Prove to me, show me proof
>>42498839>proof of anything on /x/zozzle
>>42498839Yea sure, I could give you plenty of reasons why porn is sinister. But I think this one thing is enoughResearch who is behind your favourite porn websites and movements, it will quickly become clear
>>42498855Show me reasons why porn is dexter
You ever see any "goon encouragement" videos where they basically try to goad you into losing your mind to lust?It goes way farther on other sites where they encourage you to rape a kid or something similar, it has the subgenre of "accomplice."
>>42498908Show me reasons why you need me to spoon feed you
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>>42498839Women are the root of all evil. Homosexuality is just your weakness needing to make a woman out of a man to try and loophole ascension. Only the Beast can free you from sexual slavery. https://youtu.be/-wSeL22-qPQ?si=jf9qfebI3l3VyL92
>>42498839it's not demonic, it's soul deadening
Porn is made/owned by jewsJews are followers of the devilTherefore porn is a tool of the devilEasy as that
>>42498839>what is loosh for $600
>>42498839You need to first understand what demonic means both theologically and in practice, how it starts, how it proceeds and ultimately what consequences occur for people who are beholden by it. Then you can have the conversation OP. Take the first steps: Look up the suicide attempt rate among porn stars both male and female, look into the rates of drug addiction abd overdoses among porn stars, and lastly look at the statistics surrounding divorce & break up of families where porn addiction had been present as a correlated cause for turmoil. Look at the rates of depression in young men today and look at the rate of porn consumption among young men. Compare that to the rates of depression in men before the decades of the internet porn industry, before computers were ubiquitous in family homes (80's - early 90's.) Notice the spike in misery only sharply increase as internet porn grew in popularity. Notice the plummeting rates of marriage and parenthood among young men and women today, we are now seeing [LESS than half] of all young adults in marriages or starting families. Before internet and porn average age of marriage and family building? 23. Now it's mid 30s. While financial shifts in economy are a major cause for that, it's no secret that men are distracted by porn and their appetite to pair bond is dissolving thanks to the false substitute of dopamine chasing that porn has hooked young men with.Porn is a societal sickness, and you need to start accepting that and then you can dig into the spiritual implications after.
>>42498839Fuck its all over my screen>>42498839
>>42498839So, to try to put it succinctly, demonic media has this property of imitating emotionally extreme reality. Are porn artists really sensual geniuses working from their own experience, or are they drawing on knowledge of sexual depravities that have actually occurred? When you imagine something new, what is actually occurring?
>>42499555Very potent question. OP answer it.
>>42498908I jack off with my right hand.
>>42498839After becoming born again, the few times I relapsed on sexual sin it felt like I was being influenced by demons, I feel a lot of the sleep paralysis ive had in my life was cause I was opening portals to them through sexual sin.
>>42498855Except the crusade against porn is led by the very same people, and there is plenty of porn not under their control
>>42499264Feminist tripe. Men aren't making families because wages are dropping, immigrant labor (which is supported by women btw) undercuts domestic labor, and feminism tells women to be sluts and hate men, and women gladly do so. They think having a monogamous marriage is literally The Handjob's Tale or whatever
Pic of a pentagram on a wall in lesbian Japanese porn. No obvious themes of magic or succubuses AFAIK, so it is rather weird. Not even about goths either.
People will say its sexually immoral, but I think it really depends on what sorta porn you look at too, or the "watchers" will just nitpick anything to make themselves feel in the right or better when some of them are really just bothered at the fact that some of them have to surveil other people jerk off or watch porn for whatever reason, probably fall for easy bait too but i'm sure such watchers would make an effort to twist things up to be in better moral standing as a desperate cope
>>42500018I noticed pornstars have a lot of pornstars too have very questionable and suspicious sigils tattooed on them to the point they look like demonic tattoos and nothing like the ordinary ones.I remember I was fapping to this one chick getting fucked and I saw her demonic tattoo. I had a bad feeling about her tattoo and a choose another porn vid to fap too. Thankfully I quit porn and ever looked back.
>>42500642If you masturbate to "studio" porn with tatted up whores, that's on you. You can find tons of porn on this very website with non-tatted girls (and boys)
The alchemical opposite of lust is fear, and when you use up all your lust for swyers and hollywood trannies you will have no fear left for God. Fear is key in ascension. You can combat lust with fear, and fear with lust. This is why many tribes still continue to reproduce, they're warded by fear and they wanna combat it by fucking and becoming more lowly, bestial, therefore numbing themselves to , spiritual ET exposure.
>>42498839You posted it anon, Sydney is a porn demon much like the rest of that celeb/e-cel contingency in LA NY
>>42498839Easy access to pleasure kills the need to strive for something, destroys the reward system. Then the depths you need to go for to achieve the same pleasure increases. With this you invite demons into your body who will control you to get what the below wants. Also porn in of itself is demonic because they get off to violating the pure.
>>42498966dubs of truth
>>42498839>prove eeeeeet>show me proof
I worked as freelance male pornographic talent a long time ago. Here is a picture I snapped at some kinda spooky devil orgy I worked at once. I will tell you this: there is far far far more typical human trauma and tragedy in the pornographic industry than there is anything criminal, evil, or demonic. But there is crime, there is evil, and there are Demons.
>>42498924That's their default go-to tactic so they can drag you into a mindless rhetorical sparring match and detract from the issue, suck up time, captivate a dumb audience, push agendas, and so on.It's a very clear and easily recognizable pattern, a demonic aka jewish MO.
>>42500768So you can't enjoy anything pleasurable?
The majority of s workers have PTSD and were sexually abused as trauma so you are exploiting their trauma via their hypersexuality
>>42498839can be heavenly
>>42498839There is certainly a lot of demonic symbolism and references.Evil angel, Devils films, Diabolic etc and there are tattoos and costumes that seem to relate to dark occult ideas. Giles in cheerleader outfits with 666 on them and bikinis tied in inverted pentagrams. Not proof but certainly leaning towards the sinister very heavily from a symbolic standpoint
>>42498944Fucking meth heads. You don't hate them enough.
>>42500889Damn anon, that kinda goes hard.
>>42501790"Sexuality is bad because some schizo narcissist jew made a rant"
>>42501873>sexuality is porn
>>42501886"Looking at naked women is evil because jews say the absolute truth"
>>42501913>pixels of naked woman is naked woman>paper with no intrinsic value is real money>trust us goi
>>42501945Your argument doesn't hold water because every payment processor run by (((them))) constantly tries to censor any mention of sexuality.
>>42501945Being pedantic over something that is already established (porn is pictures) is a very jewish trait.
>>42502002This (((guy))) >>42501913 strawmaned my argument twice. Porn is not looking at naked women. Porn is looking at hundreds of pictures and videos of naked women. Look up supernormal stimulus. >>42501990>every payment processor run by (((them))) constantly tries to censor any mention of sexuality.Alright, you got me. Is OnlyFans affected? Is PornHub affected? This isn't about puritanism. It's about control and digital ID. The weeb drawing a romance anime in japan gets the full force of the banking cartel upon them, but you still have all the queer and bbc videos you could ever want.
>>42502050>supernormal stimulus
>>42500732>>42498839trust me, when a specific demon woman takes control via sex magic it's over
>>42502050>Porn is looking at hundreds of pictures and videos of naked women. Look up supernormal stimulus.That's self-control. Is alcohol evil too because people can become alcoholics. Obviously, anything consumed in excess is bad for you. Even something as innocuous as video games can be bad for you in excess. Caffeine can give you a heart attack, are the Mormons suddenly right?>Alright, you got me. Is OnlyFans affected? Is PornHub affected? This isn't about puritanism. It's about control and digital ID. The weeb drawing a romance anime in japan gets the full force of the banking cartel upon them, but you still have all the queer and bbc videos you could ever want.Wow, it's almost like porn itself isn't the issue, and only specific types of porn made by specific people, is bad. It's also almost like porn panics give governments excuses for control and Digital ID. This current shit wouldn't fly if tradcucks didn't make looking at naked women into a moral panic.
>>42502075> It's also almost like porn panics give governments excuses for control and Digital ID. Yes. I fully agree that the digital control grid they want to implement outweighs whatever benefit they shill for it. Making porn is demonic, but keeping the kids away from it is the job of the parent, not the government. >This current shit wouldn't fly if tradcucks didn't make looking at naked women into a moral panicBut are you sure they're tradcucks? I've seen these so-called "christians" popping up like mushrooms right after DEI and anti-racism started going out of fashion. And conveniently they're still advocating for more government control. I don't think they're christians. They're just the same fags with a new coat of paint.
