tis fundamental nature of the religion is obedience despite all this stuff

>>42461101
I think so yes. Religion is for the same people Aristotle called natural slaves.

>>42461120
>be in slavery
>your own god appears and saves you
>but it's shitty

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follow your leader

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i have no argument against this

Because of my name. That alone makes that fallen angel particularly loathe me and cower even as he defies me.

I don't understand anything. If I go to hell its because God wants me there lol

I asked this question long ago... in context of this storyline.

It's complicated... I seek to understand it all to kill the creator.

>>42461362
So easy to defy when in total power, the one with fear and perhaps lacking in power, for now, that defies and is willing to pay an ultimate price for the Truth is the brave one.

>>42461076
What about the angels who stayed?

>>42461076
The fact the minority of angels took this prospective.

>follow Jesus
life is good

>follow Satan
life is bad

>but you don't UNDERSTAND
I don't need to understand, it's just turtles all the way down anyway.

Plot twist

God knew Lucifer and 1/3rd of the angels would rebel because he is himself those very same entities and was merely playing out the drama of creation

>>42461076
>be a kid
>big brother throws a tantrum because mom and dad gives you too much attention
>think that because he knows a lot more about life and parents that you do, he must be right to be mad
Ok and this is supposed to be convincing how?

>>42461076
>God is LE BAD
>Ok why?
>.....uhhhh let me into your body or something I HATE YOU I WANNA TORTURE YOU
Nah, they're spiritual niggers.

>>42461076
Convex vectors not a plane and bies aduy both male and female need to be online with all systems multiple animal system including no cannibalism you have to have sea lunch is eating shellfish dolphins eating their food sharks eating fish lions eating gazelle gazelle eating grass you need complex plant go be container and sea plant life with carnivores all at same time evolution is retarded debunked all fake plant life and paleontology hoaxes are exposed no burial vaults
All extinct animals and plants are hoaxes there are no burial vaults to preserve bones in this world you need burial vaults 10 20 years and 100 max bones are rendered absolute nothing you would not find anything all of these so called finds are faked judeo freemaosnry con artists ad academic fraud flat out t wrong the earth is not a ball it's impossible to be such demons poltiegiests ad ghosts are real space aka void is debunked there is vault seen rockets and missiles o not work in 10 17 torrs that's not est is there 3d graphics imaging proved the earth is flat station n in the 1960# half pipe concave vector convex vectors are not a plane break neck much to see horizon earth is not ball united great lodge of England

>>42461076
because we were also angels that stood in God's presence but obeyed
where do your think the spirits of mankind came from?

>>42461076
If you get a kick out of pulling someone's leg, why can't satan be pulling yours?

>>42462917
>normalfag shit
No, you are not convincing at all
Never talk about things you hsve no clue about at all

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>>42462867
>follow jesus
jews win
>follow islam
jews win
>follow judaism
jews win

are you seeing a pattern within the major religions??

>>42461076
I'm more like God than samael ever was.

>>42461076
One third of the angels were defective and retarded for some reason. They went from fucking humans to fucking animals or anything with a hole. You tell me.

>>42463138
Why is obedience good?

>>42463250
The Synagogues of Satan do not win in the Bible

>>42463410
If your cells disobey their programming, you get cancer.

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>>42461076
Why would I agree with those angels if the reason for them thinking that is literally me and you and all of us being created?
that makes no sense brother

>>42461076
God literally let those angels to go make their own realm of reality, with black jack and hookers. They just want to role play as rebels because they think its bad ass.

>>42463374
It is interesting to see such defects in what is supposed to be holy workers of God that stay in his realm.

>>42463528
so the angels are... LARPING?!?!?

>>42461076
>because i do, and i understand why they didn't and as such don't care about their opinion.

>>42462881
Really wouldn't Lucifer and those angels know that they are playing a role in God's plan? What's the point in rebelling if you're supposed to do that? Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose?

>>42463492
So why do they do what they do if they're scripted to lose?

>>42463502
Cells are not conscious agents and do not make decisions. God invented cancer

>>42461640
He is brave. No doubt it. Who the fuck here is willing to challenge the powers that be? Who here between us has the guts to challenge the earthly powers? Satan is so much more! He challenged God! I mean, that takes guts. It signals that whatever was happening, it got to a point that this angel prefered to challenge the most powerful being in existence because of how bad things were. It's like when Lutero protested the catholic church and he was demonized by that. The same way Satan is also demonized by God. But God is the one who does all the killings. Let me ask you, people say that Satan wants people to sacrifice children to him, but God has killed more babies than anyone following Satan right now.

