I am at the point that I doubt the existence of anything but myself. Why even doubt my own existence? It is seemingly concrete. I am God? Or at least the closest thing to it.So why doubt the existence of others? It's not that I want to - it's that their "existence" feels more akin to a dream or an apparition. They feel real. You can interact with them. But there's nothing concrete binding. They are akin to a tulpic existence. A tulpa. A thought manifestation. So they feel real, look real, and seem real - but their "existence" is just that. A thought in the mind. They exist WITHIN my mind but not externally.So it's arguable they do not exist at all. They are just my consciousness interacting with itself."The Boltzmann brain thought experiment suggests that it is probably more likely for a brain to spontaneously form, complete with a memory of having existed in our universe, rather than for the entire universe to come about in the manner cosmologists think it actually did. "The Botlzmann brain theory is basically just solipsism and is an explanation of sorts. I am a universal mind. Or really, just the universe itself. "Coming on as itself." I am all matter arranged in this specific way, and it can arrange in an infinite amount of ways. Also, using this framework the universe = god. See, what I would really "pinpoint" myself as is the nothingness behind the universe. I am nothing but here I am being something.To me all of this is true. It has to be. And if it isn't I have been hoodwinked by cosmic jesters.
we definitely exist...<.<>.>
>>42498376Can't use the mind, senses, or memory to prove themselves nor each other. Likewise object permanence has to be taken on faith alone. Object permanence is the first trick played by the veil. If it can get you to assume that, it can get you to believe anything.
>>42498376>no u are my manifestationSocialize anon, leave this site, you're on the path of psycosis
>>42498376you are a faggot gulping nigger dicksbut since you're the only thing that exists...then why are you calling yourself a faggot gulping nigger dicks? is this actually true?also why are you asking yourself these questions? are you alright?please stop gulping nigger dicks and talking to yourself as if it's not yourself
Ok tard, if you’re a God then why are you manifesting a dirty room and an empty bank account? Do better.
>>42498376If the world was solipsistic I would control my reality, the fact that I can experience undesirable, unwanted stimuli that make me unhappy is proof that my consciousness doesn't control my reality and my reality is controlled by a consciousness that is separate from mind and hostile to mine. There has to be at least 2 consciousnesses in the world, mine and the one that opposes mine, but there probably aren't more than two.If it's my imagination then I would have control over it and therefore the world and other people, if god's imagination is separate from mine then we're separate entities and it obviously is separate or I would have the same degree of control over the world as I do over my imagination. Not to mention my imagination is self-(ego)-centred whereas in real life I only get abused by others, their egos dominate mine meaning their egos are separate from my imagination, if it was MY imagination controlling reality then my reality would be as ego-self-centred as my imagination instead of being centred around the egos of others.
>>42498681Hostility and adversity aren’t the same. You need adversity to grow and learn.
But what is the edge of yourself? Where is the border where your self ends and non-self begins? It's subjective. You can consider yourself to be the whole universe. Or you can just call your mind "self". Or call the whole universe "mind". But this all is just a word-play. And does any of this even matter?
>>42498681God' is a bitch for brutally niggraping my mind in the level of the Goosh Goosh meme and thus forcing me into a hellmatrix, as well as forcing me to eat the most vile, gaggable nigg tier niggslop like stews concocted from cockroaches and maggots, semen, and spoiled vegetables. I cannot get even basic foods like plain white bread, white rice, crackers, fresh fruit or even clean water. He also only gives me the ugliest ogre gorilla broads for me as an option to date or wank too, even tho they still reject me for an even uglier hoggoblin tier loser, and also would rather get blue balls then jack to them. The worst thing he does to me though is forcing me to type out very longwinded posts everytime the topic of God is brought up, and even times 'he' is brought up. I hardly have enough time to sleep or eat my niggslop or find broads as most of my time is spent typing up extremely blasphemous and hilarious stereotypically schizophrenic ranting and ramblings. I have typed so much that my fingers have their bones showing.