>>42498839In the world of DMT is viewed as something that contains black goo.Black goo represents lower forms of energy/negative energy.A dude once wanted to jerk off while high but he saw black goo coming out of the screen..
My take is this. All lust is egoic in nature as it pertains to strengthening a core narrative or perception of the self in the mind of the spectator. They've been normalizing things that we used to call sinful or perverted so that all institutions which aim to uphold a sense of moral righteousness are defeated. Make it cool or "hip" to be gay. Make it cool to abort your children. Make it ok to renounce God in order to scapegoat him as your oppressor. Make it ok to demonize straight white men. Don't stop until you have inverted everything. Evil is now good and good is now evil. As above, so below. As within, so without. Don't strive for the attainment of higher spiritual pursuits. Just feed your dopamine receptors until you drop dead. COSUME CONSUME CONSUME. Who's it all benefitting? Somes soulless hook nosed faggot at the top of the counterfeit realm you call reality.
>>42502125>Making porn is demonicWhat about the anime romance you just mentioned? Or anything outside OnlyFans and Pornhub? We're talking about porn in general, not "this specific type of porn">But are you sure they're tradcucks?I saw a council of Catholics support an "Age Verification" bill. I saw tradcucks defend it on twitter too. They very much do exist.
>>42502139>council of CatholicsLook (((whose))) funding it. I'm telling you this thing is a recent phenomenon. Not organic at all. >What about the anime romance you just mentionedYeah, that's bad too. Doesn't get the same loosh as real people. And doesn't spike your dopamine as bad. But it's still used as a form of escapism. People are lonely, they can't form real connections and relationships, and porn is the bandaid. I say it's demonic, but that doesn't mean I want the government to control and monitor what I am and am not allowed to watch. The painter had a different set of solutions to the porn problem.
>>42502180If you're not mentally self-inserting, that's on you>I say it's demonicLmfao, that's ridiculous, but it shows where it always ends up, demonization of any expression of sexuality. Collective Shout all over again. Tradcucks are just feminists in disguise.
>>42502194>demonization of any expression of sexuality>What Bonnie Blue is doing is the same as what your grandparents did when they were datingJew.
>>42502214>Obviously misrepresenting what I'm sayingJew.
>>42502194Pornography is inherently homosexual. A majority of trans people are self identified coomers.
>>42502234Okay, and a good portion are autistic and play video games. Does that make any of those homosexual? Also how is looking at naked women gay, that's like the least gay thing in existence.
>>42502180>"Haha you guys are cucks, but I'm trad and based, I do long-term chastity/orgasm denial, and only cum when a woman wants me to. That's what being an alpha male is all about!"
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>>42502244It's gay because nearly all of the male performers are gay. It's gay because you're stimulating yourself to a video focused primarily on the woman's ecstasy as she gets railed by a roided out faggit. It's gay because real straight men don't need to watch porn because real sex is not porn and real women don't want a porn brained man. The more you watch it the more desensitized you become making you more inclined to pursue increasingly degenerate content. Before you know it you're taking estrogen and dressing like a bimbo. Then you're fucking men because women find you repulsive. Ask yourself why there has been an explosion of gender dysphoria/transexuals. It's because of porn 100%. All egoic spiritual rot. All by design. Keep gooning faggit. God is dead. Satan is your master. Enjoy.
>>42502299You can say that about anything though. I don't need mental games to know I'm White
>>42502305>The more you watch it the more desensitized you become making you more inclined to pursue increasingly degenerate content. Before you know it you're taking estrogen and dressing like a bimbo. Then you're fucking men because women find you repulsive.Unironically skill issue. This never happened to me, or many other people. Statistically, the amount of people who watch porn then troon out are probably under 1%. Troons are still statistically rare. Obviously "porn addiction" is an excuse for guys who had gay fantasies, so they blame the porn so they have something to blame. This is just like "DOOM causes violence!" or "Metal music makes you a satanist!" arguments.
>>42502322Nta but it typically happens to autists. Autists have a hard time separating identity from experience. No clue why that is but it's true. As for non-autists the ones who don't troon out, like you or me, it can still fuck with us mentally anyway. I can't speak for you obviously but for me in the height of my porn consumption it certainly did bring a lot of fetishes to the fore. None of them gay or degenerate, all straight fetishes, but all of them played off of traumatic shit I endured in upbringing. Porn is so normalized now so bit many people stop to remember that Fetishes and fetishism counts for sexual disorder. The lines become blurry when disorder becomes normalized, people struggle to see the disorder and instead think it is order. That's what makes porn so insidious, it acts as a medium that largely preys in and depends upon your sexual dysfunctions or emotional or mental woundings that your mind has tried to control via libido through fetishism. And the porn production industry makes money off of it, off of you off of me off of everyone. Whether you pay for porn or skip the ad, it's revenue. And the porn actresses and actors, those poor sons and daughters of bitches, they're the personality disordered molested kids that go into the industry because they already normalized the life of being used as a cock sleeve since being a kid. They just take money for it to make ends meet, and we unwittingly jerk to it, playing as audience to their fucked up lives. It's like a chain of parasitical proportion. The industry preys on us, and we prey on the actors. And it is all fueled by suffering and disgrace and our minds are only hooked to it to gain sexual control over it to cope. The entire enterprise of porn is a mockery of human suffering.
>>42502372This just seems like a reminder to treat your traumas and mental disorders. If something triggers those traumas/disorders, it's not the fault of the thing that triggered it.>That's what makes porn so insidious, it acts as a medium that largely preys in and depends upon your sexual dysfunctions or emotional or mental woundings that your mind has tried to control via libido through fetishism. And the porn production industry makes money off of it, off of you off of me off of everyone. Whether you pay for porn or skip the ad, it's revenue. And the porn actresses and actors, those poor sons and daughters of bitches, they're the personality disordered molested kids that go into the industry because they already normalized the life of being used as a cock sleeve since being a kid.This only applies to studio porn. It's like saying movies are evil in concept because Hollywood is evil.>The entire enterprise of porn is a mockery of human suffering.Not for me because apparently I'm the most mentally healthy person on the planet.
>>42502322Metal music DOES turn you into a satanist thougheverbeit.
>>42502387/x/ is now just a bunch of middle-aged women watching Lifetime
>>42502391>Anon defends metal>Anon defends porn which is satanic>Anon is therefore a satanic metalhead >Anon complains that you're a middle aged woman because he can't confront his own cognitive dissonanceOne such case
>>42502383If you are hooked to porn, you're hooked to porn. There can be no treatment of personal woes or mental maladies or psychological woundings so long as porn is consumed. The word trauma from old Greek means "Wound". Porn is a vinegar on that wound, it does not heal the wound, only burn it and prolongs the ache. >This only applies to studio porn. It's like saying movies are evil in concept because Hollywood is evil.It applies to all porn. Because the nature of porn, whether it's hentai or amateur porn or studio porn, it's all the same root problem. It's the exploitation of fantasy by using reality to blur the line of fantasy. That's why people addicted to porn experience high levels of cognitive dissonance, they end up confusing fantasy for reality and vice versa. Not on a large scale, they're still sane and not crazy or anything. But for this one aspect of life, of sexuality and sexual function, they are insane. It really is as bad as feared, the social damage is incalculable as far as sex lives go. For example, I would say almost 80% of all men and women no longer make love. They no longer have sensual romantic amorous pairbonding sex. Instead they just "fuck". And they learned that from porn and the culture of porn.
>>42502406>It's the exploitation of fantasy by using reality to blur the line of fantasy. That's why people addicted to porn experience high levels of cognitive dissonance, they end up confusing fantasy for reality and vice versa. Not on a large scale, they're still sane and not crazy or anything. But for this one aspect of life, of sexuality and sexual function, they are insane.That's pre-existing mental illness. There was a woman who killed her kid because she thought spongebob wanted her to. Are you going to say Spongebob creates mental illness? What about Catcher in the Rye?
>>42502403Yeah, it's super based and Godly to have the outlook of a middle-aged woman. I bet you think videogames cause school shootings too>Anon defends porn which is satanicI don't think it's inherently satanic, so your message doesn't work
Trads be like "Is that a woman without clothes?! I am literally going insane!!!!!11!!!
