>>42506789
Fiat currency is a low civilization, middleman exchange tool. Advanced civilizations don't use fiat and laugh at us like we’re low IQ animals, instead they employ token based systems mainly for tracking the means of exchange. Money is obsolete in higher civilizations because the first two levels of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs are solved and automatic, like breathing. We currently operate in a parasitic system. There are two paths: either forge a breakaway civilization and economic system, or the fast route of eliminating the parasites and seizing their resources, then build the type 2 civilization economic system.

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>>42506844

OP here

So you're talking cryptocurrency? I'm already loaded with cryptocurrency but it's not worth much at present with the current bear market crushing everything and is a huge ball ache to process come tax time...

The current fiat system is indeed parasitic but I still need it to pay my rent and buy food my man. I'm not a wilderness survivalist

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>>42506912
I recently purchased his book "The 72 Angels of magic" but am struggling with performing the ritual every day for 11 days.

Tell me about your experience. Did you have success?

>>42506789
>>42506886
>>42506912
>>42506954
Buy an ad

The astroturfed ai generated self help space was already saturated 5 years ago, now go leave more vague youtube comments talking about yourself hoping to make pennies on amazon KDP

Goblins Elves and Gnomes can help you but be careful they are actually Demons in disguise do you really want to lose your soul for money? you can make a lot of money with them but i dont recommend it

Pagan Cults and False Saints who promise you money are Demons yes they keep their promises but at a high price your soul in Hell or you will be bewitched

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>>42507476
>>42507468

What is with you people who think beings who assist with finances are all demonic? I'm not interested in sacrificing children for money. I'm only interested in seeking aid from angels that are aligned with God. I'm also not looking to become a billionaire I just want enough wealth to support myself and my girlfriend so we don't have to work at McCuck's forever and die homeless and destitute when we're too senile to work anymore...

>>42506844
nobody cares about your sophistry niggerfaggot

>>42506912
>>42506954
none of his books have worked for me

>>42507751
and who's to say that gods plan for you isn't exactly this
>have to work at McCuck's forever and die homeless and destitute when we're too senile to work anymore

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>>42507781
Very grim to think about but you're absolutely right it really could be the remainder of my existence as per God's plan. I'm doing what I can to save my girlfriend and I a life time of misery and suffering under the current financial system

>>42507777
Did you do the rituals exactly as they're instructed? I've personally been struggling to stick with the 11 days of ritual pleading with the angels.

>>42506844
>money is viewed as obsolete by higher civilizations that use [money]

>>42507234
Damon Brand and the gallery of magick books are generally well regarded. They contain simplified versions of "real" grimoires, practical Kabbalah, chaos magic and rituals, suitable for beginners as well as well as the more experienced.

The financial transformation book is an updated version of an older book and doesn't include working with demons which can have a disruptive effect on your life that forces transformation to generate your desired goals.

So shove your ignorance up the rear end.

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>>42508128
Wow. You've cemented to me that I need to persevere with the 11 days of attempting to commune with angels. You're the second or third source now that have confirmed that Damon Brand's books on money magic are legitimate. Thank you anon

Can you give me any more tips, advice, stories based on your own experience?

May God bless you anon

Wealth mantras are a good practice.
They will purge your karmas of greed and replace them with gratitude and abundance.

True wealth is recognizing that you have everything you need.
Wealth mantra will kill your demons of greed that cause boomers to retire with millions of dollars, but not know how to enjoy it, or cause people to grind 70 hours/week but not even be able to retire early.

You will recognize things like you already have amazing wealth and abundance, in the form of grocery stores, internet music, beauty of nature, and public amenities.

Greed makes a person think they need to work hard to buy their own slice of woods. Abundance makes a person grateful that 90% of land is publically owned and they can use it whenever they want.

You learn to become free from the demons of greed that ruin a persons life. You are already free, but you just have to realize it - which is what the mantra brings you to do.

>>42508682
So a lot of people have dreams of millions of dollars, or easy retirement. So when they hear they already have everything they need in abundance, they often get mad, and dismiss the practice.
But the point is you dont have to waste your life slaving for millions of dollars and not even know how to enjoy it. You get to realize financial freedom from your mind.
It is the mind that enslaves and the mind that sets free.
A persons own feelings of lack is what enslaves them to think they need more.
Lots of billionaires dress the same as us, drive the same cars, and only have an upper middle class house.

>>42508700
holy cope , i can dream happily all my life that im a millionaire it wont magically put food on the table or buy me tickets to travel the world faggot

>>42506789
I tried making talismans from the Key of Solomon and conjuring spirits from the Ars Goetia in the Lemegeton. Each had an objective related to money but approached it differently. Both were successful to some degree. I was satisfied enough with the results, but the preparation required was a pain in the ass.

>>42506789
everyone in this thread is a broke, idealistic larper
listen to a /biz/raeli and start trading prayers for blessings to the elder futhark runes. they'll provide opportunities, all you need to do is trust your intuition, accept what they give, and thanks the gods

>>42509340
that doesn't sound any less larpy

>attracting wealth, financial gains, business gains, new clients for their business
I think we begin by reframing what Magic is and what you really want. If you have $5,000,000 USD, but you break your legs a week after the money lands in your bank, what does that mean to you? Next, how exactly do you define Magic? Are we doing le fireball like your favorite anime or are we doing something sophisticated that you've read a book (or, preferably, several) about?

