Many ignorant people who go to church believe in a soul floating off to heaven after they die

>>42476944
Reincarnation

When (You) die, (You) are forced to perceive non-existence for eternity. You can’t reflect, mourn, daydream, or ponder. You can’t sense anything, you can’t make friends or enemies, and you can’t get your dick wet. You just have to experience the perspective of an unconscious person until you’re brought back to life (which is probably never since bodies tend to decay quickly.)

I know someone who died for several minutes before being revived. He didn’t remember anything or have an NDE. It was just nothingness. And he hasn’t been the same ever since. He claims he can survive without water for up to 2 weeks and his reticular activating system is going haywire (he gets CONSTANT synchronicity involving numbers).

Death changes you if you manage to survive, but there’s nothing that comes after unless God exists (and he simply doesn’t judge souls until the person is truly dead, hence why my friend had no NDE since he only died for minutes)

>>42476944
>According to the Bible when we die we are just dead and nothing happens
You’ve never read the bible? Jesus says heaven is vast and eternal. A house filled with many mansions

The story of the divine son/sun is a metaphor for the cycle of the seasons and linked to the spiritual death/rebirth experience of plant medicines. The son/sun is conceived during winter solstice by the golden phallus, the first rays of light (through sexual union, the 6 pointed star of David/hexagon of Saturn=> six pointed flower of life). He is born during the vernal equinox, reaches his peak at summer solstice, begins to fall during fall, like the fallen angel and dies during autumn, the story of duality, light/dark, yin/yang, good/bad. Summer solstice, when the sun passes between Gemini and Cancer is the Gate of Men. 21 december, winter solstice, when the sun passes between Sagittarius (ruled by Jupiter) and Capricorn is the Gate of the Gods, when the interdimensional veil gets thinner, to feed the evolutionary process of human intelligence. At this time, the constellation of the giant Orion occupies the midway between northern and southern hemisphere of the heavens, commands the winter sky in upwards position. The equinox, the central pillar is the equila, the equator, the aguila, the needle, the eagle, when the sun and its twin, the black sun Saturn meet. The male sky and sun god puts his golden phallus in the womb of the female earth and underworld and out of this sexual union, the new sun is born, rises, is erect, resurrected again, with his female companion, the Morning Star, the bringer of dawn, Phosp-Horus, Venus. Venus statues are made all across Europe (around the Danube, mother goddess Danu, Venus of Dolni Vestonice in Czechia).

>>42477009
John 5:28-29
[28]Wonder not at this, for an hour is coming in which all who are in the tombs shall hear his voice,
[29]and shall go forth; those that have practised good, to resurrection of life, and those that have done evil, to resurrection of judgment.

>>42476944
I think it works like how your current state of mind (in general, not necessarily how you specifically feel in one particular moment unless you are feeling something very strongly in a particular moment) affects what kind of dream you have when you go to sleep, or what happens in your dreams.

That's why I'm scared of attempting suicide, because someone on here said a while ago that if you die while you're in a vibration of extreme negativity or fear that "soul mercenaries" in the astral realm can sniff you out and hunt you down and allegedly drag you to alternate dimensions or cause forced reincarnation. I think focusing on/communicating directly with a specific spiritual entity at the moment of death (like a specific deity or religious figure) can allow for them to intervene in this process and protect you.

I read about how your current state of being affects where you go as you transition at the moment of death when I was a Buddhist (I'm not a Buddhist anymore, and I also grew up Hindu), and I noticed once that when I fell asleep while in a particularly positive state / good mood because of something really good that happened once, I remember feeling really good in my dream afterwards, though I don't remember what I actually dreamed about.

Opposite to our universe, is something that comes about via something tiny and free energy, an electrocube. When you die in this biosphere, you goto the nearest electrocube.

>>42477046
Exactly that says we reincarnate or live in heaven depending on your interpretation which isn’t nothing

>>42477052
>I think focusing on/communicating directly with a specific spiritual entity at the moment of death (like a specific deity or religious figure) can allow for them to intervene in this process and protect you.
I meant as in doing that during the process of death in general, not specifically suicide. I also think that focusing on or communicating with such a being could allow for them to help you in the process of death in addition to protecting you.