>>42502420That isn't mental illness in what I described, that's just the human mind being the human mind. The human mind has a partition to separate reality from fantasy. You aren't thinking hard enough. Porn is the medium where it takes fantasy and recreates it in reality. It is the every thing that breaks the separation, the industry is the sickness. The porn industry does this because it is using real humans, real flesh, real souls, real minds to see the job done. It uses your real sex drive and your real hand and your real eyes and your real genitalia to play with the fantasy. It blurs the lines by itself. And even if we say you are right that it's all just pre-existing mental illness. You are still defending an industry that openly preys on the vulnerable for money. Either way it's a fucked practice
>>42502444>Porn is the medium where it takes fantasy and recreates it in reality.You can say that about almost any visual media.
>>42502420Could you BE anymore of a disingenuous jew?
>>42502450The feeling is mutual, jew
>>42502430Almost everything is satanic except for super fucking holy things like chastity and humility and poverty. Porn is just like, EXTREMELY satanic. Not kind of satanic like most other things. The fact that you don't think so is the most obvious Jewish thing about you. I'll let these other fags argue with you, I'm done. I don't waste my time on kikes pushing degeneracy
>>42502449>You can say that about almost any visual media.You absolutely cannot. You know that you can't because you know full well which medium deliberately and explicitly provokes your sex drive and which doesn't. You know which medium is showing you full frontal nudity and hardcore penetration and sodomy and which doesn't. You know there is a difference between watching a TV show or movie like Sopranos or Godfather Vs. "Slut next door takes it up the ass vol. 22".Porn as a medium directly and purposefully targets your base level subconscious sex drive your libido, it deliberately targets the parts of your mind that your conscious mind doesn't have full control over. Anyone who tries to act above their own sexual impulse is lying to themselves. That's the cognitive dissonance that porn normalizes, it pretends you have conscious control over things lie sex drive. But that is not how it works in reality.In reality it works like hunger or thirst or tiredness. You can never truly control when those impulses arrive or when they depart. Sex drive is the same. It is a deep part of human coding that should not be exploited or preyed on by giant corporations or industries. Porn does exactly that. And those fooled by it always say the same thing, they claim they are the special exception who is unaffected and can quit any time, they talked exactly like drug addicts
>>42502462>Almost everything is satanic except for super fucking holy things like chastity and humility and poverty.So then what's the point of arguing about this? You're saying almost everything in the universe except for a handful of concepts is sinful.
>>42502471So the whole "porn is evil!" thing is just more demonization of the sex drive. Whatever you say, Anita Sarkessian.
>>42502486It's not demonization of sex drive. The fact that you yourself assumed this shows you can't even separate porn from sex. Porn is not sex. And sex is not evil. Sex is good, the orgasm is good, breasts are good, the female form is good the male form is good. I am not a feminist I am a Christian. God does not see sex as evil. Sex and orgasms and the attraction for the human form is something God had deliberately instilled in us. It is by design and intended, there is nothing evil about sex. I will even give you scripture to prove it.>"Let her be as a loving hind and graceful doe, Let her breasts refresh and satisfy you at all times; Always be exhilarated and delight in her love"Proverbs 5:18.We are told to sit back, relax, and enjoy the female form in sex. Nothing is evil about sex or sex drive, anon. God ordained it for a reason. The problem is the exploitation and misuse of these sacred behaviours, when we commodify it, cheapen it, introduce pain or suffering or fetishes based on mental traumas to it, when we exploit it to replace it's function of love bonding to boredom killing. It ruins it and that has consequences for humans.
>>42502506Well, it's good to see a Christian who does not fear his God-given desires. The problem is, you're taking traumas and shady business practices, and saying porn is inherently those things
>>42502486It's a hijacking of the sex drive. The only thing you're getting out of this is wet tissues and wasted energy on some pixels. Enjoy your goy cage. The pixels are very pretty.
>>42502527How does it "hijack it" if I was horny before? I'm still the same person with the same desires.
>>42502532In the society of even a few decades ago, you could have used that hornyness to make something, maybe even get an actual mate and have sex. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma4VZ7rxGOwNow you have an easy out. We all do. We turn to dust in pleasant, lonely dreams.
>>42502553How do you "make something" with hornyness?>maybe even get an actual mate and have sex."The pinnacle of life is female approval"
>>42502510Porn is inherently those things. Money is the bottom line, you feel alone or feel horny or feel compelled by a fetish? The porn medium scratches the itch. They get money, either through direct payment or ad revenue in whatever website you used. You are human livestock who they made money from in a socially distant way, that's how they regard you. And for the actors and actresses make and female they are dehumanized even further. Porn shows you to your face that it's only interest is to reduce the human being down to nothing but flesh and that's it. There's a reason why no one tunes in to listen to the feelings or life or goals or hopes and dreams of the women getting screwed. No one cares about the porn star man and his ambitions or his fears or what he wants to achieve in his legacy or anything, he's just a human dildo for a scene. It's shady business anon because the industry knows it does this, it doesn't care, it just wants money and wants you to waste your sex drive that should be used on a real woman you love.
>>42502560>The porn medium scratches the itch. They get money, either through direct payment or ad revenue in whatever website you used. You are human livestock who they made money from in a socially distant way, that's how they regard you.You could say the same thing if I bought a backscratcher/itch cream for a literal itch.>Porn shows you to your face that it's only interest is to reduce the human being down to nothing but flesh and that's it. There's a reason why no one tunes in to listen to the feelings or life or goals or hopes and dreams of the women getting screwed. No one cares about the porn star man and his ambitions or his fears or what he wants to achieve in his legacy or anything, he's just a human dildo for a scene. It's shady business anon because the industry knows it does this, it doesn't care, it just wants money and wants you to waste your sex drive that should be used on a real woman you love.Welcome to capitalism.
>>42502560Make and female*Male and female. And I want to stress I am not a feminist, I would argue porn has damaged men the most, we took the worst of the damage from this particular social sickness. Men typically do not enjoy asking for help, we don't want to scream in pain or suffering. We bottle it up and we keep taking the kicking. And men have collectively been kicked abd kicked and kicked by porn.
>>42502566Am I the only one who hasn't been "kicked" by porn? I feel like I'm going insane with people talking about how nekkid ladies destroyed their lives. Next up, Ice Cream gave me schizophrenia
>>42502565>Welcome to capitalism.Yes yes. In Christian theology the demon of capitalism has a name, Mammon. And the demon of lust is Asmodeus. Combine the two forces and you get pornography. Whether you want to see those demons as real entities or symbols for social sickness is up to you.
>>42498839Its primary intent is to arouse, to cause lust for its own sake or as an aid to masturbation. Both of these are misuses of the sexual faculty, a potent and holy power within life granted by God, that allows them to make new life (Be fruitful and multiply). This is supposed to be used for procreation within the sacrament of marriage. Masturbation and habitual lust (sought intentionally), is a deliberate violation of Gods law and order, and turns your will away from God and onto yourself. Meaning you’re turned away from the source of life (life) and towards the source of death (sin, the flesh). If you don’t want the theological explanation, just look at what porn does to people. What type of vile people are in the industry. Who’s pushing it. What the effects of it have been on society and humanity. By their fruits ye shall know them.
>>42502575So if I purchase a cheeseburger, is that Beelzebub and Asmodeus working together, and cheeseburgers are actually an evil plague on our society? After all, it's my bodily desires that led me to that cheeseburger
>>42502585>source of life (life)God*
>>42502573As I said people who get kicked by porn never feel kicked. That's what normalization entails. If porn addicts felt distress around porn, they'd not be porn addicts. That's the point. When you are in the throes of porn influence, you won't feel bothered and will be nice and quiet and comfortable. You don't see the cost of it until a decade or so later, after you've counted your losses. It's like a leech or parasite. 1ml of blood is nothing. Let the leech draw blood for year or decades, it adds up, by the time you take issue with the leech, you've lost a lot of blood, too much. And your mental and/or spiritual constitution will reflect that lifeless damage at that point.I thought the same way as you did when I started porn consumption, the exact same. I know the rationalizations like the back of my hand. After all, I was looking at the back of my hand a lot kek. Ultimately I can't and won't expect you to change your mind over 4chan posts. Just remember what I have shared if or when you get in too deep and you want to call upon information to help you see clear on the day things get dark. Ok?
>>42502558>"The pinnacle of life is female approval"You could go celibate. You're still wring your monkey brain to female approval. Only without any actual results. >How do you "make something" with hornyness?You make something with the life energy that you'd otherwise waste on hornyness. If you stop tricking your monkey brain into thinking you mated and you don't need to do shit anymore, you start to realize what a piece of shit goycattle you actually are and start working towards not being one. I can guarantee you the guy who build this didn't fap or watch porn.
