It's apparent that my body has it's own consciousness and the more I strain it, the more depressed I am. Yet nothing comes easily. My pendulum swings towards thinking that nothing paranormal really exists and the science jews are right it's all matter and neurotransmitters. How do I easily prove myself wrong?How do I do magic shit? I start to think astral does not exist.
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>Don't go to the dark hole>You will never come out of this!
>>42506415Stick a marker up your bum to activate kundalini. I'm serious.
So it's all nonsense? Why are y'all lurking /x/ then if you can't do shit as well? Are y'all theoretists?
Write something fuckers
>>42506415The easiest way to have a "spiritual experience" is to take drugs. Especially "entheogenic" ones. This is dirty and sub-optimal though. It's just to open the door and show you a possibility. Next, you'll have to actually do some work to get "there" again naturally. Fasting/watching your diet, semen retention, meditation/breath work, using guides like the Monroe Institute are all viable paths that are easy and require little research and esoteric decoding. They are not easy as far as the Will is concerned, but the path is clear and easy to understand. The path to where might be the next question, but there is a reason Spiritual people obscure the Truth.
>>42508557Kill yourself retard
>>42508628>take drugshow do you know it's not just your brain chemistry?>boomer tapesnever worked for me and never seen anyone here claiming they worked for them>>42508785will I go to the anime world?
>>42508557Universal line
>>42506415None because they all require disciple and/or prerequisite knowledge Even if I tried to send you off in the right direction, you would rebel against it, like if I said you should read the New Testament and familiarize yourself with it
>>42506415>how do I do magic shitI think a better question is why do you want to prove so desperately to yourself that the esoteric exists, most people who exist within the realm of esoteric practice didn’t seek it out, we fell into it through one way or another, many don’t want to believe it at first and would prefer a mundane lifeThe mere fact you’re asking this question shows you don’t have the intuition or willpower required to make the big things happen, however, you can still likely experience the paranormal through stuff like meditation, astral projecting, maybe some basic rituals or sigil work if you’re so inclined, but I have a feeling that you’ll not bother putting in the work required, and even if you do, you’ll just hand-wave any results away as “matter and neurotransmitters” as a result of “the science jews”
Energy cultivation?Seriously, 17 hours and the "best" thing I have seen is take drugs? How is this even /x/ anymore
>>42509006how do you know mystical experiences aren't just brain chemistry too?
>>42509378Ap card testing
>>42509373>i breath, do kegels, and visualize colorsOk, Becky.
>>42509384I Have a feeling that If I said literally anything you will find a snarky comment for it, you don't want answers
>>42509373You need to consider that if the answer you're looking for exists, everyone would be doing it
>>42509394You don't have "answers". No one on here does. You're all just a bunch of larpers.
>>42509396Just not true, there could be multiple different answers, there could be bias, and most times people don't want truth they want whatever makes them feel nice
>>42509404Lmao what's the point of making this thread if you are not going doing to anything lmao>I want methods which gave you results>Gives methods>thats a lieJFlI'm sorry anon you was right, no point in talking with op>>42509366
>>42506415astrology
>>42509405That's exactly what I pointed out to you here >>42509285The actual easy answer that everyone is doing on an instinctive level that you don't want to hear is in mainstream religious scriptures, but you think you're above it for some reason
>>42509416I didn't make this thread. I'm just laughing at your delusions.
>>42509373Just take some fuckin drugs Becky.
>>42509285I've read it, believe it or not. Lots of wisdom dropped there, but it's mostly useless. For example like in the Parable of the Prodigal Son. Maybe this would work in another world, but not here. Here you would be labeled as a retard, or a sucker and got leeched out by the society or at least women. It's a trick made by the god of this world or just Yahweh that he put impossible to meet expectations on you so you never reach heaven and you always dependant on his whims.Believe it or not, once I had a dream about Christ consciousness coming to me. Felt nice, but it was useless anyway. It was as if I was shown some magic trick just to stay here and remain quiet, this sort of manipulation.>>42509366Because I hate this world to the bone and I might isekai-ed myself as well, I'm not enjoying it in slightest, not to mention cruelty of this realm wherever you move your sight. Esoteric give me copium, but whatever I try doesn't work and my life is not improving at all. Only le "science" does work for me even though I despise academia.>le astral projectionI know about it since 8. I'm 28 now. I never did it on purpose or accidentally. I doubt it does even exist. I only had vivid dreams at best.>>42509378That's what appears to me the most likely un-very -fortunately>>42509416You weren't talking to me (OP). I'm not saying anything you say, or is to be read here is bullshit, I'm just saying it never worked for me (obviously drugs worked but I'm not very experienced with them). So I've always been using it as potential "simulation lore" but it stops being convincing for me anymore.