>>42498776The fact that you're imposing this contradicting belief on me just proves my point, life has demonstrated that "growth" is not your goal in abusing me, "growth" isn't real and wouldn't be an excuse even if it was, being abused just makes me neurotic, hateful, vengeful, anxious, it doesn't do anything positive and you don't have any positive intentions in abusing me, the negative mental conditions that you inflict on me is a large part of the reason why you abuse me and this isn't growth, using "learning" as an excuse is also retarded when you're making an argument about solipsism because in a solipsistic world I would already know everything I can know and nobody would be able to teach me anything because they wouldn't be able to know more than me.
>>42498376If they are your/ in your / manifestations / creations of your mind then they are you too, so if you think “they dont exist” then you dont exist. Youre seeing it in a creepy way “everyone is a npc” which is just a lame way to view life. All is mind you can see it however you want. Anything is possible.
Who cares if someone is “hostile” towards you what are you a fucking pussy. Growing up is awesome you dont care about “hostiles” cause you know they are just retards spazzing out. Start being more grateful in life. You have a bad attitude. Who made you have a bad attitude towards life? Who made you feel so small in life you think like this? Its not normal. Are you really going to fall victim to a narrative a bunch of assholes, grifters, and mentally unwell people tell about the world? Have you really fallen THAT low that you can’t recognize your own divinity and also OTHERS divinity? I dunno man I would change the channel in your mind. Shift your paradigm. Change your attitude.Stop being a bitch and blaming everything and everyone for what you dont have in life. Get off your ass. Touch grass.Love us!!!!!!!!
>>42499018Holy fuck this is a retarded post, this just demonstrates how much of a retarded evil tranny you are, you tell retarded lies that have zero credibility whatsoever that you actively demonstrate are lies all day every day constantly then when your lies are challenged (not hard) you resort to threats and insults because you know you're just a retarded evil liar who abuses me because you're a retarded sadistic tranny not because you're righteous in any way and not because it can be justified in any way, you're just a retarded evil tranny.Living in poverty being dominated and abused by a retarded tranny hivemind, getting my mind raped by a retarded tranny hivemind every second of every day and being gangstalked and terrorized, harassed, abused, threatened etc for literally anything I think or do with literally anything and everything you consider the slightest "desirable" violently gatekept from me including things as petty as corn chips and instant noodles including in my literal imagination as you rape my mind every second of every day and abuse, harass, terrorize, threaten, etc me for literally anything I think or do. What do I have to be grateful for retard? Being forced to exist against my will as the sole frame of reference for material reality and only persistently real person on earth so that you can abuse me through everyone else you control as a retarded tranny hivemind so you cam self-identify as "a king" by identifying with the people you abuse me through and forcing me to live and identify as "a peasant" including in my literal imagination as you rape my mind every second of every day and abuse, harass, terrorize, threaten etc me for literally anything I think or do?
>>42498376It's complicated but yeah I think so It's one mind playing many mask But each mask is the same person Time and space don't exsist
>>42499018Sounds like an npc response from the system admin
>>42498376anon, i hate to tell you but you dont exist either.lets break it down.a long time ago a sperm met an egg. no. wait. lets go further. a long time ago, a series of proteins were assembled into a sperm by dna-driven cellular processes- no wait, lets go further. a really long time ago, in the heart of a star, helium fused to form carbon- no wait, lets go further. in the beginning, god said there be light. and there was light and it was good. Now from the light came the stars, and from the stars the elements, and from the elements matter, and from the matter man, and from the man the sperm and the egg, and then you, anon. but you're not that egg or that sperm. yet you are not a thing distinct from them, except as we see you or you see yourself. for you profess "I am" and nothing emerges to contradict it. But it stands alone without proof of nonduality, as a remarked statement in the darkness, as a ripple on the pond. the ripple remarks the pond exists. so, your body decays, new cells emerge but which are them are you?are you the you that you are when unconcious? on mind-altering chemicals? sleep-walking? If you dont remember it, was it you who did it?Where in your body is the "you"? in the brain. ok, so where in the brain, exactly? you point to organelle, and i will repeat the question. I will continue until you admit that you do not exist except as a state of mind, and that you never needed to exist distinguished from the body-awareness-of-existence-as-unified-present that was called a self, and there was never any ego to kill, only a theory about fundemental motivations in the human instinct-intellect industrial complex for war on othermind and otherbody.SO, no, you do not exist, in fact, you never have, and you always will, and you are dying every minute and being reborn constantly, you will live forever and will never have existed, all at the same time and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>42500357i exist more than you do though
>>42498681what is with this copy-paste spam anytime solipsism gets a thread now?