>>42502586Buying a cheeseburger is not demonic. It may not even be a sin. At the worst, it’s a failure of temperance and bodily stewardship. If you are healthy and in control of yourself it is spiritually harmless.When we say this demon is that of lust, or greed or whatever, we mean that is the sin they push the most. We have exorcisms where demons have identified themselves as “Murder”, “Wrath”, etc. Demons tempt you. I don’t know what their exact methods of operation are in the modern world because I’m not them and I’m not God. I am but a man. But God never allows you to be tempted more than you can bear.
>>42502596So it's just a "trust me bro?">Just remember what I have shared if or when you get in too deep and you want to call upon information to help you see clear on the day things get dark. Ok?Ok, I agree to this.
>>42502599>Only without any actual results.The result is scratching an "itch">You make something with the life energy that you'd otherwise waste on hornyness. If you stop tricking your monkey brain into thinking you mated and you don't need to do shit anymore, you start to realize what a piece of shit goycattle you actually are and start working towards not being one. I can guarantee you the guy who build this didn't fap or watch porn.I must be different, because I don't get my inspiration/energy from mere mating desires.
>>42502608>Ok, I agree to thisBased. And try to forgive any Christians who may come at you with accusation or demonization of you. I'm Christian myself, never used to be was always atheist most my life. I know how annoying it can be to hear the holier than thou zealotry. Forgive them because they're usually people who fall for the same sin and project guilt onto others who do the same sin. You are not demonic or evil yourself. No human being is, we are all images of God. We can practice evil and in our actions do evil, but it doesn't make us evil entirely. We are all seeking peace, happiness, love, in some way or another. God bless and have a good one, and respect to you for engaging in the convo
>>42502599>The pinnacle of life is female approvalThis is the core tenant of Ishtarism. An ancient Near Eastern cult that has raised its ugly head under many different names in the West.The primary delusion is seeing the woman as the source of life. The woman is the selector, who contains the magical ability within her to create new life. Thus the woman (the goddess), must be placated, in order to allow a man (her servants/priests), access to her for the purposes of transmitting his genes. The woman is the final arbitrer of right and wrong. The woman must always be listened to. The sexual whims of the female are inherently right and noble by their own nature. Her, in her caprice, is the mistress of life and death.However, the true source of life, is God. He is eternal, the source of all. Pure act and being. From him do we gain life. From him are we ensouled. Every moment is sustained by God. In him we live, move and have our being. The true source of human life is the masculine Logos. The principle of life - Christ. The spoken Word. John 1:1 Matthew 4:4
>>42502623Thank you, God bless you too.And I do want to say, I do believe heavily in temperance. Temperance is what seperates biblical wine drinking from an alcoholic. Temperance is needed in almost anything, especially if it's outwardly pleasurable.>However, the true source of life, is God. He is eternal, the source of all. Pure act and being. From him do we gain life. From him are we ensouled. Every moment is sustained by God. In him we live, move and have our being. The true source of human life is the masculine Logos. The principle of life - Christ. The spoken Word.Amen>This is the core tenant of Ishtarism. An ancient Near Eastern cult that has raised its ugly head under many different names in the West.>The primary delusion is seeing the woman as the source of life. The woman is the selector, who contains the magical ability within her to create new life. Thus the woman (the goddess), must be placated, in order to allow a man (her servants/priests), access to her for the purposes of transmitting his genes. The woman is the final arbitrer of right and wrong. The woman must always be listened to. The sexual whims of the female are inherently right and noble by their own nature. Her, in her caprice, is the mistress of life and death.It is a shame so many in the West unknowingly follow this religion.
>>42502627Nta. I'm a Christian as well though.The woman in Christian theology is "Helper". That's what woman translates as such in old Hebrew (עֵזֶר). "Ezer". The goal of the woman is to help the man get to heaven. And the man leads her there in return, both climbing to God in partnership and reciprocity, yet also with a divine order where the man is the spiritual head of the home, the woman the spiritual body, and the children the spiritual heart.
>>42498839Lmao.
>>42502639Indeed. Ishtarism/woman worship (even incels by their own nature and definition, and behaviour worship female approval), is a distortion of the females primary role as mother to children and partner to man. Female worship is to venerate the life giving properties of the woman, above the ordered, structured, masculine Logos/Word (God, incarnate as Christ). It’s idolatry, putting women over God, by whom we live and breathe.
Or simpler put. It’s the worship of carnal generation. The generation of physical body by the woman, as opposed to the generation of consciousness and reality itself by God. Flesh over spirit.
>>42500018Notice what they place in the background or what they give the girls to wear, like crucifixes. They also give some girls temporary christianity themed tatoos like crosses. Some are given classic „mom“ tatoos like birthday dates and „forever love my little [name]“. Some actresses have quotes like „jesus saves“ or „never give up“, statements that become ridiculous in this context. Nothing is an accident in these high production videos, as it is with movies. It’s subliminary demoralization. I noticed theye things many years ago but I barely watch anything anymore. It became boring compared to visualization and is an absolute waste of time. This shit has lost all power over me. Maybe because I have seen it all already. All this filth can vanish from the face of the earth and it wouldn’t affect me. But I was in it’s spell for many years
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>>42502670Yep. I used to be one such man who did that, I got better, thanks to my renewed relationship to God and by His grace. I have a wife and kids now. By no means am I sinless or perfect but I no longer allow sin to dictate my agency any more. I think that the reason young men are prone to what you call "ishtar worship". It happens because of lots of things, we could blame men or blame women or blame Satan. Ultimately Satan is the one who is behind it all. However, the demons, all they do is hand us the rope. It is us who hang ourselves with the rope of temptation. And the reason young men do this is because before the temptation, there is a void, a wound. One which porn and/or other sins infect. I find that the answer is to focus on the void, and the reparation of it, and porn is out of a job in a young man's life, and can no longer infect a man. So the question is how the void gets there in the first place. Why do young men resort to "Ishtar" worship, why do they obsessively seek the woman in lust hazed fervor? It's to run away from the void. That void is because of a distinct lack of father role modeling. It is because their fathers typically would not or could not guide them or ingratiate them into manhood. Embodying either a tyrannical fatherhood role model, or even worse, none at all. Either teaching their son pain or teaching him nothing. And the reason that happens is because of the world. Men can rarely father children now. They can create them and procreate it. But to actually guide, mentor structure and raise him? That's time. And in this day and age, time is money. And the world has suffocated all of man's time now, almost purposely, to ensure children are not longer raised by fathers but instead by the powers of government or state or nation. So, 81% of all young men report a struggling relationship to fathers. Doesn't even have to be a bad father or evil one, just a lack of connection. And so the young men run to momma, mentally. To porn.
>>42502838What porn are you watching?!
>>42502850Hello Anon, you seem really knowledgeable so I wanted to ask you for advice. I am haunted by sexual fantasies of my mother but with more sexualized features and I also have intrusive thoughts urging me to blaspheme the Holy Spirit so I can severe my connection with God and sin freely. I feel empty, I don't feel remorse when I sin and essentially feel souless. What's wrong with me?Oh, and how should I treat my relationship with the paranormal? I love this topic but sometimes it seems like it attracts demons even more but at the same time it gives me more insight about them
>>42503007Hey thanks for reaching out. I can instantly tell you without hesitation that what's wrong is first off you are identifying with the wrongness. Do not say 'what is wrong with me' this only ensures you remain captive to the problem for longer, so just frame it as "what is wrong".Second off scrupulosity is gnawing at your heels. What modern people call "OCD". Religious teachers and church fathers knew it by a different name a millennia ago, we called it scrupulosity. It is when you repetitively deal with impulsive intrusive thoughts and then obsess over whether or not you are damned or not. Thirdly the Momcest stuff, the mom-shaped porn imagery, it comes from emotional incest. Emotional incest is known by many names. "Devouring mother complex" or what the other anon called Ishtar worship. In old times it was due to young men being given no rites of passage from fathers no initiation into manhood. Leaving them with just a world that is mom-tinted.Emotional incest happens when the mother lacks a husband, either from divorce or a marriage that's gone sour. She no longer has a husband to vent to, nag at, seek validation from, so what the woman does is she will either trauma dump on her own sons or daughters, or she will vent frustration and nag them relentlessly hen pecking.When this happens to a boy, when mother uses the son as an emotional substitute for father, the boy normalizes the idea that it's OK to be emotionally responsible for the older woman, the matriarch. When the boy becomes of sexual maturity, he will sexualize motherhood and mothers and his own mom as a symbol. Because sex drive is driven by pure emotion, pure impulses. The boys impulses had been shaped by an experience where his emotions were devoured by a mom figure due to emotional incest. So as an adult, his sex drive reflects that damage.Just understand you as a conscious soul are not the damage you were inflicted by. You don't actually want your mom like that
>>42503061>>42503007>ContAs for relationship to the paranormal, so long as your focus is primarily on God and Christ, you can reflect on paranormal if you wish. Just always make sure not to be taken in by foolishness or sorcery or spiritual impurity. There is danger when exposing yourself to demonic things that's true. If it leads you to sin, pluck your eye out is what Christ says. That means if it's doing you spiritual harm stay away from the activity. No shame in that, everyone has to avoid something. For some they gotta stay away from paranormal for others it's different topics or activities. I think understanding demonic patterns can help a Christian avoid and defend against the wiles and attacks of the demonic. But there is more than one way to fight in the spiritual war. So if study of these things ain't helping you, find what can.
