Who was Moroni really?
Satan
>>42464097>IM A HECKKIN BAPTISTARINO THAT RUNS HIS OWN CONGREGATION BUT I DONT BELIEVE IN DIVINE AUTHORITY TO CARRY ON THE CHURCH OF CHRIST UNLESS I JUST SAY THE BIBLE LETS ME BUT THAT JOE SMITH GUY WHO SAYS HE IS A PROPHET AND THAT THE ORGANIZATION OF THE CHURCH NEED TO CONTINUE AND BE RESTORED IS FULL SHIT BUT NOT ME WHO READS A BIBLE THAT I CANT RECEIVE DIVINE INSPIRATION FROM ANYWAYS CAUSE THAT MIGHT MAKE ME A PROPHET TO
he was a MORON lmao
>>42464112Are you feeling alright?
>>42464112Man, I hate all you Jesus freaks. You're all fucking weirdos
>>42464091If you accept the Book of Mormon as a guide, an individual who preserved the plates of the Book of Mormon and who was translated into the role of an angel. If you don't accept that - the next reasonable explanation is that Joseph Smith met a spirit, a treasure guardian. This was common in America within his region and others saw similar figures. This is discussed at length in the book, "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," by D. Michael Quinn.
>>42464366Could be have been a deity that Smith mistook for a prophet?
From Quakers and Shakers to Scientology. USA gave birth to so many crazy religions.
>>42464091>Bro, an angel showed me some golden plates containing the final testament>Can we see the plates?>Sorry dude, the angel took them away. You have to trust me on this.>okWhy are Americans like this?
Probably something he made up
>>42464091Oh, so this is what twin peaks was referencing...
>>42464882Joseph Smith was a Free Mason
>>42464593Potentially. Quinn's work goes over this in more detail, but he gives example of an early attested story about Smith seeing a toad or reptile when he went to acquire the plates in Hill Cumorah; it goes that when he visited the reptile shifted, morphed, into a human figure. This being close in theme with other elemental spirits or treasure-guardians. Swedenborg, for example, saw salamanders and reptiles in vision before he saw heaven. So it fits the context of Euro-American magicka at the time.It is possible, if you believe in say American Indian spirits or local spirits, that he was tricked by one of these entities. There were others who used Seer Stones to find treasure that have similar stories about the "Red Men" having vast lost civilizations and buried treasure. >>42464882This is not what happened. The Three and Eight witnesses + others saw, felt, and described the plates. The three saw Moroni in vision alongside seeing the plates naturally. Suggested reading is: Richard Lloyd Anderson's "Investigating the Book of Mormon Witnesses," Larry E. Morris, "A Documentary History of the Book of Mormon.">>42466520Most Americans in the region were, but Smith was not a Freemason until he founded the city of Nauvoo. His brother Hyrum and his father were Masons as common custom at the time. I've got a buddy who's privy to the records of these things that records Joseph Smith lambasting Masonry - in my view he saw it as a means to an end rather than anything truly magical. However, Cheryl Bruno contests that reading, describes JS as a master ritualist, in her work "Method Infinite". >>42465227Twin Peaks was referencing the, sort of, Anglo-Indian folk magic of the 1700-1800s. Alongside Theosophy, Buddhism, and conspiracy culture of the 90s America. Mormonism is not referenced in the show.
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>>42464091some morons
>>42464882Since I got kicked out of england fuggin, druggin & blackmailing clergy women//minister wives for fun while whoring and gambling with their money.>Runs away to America Becomes PROPHET ... PROFIT???
>>42466849>The Three and Eight witnesses + others saw, felt, and described the plates. The three saw Moroni in vision alongside seeing the plates naturally.That they saw some kind of golden-looking plates is not much evidence of anything, though, nor are visions to sympathetic witnesses. Compare to e.g. the apostle Paul, whose experience of the risen Christ switched around his entire allegiance from a zealous, enthusiastic persecutor of Christianity to a zealous, enthusiastic evangelist of it.
>>42464091I, moron.
looks like an alien (maybe one of them pleiadeans? idk) they really love to watch you sleep and if they think you'll be useful for them they pretend to be your best friend. looks like they managed to dupe some american moron to set up a religious cult for them to harvest loosh off of.
>>42470915>looks like they managed to dupe some american moron to set up a religious cult for them to harvest loosh off of.Mormonism's cool though
>>42464091according to mormons he's the spirit of one of the deceased prophets who wrote in the Book of Mormon. if you don't believe that theory you'd probably conclude either Joseph Smith made him up or he was some kind of evil spirit who deceived him.
Wild guess but going to say Hermes, the messenger, the guide.
>>42464882>>42464890Even if he made it all up, that doesn't make LDS scripture any less true
>>42474614>Even if he made it all up, that doesn't make LDS scripture any less truea lie is the truth?
