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How can I find a way to have the lord strike this from my body, or rid the world of me and evil. I am demonic disgusting and horrible inside to the point of being worse than satan. What do I need to do to get rid of me, or who I've made myself become, I take responsiblity for being narcissistic it is a chouce, what can be doen? 22 year old male and horrible selfish and disgusting
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>>42501703
I guarantee you that you aren't worse than Satan lol. Narcissism is the most banal human failing. It stems from the instinct towards self preservation. You're too down on yourself. Don't hold yourself to such impossible standards. Accept the shortcoming, try to address it where you can, and move on. God doesn't expect perfection from anyone.
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>>42501785
I am demonic that's the bare minimum and disgusting and disrespectful may I rot in hell with Satan. I see what you are saying but I either need an exorcism or to be mentally abused into submission and never to be a narcissist again. I do see what you mean thanks for your comment.
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>>42501703
Dont listen to modern quacks. Psychology is a hijacked vocation. It used to be about the study of the soul, that is what the word psychology translates from in Greek "Study of Soul".

Today it is no longer about soul, but impulse and reductionist materialistic nonsense. "Narcissism" is something they invented to explain pride. Psychologists cannot believe in evil, they don't believe in soul or spirit or God. But they needed to answer the question of evil. So what did they do? They renamed it. Called it a "dark triad" cluster of personality traits. They tried calling it psychopathy and it didn't stick. Then sociopathy and it didn't stick. They abandoned both terms and then settled for "personality disorder".

This shot the psych field in its own foot, since it implies "normal" personality exists. And they do not know and cannot measure personality, personality is still a nebulous concept that's up for debate.

Narcissism is pride, that is all, it is the sin of pride. It is a sin that affects all of us, every single one of us. It is the "King of Sin" and Satan's patronage is pride. It's The devil's favourite one. You know why? Because it's the hardest one to beat. It's almost impossible. Because it acts like a Chinese finger trap. When you try to fight pride, you end up trying to use your own ego to beat it, which results in more pride. It's a fire that gets bigger when you try to put it out.

You are not alone in this fight. It is a spiritual war for a reason. Do not despair and rely on God.
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It's funny how you creating this thread to draw attention to your own suffering and remorse and yadda yadda is in itself proof that everything you are claiming is false, you have no self awareness, you are not ready to take responsibility at all. This entire thread is the writing on the wall that you are pathological and never going to change.

The best thing that can happen for all of us, including you, is that you get very sick and die, or you get into a lethal accident very soon, so that the rest of society doesn't have to waste resources on worthless parasites like you.

Best of luck to us all.
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>>42502089
God is watching. You'll be counted for your lack of mercy.
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>>42502089
I couldn't agree more, I hope I come to an end soon. May God bury my soul in hell.

>>42502086
I am evil and will be til I die but I appreciate you reaching out but yeah I am the devil on this Earth I will be wiped out soon.
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>>42502099
I'm evil too. We all do evil. The goal is to ask God to take our evil and transmute it into goodness. So just ask God for help.
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>>42502097
God wants honest people to stand up to narcissists and devils they are doing whats right.
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>>42502103
That is fair enough I think it would be better off if I got removed but I understand what you mean.
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>>42502070
Chill out man. You need to take a break from whatever has made you feel this way.
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>>42502104
You do the devil's work. The devil wants us to destroy images of God, knowingly or unknowingly, to self destruct ourselves. By telling OP to die for his sin, you do the devil's work and not God's.
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>>42501703
Its actually rather simple.

Buy the book "Sadly, porn" from Amazon and study/read it untill you get it and change your life. Get the physical copy, no digital bullshit. All the mirrors (your phone is a literal black mirror) are part of the narcisim.

There is plenty of hope for you. Most people don't even get to the step where you are at; that is realisation that you might be the problem.

Godspeed
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>>42501703
Mentally you are what you chose to be. The material realm is fucking garbage, but the mind follows your will. You only need to remove the unwanted things. It's like cleaning your bedroom, but sometimes the dirty pants walk again into the room with your permission.
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I’m evil and I’m loving it. revel in darkness, let it consume you and give you power. All the horrors of the world become a comedy and everything gets easier to deal with. There is no karma, no justice after death, just this unfair world and then oblivion, so enjoy yourself.
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>>42501703
Step 1: Parasite cleanse
Step 2: Fascia release
Step 3: Audio frequency reprogramming.