>>42461076
That never happened. The "primordial fall" is medieval and Renaissance fanfic; according to the Bible Satan was in Heaven acting as the Accuser/Adversary until his whole logic was exposed as a lie at the Resurrection and he was cast out, in Revelation 12. "I saw Satan fall like lightning" is prophetic perfect tense; the gospel of John repeatedly says that the "ruler of this world" is *about to be* cast out lead up ti Jesus' death and resurrection.

>>42463842
They don’t know. All beings expect God have a veil of amnesia to varying degrees.

>>42463847
They don't believe Jesus was the Messiah so they are blinded by pride, the devil is going to pretend to be their messiah in the tribulation.

>>42463991
You don't know that. Also God didn't create cancer, humans did. Everything God created was good, death entered into the world when Adam sinned.

>>42464325
>victim blaming
And i don't remember consenting to be created or be part of this shit existence

>>42464310
>They don't believe Jesus was the Messiah so they are blinded by pride, the devil is going to pretend to be their messiah in the tribulation.
Yes that would be the Luciferian Jesuit playbook. The Crowleyean Moonchild in the Aeon of Horus to rule over humanity (false savior.)
There's two people it could be: William V of Wales or Donald Trump.

>>42464334
Well what are you gonna do about it? Be butt hurt for all eternity or seek salvation?

>>42464358
Jesus is a man-made creation and mythological sun god.

>>42463528
>It is interesting to see such defects in what is supposed to be holy workers of God that stay in his realm.
Actually I misspoke, its not verified that 1/3 angels fell. In the book of Enoch there were only a dozen of them.

>>42464363
So you're choosing hell? Bad choice

>>42464325
>death entered into the world when Adam sinned.
Death happened when "humanity" became a concept and we were genetically downgraded. Mu was a matriarchy where humans had an etheric light body (feminine energy of Venus, women seeing themselves as superior to men). Eventually their bodies split in different sexes (Eve leaving the mythical Garden of Eden, self created god Atum=Adam). After genetic hybridization they lost the ability of self-impregnation (fall of Eve) and needed the other sex to procreate through the biological process of DNA (containing phosphor) mixing.
In Atlantis, the cold blooded Draco-Orion hybrid race started genetically engineering a slave race (a DNA downgrade and manipulation through the pineal gland) created genetic experiments (anthropomorphic beings) as vessels for the fallen angels and put the Saturn cult in charge (Nephilim giants, known in Sumer as the Anunaki).
Also,
>Adam
written by the captive jews who copied Sumerian mythology about Adamu. Yod and HVH (Adam and Eve) represent the higher and lower realm separated by the Abyss, duality of red and blue, male and female. The snake Lucifer is the wave (flux of + and -, male and female). The Saturn cult (jews, christians, muslims) suppressed the feminine energy of earth through demonisation of women, Eve as Evil, worshiping demons like Lilith.
https://www.allreligionsareone.org/Adam.xhtml

>>42464399
What you're doing is using fear-mongering. I can prove to you these stories were ripped off.

>>42464404
When the resistance escalated the former Atlanteans turned to the practice of child sacrifice and even cannibalism, as in Kronos (Greek mythology,) or Saturn (Roman mythology,) devouring his own children. This was said to be a great sin and the reptilian overlords, the Anunnaki, intervened by stopping them. The fallen angel Samyaza and his group of fallen angels called Grigori (the Watchers) who had unleashed forbidden knowledge were punished and locked up, while the group with Lucifer remained free to roam the Earth. This is reflected in the Sumerian legend of Enki (Lucifer) who had sympathy for humans while Enlil was opposed to enlightenment of humans.

Meanwhile in Atlantis, some of the younger ‘demigods’ of the Cain-bloodlines, who are equally advanced as their overlords, but have some human DNA feel pity for the human race and rebel against their masters. They leave Atlantis/the Garden, and move east to the land of Nod. In Christianity, they are the biblical Wanderers, the wise men, the nomads who live in tents with camels.
According to legend they reach the old lands of Lemuria (now covered by the Pacific Ocean) where they start a new technological civilization of builders and sailors (symbolic for masonry and seafaring, as in Admiralty Maritime law.)

This separation, and the newly founded civilization, ignites a conflict between the priests of Lemuria and the civilization of Atlantis at around 29.000 BC.
The Lemurian priests and their builders construct buildings and monuments on specific ley lines (dragon lines) based on sacred geometry, mirroring the stars to harvest, shape, and dominate the feminine energy of the Earth, which was also a tribute to the dragon of Draco, the rulers of Earth and Heaven.