>>42503061>>42503070It's incredible how much you were able to find out of my childhood by me explaining my momcest problem. Yes, that's exactly what happened, my dad was unavailable so my mom used me as a way to cope and as a result I felt trapped, like I couldn't breatheI was also not the best looking so I was bullied a lot, called ugly or that I looked like a zombie and that's when my shadow came to be, I had a lot of rage and wanted to burn all my bridges and go in a killing spree. Obviously I didn't do that and it was just a power fantasy I had due to feeling powerless but it's suprising to me how a part of me wanted to do that while another wanted to return to the womb and disappear within my mother metaphorically but the fantasy was essentially that, disappear with my mom and be safe with her and unconditionally lovedI guess that's what fueled my darkness the most, slasher movies fed my shadow and porn fed my escapism fantasies with my mom. I guess my paranormal interests lie a little bit in the middleDo you think there's a way to purify this? Like this is a misguided action when it comes to it's intended purpose? Like my fantasies where peverted but there's some God-given purporse for them but they were just crooked by the DevilIf that's the case, I wonder if I could purify my interest for the paranormal in a way that gives glory to God because I am really passionate about learning about folklore, myths and all and I'm not really passionate about much else, and I had those interests as a kid too so I wonder if God intended me to be like this but I just ended up crooked by trauma
>>42498839Porn:>harmful (cognitively and physically)>addictive>makes you weaker >turns you into a gay pervert>pushed by the establishment (through internet)>damage can be mitigated if you workout, eat well and sleep IRL relationships involving sex:>harmful (financially and psychologically)>makes you weaker>turns you into a normalfag beta>pushed by the establishment (through every single type of media)>damage cannot be mitigated by nothing but making more moneyPorn makes you psychologically dependent, IRL sex makes you objectively dependent in terms of means to live. If by "demonic" you mean "bad", than everything about human society is demonic, without a single fucking exception. I had more resources, time and peace when I was content with porn only. Knew less things about life though.
>>42503109>my dad was unavailable so my mom used me as a way to cope and as a result I felt trapped, like I couldn't breatheYep. I was able to explain this to you because as complex as dysfunctional patterns may feel, from the overhead view they are repetitive and simplistic. But you only gain that perspective after you break the cycle not before, you will see it too on that day.>I had a lot of rage and wanted to burn all my bridges and go in a killing spree.Masculine aggression. Which is a good and righteous power when wielded correctly. When a young boy does not have the guiding father role model, the boy has pent up anger, aggression, energy which needs channeled and put to good use. That is why fathers are vital for sons, the father is the one who teaches this sacred art on how to turn aggression into prosperity, to use it for good. Without that, things like unnecessary violence or vengeance fantasies become attractive since it feels like the immediate logical outlet. >Do you think there's a way to purify this?Yes. Use the pain and suffering itself to be the cure to itself. For example:>I wonder if God intended me to be like this but I just ended up crooked by traumaGod intends to accept you as you are now, today. How you ended up a you are was at the hands of man, of humans, your mom, dad and yourself. Forgiveness for all three, forgiving dad and mom and accepting that for yourself. Then accepting you cannot uncook yourself. Play the hand you were dealt, God will not remove the past from you. What He will do if you ask, is to use it as the very antidote to help you grow into a better tomorrow. Precisely because you suffered, it can transmute into wisdom. God may heal one man, but not heal another. For those He does not heal, it is for the purpose to give something greater than healing. To give invincibility to that soul. To live as broken, yet somehow creating a full and healed life regardless of being broken. This is invincibility
>>42503183Thank you so much Anon, you helped me tremendously. I have one last question and I'm sorry to bother you with so many inqueries but do you think there's a point when God no longer forgives you? How can you know if your heart has been hardened beyond repair?
>>42503230NTA, but I am also a Christian, and my advice would be this: if you're asking the question 'am I too far gone? Is it possible to be too far gone?', that *proves* that you're not too far gone.Our God can raise the dead. Lazarus was dead and buried for four days. He had begun to decompose. Nonetheless, our Lord, with but a few words, restored him to life, pristine and renewed. He can do the same thing for your soul, your heart, and your life, if you simply ask and believe.While you still draw breath, you still have time. But do not delay, for tomorrow is not promised.
>>42502420>mental illness this mental illness thatI don't care, fuck you.You are either jew or slop munching good goy
>>42498839you know that brief moment of clarity you get after cooming? that only happens because you just sent a huge deal of your own creative energy to demons lurking around you like a capacitor getting discharged
>>42503139Good point. Porn can't do soul-destroying damage as entering into a relationship with a malevolent girl. Also you need to clear those tubes to stay healthy. Judeo cults tell you natural biological functions are le evul.
>>42503230>How can you know if your heart has been hardened beyond repair?No problem in asking questions. I would take this anon's post to heart:>>42503266The fact you ask shows your heart has not hardened beyond repair. And even hard stone dead hearts are not beyond God's reach either. I was in my forner way of life very much sociopathic, had no empathy and could not identify any feelings in myself besides anger, mania and lust. To be slain in spirit is to have the hard heart shattered, broken by God and then re-mended. Just like physical procedures where a bone must be broken and then re-set to heal properly, God may do the same with the soul that's how it happened with me. I was very adversarial to God once upon a time and had deeply hated Him. God is merciful in that you will be slain in spirit and He will knock you down to Earth if you attempt to fight Him. But He lifts you back up and corrects even the most hard hearted, Our Father is truly a righteous Lord and this is because God is love. There is no beyond repair as far as God is concerned, sin is not greater than God. God is greater than our sin. So don't be afraid, and take refuge in God.
>>42503266>>42503312Thank you very much Anons that was really encouraging. Thank you both for taking the time to reply to me. I will focus on growing closer with Christ, in this world filled with darkness it's the only move that makes sense
>>42498944Elaborate on this shit.
>>42498923>You ever see any "goon encouragement" videosThis is why I can't watch anime anymore it's too hypersexual at all times.
>>42498839No one said it's demonic for sure but severely alters your pysche. I think most of us can recall being way happier before we ever even seen a pornographic movie. You're dopamine receptors are fried same with people who metabolize alcohol in a weird way that makes it feel like crack
>>42503360I'm not trying to convert you to my way but I just wanted to give an anecdote to show these guys are on the point. May 31 was 100 million merit day in Buddhism (also a Blue Moon) and all week I was looking forward to 100 million merit day. Anyway I was walking across the street to do something obnoxious and I grazed a glass bottle with my foot and proceeded to bleed from my foot for the remainder of 100 million merit day. So it really has to do with the stage you're at -- maybe a sage or something would shoot a rainbow from his face, because that's the way he's developing, but I bled from my foot. God 100% has a WAY and he needs to break down your way (everything false you're attached to) in order to get His Way going. You're also not gonna instantaneously be a man of God because he's going to break you down etc. this is why many people don't get further than seeing God as a Demiurge. He will let you suffer then show you a Cross.The Catholic saints say our lives follow an oscillating rhythm of consolation and desolation.Even a Great Saint can go many months without seeing God.