Good Luck.
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>>42501703
You're not worse than Satan, anon. Just remember this- thoughts are just thoughts. A man is defined by his actions, not his thoughts.
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Have you considered just being evil
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>>42502121
I am what made me feel this way and I will implode soon due to my sins and evil I can only hope.

>>42502123
I am OP, and I have been told to die for less, I believe it is the answer and I hope God presents me with a way to be a hero and save lives at the same time.
I am self destructive because I am indulgent and selfish that's why I will be burning in hell.

>>42502133
I will look into that book thank you. The phone part you said makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the lifepill brother.

>>42502176
This makes sense, mind over matter.
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>>42501703
narcs cant self reflect lol
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>>42504152
Thank you i will look into these. You too.

>>42504179
My actions are evil, I'm Satan and I need to be hunted down.

>>42504334
Huh
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>>42506294
I can but I am still hollow and have little real genuine feelings (I just think I feel a sort way but I am not deep) unless they are selfish ones.
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>>42502086
Thats silly. Real clinical narcissism and not just somebody displaying pride or arrogance is a real thing. Pathological narcissism is different than pop culture "narcissism" where anyone who has egotistical traits is considered a narcissist. In a really general sense, its when somebody has an obsessive need to get reality to reflect to them that their delusional chosen avatar (ego) is the truth.

In a deeper sense, its when somebody at one point early in life "splits" and becomes a version of themselves known as "the false self", which is basically a delusional, inflated reality they spend enormous energy collecting "proof" via interactions and other (usually) superficial measurements by controlling how their outside enviroment reflects back to them. Due to how they are raised (and genetics) they literallly dont form a functioning sense of self. Its similar to BPD in that way, but also different. If you ever met a person with NPD they are very unique, odd and frustrating people. Usually thin skinned yet superficial and manipulative.

It is for sure a real, definable thing that is different than pride.
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>>42501703
quit being a dork retard then
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>>42501703
You are like me. This is your challenge in life. There are no worms in your gut or demons inside you. Don't scapegoat something else. You have already realized the problem so you can start working on your behaviors. This is your labor. It's not caused by anything except yourself.
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>>42506331
>Huh
Why would you fix this? Embrace your true nature and see it to its logical conclusion.
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>>42506363
>they literallly dont form a functioning sense of self.
This is disproven easily by cultural differences. Not every culture has the liberal individualism disease of self worship as westerners do. Not every culture has the same definitions of what the "self" is. And the fact the self and the sense of it is not only relative, it is changing and malleable over time or stressors, is proof that the notion of a solid, static functional "self" is ridiculous. This personality disorder shit is already on its way out, DSM6 isn't even going to list BPD as a personality disorder any more. They are already discussing it will be understood as an emotional regulation disorder
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>>42506363
You just described everyone on this board who posts in astrology threads trying to roast other signs and boast that they're an aquarius or some other stupid shit.
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>>42507644
>DMS6
>BPD wont be listed anymore
this is objectively false, and so is almost everything in your retarded post about the "self" being relative. What the fuck are you even talking about nigger?
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jesus christ I should've stopped reading that post the moment I saw the buzz word "liberal" it was instantly obviously what kind of a fucking idiot wrote it and how their fucking retarded /pol/ brain works
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>>42502086
This anon knows. You're just one drop in a sea of a self-serving aggrandizing public. You're unironically probably a caricature of their own reflection.
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Op here on my phone so I can’t reply to everyone but I appreciate the new comments and discussion it is helping my perspective, and if I am honest I am still evil and should be removed from this planet. But thank you for replying
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>>42501703
You are not Evil. Evil wouldn't ever ask itself that question, save for in jest or in iront. I will however give you a chance to run away. Before it's too late.
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>>42509621
>>42509627
Chill out psych-anon. You are having what is known as a "Narcissist meltdown". You perceived criticism and rejection in the post, on top of a reminder that there is no static "self" and you experienced negative emotions. You may want to check for malignant and/or covert NPD. Because you see, humans should only ever be positive at all times, and express positivity or at least civil neutrality at all times. Any deviation from this is a cardinal sin of psychology and suggests a personality impairment. Take your meds and remember to breathe in and out.
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>>42511605
How do I know if I’m even genuine in my question I think I’m either possessed or a true evil person. I will take th chance to run while I still can from it all, may God help me to have the strength to give up or be a man, which I know I am without conviction to do.
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>>42512078
NTA but you may have an incomplete understanding of what evil is. To know what evil is, you only need to understand what evil is not. Evil is not goodness, that's all. Evil is not [something], it is a [lack] of something. Think of darkness like a shadow. Shadows are not, physically speaking, real. They do not exist physically. They are a phenomenon that occurs due to a LACK of light. The same is true for evil. Evil is due to a lack of goodness, it is not a force in its own right.