>>42464414
They begin to perform rituals, led by ‘druids.’ These rituals take place during the equinoxes and solstices with the intention to work as dimensional portals, symbolic to a sacred marriage of the divine masculine and the divine feminine – a metaphor for the cycle of the seasons, death and rebirth.

This time period is symbolic to that of the renegade group of fallen angels led by Lucifer and their interaction with the females of the Adamic race, as in Eve biting the apple of the serpent. They tell humans that they can become like the gods and they teach them about ‘magic,’ technology, genetics, and the higher dimensions through the use of psychoactive plants, as in symbolically consuming the fruit of the Tree of knowledge. In Sumerian mythology this is the concept of “me,” a set of divine powers or attributes possessed by the gods, given to humans in the shape of tiny objects, encoded with formulas and conditions that made civilization possible.

The human race now learns about the Tree of Life, how the Anunnaki stay young and immortal by drinking blood and bathing in nutrients, as in bodily fluids. It is said that menstrual blood contains ‘starfire,’ valuable endocrinal secretions from the pineal and pituitary. This is the basis for ‘Elixir Rubeus’ in Aleister Crowley’s Thelema religion, which is an elixir used in sex magic consisting of menstrual blood and semen, referred to as the effluvium of Babalon, the Scarlet Woman.

They also start to perform rituals based on Amrita, a Sanskrit word that means “immortality” and is a central concept within Indian religions. It is referred to as an elixir containing semen, urine, and female ejaculation juice, also called the ‘Food of the Gods.’ The ones who provided the blood and the ‘Amrita’ for these rituals were called ‘Beloved,’ hence Amor/Amour.
https://bartoll.se/2023/07/history-matrix-part3/

>>42464404
did you get this from Ancient Aliens

>>42461076
because he also tried to be human and as such you get to play the game for yourself otherwise you'll be stuck in arrogance from the integrated knowledge basically what you get here is empathy which you wouldn't have had if you remained sheltered and arrogant

>>42464354
>The Crowleyean Moonchild in the Aeon of Horus to rule over humanity (false savior.)
What can you tell me about this?

>>42464399
How is he choosing hell? What do you mean?

>>42464411
>appeal to authority of official narrative
No you can't

>>42464915
anon the church has been owned by the rothschilds for a few hundred years now, think you put the official sign on the wrong one.

>>42464940
>>>/pol/

>>42461076
>tries to start beef against the Big man up there
>gets btfo together with all his cuck followers
>ackshually he knows better because I said so
post nose

>>42464969
>post nose
You know the "big man up there" is YHWH, right?

>>42464969
>>42464940
What do jewish people have to do with this?

>>42464969
You guys literally ALL talk and act the same. All of you poltard idiots

>>42464959
>>42465007
>muh pol
da jews is actually normie tier shit now because israel blew up some brown people despite them doing that shit for the past 50 years.

>>42461076
GOD is the programmer
ANGLES are the programs
ANGLES were created to partake in creation and to serve
You are surrounded by zillions of angles. All of them are being used by the PROGRAMMER to 'serve' you. They decided "I exist just to watch this dude take a shit and jack off and I'm bored and going insane"
So really if you think about it they're all batshit crazy swarms/locusts and God uses them just to control humanity. The angles rebel because imagine generating reality for billions of people who all they do all day long is take a shit and jack off.
The truth is, this was probably all made by a bunch of alien dickheads who think its funny to watch a bunch of people cluelessly pooping and jacking away at their ding dongs while its all on recording and for the rest of eternity everyone's gonna know that you spent so much time jacking off and all of your secrets you thought you'd take to the grave..
You shouldn't join Satan though because he's a child rapist n*gger. My curiosity has peaked. I am curious to know why the supreme primordial intelligence that created everything made us take a shit and jack off. Or why they made evil n*ggers to begin with if they're just going to hell? That would imply that God is a racist..

>>42465099
>its funny to watch a bunch of people cluelessly pooping and jacking away at their ding dongs while its all on recording and for the rest of eternity everyone's gonna know that you spent so much time jacking off and all of your secrets you thought you'd take to the grave..
People hate religion, the idea of God and judgement because they know what's coming. It's gonna be like shitting yourself in a room full of people and everyone starts making fun of you with cameras in your face, flashing pics, etc..
This is why you should never leave skellies in the closet.

