Buddhism or Hinduism, which one is actually right?
>>42468827neither, and you're a retard who only thinks in logical fallacies.
>>42468827I respect Hinduism more as I'm life affirming
None.
>>42468842>goycattle instructions
>>42468827Buddhism was created by taking the few good parts of Hinduism, discarding the junk parts, and figuring out the missing parts.
>>42469654That sure is an image
>>42468827Neither.Zoroaster wrote down the real story.
When this is, that is.From the arising of this comes the arising of that.When this isn't, that isn't.From the cessation of this comes the cessation of that.In other words:From ignorance as a requisite condition come fabrications. From fabrications as a requisite condition comes consciousness. From consciousness as a requisite condition comes name-and-form. From name-and-form as a requisite condition come the six sense media. From the six sense media as a requisite condition comes contact. From contact as a requisite condition comes feeling. From feeling as a requisite condition comes craving. From craving as a requisite condition comes clinging/sustenance. From clinging/sustenance as a requisite condition comes becoming. From becoming as a requisite condition comes birth. From birth as a requisite condition, then old age and death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, and despair come into play. Such is the origination of this entire mass of stress and suffering.Now from the remainderless fading and cessation of that very ignorance comes the cessation of fabrications. From the cessation of fabrications comes the cessation of consciousness. From the cessation of consciousness comes the cessation of name-and-form. From the cessation of name-and-form comes the cessation of the six sense media. From the cessation of the six sense media comes the cessation of contact. From the cessation of contact comes the cessation of feeling. From the cessation of feeling comes the cessation of craving. From the cessation of craving comes the cessation of clinging/sustenance. From the cessation of clinging/sustenance comes the cessation of becoming. From the cessation of becoming comes the cessation of birth. From the cessation of birth, then old age and death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, and despair all cease. Such is the cessation of this entire mass of stress and suffering.https://www.accesstoinsight.org/ptf/buddha.html#awakening
>>42469654Increadible image. saved. thank you for sharingnamo buddhaya
>>42468827Both are wrong, both leads to hell. just another version of trying to "become your own god" bullshit.
>>42469654holy kek
>>42470881>noooooo you can't think your own thoughts>the jews need to do that for you
>>42468827The Buddha was teaching that all concepts are illusion, also the belief in gods, saviors and a divine plan. Even the world that we perceive as our reality is illusion, also life and death and all the experieces we make. That is a fundamental truth and unique among religious traditions.The practice of meditation in buddhism has to goal to overcome the illusion and awaken to the truth. It's not to escape the universe, it's to realise that there never was a universe and we were just dreaming all the lives we had.
>>42468827they're both right, Buddhism is just incomplete.You can go from the -1 of this world to the 0 of nonexistence with Buddhism, and Hinduism can bring you to the +1.
>>42468827discordgg/7kMhrksaGT
Saraswati Parvati and Lakshmi are female demons and Buddhism is egocentrism
>>42468827In theory or practice? In practice Buddhist countries and much nicer than the Hindu one.
Taoism probably
>>42468827There's no such thing as 'hinduism'. The term was invented to be accepted into UN or something, whatever. The answer is Kashmir Shaivism/Trika. All kinds of Buddism were defeated by KS people in formal debates. If your school cant win a depate - there's probably nothing valuable(or true) in it's esoteric/mystical aspects
>>42468827Buddhism is easier to get into because of its organized nature. It also has the advantage of universally accessible meditation techniques.For everything else, Hinduism is superior and the most complete truth.
>>42468827Buddha is a true blooded Aryan, who propounded the blood purity of an Aryan such as himself. An Aryan is a Kshatirya to whom the original Vedic faith belongs.The original Buddhist club was an elite club where amongst the Kshatriya the ruling class were his closest followers.Others were free to listen and follow him in an outer "Sangha" like gentiles for true Jews.He intended to wrest the Vedic faith free from the Brahmins, not to be confused with "Brahman". The superstitious Brahmin Supremacy and rewriting Vedic scriptures in favour of Brahmins is against the Aryans and their faith. The Buddha asks you to get over this superstition. To the Aryan he demands of him to prosper and reclaim the faith, to the gentiles he offers peace in suffering and higher realisation if they wish for it.The Hinduism that has spread throughout India is the equivalent of Christianity spreading while from the perspectice of the Jewish faith, the Christians are gentiles while Jews are the chosen people. It is literally the same logic. There are further nuances.Hiragana, Mahayana and the Marxist Navayana(which denounces everything Buddha said, denies blood purity of the Kshatriya, uses it as a weapon against Brahmins and uses Western Liberal and Marxist Framework) conveniently ignore the Supremacy of the Aryan and the Aryan path, and through their disagreements make it about their own takes on Buddha than Buddha himself.Anything that denies the Aryan people their right is trying to scam you. And the Aryans themselves are lost to the humdrum of the world
you need direct experience. your brain doesnt mature until late 20s, and after that it takes a few years of refinement to actually start noticing whats going on. thats why the 33 and the 35 for president.
