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>>42482221

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>>42482315
That’s funny I was telling someone that all forms of divination work because they’re like personality tests like MBTI and describe universal experiences that we all experience.

>>42482221
instead of asking other people to think for you, try thinking for yourself by experimenting with it and observing the results

>>42483580
I can get opinions, suggestions, information...

>>42482221
There's a season chart in the Legge translation if you memorize the season chart(s) you'll intuit many mysteries

>>42482221
>Since I am not a sinologue, a foreword to the Book of Changes from my hand must be a testimonial of my individual experience with this great and singular book. It also affords me a welcome opportunity to pay tribute again to the memory of my late friend, Richard Wilhelm. He himself was profoundly aware of the cultural significance of his translation of the I Ching, a version unrivaled in the West.

>If the meaning of the Book of Changes were easy to grasp, the work would need no foreword. But this is far from being the case, for there is so much that is obscure about it that Western scholars have tended to dispose of it as a collection of "magic spells," either too abstruse to be intelligible, or of no value whatsoever. Legge's translation of the I Ching, up to now the only version available in English, has done little to make the work accessible to Western minds. Wilhelm, however, has made every effort to open the way to an understanding of the symbolism of the text. He was in a position to do this because he himself was taught the philosophy and the use of the I Ching by the venerable sage Lao Nai-hsuan; moreover, he had over a period of many years put the peculiar technique of the oracle into practice. His grasp of the living meaning of the text gives his version of the I Ching a depth of perspective that an exclusively academic knowledge of Chinese philosophy could never provide.
>I am greatly indebted to Wilhelm for the light he has thrown upon the complicated problem of the I Ching, and for insight as regards its practical application as well. For more than thirty years I have interested myself in this oracle technique, or method of exploring the unconscious, for it has seemed to me of uncommon significance. I was already fairly familiar with the I Ching when I first met Wilhelm in the early nineteen twenties; he confirmed for me then what I already knew, and taught me many things more.

>>42483732
>I do not know Chinese and have never been in China. I can assure my reader that it is not altogether easy to find the right access to this monument of Chinese thought, which departs so completely from our ways of thinking. In order to understand what such a book is all about, it is imperative to cast off certain prejudices of the Western mind. It is a curious fact that such a gifted and intelligent people as the Chinese has never developed what we call science. Our science, however, is based upon the principle of causality, and causality is considered to be an axiomatic truth. But a great change in our standpoint is setting in. What Kant's Critique of Pure Reason failed to do, is being accomplished by modern physics. The axioms of causality are being shaken to their foundations: we know now that what we term natural laws are merely statistical truths and thus must necessarily allow for exceptions. We have not sufficiently taken into account as yet that we need the laboratory with its incisive restrictions in order to demonstrate the invariable validity of natural law. If we leave things to nature, we see a very different picture: every process is partially or totally interfered with by chance, so much so that under natural circumstances a course of events absolutely conforming to specific laws is almost an exception
>The Chinese mind, as I see it at work in the I Ching, seems to be exclusively preoccupied with the chance aspect of events. What we call coincidence seems to be the chief concern of this peculiar mind, and what we worship as causality passes almost unnoticed. We must admit that there is something to be said for the immense importance of chance. An incalculable amount of human effort is directed to combating and restricting the nuisance or danger represented by chance. Theoretical considerations of cause and effect often look pale and dusty in comparison to the practical results of chance

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>>42483742
Nice, already downloaded the wilhelms I ching book

"Trigrams of Han"
Essential reading on the subject

Tao Te Ching a good companion study

>>42484555
nice numbers.
could you elaborate why?

>>42482221
They represent different stages of internal cultivation of energy. Anything else that they attribute to it, is from uniformed lay folk, both chinese or western. Including nonsense such as divination

>>42486607
>They represent different stages of internal cultivation of energy.
>divination
Same things idiot
You’re not smart, your take is literally the lowest iq reddit tier take in this thread
Kek

>>42486663
not him but I don't get this point. how it's divination and cultivation of inner energy the same thing?

>>42486958
Even if you’re not that anon you certainly are as stupid as them
Predicting energy movement is what divination is
How can you be on this website and still be so dumb to this?
Do you think divination is predicting exact lottery numbers or some other retard tier shit?
Your parents must be embarrassed to have raised someone as dumb as you
I’m not the original guy your responding to and I knew exactly what they meant

>>42486301
Because the trigrams of Han explains the origins of the system.
It is necessary to see past the effects that humans have had to focus on the underlying system.

And the tao is the tao.

>>42487954
*you're

>>42491556
Yro'ue

bumping

>>42483580
>instead of asking other people to think for you, try thinking for yourself by experimenting with it and observing the results
the I ching is literally asking the 2D RNG system to think for you. this is your brain on liberalism: think for urself! be happy! do not submit to god!
open a book

It's fun to learn and easy to get into, especially if you read classical chinese, but actually understanding the meaning and gaining "mastery" of it probably takes a lifetime.

Confucius is quoted in the Analects as saying:
>加我數年 五十以學易 可以無大過矣
If I were given some additional years, 50 I would use to study the Changes, and might thereby be without great faults.

I think that should give an idea of what a weighty and massive field of study it is.

But to just have fun divining with it, all you need are three coins and a copy of the text

>>42492585
but how much of that depth is so?
I mean, you can get lost into the lore of some games and they are just games.
how much of that depth is just made up?

>>42492602
the depth is chinese language. none of it is made up. like any complete theorem, go to godel and now the theorem can imply it's negation. hexagram divination isn't made up, it's not a game at all it's a mathematical random number generator. with an understanding of the language then comes the immediate understanding of the hexagrams which is the strength of the system. the difficulty is directly at being able to know all the hexagrams and their interactions which is a derivation of knowing complete chinese.
it's a stronger divination tool than llms example because it taps ancient themes, on the bad side those ancient themes could be memes that have no quantum significance. I think it's quite good because the hexagrams do symbolize many interactions in natural order. again, you might only find that specific order in china at a specific time.