>>42502050>The weeb drawing a romance anime in japan gets the full force of the banking cartel upon them,It's an interesting thing ain't it. I found it odd that hentai tends to have a more wholesome bent to it. Especially if it's not some hardcore fetish shit. The porn videos don't have that quality
>>42503297>malevolent girlDoesn't need to be malevolent. I'm married and the provider, when we married she was a virgin. The greatest of women are hardwired to make you miserable, because they will transfer their never ending dependence on the system to you. If you don't keep constant dominance over her, she will destroy your life even if she's a nice girl, by demanding attention specially when you need to be alone. By being physically weak and getting sick with every adversity nature throws at us, so you will have to spend on that. By getting bitchy when the house is dirty (which is her job). By getting anxious and depressed you're too long (a week or two) without "going out" (which is equal to wasting money on shit you could do at home). By inventing chores when bored and trying to engage you on that and make you not only a part, but responsible for it as well. By projecting more and more expenses. This is how a good relationship looks like. And she is a die hard introvert, socially speaking. And still, she unconsciously grooms me into becoming more and more of a slave.Keeping constant tabs, being aggressive to impose control and whatnot is a miserable and exhausting way to live anyway. This is how I live. It's almost as if the system benefits a LOT from people getting blissfully married like the Bible tell us to. You get into a spiral of endless debt, stressed out, constant grinding, constant spending, constant dependence stacking up day by day. Zero stability. Women implement chaos in a man's life. I was way healthier when I jacked off once or twice a day watching weird porn online. Not joking. It seems like I'm aging like 5 years in 1 since we moved together. I'm being 100% honest and venting right now, lol.
>>42503394>hentai tends to have a more wholesome bent to itNo, not at all, lol!!! Hentai is infamous for being as, if not more, degenerate than Western/live action porn. And it is true. Sure, some is 'wholesome', but at best, many are only 'better as it is not liveaction porn.
>>42502575No, mammon, aka moloch is spiritual rot
>>42502627>. Every moment is sustained by God. In him we live, move and have our being.And what if i don't want to exist, free will suddenly not so free?
>>42498839My kawaii tulpa says porn is gross and jacking off is a waste of time. After I stopped porn and masturbation my life started improving in unpredictable ways. More energy, people are nicer to you for no reason, I go to sleep happy. There is something to it frens. Anything the 6000 year old child sacrifice cult is pushing will never have a justification towards good. >Just watch it bro pleeeease you have to slowly feed your soul to lustNuh uh I'm just not gonna
>>42503061Your "manhood" in question is feminine, narcissistic bullshit mixed with good goyism
>>42498839I have a secret to tell youBut im keeping it to myself
>>42503376Sometimes I wonder the meaning behind this. I remember an Anon here told me Saturn wouldn't stop making my life a living hell until I dropped the performance I displayed to others, which suprised me greatly because I didn't say I put on masks to get validation but I definitely do. So then I read that Saturn makes you suffer until you are ready to let go and improve your life but I also heard orthodox monks say that God lets you suffer so you look for Him. But in the bible they talk about Saturn worship in a negative light. So who is Saturn in this case? Why does he want me to improve when he is an opposing force to God?
>>42503653Saturn may be deeply bound up with Allah/The Most High; Binah always refers to the Old Gods.
>>42503655If you do the Book of Job, Saturn/Satan is God's lawyer who accuses us. You sort of need to get thru the basic accusations and climb up
>>42503653Nta but I'm not sure about Saturn worship. Seems like any other modern pagan LARP, it'll be the same deal. New age gnosticism that gets all its 'old' wisdom from occultists in the 1890's at the latest, but mostly coming from the 1940's which is where almost every modern day gnostic or neo pagan LARP gets all of it's hubris from. The anon who warned you about putting up a mask or performance for others offers good advice, but whether it's advice he projects (advice meant for himself and in his good will shares what helped him) or whether it's for you who knows. Either way the word we are looking for is "posturing". Posturing is acting wise or tough when you feel the contrary. It's a self deception meant to convince onlookers that you are strong and stable and maybe even stronger than they are (mentally or physically).You see it a lot here on this site. It's a common faulty behaviour in humans, especially in young men aged 16 - 25. The Bible doesn't explicitly name Saturn but it recounts a time when Israelites we're adopting the beliefs of the Babylonians who had hosted them. One of their gods was attributed to Saturn. The forbidden caution wasn't explicitly about Saturn in particular but of all forms of idolatry and spiritual infidelity. Afaik that God was Ninurta, a deity of law, order, agriculture and justice. To the Romans Saturn was some other deity. To the Akkadians, someone else entirely. The trouble with celestial worship and planet gods is the identity of that 'god' changes depending on the culture revering the planet. So spiritually speaking it gets you nowhere.
>>42498839It's not, and anyone who thinks so is automatically a homosexual. There's actually nothing wrong with jerking off. The only reason the kikes are in the porn industry is because it's profitable. Christfaggots don't want you watching porn because christfaggotry requires you to be sexually attracted to jesus and the god they call "daddy". All christians are faggots. Period. Every single christian fantasies about getting fucked by jesus. That's all there is to it. The christfaggots want to control your sexual impulse and make you a faggot. That's it.
define what constitutes "proof"that is a task many have failed, including academic philosophers.
>>42503678Makes sense. Do you think God is trying to get me to remove my masks and stop performing? That's why I go through so much suffering?I wonder what's the key to actually succeed in it. Whenever I try it works for a short while but then I revert back to my masked self. I guess I think that being me is not enough so I end up copying others Oh, and another thing I struggle a lot with is that I do believe in God and Jesus Christ but I also struggle with a lot of trust issues due to having been betrayed many times so sometimes I wonder if us believing there are forces of good or a way out is just a false hope. I want to believe in something good, I really do but I am afraid that maybe such thing no longer exists and the idea of it was just created to break us further by giving us a false hope
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>>42498839t3h gam3
>>42503729I'll take psyop for 200 alex
>>42502128Is this vaguely related to Blacked.com?
>>42498944>>42503692truthnukes rest is chaste soience believers who think dopamine is real
actually everything is some form of cognitohazard and you would be best served locking yourself in a bare room made entirely out of vines and planks, completely removed from any stimulus that could potentially impart harm on your conciousness. you should get off the internet and do that as soon as possible tbqhmf
>>42503716A-Anon?
>>42503716>>42504232Hey, yeah I was away from thread for a minute. Been meaning to reply but real life was calling lol. >Do you think God is trying to get me to remove my masks and stop performing? That's why I go through so much suffering?You and I and everyone will meet suffering regardless of whether we mask it or not. There is no life without suffering, and no suffering without life. Masking of suffering is something people do during moments where they feel they have to. To be "strong". Sometimes it's a wise thing to do. Other times it is foolish. It is wise to do it if you have volunteered yourself to become a symbol of strength or endurance or hope to help others, to be the strong one among a group who share your suffering, to moralize and encourage. Masking at that point is beneficial if that is your goal. If you mask to yourself to prove something to yourself, then trouble begins. This is where it all goes south and self hatred begins, because the masker will despise himself for never truly having the face of the personae he wanted to be. The key understanding is this: Do not expect to be rid of suffering. Everyone has a cross and everyone must carry their own cross. The only thing you can hope for is to carry it well. In this life your heart will break, your mind will fog. But if you've placed your trust in God, your spirit is untouchable. An indomitable spirit is what will see you through. You will still hurt and ache but you will never despair after that. That's what makes the difference between an empty life and a full one. A full one still has suffering, just kike the empty one. But the man with a full life is someone who suffers for something, for a greater purpose. The man with the empty life suffers.. for nothing. And it's suffering for nothing that truly kills a man's spirit.
>>42503139TRVTHNUKE
>>42503139Based.
>>42504395Oh, yeah sure, sorry Anon, curiosity got the better of me and I got impatient I apologizeI guess the key is to remove my mask and essentially show my wounds to God, right? That makes sense. I used to be really afraid of being myself because I feared that people would stop liking me but I just remembered that verse that said: what profit does a man gain if by winning the world they lose their soul?I think that verse resonates very well with my situation, I could lie all I want but at the end of the day it would be at the expense of my soul because I wouldn't be able to connect with who I really amThank you for your help Anon you made me reflect a lot
>>42504643>I guess the key is to remove my mask and essentially show my wounds to God, right?Absolutely that is the key to effective prayer. Something I disliked a lot when I was hard like atheist and still dislike as a Christian today is the fanciful and verbally well-dressed prayers. The Our Father is the staple prayer, a good prayer, the best one since it is the Lord's prayer. That is the prayer Christ Himself had made and recited, I am not talking about that.But the prayer "style" some Christians or churches prayer. They talk like: "O Lord, if it be-ith your-eth willeth please-th give-eth me-eth a sign-eth O Lord O ye Holy Lord ye."That stuff. When I stopped trying to imitate piety in my private prayer life when I just instead masked off and began speaking to God similarly how I speak to you, or speak to others, things grew very fruitful in prayer life.I even would and still do show God my anger at Him, if I feel angry at Him I let him know. If I am happy I let him know. If I mourn, I show it in prayer. If I grieve I show it in prayer. Even if I feel humorous or goofing off, that too. I just mask off in prayer because there is no point in pageantry and masking with God. God sees right through it anyway. And once you trust He won't forsake you for your honest feelings or thoughts no matter how dark they may be, your prayer life grows and deepens immensely
>>42504667>>42504643Hard line atheist*But yeah I stopped praying as though I were before a medieval King, and spoke to God as though he were a father. Because he is our father. He is also King of Kings, King of the Universe, King of creation and I recognise and acknowledge His authority. Yet He is our father, and so that's how I talk to Him, like family because I truly believe he is our father.