>>42509606>Esoteric give me copiumWell there you go, this isn’t a legitimate pursuit and is purely a cope for you, you’re subconsciously denying yourself any actual results, besides, if you did happen to break out of mundanity into a state of esoteric gnosis, you’d likely fall into much worse coping mechanisms, look at what happens to most occultists, drug/alcohol abuse, debilitating insanity and abject poverty are a common theme, does this sound like an ideal path to go down? If “le science” works as a cope, why do you need the esoteric cope?> I never did it on purpose or accidentally. I doubt it does even exist.I’ve had numerous experiences with astral projection and remote viewing throughout my life, usually occurring directly before or after periods of emotional turmoil, perhaps try again after a feeling emotional fluctuation.If you genuinely want to see proof of all of this, rid yourself of the doubt and subconscious mental blocks, set yourself some sort of regiment and practice whatever it is that appeals to you, keep at it for months and journal your process.You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make It drink.
>>42509688There have always been a legitimate pursuit. I don't have energy anymore to practise something that give absolutely no results for months. Maybe the conditions weren't perfect, or I've been doing something wrong, I won't fall into conceit. But I had this attitude "well it works for so many others so at least it probably is true" that no longer works, because bad things I don't want keep happening to me. Science isn't my cope. It's a utility to deal with reality, not to cope. I don't cope, I hate this nigger world and my nigger life. Perhaps I should end it.>>42509688>You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make It drink.Perhaps my nigger body and/or nigger higher self do their best against me.
>>42509606>That's what appears to me the most likely un-very -fortunatelythat's simply what you choose to believe because it fits your opinion
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simply start using tarot for divination, that is, knowing the universe and god and his will. i recommend thoth tarot as it's what i use. i literally have 72 notecards that i drew myself that i use as my tarot deck. $0 invested. these sites should have almost everything you need to use thoth tarot:https://thelema.org/downloads/cot_monograph_eshleman_LiberT.pdfhttps://crowley-thoth.com/since beginning to study the thoth tarot my mind has expanded greatly. the cards are not just "fortune telling" tools. they contain the most important occult truths about our reality in visual, symbolic language. as you study them, you will inevitably discover ideas and concepts you do not know. as you research them, you will learn more and more, eventually all the most seemingly disconnected topics will form a web in your mind. a net. indra's net.tarot is unbelievably deep. it can be your initiation into the hidden mysteries.
>>42510221Thanks, I've always liked tarot. Very appreciated.
>>42506415Get someone to talk to you about the esoteric with enthusiasm. Leave your expectations at the door and allow yourself to act a fool and make mistakes.Or embrace the science jews and learn from them, until whatever they are teaching stops making sense. Whatever it is, I am sure it will be what is best for you, as long as you do not do it alone.And sleep a lot, it helps!
>>42506415There's nothing easy about it. With power comes responsibility. If you want easy, stay out of this.
>>42506415kotodama, hands down. No question.
>>42509006>just brain chemistryRetard. Of course it is. It is both chemistry and "more"It is known that we don't perceive every aspect of reality. You can't even see air and our visible spectrum of light is very limited. What does that mean? That it is biologically limited, but there exists "more" we cannot perceiveIf you take a drug or something that enhances your perception, does that mean it's just "chemistry" imagination or something? The drug enhances your perception through chemistry, it opens channels that are normally locked so you can see and experience more. Both are trueSame with mystical experiences and other dimensions
>>42506415There's secular magick approaching it from a materialist and scientific perspective. The important part is believing and have certainty in what you will have an effect. Learn the principles of chaos magick and practice meditation to break down illusion of reality as something fixed and concrete.
I am the most powerful psychic on earth. You may marvel at my aura that is emanating through this post.
You can ask specific questions and I'll try to answer them effectively (part of the issue is not being able to explain these things reliably, so what I'm promising is to make an attempt, I'm not promising you'll understand).
>>42506415Blue Eisenhower November
>>42510221crowley-thoth.com was useful, thank you for sharing
>>42506415can you define works in this context. I have some things that are usefull , but they aren't exactly flashy and could be dismised as cope.
stay close to people who practice or compose music with a passion. your divine soul has been damaged by the material, it can only heal through the presence of an agent of the hidden (music practitioner). they might not know it, but they can heal souls, and sometimes turn normies into truthers
>>42506415Just think schizophrenia is telepathy and real and voices will talk to you.
>>42516666Checked, based bardic magus True artists are usually latent magicians
>>42506415>science jews are rightSince you know it is "science jews" why in gods green earth would you ever in a billion years take what they say at a face value? Lest you are one yourself.
Voodoo. You can get live chickens easily in big cities.