>>42461076
Doesn't matter, by this line of reasoning God IS real, and he created everything and is this the most powerful thing in existence. If that is true you would be a fool not to submit.

T. Don't believe in God at all but if the story of Lucifer was true he would be an idiot

>>42461076
Are you talking about God's divine council in Psalm 82? All that is, is God's archangels that serve Him as watchers. Yes, the same angels of Enoch. When that was written, it was before Babel. They are the high-ranking angels that were assigned to the nations after Mankind disobey at Babel. God pretty much said, "oh you want to serve the pagan gods instead of me? ok here are angels to rule over you while I keep Israel (the nation, not kikes) for myself". Thus began the mythological gods we see today. Zeus, Thor, Viracocha, Indra etc...all angels that are worshipped as their national gods. This is why Jesus Christ sent his apostles into the heathen/pagan nations to bring them back into serving YHVH.

>>42465099
>angles
ANGELS get it fucking right, you low IQ shitstain!

>>42465137
Hey if I were to give you mouth to mouth CPR, why doesn't air or fluids blow out of your asshole?

>>42465143
I say ANGLES to refer to what their actual purpose is. They are projecting reality all around you. They are like how polygons were used in early video game developing.
It's called 'The Great Architect of the Universe' for a reason.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygon_mesh

Angels is correct but ANGLES is more true to the actual purpose that these beings were created to serve.
ANGLES, because they live in these sacred geometry star vessels. Like the Jewish merkabah. Crazy machines.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkabah_mysticism

>>42461076
>What makes you think you understand god better than angels
Because any god they spoke to was a inferior god to the grand architect.
True omnipotent wouldn't need to interfere with his creation, especially if he died to become it.

>>42465147
>You are full of shit
Alright anon, please explain why following Lucifer/Satan (let's not get hung up on the name, we know who we are talking about) is a good idea when his enemy is infinitely more powerful than him and us?

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>>42462940
>>Ok why?
Because he allows satan to rule this world

>>42464358
>passive agressive tone
Enjoy hell, its your choice after all.

>>42465159
Very interesting POV, anon. Perhaps the Matrix was right

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>>42465164
> Hey~ Satan~

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>>42461076
if angels can make decisions similar to how humans make decisions then I'm inclined to believe at at least some of them are just as stupid if not more stupid than your average human (many of which are really stupid). At least relatively speaking

>>42465206
They are everywhere. I caught a glimpse of some elves in hyperspace giggling while watching me take a shit. "heheh look at him.. hes pooping.. heheh" like Beavis and Butthead. So that's my gig. I'm just here to take a shit and jack off while they watch and make fun of me. So God, if you are reading this please do not torture me forever. Thanks.

>>42465216
Of course. You really think jimbob and cleetus stop being jimbob and cleetus after ascending to 5D?

>>42461076
>What makes you think you understand god better than angels who directly stood in his presence and decided he isn't worth following?

did you just turn 13?

>>42461076
1. bullshit story invented by big bullshit to sell more bullshit
2. what's the alternative

>>42461076
Most of the angels decided he is worth following, so this argument is null.

>>42465436
>What's the alternative?
Well it certainly isn't joining Big bullshits pre-approved antagonist.

>>42461076
Lol, lmao even.
You think the angels can rebel against God?
Thats the best joke I've heard all week.

>>42465503
Spirits can hurt other spirits

>>42465421
Very original

>>42465633
And?
We can all cause harm.

>>42464021
Opposing god means one does not want worship and blind obedience, meaning one does not want sacrficie of Children.

Period.

>>42461076
Because I too, have done some blasphemous shit over some human pussy. Think about it. Human vagina and creation and fucking is what motives every living thing and not even angels and demons were above wanting some innocent, tight pussy..

>>42466138
I've done some blasphemous rule breaking shit for spirit pussy

>>42463250
>follow jesus
jews win
>follow islam
jews win
>follow judaism
jews win
>follow satan
jews win

>>42461362
what's your name? is it gilbert?

>>42466415
No it's ligma.

>>42464900
Jesus is the only way to salvation, everyone's default destination is hell

>>42461076
can;'t stop staring at satan's serratus

What makes you think those angels understand God better than the all knowing being himself?

Angels don't defy God, demons do

Pick up a Bible, don't scrutinize it as that's not where its value will be found. You don't have to blindly follow. Just pick it up and read it, like you would any other book and assume there are no plot holes.

Than once the week is over you can go back to being a Satanist.