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>>42500460It's an objective factual proof against solipsism that has no counterargument because its objectively factually true.
solipsism and "brain-in-a-vat" are the toughest arguments for philosophers to disprove. even decartes couldn't get around this challenge.as for whether other minds exist...after a certain age you realize: who cares? most ppl are NPCs (from your perspective) and all of their problems are their own. that's why the "not my problem" saying is so useful and popular now. once these fucking NPCs try to get you to help them, you are expending resources for often no benefit to you. so the practical position to take is that it does not matter if other minds exist. i am told there are millions of ppl living in France right now, but since i'm not there, it's none of my business. i've been to France, and while I was there I could engage with these people, but while i'm not there, it's almost as if France does not exist. am i going to CLAIM that it does not exist? no of course not. but it's not within my local experience right now, i don't have any friends or family in france, so it's totally not relevant to me at all.you are a limited, finite being, with the ability to imagine and comprehend more, but you cannot perceive all of it like an infinite mind could. thus, focus on your local experience. your mind your immediate life. social media will try to get you to do the opposite.t. gradumacated with a BA phil degree
>>42500460Copy-paste threads deserve copy-paste replies.
>>42498376Yes and we are you.
>>42501389Solipsism is not remotely hard to disprove because the lack of control over reality, the general non-ego-self-centred nature of reality compared to fantasies which are controlled by me (and centred entirely around my ego), the ability of other people to impose their will upon me are objective proofs against solipsism
>>42498376No. You can’t even will a single hair to grow on your head.It’s a far more terrifying realisation, and far more true, when it truly hits you that you are alive, you didn’t ask to be alive, and you are here, perceiving being, and you are not in control of it whatsoever. It’s just here. As are you.The closest I can describe it is an incredible joy at the fact you’re alive, at the gift of life, yet at the same time a holy dread and terror of the sheer power of God.
Its a fact, but how useful that fact is is a huge personal undertaking.Solipsism is kind of like arguing why is god evil when we barely know how god thinks or works. The self is the same. There is a you reading this, the one thinking and posting. I'll call this the Super You. How can you be certain that the Super You is all you are? Think of stuff like your subconscious mind. How can you be sure there aren't other similar things, sub systems and elements that operate that aren't quite the Super You, but may in fact be a crucial part to even allow the Super You to exist? Are we just energy fields? Are we just fragments of God? Egyptians said that the soul is composed of about 5 - 7 parts that make you up, with the Super You only really existing due to those parts coloration. Does stuff like Plato's forms come from some part of you? If we are Braham, how much of the Super You is that if any at all? I could list all sorts of theories and beliefs on what the self is and it wouldn't answer anything conclusively. As many people tirelessly say every single time in these threads the Super You doesn't seem to be able to instantly and effortlessly change reality. But that doesn't mean Solipsism is false. Its just that the complete total you is likely comprised of so much more then just the Super You reading this. The Super You's intentions alone aren't enough, there's greater parts needed to achieve anything. Some argue the system is so complex it defeats the purpose of solipsism in the first place as the puny Super You could never understand or utilize the rest of it. Others say that its the Super You is in charge even if it doesn't know how and you just need to let the rest of you take care of it with out the Super You worrying about it. All we can do is try to expand our awareness of our entire self. Our Super You can change the subconscious for example, surely there's ways we can impact other parts of ourself positively too. Its all you, but you is very complex.
While some people are lacking in the mind department. You can be pretty sure other people have minds. For all the differences in us with personality traits and fashion choices we're all pretty much the same.
>>42498376Just be a solipsist about the Self. Bodhisattvas don't believe in Others (or the Self) but they have compassion or karuna and loving-kindness (Maitreya) by means of a mechanism.