Objection, your honor - assumes facts not in evidence!From where do your beliefs derive? Humans derive their beliefs mostly from inheritance, conditioning, and schooling, rather than direct observation and experience.What is one's real world experience with Buddhism or Hinduism?Awakening requires no formal meditation, by the way. I do not follow either path and I am very much awakened - I do not follow an inherited tradition. I respect all paths and those that are not awakened. There is no rush for any step in the unfolding of Creation.Awakening is about deconstructing one's beliefs and carefully (intentionally) allowing in beliefs based on personal experience and observation--holding even those beliefs provisionally. After that, what comes naturally is alignment - where behavior accords with one's beliefs.Claiming certain facts, without direct knowledge, has no real world value other than limiting oneself.So, if this world is "illusion," now what? What transformation in actual living follows from that belief?
All religions that do not believe in Yahweh are man made religions Yahweh is the only true God the creator of the Universe the Earth and life
>>42471615"Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it."Buddhists shouldn't concern themselves with pointless metaphysical debates that doesn't help attaining Nibbana. >Your point mirrors the Avyakata (the unanswered questions) in the early Pali Canon. When asked point-blank if the soul exists or does not exist, the Buddha famously remained silent. >He argued that: Speculating about a "Self" creates clinging (upadana).>Proposing "No-Self" as a rigid, dogmatic dogma also becomes a trap.>Like the Parable of the Poisoned Arrow, debating metaphysics does not cure suffering; it just delays the medicine
There is no reincarnation, thus both their telos are useless.
>>42471744>"Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it."And yet, you are doing this right now.Whatever. If you see the Truth or at least go in that direction, you can easily prove the correctness of your point - since it is close to the Truth. And since both teachings have literally the same set of practices, one of them being defeated by the other in MERE LOGIC, gives you a certain hint as to which one is true..
Buddha will never give you true peace only Christianity can
>>42471839Ok piggy, explain the logic.
>>42471871There used to be based saints and such, but I fail to see how modern fear based Christianity with its paranoia of everything being demonic and if you don't this or that you're going to hell, can bring real peace. It's not surprising that it creates toxic personalities with damages psyches, repressed desire birthing destructive shadows and a lot of family trauma.
>>42471871They're both avatars of Vishnu.
>>42472111Find it yourself. Cant talk, im a pig OINK-OINK.
>>42472161I am not the Buddha but I am here as the Maitreya
>>42468827It's actually a bit more nuanced.You see, one of the core misconceptions in spirituality is that every spiritual prescription works for everyone. There are different classes of character.For a non-conscious dream character, dissolution into Source makes sense. The Right Hand Path.For a conscious viewpoint, the Left Hand Path makes sense. Eternal individuation. The viewpoint itself being eternal and simply transferring between characters. Each conscious viewpoint IS an infinite and separate source God. The majority of the world are non conscious dream characters. So it makes sense why both east and west preach self erasure, realization of no self, and dissolution into src.
>>42472644P.SAnd also any forced reincarnation and karma is just not true at all. I was more thinking about the raw ontologies of the religions you presented.
>>42469654Nah they actually played off eachother a lot, and there's so many sects in both because everyone has a different path that best for them. Timeline:>vedas: Roaming horse warrior tribes pray to Indra and Agni for wealth and food>early upanishads: introduces styles of meditation>early buddhism: takes the hindu styles of meditation but tosses out the deity worship.>puranas: Introduce bhakti and especially mantras as primary path to God. >Mahayana: Introduces bhakti to Guan Yin, and may formerly Hindu deities. >later puranas: Tantras and meditation forms solidify.>Vajrayana: Take Hindu tantras which are primarily based on deity veneration through mantras, and claim mantrayana as the fastest path to liberation. There's a lot of back and forth, but also a lot of borrowing from originally Hindu methods and then claiming as their own
>>42471546You have to take IQ into account. There are 100 million Indians with 120 IQ, but there are 900 million Indians with 80 IQ. Try comparing Buddhist and Hindu countries that have similar IQ, like Indonesia to Thailand, and it turns out they are fairly similar. >>42471237It moreso that western atheists adopted the most dogmatic form of theravada buddhism. But when you see interviews with advanced mahayana practitioners its obvious they have a wide-ranging practices rather than being rigidly confined to a narrow theravadin path. Things like how contemplating vice and virtue to become a better person is very important, which sounds very similar to what a Christian saint would write about.
>>42472161Perhaps, but they go to different heavens. Do you want to spend an afterlife with white Christian saints, or with East Asian buddhist monks. >>42472140A religion should be judged by its successful monks, and not by its laymen. >>42471717>declaring yourself already complete with no formal workHmmmn. Maybe that has worked for you, but 90% chance when people claim this they are decieving themself
>>42472810>Do you want to spend an afterlife with white Christian saints, or with East Asian buddhist monks.Where does God want you? Are you going to be mad if God say He wants you in the group you dont like?
>Pee or poop, which one is actually right?
>>42468827Both are reinterpretations of much older philosophies, and both are false.Buddhism didn't exist until the late 1800's if I recall, and "Hindu" refers to a people.This post here >>42471106 says it very well, and while those principles are true, and worth considering, the dogmatic principles and rituals attached to the more modern practices does not match with the original teachings.So consider this as well.
Both. Take them as history books. Atila was good for the Huns. Charlemagne was good for the French Christians. Hitler was good for the Germans.
neither because i myself am the god i am seeking