>>42477070
Also I wanna say that I'm not advocating for suicide or trying to state these things as a method for "bulletproofing" yourself during suicide. I just arranged what I said the way I did because I remembered the information in that order. (Yes, I have OCD and am overly pedantic sometimes because I have severe religious trauma and lots of fear regarding certain spiritual beliefs.)
I don't know if what happens to someone after death when they commit suicide is the same as what would happen if they died naturally or by some other cause and not by suicide.

>>42477069
Learn how to read what it says and stop uttering nonsense

>>42476944
Whatever you want. This life is a tutorial for your own personal dream state that can be whatever you want it to be. All the negativity in these threads is just nonsense made my the fearful.

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>>42477179
Thanks anon

>>42477009
Sleep of the soul. Canon holds that we wait in our graves until the end of time and then judgment day occurs. The dead rise from the grave and the good enter the kingdom of heaven and the unworthy are cast into the pit to be disposed of forever.
Right now, heaven is empty except for God and maybe a few saints who “entered heaven alive” such as Enoch.
That’s what the Bible says

>>42477069
Reincarnation is Hindu.
Nothing about that is Christian.

>>42477247
"Hindu" is an umbrella term for a huge variety of spiritual traditions in India made by British colonizers who mispronounced the name of the Indus river.
Historically some regions in India didn't even believe in samsara, some believed that after death a soul goes to be judged by Yama and then reside in a separate realm and can be given offerings. That sounds similar to what Koreans and East Asians believe with ancestor veneration and making offerings to the deceased.

>>42477088
>According to the Bible when we die we are just dead and nothing happens
Are you fucking retarded
You’ve never even read the full bible dnd you don’t understand what you’re telling about
That’s why you made the thread asking for help understanding you stupid faggot bitch
Kek
>>42477242
>Canon holds that we wait in our graves until the end of time
Show this quote in the bible dumbfuck
You’re interpretation isn’t even the most common consensus much less accurate

>>42477247
No Christianity has reincarnation in the bible
Jesus even says John the Baptist is reincarnated Elijah
Read the bible you stupid bitch
Kek

the Bible states that all people who have died will be bodily resurrected at the end of time to face God's final judgment. This doctrine is a central pillar of Christian eschatology.
Daniel 12:2: Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake, some to everlasting life and others to shame and everlasting contempt.John 5:28-29: Jesus states that a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned.
Acts 24:15: Paul affirms his belief that there will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked.
Revelation 20:12-13: The dead, great and small, stand before the throne, and the sea, death, and Hades give up the dead that are in them to be judged according to what they had done.

>>42477267
“Stupid bitch “

Maybe you should read the Bible

>>42477273
He is just very ignorant and frustrated

I need poo

>>42477007
How did he die?
I don't think lack of nde prove an afterlife one way or the other, it could simply be that he doesn't remember what happened.

>>42476944
Your take is biblically correct, don't expect anyone on here to agree with it.

>>42476944
i believe we live in a simulation created by some bored higher dimensional being that plugged itself into the game. however i believe even more strongly that this is a limited belief based on my current limited knowledge. the truth is likely not possible to be grasped. but it's the best guess i have. same as 500 years ago their best guess would have been either heaven/hell or reincarnation (depending on the geographic region). and 3000 years ago the best guess would have been sheol/hades/hel (calm place, the tombstone) and 5000 years ago something like ancestors watching over you. and for animals they have no belief at all. all of these are wrong one way or another and i may be wrong on the examples i brought up (feel free to correct me), but the point is that our understanding is limited and simulation is my current best flawed guess.

>>42476944
>According to the Bible when we die we are just dead and nothing happens
The story of Lazarus and the rich man in Luke 16 has both of them being taken to an afterlife where they are conscious immediately after death, with the rich man going to Hades, the place where many of the dead are in Revelation prior to the final judgment. And it's before the end of the world because the rich man asks for his brothers to be warned so they don't end up there too. Also, in 2 Corinthians 5:8, Paul says, "Yes, we do have confidence, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord." And in Philippians 1:23-24 he says, "My desire is to depart and be with Christ, for that is far better, but to remain in the flesh is more necessary for you."