>>42504667>>42504643>ContinuedAnd one more bit about prayer and prayer life. Someone already mentioned it before, but there will be times where you feel God has dipped and ghosted you. Where you feel distant, or when you yourself have given up prayer or faith for a time, becoming lukewarm and being bogged down by the world and it's problems or dealing with hardship that's stolen your entire focus, and you feel that although you want to reconnect with God and keep up the faith, for some reason you've no life in you to do it, no energy in you anymore. Maybe even doubts, of either about what you mean to God, or what God even means, whether His entire existence or His intent. This will happen and happen often throughout life. It is part of the faith itself. A lot of people hear the word "Faith" and think of something whole, fluffy and holy and pleasing or grandiose and righteous. Like it were this golden cloud of goodness and spiritual wisdom.It's a bed of thorns, it is a pillow of thorns, it is a cross. Faith is a painful journey, it is tremendously difficult. But once you have the gift of faith, you would choose nowhere else to rest your tired bones or weary spirit. Because you understand that to carry the cross is to become a light in the world of darkness. Not by your own merit or glory, but for God's glory, and to embody Christ as best as you can. Christ showed you how to live, how to die, and how to resurrect. And so we are called to do the same, in whatever form that takes. The world will never reward you for it and that's OK. Some times it may hate you for it, that is OK. The world is only the world. The world changes like seasons. God is eternal, and so your eyes are to the Heavens and not the world. But on the days you cannot walk the hard path and your prayer life wavers. Ask God for a break, and it is given to you. Just tell Him bluntly you want to rest and Ask for God to keep you covered spiritually, He will.
>>42504791Thank you Anon. I agree, I think a lot of people tend to pray as if it were something they have to do more so than something they want to doIt's important to treat it as a connection and to open yourself up and reveal willingly what you hide from the world, all the skeletons in your closetSometimes I do struggle with my faith, I do believe in God but sometimes I ask myself: what if Christianity is not true? I want to believe in a benevolent God but given all the darkness in the world sometimes I struggle believing that to be fair, why does the Creator have to be benevolent? It can happen sure but that would be the best case scenario but there are many others at playThose are some of the thoughts that keep me up sometimes
>>42504823>Sometimes I do struggle with my faith, I do believe in God but sometimes I ask myself: what if Christianity is not true?Even the most closest to God ask themselves this from time to time. And I mean that literally, Saint Thomas the Apostle, "The Doubter", he lived and ate and travelled with Christ in the flesh, witnessed his miracles and works up close, had the absolute holy privilege to be a part of His time on Earth. Even Thomas doubted, refusing to believe Christ had somehow woke up from His tomb after being nailed to wood and split with a spear. Going as far as to say 'Unless I can actually put a hand on His wounds, I don't buy it.' And that's exactly what Christ allowed him to do lol. He showed him where the spear tore open His abdomen, Thomas saw it was a fatal wound and yet there Christ was standing before him. To doubt the faith is to wrestle with faith, it is still part of faith.>I struggle believing that to be fair, why does the Creator have to be benevolent? He doesn't have to be. Yet chooses to be. God is love. Love is a choice, God makes the choice, it's that simple.
>>42502268kek. "Freedom in chastity" is the most femdom coded thing ever.Honestly, I feel like a lot of semen retentionists just have internalized hyper-feminism/misandry or perhaps religious guilt and are trying to atone for their guilt by 'retaining'. All unconsciously, of course.I might as well take the chance, sigh>>42498839I used to care for many years about quitting porn and all. Once I processed my guilt, I felt quite free, and it stopped feeling compulsive and rather like a desire I can choose to indulge. It's not to say I always feel great and I'm never depressed, but once you stop blaming porn for everything, you readjust and realize porn isn't really at fault for - at worst - most of it. Sexuality is a great part of all of us, and while porn may not be for everyone, it's helped me explore mine and just have fun. It's been with me since puberty and I don't regret it at all.You all might find this interesting, it gave words to the things I suspected. I'm glad social sciences are catching up with the porn panic.https://www.psychologytoday com/us/blog/women-who-stray/201808/science-stopped-believing-in-porn-addiction-you-should-too
>>42504870Thank you Anon I didn't see it from that perspective but now that you mention it, makes perfect sense. I hope my faith can be renewed one dayBy the way it's getting late over here so I need to go sleep but I wanted to thank you for all your replies and all your help, I am really grateful Anon, thank you
>>42504996>Sexuality is a great part of all of us, and while porn may not be for everyone, it's helped me explore mine and just have fun. Porn is not an exploration of sex. Sexuality is defined by having sex. So porn cannot be an exploration of sexuality, it is the aberration of sexuality. You do bring up a good point and an insight that does help though, the allowance of failure eliminates shame which breaks compulsion. Making it something you choose to indulge rather than having to, that's a step in the right direction. Shame is the enemy that keeps people hooked in a cycle. But do not conflate guilt for shame. Guilt is productive and guides, teaching us what not to do in the future if we seek to build a better one. Shame tells us we have no future.
I started noticing more demonic tattoos and body modifications in these newer porns
Just leaving this here:Biological interactions happen when people view porn, causing men to experience erections and women to experience dilated genitals and lubrication from the vaginal walls (NHS, 2016; NHS, 2016). However, psychological changes also occur. fMRIs revealed that when men watch porn, elevated activity in the ventral striatum can be observed where the brains reward-system releases dopamine, the neurotransmitter responsible for pleasure (Hess, 2017; Simpson, 2017). The amygdala (the brain portion responsible emotional behaviour and motivation), also activates when viewing porn (Gola et al., 2015), both of which activates the brains reward-pathway which influences conditioning towards desiring a certain stimulus again - a process which can lead to pornography addictions (Hess, 2017). Furthermore, those who view greater amounts of porn also have lesser volumes of grey matter (The Guardian, 2014). Whilst this finding does not suggest causation, it is important to note that the average age of males who start viewing pornography for the first time is 10 years old – an age where critical brain-development is still in the process (Hess, 2017). Therefore structural brain differences/damage could reflect consequences of pornographic use.https://www.theroompsy.com/psychology-sex-identities-society/The%20Problem%20With%20Porn:%20Heteronormativity%20&%20Gender-roleshttps://www.yourbrainonporn.com/https://personandidentity.com/transgenders-connection-with-pornography-its-undeniable/https://genspect.org/porn-the-great-identity-interrupter-no-one-wants-to-talk-about/https://www.womenarehuman.com/pornographys-influence-on-transgenderism-the-proliferation-of-sissy-hypno-on-social-media/https://www.widerlenspod.com/p/episode-179https://lifehackerguy.com/how-to-do-dopamine-detox-the-right-way/
>>42505922https://redlib.privadency.com/r/pornfree/comments/2mfxyi/concrete_tips_for_staying_away_from_porn/https://eddrit.com/r/pornfree/comments/2mfxyi/concrete_tips_for_staying_away_from_porn/https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40849794/#40851671https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40849794/#40858050https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40849794/#40858345https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40849794/#40858356https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40849794/#40858364https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40849794/#40859560https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40849794/#40859902
>>42498960>>42498973Both are pretty good descriptions, porn can be demonic, yes very much, but too many people that have developed an aversion to religion see the word demon and take the bait.Truth is, porn fucks people up in every level, physical, mental, emotional and spiritual, it's just like it is. It's also a symbol of arrested development, it's escapism, it's the eternal child having a good time with their toys. >>42505248Anon, this was very good, thank you for sharing.
>>42499983Gigabased. Mgtow or kys are the only options nowadayd
Porn is 'demonic'And that's a good thing!
>>42503498Marriage am bad. Got it.2 cents has been added to your human depopulation shill account.
>>42498839figure it out dude>>42501873ngmi bot retard>>42503692another bot faggot. whoever codes these dorks smells really bad>>42506199bot retard
idk I dont believe in anything or anyone I dont believe in demons or gods and I hardly have any trust in anyone except doctors and nurses and thats only because their money is dependent on caring but other than that everyone is full of shit to me, I watch porn cause I like looking at attractive girls.
