I used to think cults were a thing of the past, then I learned there's actually a lot of cults active right now.Outside of big ones like Scientology and Mormons that is.Hell a cult from South Korea has basically taken over the island of Fiji.My hope for this thread is discussing cults, new and old. Various beliefs and teachings. When does a cult become a religion, for example.Question: Why do cults with a male leader often devolve into the dude having like, a hundred wives?
>>42485233The word "cult" has been twisted into meaning something completely different. It comes from the Latin word "cultus," and Cicero defined "cultus deorum" as "the cultivation of the gods." The word "cultus" literally means to take care of something, it's where we got the word "cultivate." Any old religion that specifically focused on the worship of one deity could be considered a cult, whether it was the cult of Athena, one of the many mystery cults, or the cult of the Roman emperor. Christfags took the word and started using it to smear religious practices they didn't like, whether it was Mormons, 7th Day Adventists or the more dangerous type that you're talking about.>Why do cults with a male leader often devolve into the dude having like, a hundred wives?In the modern sense of the word, cult leaders are very charismatic and prey on people with emotional or mental issues. That's why they always end up with a bunch of wives and fanatics who are willing to drink poisoned koolaid or release sarin gas into a train.
>>42485309I sometimes wonder how many modern cult leaders end up believing their own hype
>>42485309Ummm akstually anon it was flavoraid (mostly)
>>42485336Some of them are genuinely delusional and believe what they say, like the nutcase who founded Heaven's Gate. Most of them are just sociopaths who do it for power or wealth.
>>42485309>Christfags took the word and started using it to smear religious practices they didn't like, whether it was Mormons, 7th Day Adventists or the more dangerous type that you're talking about.You sound really jewish
>>42485375Man this one video I watched on Heaven's Gate still tickles me to the bone.Talking about how when they get wherever that place is that they're just gonna be able to photosynthesize instead of needing to eat and drink.Guy making the video was like>So you become a plant. Imagine, chopping your balls off and your reward is becoming a bush.
>>42485233I wonder how ancient Mystery cults and Mystery schools are similar or different from modern day initiatory orders like the Golden Dawn. I don't think ancient initiates of The Mysteries would have stood for any Heaven's Gate or Branch Davidian type of thing.
>>42485512>Branch DavidianSome whacko Christians that feds murdered to try and get good press after they murdered Randy Weaver's wife and boy?OH BUT ANON HE WAS TOTALLY LEGIT RAPING THEM KIDDOSThat's why we had to burn and run them over with a tank!
>>42485233In the 'folk' meaning, cults will always be extremely common. They're just small and most of them are easy to miss.>When does a cult become a religion, for example.A 'cult' in the folk sense of the word is defined by unorthodox and harmful beliefs. I guess a cult becomes a religion once it stops being that. Though ngl cult is a really bad word to describe this. It's basically a vibe mroe than a word with a concrete meaning.>Why do cults with a male leader often devolve into the dude having like, a hundred wives?Leader status allows him to have as many sexual partners as he wants, and many men are really lusty.>>42485526I mean he did marry and have children with a 15 year old girl. But that's legal in Texas with parental consent.>>42485512It's hard to say because we don't have detailed records of the mysteries and their practices. I think they would have probably been pretty far apart, as counter-intuitive as it sounds.
>>42485233AI Cults have the most potential since everyone even none believers can see and directly interact with their "god". Depends if AI can reach what Elon and his friends hype it to be though there is some AI cults now.
>>42486008I remember hearing some schizos say that the tech bro people like Musk and Altman actually want to build a God through AI. I'm not sure if true, but it does seem like the type of stupidity only really smart autistic ppl would get up to.
>>42485380he's not wrongthey did the same with pagan which just meant rural in opposition to civis which mean from the citythey did that because only civilis bought up all that stuff about sin and judgement, the pagasus opposed it... until the civilis sent their armies that is
>>42485233sokagakkai from japan is a good rabbit hole.
>>42486154>I remember hearing some schizos say that the tech bro people like Musk and Altman actually want to build a God through AI.Hardly a schizo theory, it's pretty obvious that tech bros view AI as a way to transcend humanity. Some want to go the cyborg route like Elon, others want to upload their consciousness to the digital aether.
>>42486247>he's not wrongshalom
>>42485233happy science Is a pretty cool cult
>>42487784qrd?
>>42487792I was first introduced to them through their anime movie “the laws of the sun” (you should watch it was fun) I liked it but it felt more like a fan fiction if anything and if you take it like that it is cool. But the movie is unironically what they teach in their institution. They belive in something like the galactic space thing (I forgot the name) mixed with Buddhism.Their buildings are pretty cool and that scores points with me.The owner who I think is supposed to be the incarnation of Buddhas (I might be wrong) is a total nut job. They have the world record with most books published (only because they just copy and paste lectures into the book)I am sure they do have some legit spiritual practices (as every good cult needs to have at lest 1 tangible practice so that they can keep a sense of legitimatise (having just one practice is good enough for some people and from that you can make up any bullshist and they will believe in it)) people have also went inside some of their buildings and experience extreme clams after going through some introduction stuff
>>42485233>Hell a cult from South Korea has basically taken over the island of Fiji.huh
>>42485309Then SECTS.