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>>42476944
https://youtu.be/OpUrgiYbA7Q

read this book
its easy, question answer format

dunno about anyone else but when I "die" I'm going back to my own world and my real body

and if I find out this was all just a nightmare I was having, it would make perfect sense

>>42476944
Instead of posting the correct answer I will Instead shame you for not being able to identify the truth even if it were sitting in front of you.

Why bother teaching those who are unable to figure out who they should be listening to?

It's pointless to give information to those who cannot discern truth from lies and deception

You think someone is going to tell you? How can they? You are going to choose what to believe based on your own limitations. The truth will remain unrecognizable to you until you have earned it.
It's a waste of time to offer it.

The answer is not simple and you will ignore it anyway.. until the process is underway and it will be too late to learn how to do anything that will matter.

Yea I'm a little cynical and tired of stupid people.. not implying that you are but the essential point is that you won't recognize the truth until you have the ability to verify it yourself.. so that's what you should be asking how to do. At least then you will be able to determine if you are following bullshit or truth by examining results

You might get a less frustrated response while asking a more useful question

You gotta be pretty close to retarded to fall for the dogma of organized religion.

>>42476944
The Bible says no such things y and here's just two examples showing you are an idiot a) Transfiguration Moses (dead) appears to Christ, b) Christ tells the pharisees Abraham is not dead as God is God of the living not the dead and c) Christ says to the Dismas, the thief on the cross, truly I tell you this day you shall stand before me in paradise.

That's just 3 of the countless examples. Next time try reading the Bible not tiktoking it

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>>42476944
That's the neat part anon, you don't die!

>>42466104

Reincarnation for the souled people and the NPCs just go back to general undefined energy.

>>42476944 Digits
Disunion between 'spirit' and matter.
Disunion from signal and radio.
Unless you remove yourself from spiritual agitation, you bring yourself to other forms of existence.
If you remove spiritual agitation, attachments, then you fall to rest and union with that which you always were prior to your incarnation into reality.

>>42480575
It's the inverse, surprisingly enough. I see why you think this, though, but those who are of this world stay of this world. Those who are not fall back to the infinite potential from which we all arose from.

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>>42476944
First, Read the Book of Hosea. Notice Hosea 6:2:
>After two days he will revive us; on the third day he will raise us up, that we may live before him.

Then, read the Book of Jonah. How long was Jonah in the belly of the "whale?"
>Jonah 1:17: And the LORD appointed a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.
>three fully days

What did Jonah do in the "belly of the fish?":
>Then Jonah prayed to the LORD his God from the belly of the fish,

Jonah prayed to God for forgiveness. God then commanded the whale to spit Jonah back out onto dry land.

So, make of this what you will. I think you can read Jonah as his refusal to follow God's will, dying, and being reborn, to carry out the mission given to him by God.

>>42477007
You contradict logic and yourself multiple times in this incoherent babble

>>42480606
This interpretation is further reinforced by Jonah 2:2:
>saying, “I called out to the LORD, out of my distress, and he answered me; out of the belly of Sheol I cried, and you heard my voice.

Jonah died, and prayed to God. God answered his prayer, and brought Jonah back to life, reborn, to fulfill his mission, to go to Ninevah and proselytize.

>>42480593
>Those who are not fall back to the infinite potential from which we all arose from.
Also known as NPC heaven

>>42476944
One more thing, Read Song of Songs chapter 8:6:
>for love is strong as death, jealousy is fierce as the grave.

Now, the literal interpretation of this is clear: love overpowers the lover. The lover has little control over their passion for the beloved. But, esoterically, love is what conquers all, as death conquers all in this realm of becoming. If you truly love, loving anything, but especially God, will you every truly die?

>>42480649
No. It's not a place, and again, it's not something lesser beings can enter into, because in order to part from the cycles of suffering and rebirth, you must first examine what you are, and what you are not.
Without realizing that this identity you possess here temporarily is illusory, you are damned to incarnate endlessly, and suffer endlessly.
If that's your choice, that's one thing, but, if you knew how much more limited you are here and now, you would be more likely to reconsider my words.
I think your insecurity attached to your sense of self, your ego, is steering you towards contrarianism, but whatever the case, you would be trapped in false identity if you were to return or reincarnate here in physical conjured reality.