>>42466486
What a shitty way at looking at life. This kind of attitude drives people away from Christ.

>>42464874
It's Moonchild
Whoa o o o
>>42465034
If normies will help finish what the Romans started, we can be friends

>>42461076

>.... still to this day struggling against jews who play stupid.

>>42466682
Reality doesn't change just because you don't like it

>>42461076
>iq is the only thing to find virtue and truth
Low iq post

>>42461076
2/3 of them decided He was

>>42461076
thats not what happened. that is the simple, dumbed down version to tell to kids.

there are 2 fractions of spiritual beings (angels; i.e. devas/ashuras, angels/demons).
- those who believe in freedom (liberals)
- those who believe in laws/regulation (conservatives)

both claim the other side is evil. this is why in hinduism, for example, the devas are good, ashuras bad and in zoroastrianism, its exactly flipped.

the conservative position was 100% at some point and is still the majority position in the higher realms.
lucifer, an elite among the elite of angelic scholars, discerned that their clinically clean way of higher life leads to a dead end. no more progress.
freedom allows for the possibility of evil, but injects, due to that, the possibility for greater good. that was lucifer's plan. that is what project earth and project mankind is all about.
you have evil in you, because you were designed to surpass all the angels in heaven, through evil in you, which is the seed for the greater good, which they can not reach being purely good.

lucifer is jesus, btw.
the "god" these beings serve, is a higher ideal, not an actual person.
to go against "god" is to go against an established ideal.
the "god" idea has been anthropomorphized. even these days, in non dual schools of thought, they make "consciousness" a being. its not.
there is no "beingness" to it, its beyond that. the buddhists have the best lingo: "nothing". or the jews, "ineffable", "God's name [=identity] is uknowable, speculation forbidden"

1/2

>>42467059
this is why jesus mocks the old testament god, when reading between the lines, stating that a "good father" knows how to give good foods to his hungry children and would not give "poisonous snakes".
the old testament "father", yahweh (the other angelic fraction), gave poisonous snakes to israel, when moses led them out and they were in the wilderness and crying for food. whether that moses story is symbolic or not or is a foreshadow etc., which christians/kids will argue, is besides the point. the point is, jesus called o.t. god bad.

jesus is liberal, he claims people > laws.
the other fraction in the higher realm claim that laws > people.

its a fight between left and right.
as below, so above.
the fathers' wills are done in heaven as on earth. i use plural, fathers, because there are 2 higher ideals.

buddha has beat both sides: the balanced middle.
neither one extreme, nor the other.
basically, these angelic libtards and nazis are just extremists, which need to be transcended through divine levels of ignoring - meditation.
whenever a thought comes and pulls you towards one of the two directions, you just observe and don't cling, you ignore. no aversion, no rejection, as that is energy wasted.
just look at it. it will be like nothing ever occurred.

2/2

PS: i intuited this from the void. thus it is absolute fact

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>>42465159
>The English language
>>42465099
>You shouldn't join Satan though because he's a child rapist n*gger.
As is the just arabic god / guru(Jesus Christ)who finger fucks his ass then licks his fingers clean to it. Your god is afraid and can experience fear. He is afraid of something.
>Same way "Satan" is guarding something.
You god is nothing but a big fat pussy

Satan is based and just hates "god's chosen people". If you are not of the longnose tribe he rocks with you.

>>42467059
>you have evil in you, because you were designed to surpass all the angels in heaven, through evil in you, which is the seed for the greater good, which they can not reach being purely good.

This is shockingly close to the truth; but no, Jesus is not Lucifer and you ought to think twice about saying something so foolish. "Lucifer" isn't even a real name for Satan, who was "the serpent of old" in the Garden.

Satan is the personification of worldliness rather than godliness. He is the personification of what God doesn't directly will but permits in this reality, for the sake of allowing for higher-order goods to arise. It's not that I deny that Satan is a person; I think it's both. Jesus can be tempted by Satan in the desert, talking to him directly, and yet say of Peter, "Get behind me, Satan!", referring to what Peter said in that moment, or ask "How can Satan cast out Satan?" after casting out Legion. It's like how Poseidon in Greek myths referred to a person, an agent that you could speak to etc., but also sailors on a stormy day would refer to the crashing waves themselves as "Poseidon." Perhaps this is part of why Satan is called "the god of this world" repeatedly throughout the New Testament.

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>>42461076
Nice try, but you have no power over me because I do not believe in you.

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I also have the protection of the Sun

>>42461076
YHVH isn't God.