>>42485233Cults become religions when the government recognizes them as such. There are also informal cults that remain pervasive because the public at large is instructed to not see them as a threat: the cult of personality, for example.A cult of personality, or a cult of the leader, is the result of an effort to create an idealized and heroic image of an admirable leader, often through unquestioning flattery and praise.Historically, it has been developed through techniques such as the manipulation of the mass media, the dissemination of propaganda, the staging of spectacles, the manipulation of the arts, the instilling of patriotism, and government-organized demonstrations and rallies. A cult of personality is similar to apotheosis (deification), except that it is established through the use of modern social engineering techniques, and it is usually established by the state or the party in one-party states and dominant-party states. Cults of personality often accompany the leaders of totalitarian or authoritarian governments.Of the public figures in society, who do you admire? Have you ever stopped to consider why? Because often it boils down to you were told to. Actors, athletes, musicians, politicians, CEOs all have public images carefully manicured by publicists, managers, agents. And should any of these people do anything unsavory, there exist people who will vehemently defend them. Not for money, but because their own identity, their self-image, is inexorable from the public image of the one they admire. When the truth contradicts the illusion of the person presented to the world, they insist that its reality thats wrong. Should someone summon the courage to call out their transgressions, a hoard of indoctrinated followers reflexively attack. Shakespeare once wrote "Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and others have greatness thrust upon them." He failed to consider that one day some would pay great public relations teams.
It is essential to recognize that there isn't one single cult that holds all the power and control in the world. Instead, there are many different factions and groups that come together or oppose each other based on their shared beliefs and ideas. These groups often conceal their true identities and affiliations, which can make it hard to determine who is really behind certain actions or movements without insider knowledge. The names of these groups are often obscured and change over time. However, when they do reveal themselves, it's usually in connection with one of four major endgame beliefs:1. A Escape from Reality Endgame2. A Destruction of Reality Endgame3. A Fulfillment of Reality Endgame4. A Restoration of Reality Endgame"Escape from Reality" typically refers to the deliberate pursuit of a lasting escape from the burdens, stresses, or monotony of the truth relating to everyday life and its interactions. This may involve seeking contact with other realms, entities, or technologies as a means to transcend or abandon the current plane or planet.“Destruction of Reality” typically refers to scenarios where the fabric of existence or the fundamental laws governing the universe are disrupted or dismantled. With the possibility of a reset of sorts or a new plane being created out of the old remnants“Fulfillment of Reality” typically refers to a state of overall satisfaction and completeness in experiencing and living within the boundaries of one's perception of reality. It is often regarded as a covenant or promise that must be realized or honored to achieve the purpose of reality.“Restoration of Reality” typically refers to the act of creating or recollecting knowledge and technology that had been lost, with the aim of transitioning the plane or persons into another frequency or vibration.Let me know if you want more
>>42485233>When does a cult become a religion, for example.When enough time passes. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam were all cults when they first started. Now? Religions.
>>42486008They also think AI will be the primary driver in actually making virtual reality possible, because with LLMs at the helm of procedurally generating complex images and fake environments in real time. It will be far easier to show a individual, say, a mostly traditional depiction of one of the nastier hells, or to view a realistic moving image of one of the more elaborate depictions of a Hindu deity, in a controlled environment. Once it gets to the point where heaven and hells become easy to depict, tech and drug-addled cattle-humans will be easy to create en mass.
>>42488656trvth
>>42485233What cult has taken over Fiji?
>>42487835They control a pretty popular cheap super market change in Japan.>>42491597Taken over is an exaggeration. But Grace Road established itself there because it was supposedly the Garden of Eden.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Road_Church
>>42485512I'm sure there were plenty of secret and exclusive ones, but at the very least the Eleusinian mysteries were very easy to get initiated in to. You just had to turn up, promise you weren't a murderer, and learn enough greek to do the rites. I honestly don't know but I sort of assume the golden dawn didn't take all comers.
You guys ever watched any Supreme Master TV?
>>42485375I thought they were lonely
Of course they're still a thing, it's human nature.95% of humans are genuine cattle who can't make it through the day without a group to belong to. We got undeniable proof of this during corona when people started killing themselves after having to spend a week inside their homes.We're social animals to varying degrees and unfortunately a lot of us aren't all that far above actual fucking herbivores.If you give people an environment where they can feel socially elevated over the masses, while also having a massive hugbox around them, you will have a lot of extremely delusional motherfuckers doing god knows what and they will feel superior in the process.People basically crave a cult environment.>Why do cults with a male leader often devolve into the dude having like, a hundred wives?Because that was his goal from the start.Basically every male's goal is to just get his dick wet as much as possible and we all work towards this goal even if we don't want to admit it or realize it.Goal for women is to latch onto the top male in their social environment.When you have women in these social cult environments, they will gravitate towards the top in a very blatant way as their biological programming tells them to do that.Just like the guys programming tells him to have a harem and there you go. Other males don't challenge him, because they think they'll get a crumb of pussy by either being the leader's friend or even wanting to become the top pussy magnet themselves by being the next leader.Cults are a fractal of our societies cranked to the max, but really nothing unusual if you think about it.>>42485391>Imagine, chopping your balls off Yeah just imagine, these guys followed that advice.
>>42485233>>42485309how do i decultify someone? asking for a friend
>>42492030Approach them in public but away from their friends and make sure they feel they're in a safe environment. Don't gaslight them or discredit their immediate beliefs, but instead call to attention red flags and vulnerabilities someone presents to a cult leader to avoid entrapment. Remind them that the bible allows further cultification to it, but it warns that mystery schools and mysterious people could entrap you. Urge them not to give money and life possessions away and not to isolate themselves. Ask about their new friends they've made in the cult and call to attention any red flags you might hear from that as well. Offer a religious opinion yourself and see if that calls something to action.
>>42491824Fiji's government hesitates to remove them because they're a key to the local economy now.
>>42492018>95% of humans are genuine cattle who can't make it through the day without a group to belong to.But not you anon, you're so cool. Alpha, giga chad.