>>42480656
>>for love is strong as death, jealousy is fierce as the grave.
not him
but i would interpret that to mean:
>love is an attachment as great as death
i wonder what the author of that message intended it to mean? in all sincerity i wonder

>>42480485
Wow just wow at how confident ignorance is

>>42477263
Ignorant and arrogant and rude guy

>>42477242
Your understanding is close to what the Bible teaches. I would argue though that the kingdom comes to us (the second age). What do you think

>>42480668
Yous a bitch is all I hear. Hurry up and go to NPC heaven it's waiting for you.

>>42480835
Are you that guy that posts nothing but ad hominem fallacies and calls every "Jase" and such on /b/? you remind me of him.
I hope you learn to see past your own nose someday.
You have no point to make, and your claims are false.
inb4 moar namecalling and deriding towards dismissal of the subject.

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>>42480870
You're suicidal but you're coping and calling it spirituality. Begone NPC demon I cast you out.

>>42481002
Wrong on both counts concerning me. I am neither suicidal or an "npc".
If you actually listened instead of making things up about others in order to attempt to shut them down, you may come to understand others, reality and yourself more, but instead you're being dishonest and petty.
You have no argument. You only reply with namecalling and dismissal, and what I suspect by your behavior is a great deal of projection as well.

>>42480707
Finally you got some self awareness! But hey I gave you the words of Jesus whom you wish to contradict but claim you follow so if that's not the arrogance you claim whilst being unable to refute the quotes I gave, then I don't know what is!

>>42481880
Just stop talking on a topic you don't understand

>bodily resurrection
>reincarnation

Same thing.
>nooo thats not christian!
>dying and coming back to life

Same concept different languages.

This entire forum is useless, nobody is willing to learn anything. Just a bunch of retards asserting their baseless opinions.

>>42482194
Still can't refute a single thing. You've had two opportunities and failed. Looks like you project your own shortcomings onto others as all morans do!

>>42476944
Our body ceases to be, our mind/experiences gets absorbed into the emanation from God that determined the index for our existence. I don't know whether we can persist after this in new lives, but union with the Divine will happen.

>>42476944
The miracles of Jesus are performed by an extension of Jewish mysticism.
The Judaic view of the afterlife is that when anyone does they to Sheol and they wait for the Messiah to arrive. At this point, they will be resurrected for judgment, and they will either enter the new Jerusalem and be with God or they will be casted into a pit and disposed of completely forever.
Christian Cannon holds to this same tradition of sleep of the soul, but also espouses the idea of being with Christ immediately at death.
Judaism doesn’t look for converts, but Christianity does.
There is no sales pitch more appealing than an escape from the grave.
Christianity heralds both views creating a paradox of dogma.
Christianity both adheres to the sleep of the soul rooted in Jewish belief in some parts of the Bible while also claiming a complete escape from the grave immediately upon death in others.
Does Jesus truly have an alternate work around for the grave or has Christianity simply been employing the most exaggerated claim of all time in order to expand its numbers?

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>>42476972
There's a genuine push to try to get everyone to think there's nothing when that's illogical, we all came from something, were here now, impossible odds yet we live, we will continue to live. Look into NDE visions from blind people who passed on and came back, same with children and whoever else, people pronounced dead only to come back and every single case of what they've seen is the same, they all saw different parts of Heaven, met deceased pets and relatives, even those they haven't seen only to tell their family who they met and saw to their surprise. I'm not sure what the agenda is of malicious people in this thread, I feel they are not in control of themselves as I've seen them around me in real life too and they cause me negative thoughts. I had an NDE when I was younger, I was brought back and I saw the Afterlife, these are cases with no brain activity, body is completely and entirely dead but revives later, science cannot explain this no matter how hard they try. As others have stated, reincarnation is an option you have, a choice you make upon death, it's just a simple yes or no, the other option is Heaven itself, the Afterlife, it looks close to the biblical description of Heaven, I'm not sure where OP got his or her idea from, I assume a mistranslated bible (like most of them). Feel free to share this image around or screencap me.

>>42476944
Reincarnation. Many instances all over the world of kids saying things about their past life.

>>42477009
Jesus never said you can go to heaven when you die. Sorry. This isn't the only deception in Christianity.