic religion, its devas got a lot more goddish with people worshipping them and such, and Buddhas/Bodhisattvasalso came to fill more deity-like roles.
In my mind there's a huge gap between believing in the existence of beings who are above humans in various ways but are still fundamentally like us in the sense of being limited, subject to death, etc. and believing that there's a unified all-powerful, all-knowing intelligence prior to and responsible for the entire universe.
>>42452724except Christianity recognizes the world is ruled by satan.dipshit
>>42455378So what you're saying is that you do eat it?What kind?
>>42452724taoism basically, yeah
What if I know I am godAt least the part of him that's good and needs to ascend
>>42454442:/
>>42453055I'm leaning in the same direction these days.
>>42456584What kind of snakes do you dance with while speaking in tongues?
>>42452965The creation in the bible isn't objective but subjective, that why the Ego / Egoic self / Man must be sacrified, because this is the thing that corrupt the world. (The world corrupted by Demons, but those Demons live inside the Man.)
I believe in occultism.Gods.The world is very good.
>>42452724>The Problem of EvilSt. Augustine was somewhat obsessed with problem of evil, and his written works and philosophy constitute the basis of the modern catholic dogma regarding it. I highly recommend reading picrel if you care at all about the problem of evil, he spends significant portions of the book explaining and clarifying the church’s position on it. St. Augustine struggled with the problem of evil a lot during his youth. His own misunderstanding of the catholic doctrine lead him into a heretical cult called Manicheasim. Also he fucked a lot of broads and struggled with not doing that. It’s also just a great book. It’s one of, if not the very first, autobiographies ever written in human history that has survived to the present day. Also it’s a very easy read and not at all dry or boring.
>>42452724Taoism. You will float in the river when you stop trying to swim actively.
3 but the world is bad because most people in it are fucking faggots hail satan
>>42452724I bit my tongue off so none of this matters to me. Physical injuries put a lot of this meaningless shit into perspective. All you need is something physical to fuck you up and change your life to attain this kind of enlightenment. You're one injury away from not caring about any of this shit.
>>42458908You can still have a metaphysical opinion.
>>42452724I actually combine taoism, buddhism and gnosticism (various types of it).All of them have solid puzzles to the whole picture imo.
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>>42459188kek'd and check'dThere is nothing "schizo" per se about it though.Taoism offers good insights into energy cultivation, and if you dig deep enough into, you'll find that it's not all as it seems. Hint: when Manichaeism (basically a zoroastrian version of gnosticism) came to ancient China, it was registered as a taoist sect and no one disputed it.Buddhism provides good psychology and methodology on how to reduce your personal suffering in this world, increase clarity of mind and let go of attachments. Also some yogic practices that work well in tandem with Taoist gymnastics. Certain branches of Buddhism (namely Chan/Zen) were a Taoist hybrid to begin with.Gnostic systems provide more or less correct metaphysics and "broader picture", inoculating you against falling for demiurgic shenanigans.But ofc even with all that one should still have an open mind for esoteric/occult knowledge from other sources.Avoid "package mentality". In politics and even more so in spiritual matters.
>>42452724I don't fit into these categories.I'm God. This world is bad. I created it. I'll discontinue it when I go back home. I'll remove it from the 'current plays' list of my game library up in my God Mansion.I'm the All Seeing Eye that they speak of. I'm the Big G. It's me.
>>42461061I got way better worlds in my games list upstairs.Worlds where the bodies are made for adventure. You can go fight a dragon without worrying about punctured lungs and stomach bile pouring out.This one was just a sort of 'horrorcore world' a contrasting thing.
>>42452724Or maybe the world has a mix of good and badOtherwise why not just stay a spirit
The world is not good or bad, it is.
>>42452724in a mirrorwhere do you?
>>42457967Snake poop?Really?Why?..and how?
>>42452724Don't you see how the ONLY salutory outcome in this quadrangle is Christianity? Jesus Christ was an "I love you" note written by God and passed to us by the Son. EVERYTHING else is man's attempts at transcendence via his own power and understanding. FOLLY... also, lonely. I have seen the Lord moving in my life. I am as certain as a person can be.1st century Roman Empire is the point in time He chose for incarnation?Please. OBVIOUSLY. It COULDN'T HAVE BEEN BETTER TIMING FOR THE MESSAGE. It's over. Jesus is the transcendental object at the end of time and the good vine. Better make sure you don't get pruned. You all know what it is anyway. Deep down you know this is all fuckery and you're blameworthy.