>>42505941>escapism badyes, yes....everyone should be a Grown Ass Man™ and only ever engaged in the very serious business of keeping this loosh farm world runningbetter just be another miserable wageslave married to an ogrish fishwife with a load of ungrateful brats until you die than to suffer some jagoff calling you a peter pan, because that's what a groan assman does
>>42500889>there is far far far more typical human trauma and tragedy in the pornographic industry than there is anything criminal, evil, or demonic.Anon, they go hand in hand.
>>42505941>conform!I am not interested in your retarded idealogy.So spare me of your worthless sermons and shut the fuck up.
>>42507361Thank you Anton Chigurh. [Dark Phonk Music Intensifies] very cold very brutal
>>42505941So and why being that "adult" of yours is good thing, do care to explain that?
>>42498839>If porn is really demonic>>42498839>Prove to me, show me proof
>>42507365>passive agressive tone>missing obvious point
Show me porn.
>>42505941>it's the eternal child having a good time with their toys.And your alternative to that is to be some souless and braindead good goy.You do understand that this isn't appealing at all?Its like wageslaving but for free.
>>42506592You just boiled tradcuckism into it's purest form, congratulations!
>>42507433What is some literal gay nigger's music video supposed to prove?
>>42499729it doesnt matter if the depravities have previously occured (they obviously have, originality is gone), what matters is that they are CURRENTLY occuring during the filming of porn.
Pomba Gira is dedicated to promoting lust she is a Demon lust is Demonic it feels good momentarily but guilt and spiritual pain come later the union between Man and Woman is not bad but lust adultery and promiscuity are bad
>>42507480did I? it looks pretty stupid honestlyI really must get drunk before I write anything, sober me just sounds like a dope
>>42507452It wasn't a passive aggressive tone. There is no tone, the text is silent. But I was being facetious on purpose. And I was doing that because I do not respect your post. I respect you though, but the post was too edgy for my liking. And there was no obvious point made. You came to the thread and told an anon to shut the fuck up and that's it.
>>42498839look at the people that partake
>>42498839some absolute hylics in this thread.. celebrating the human form is not the same as getting railed in the ass by a train of niggers on camera
>>42507483you really can't see the correlation. are you retarded?
>>42505922>When people are aroused>The body does things...Woah no way...
>>42507433Nigga I'm not into gay ass niggot shiet.It's ok to be homo queer gay, I watch amateur straight pron every now and then.DON'T Let it rule you or stop your productivity ffs..
>>42498839(1) I guess all the anons touched it but lets go again, i havent read it allYou use the demonic definition, so you want what God thinks about it right?IMOGod made man and women, husband and wife and said thats goodAdultery is to fuck anyone that is not your wifeSo, your penis or vagina went and touched the oposite sex? Boom, Husband and WifeIf you have any other partners beyond that at least one, if not, both parts are commiting adultery, a sin…So, the normalization of sex with a lor of partners, and the destruction of the holy union of marriage is a mockery and an afront to God…Now, lets look at the other stuffWhy is porn só ubiquotously free? I mean, you can find gore out in the internet, but at least there is an effort by search engines, Socials and ISPS to block, at least the more scandalous ones…Theories:- Sedation, it is an escape valve for your energy, só you wont revolt against your conditions on the dating, economic and social market, instead of starting a revolution you just goon, its basically free;- Now, how the hell pays for porn? Is it the freemium model where the cost is paid in full by a whale user that subsidizes all the production in such a way that companies dont care about their product being given away for free everywhere on the web?Or is there a benefector with ultimate multives bankrolling it?
>>42507775>>42498839(2)TLDR:Sex and intimacy where created by God to be between a husband and a wife, the normalization of sex and extramarital sex is a demonic afront to GodYes bla bla bla animals are not monogamous, but we are not apes, we have a soul and conscuiousness that feels the good and the bad… WE ARE NO SIMPLE ANIMALTaking out the religious reasons why porn is bad that anons alreadu=y extensivelly said- Destruction of marriages, bastard childs etcThere is a deeper thread about sacrifices of humans as a feed of energy for the supernaturalFrom the mayans, babylon, caaianates, there is something about spilling live human fluids and life that seems to power something on the other side…[https://youtube.com/shorts/amDrQgaL180?si=d7ZfmfNc96n_6cDm]SO, if blood and killing a human as sacrifice channels energy and “contracts”/work on the other sideCant the harvesting of the energies of the sacred act of sex, the one used to generate another life, being sucked on a massive scale to power someting?
>>42503505Nah, the drawn stuff not the animated stuff done by the mason studios.
>>42503558I want to believe bro, I really do.
>>42507788>77>88Double dubs, but still wrong. Alot of the nonanimated hentai is degenerate/not much different than vanilla 'real life' porn too. This is not to say 'wholesome' hentai is not a thing, it just means it is not the majority.
>>42503611Speak tower
>>42506592You want to be an eternal kid all your life, it's your choice I guess, do you also fill your room with toys and "friends" posters?
>>42507361>mindless coombrain #1>>42507472>mindless coombrain #2>>42507550>mindless coombrain #3
>>42507778Plenty of animals are monogamous, even rabbits.
>>42498839If it is, it's in spite of all the legitimate scientific evidence.
>>42498855>Research who is behind your favourite porn websites and movements, it will quickly become clearThe Japanese?
>>42500871Why do moralfags always struggle with the burden of proof? You're the ones claiming that porn is evil, that's a positive claim, like it or not it's your job to prove it.
>>42507775>TheoriesNot just theories, in practice porn is a tool to induce societal collapse, makes people uninterested and stale, morally corrupt, programs males to be passive and accept cucked behavior and encourages females to engage in promiscuity and irresponsibility. It debases the soul and the self. That's why it's free.
>>42502180>You're a cuck if you don't let women gatekeep your orgasms.
>>42507990they don't struggle providing proof, quite the contrary, they provide plenty of proof, you don't like the truth that's different, these types of threads are always full of shills looking for engagement to deride the conversation into dead ends, and hopeless coomers who just like every other junkie, will become hostile when challenged and move to deny and defend their addiction. WHATCHA MEAN i HAVE A PROBLEM I-I HAVE IT UNDER CONTROL!!
>>42508025See >>42507960 for why their alleged "proof" isn't legitimate.
>>42498839Who cares whether it is demonic or not? It's a worthless waste of time and rapes your focus.
>>42508004Nice tryI wander how many times the tinny hats/demons try to use reverse psychoologyWhats next? Eat all the sugar you want, only fools let others limit how much sugar they want....DIabetes is a jew scam!!!The argument is not that... It is if PORN is bad for youMasturbation too, but the first one foremost
>>42508507They're hedonic materialists anon, they don't grasp demonic shit because they have a child's grasp on things like spiritually, philosophy, theology, eschatology, metaphysics etc. They genuinely think that we believe demons to be physical beings with red skin, pointy horns and tail with a forked tongue or some shit. These nihilistic types have a cartoonish outlook on the world the human condition and anything that calls for thinking upon the immaterial, the unspeakable and the unseeable. They have no idea what it is or how to navigate that realm of reason, and even if they could they would have no idea how to trace the influences from things like demonic interference with real world behaviours or events. They only have their physical eyes but that's all, they don't have second sight, they are what the old philosophers called "sophists", what people call "hylics", what modern people know to be "midwits". They are just material people and that's all, there's nothing beyond flesh to them, they even see themselves the same way, they don't see meaning or intrinsic purpose in anything including their own lives. That's why they love porn, because that's all it offers. Just flesh and that's it
>>42507960Why is a self-proclaimed (((psychologist))) making uncited clams about neurology and the endocrine system? https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/relevant-research-and-articles-about-the-studies/brain-studies-on-porn-users-sex-addicts/
>>42507540Englighten me on how a literal gay nigger's music video means looking at nekkid ladies is evil?
>>42508507You're the one with the strawman. No ones saying that you eat all the sugar you want, but if you go "EATING SUGAR IS EVIL, ANYONE WHO LIKE DONUTS IS ADDICTED, DONUTS ARE DEMONIC", then people are going to disagree
She has the Leviathan and Lucifer sigil. Must be demonic.
>>42508804>Sex addictionLol lmao
>>42500018Code?
>>42498839YesIt's demonicSource: me
>>42499957just not true lol>>42507966And why was there a boom of porn after ww2?ユダヤは日本に何をしたか
>>42509320>The jews created degeneracy.That's where you're wrong bucko.