Imagine a solipsism club meeting. It'd just be a bunch of people who think they're the center of the universe.
>>42503503Kill them and prove yourself right
>>42503522I'm going to have to ask you to expand on that logic there. Especially the part where I'm one person and a bunch of people is more than one person. Or are you talking about yourself, and how you really just want to kill everyone other than yourself?
>>42502848This just degrades the concept of "self", things that aren't part of my form aren't me and they prove it when they oppose my will or especially impose their opposing will upon me
>>42504751>when they oppose my willBut the you reading this opposes yourself all the time. We all get rage baited and loop dump thoughts over and over. Our emotions aren't always so easily swayed. Its like sadness for example, why would I ever willing chose to be sad? Its awful. Yet it happens right, am I opposing myself when that happens? Sadness couldn't possibly be me as I don't will for it. So who is feeling like shit when they feel sad? If you continue to say that every single thing that isn't 100% in your control isn't you, you'll eternally demote yourself to a powerless nothing that can only ever react to external stimuli.
>>42498376Bruh.why did you have to post this?i feel I am already on a short leash. increasingly with nowhege to go. It's so fukin lonely. My ego doesn't want to give up the ghost. It seems to terrifying.nothing but me. Fuck.
Every single counter argument itt is fake and gay. It's embarrassing. Exactly like confronting a dream character in the dream world, now that I think about it.
>>42506100This is kind of a dumb example because you're basically using the fact that opposing egos can make me feel bad as an argument that actually I control the opposing egos, obviously the fact that other egos can impose their opposing will on me and cause me to react negatively to their negative impositions is evidence that other people are separate from me
>>42507581Control over others wasn't the main point of what I was trying to say. I was trying to say that we don't even have complete control of ourselves. You always have the decision on how to feel over things, you're not an animal that just simply reacts to external stimuli with no internal reflection. Of course full mastery is practically some monk level of autism that most of us would hardly be able to get close to. And even if we did it, it doesn't right now seem like it'd give us any way to stop others form imposing stuff to us.I was simply trying to use unwanted emotions as way of suggesting that just because we don't have full control over something, doesn't instantly prove its not us. Because if that were true then at any moment you felt something you didn't intend to, even if that feeling was imposed onus by what feels external/someone else, it'd still imply the feeling itself was a foreign invasive entity. The inverse also says the same thing, something that we have 100% control over should be us right? But as I said most of us don't control our emotions to a complete degree, so are emotions separate to us?And that's what I mean by demoting yourself. Its about perspective, you could say that I'm right and that these unwanted feelings and reactions ARE NOT me they are invasive and separate, therefore they should be discarded and ignored. But you could instead have the perspective that they are in fact your emotions that are apart of whatever we are, and therefore can be controlled. Call me delusion but I'd rather take the second path as it gives me hope/cope that maybe with enough mental strength I could somehow start to amass skill that can change things that feel external,Maybe the problem is we can't skip steps? If the trannies imposing shit to us weren't there then we wouldn't even need to bother with "controlling our emotions" we'd just not have any bad ones in the first place. But I guess if its all us, why can't we just skip ahead? I dunno
>>42501389Only good respone in this thread. What other anons here don't understand either is that solipsism doesn't inherently imply you should have full control of reality.
>>42506236There is no counterargument because solipsism is unfalsifiable. It's not a philosophical stance, it's an acknowledgment of the limit of epistemology.Anyone with a brain recognizes it, sees how boring and what a dead end it is, and move on.There have been dozens of these threads and everyone including me all say the exact same thing over and over.If there no one but you, why are you so BORING??
>>42501389>>42507627>>42507679NPC replies. Literally no one would ever say these things.Solipsism won.
>>42507613The source of unwanted emotions is still external because it comes from lack of control over reality (because reality is external) and other people imposing their harmful, opposing will on me. If you had perfect control over your reality then you'd likely have perfect control over your emotions and never feel unwanted emotions
>>42507627Yes solipsism does imply control over reality because lack of control can only come from an opposing will/ego/mind, if there were no other minds then there would be nothing stopping your mind from controlling reality.
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