This is how we can say that a human cannot be evil himself, it would be bad logic to conclude that. No matter how much evil a person can do in action, the individual cannot be evil incarnate, only motivated by the effects of evil. It is possible for a human to be afflicted by evil, but never can a human become evil entirely.

Humans become afflicted by evil when they experience it, that means when their lives feature a distinct lack of goodness. This could mean lack of good upbringing lack of good friends lack of good community lack of good village lack of good peers lack of good teachers. If they had been harmed by lack of goodness (evil) again and again and again that person begins to practice it, they identify with it, they will then convince themselves "I am evil".

Evil is like a contagious sickness in this way. And because evil = lack of goodness, people who are afflicted by evil can feel symptoms to confirm it is affliction. Emptiness is the big one, feeling hollow inside, feeling almost physically that lack of wholeness in the solar plexus. Lack of identity, feeling faceless like who they are does not exist. These are a couple of signs that a lack of goodness [evil] afflicts the individual.

But it does not mean the individual is evil just for being afflicted. We do not say "I am the flu virus" when we catch a cold. No matter how long we have been sick, it's not reality. Nor should you say "I am evil" just because you feel the affliction.
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>>42512107
I’m the closest thins can get, I’ll read your post and thank you for writing it means a lot to me
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>>42512107
>>42512078
>Continued
So the reason you ask
"How do I know if I'm even genuine in my question"

That is the faceless symptom I mentioned. The difficulty to know who you are or what you mean. The "blurriness" inside yourself, you know? And the reason you cling to the idea of being evil and calling yourself evil is because of the lack of identity, because if you can say "I am evil" you get to say "I am". It is a tempting way to try to find your missing self.

And it is hard for you to let go of saying "I am evil" because that would mean not having that transient identity, and you are faced with the terrifying emptiness of "Who am I?".

Here is the answer.
You are you
You are life experiencing itself
You are someone who asks who you are
You are someone who feels like they do not know if they are genuine
You are a soul, and an image of God
You are consciousness

Even if you feel you do not have a solid idea of who you are,
We can say you are someone who doesn't have an idea of who he is. This is still identity.

You always had it, it was always in your possession. It never went anywhere, you are always you. The trouble with the fog of evil (lack of goodness) is much like a lack of light, darkness is hard to see in! It gets hard to see clearly. And that is forgivable. Do not consider yourself blind, just consider yourself as someone walking through some darkness. Understand you will be okay and all you need to do is search for where it is brighter. You'll find your way.
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>>42512119
No problem friend. You are most welcome, you will live to see the back of this dilemma, you will look back at where you are the same as a sailor looks back at a giant black storm cloud on the ocean after having sailed through it and lived. Things will not be clear to you now or tomorrow, it is a process that takes time. Just as fogs slowly roll in, it slowly rolls out. Process will see you to clarity. So be patient and merciful with yourself and others as best you can, even if that is only 1% you can give, it is enough. It will become 2% then 3% all the way to 100% or close to it. Peace be with you and God bless
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>>42512107
I like this post. I'm not NPD but I'm more prideful and ego-driven than is ideal.

OP, you can also look into self-compassion, especially the idea that you can see yourself as worthy and deserving of kindness even when you aren't the best or people aren't treating you as the best. Self-compassion has been found to reduce narcissism.
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>>42506331
>My actions are evil
What have you actually done?
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