>>42507777
Checked
>Damon Brand
He's like "if you don't pay me then this book works as a curse on you"
Cursing others is bad mojo and he gets all the curses sent back at him, if he's operating at that low level I wouldn't bother giving him any money, if I had I would return the book and demand a refund

>>42508805
Somehow the fact that you're alive and posting on the internet makes me think that you have food on the table
And why do you need to travel the world? Once again this is something you can work out in your mind - you can find a way to make it happen, or you can realize you never needed to do it in the first place
Remember how many CEOs and billionares that drive the same cars, wear the same clothes, drink the same coffee as the rest of everyone else.

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>>42510104
>>42508682
>>42508700
OP here

If I wasn't worried about putting food on the table or wasn't struggling to pay my rent I wouldn't be here. My business is failing and my girlfriend and I are struggling to find work. Unemployment has risen by 0.5% in my country and rents, food and fuel continue to rise every single year while wages stagnate.

There's people on here who ask all kinds of silly questions on this board and your answer to some one like myself or others who are constantly wondering where their next meal or rent money is going to come from is to be grateful for their poverty? Come on man.

This sounds like some governmental/religious scale brainwashing that you've experienced.

I know for a fact money magic works because of all the positive reviews Damon Brand gets. I also know some one who has used his book and had success.

I know that wealth magic works and not in this "be grateful for not having enough to get by" none sense that certain major religious institutions push...

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>>42510472
Have a demon of greed drop a few shekels in your lap gives you food for the day, and rent for the month, but doesnt give you sustenance for life

>I know for a fact money magic works because of all the positive reviews Damon Brand gets
The stereotype of wealth magic is most of them are lazy broke guys looking for an easy way out. When just having a steady job would give them everything they need but they are too lazy for that.

>I know that wealth magic works
So far it sounds like your wealth magic is not working at all, which implies you do not really know how it works

>be grateful for not having enough to get by
Sounds like your unhappy with working a regular job since you think you need to own a business to earn more money than everyone else

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>>42510533
Again these are angels not demons. They are not the same thing

>The stereotype of wealth magic is most of them are lazy broke guys looking for an easy way out. When just having a steady job would give them everything they need but they are too lazy for that.

I'm not interested in throwing my business in the bin for a 9 to 5 job. That's just not going to happen. I love my business too much to sacrifice my business for a minimum wage job

>So far it sounds like your wealth magic is not working at all, which implies you do not really know how it works

I haven't completed the ritual as it's laid out in the book so I don't expect it to work as of yet until I follow all the correct protocols. I have how ever had unexpected clients pop up and my girlfriend and her friends have also had spontaneous small amounts of money appear to them since I started studying the book. For these small tidbits of money I'm extremely grateful

>So far it sounds like your wealth magic is not working at all, which implies you do not really know how it works

I'm very new to this stuff. I'm a new student looking to learn how wealth magic works

>Sounds like your unhappy with working a regular job since you think you need to own a business to earn more money than everyone else

Kind of... I get a lot of joy out of running my own race and dealing with customers directly. There's a real satisfaction in putting a smile on a client's face because you solved their problem directly. I really don't want a boss that is going to take a large cut of that like jobs I've worked in the past for minimum wage. Seeing your boss going on expensive holidays while you toil away for minimum wage is a type of hell in and of itself.
Where did you learn/borrow your philosophies from? They sound like very Eastern/Buddhist ideas

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>>42510472
>My business is failing and my girlfriend and I are struggling to find work.

You can check out Jason Miller's financial sorcery which also focuses on implementing magic strategically for things like businesses. Why is the business struggling and how can you use magic to help with those problems.

>>42507995
>Did you do the rituals exactly as they're instructed?
yes and i didnt get the results i wanted

>>42509848
its more of a guilt trip than an actual curse , psychological subconscious warfare to make you think you did something bad thus you're not worthy of being "blessed" by the entities not only from the books but also in general when it comes to money , he and his group just seem safe edgy to me he doesnt even have the courage to actually curse others because he knows of the backlash he will get spiritually so opts with basic beliefs of doubt

>>42506789
I cast a spell for fast cash, a little more than 3k in USD. Green ink on brown paper, wrote the exact amount and latest date i needed it. Sat in a dark room with a lit candle reading what i wrote in the candlelight, imagining myself having the cash already.
Within 2 weeks my grandma dies and i receive ~2k in heritage and ~1k from insurance.
Got the exact amount i asked for within the timeframe i asked (1month), but i maybe killed my grandma.

Learnt not to play with magic and to ”be careful what i wish for”

0/10
would never do again and not recommend to anyone.

>>42511563
>killing grandma for a measly 3k
thats why i only ask for multimillions kek

>>42511563
Forgot a part:
I hid the label i wrote in a place i never look.
>>42511570
Dont think that would have worked since that amount of money was/is outside of my perception of what a ”probable reality” is.

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>>42511608
I love my grandma. I'd be upset too if I only got 3 k out of all that effort.

Can you walk me through the ritual you performed in more detail anon? I'm curious to learn more

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>>42507751
Do you remember the Golden Calf? a False God the israelites wanted to create? well Satan and the Demons also infiltrate other Pagan Gods and Witchcraft they are all Demons infiltrating to cause evil Demons grant your wishes but at a high price

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>>42512083
They actually didn't make that golden calf to gain any wealth. They made it in absence of Moses because they wanted a physical leader with a connection to God. When they were in Egypt it was common for people to have physical statues of their deities.

There's nothing in the bible that mentions them praying to the golden calf for wealth or riches. In fact it was the opposite because they melted down their gold jewelry to make the golden calf.

Show me the verse in the bible where they pray to the golden calf for wealth or food and the verse where the calf deity provides for them.

Angels work directly for God and are an extension of God. None of Damon Brand's magic has anything to do with that evil Baal cult. Go check out the book

>>42511917
My first post pretty much describes it all. i was kind of new to the whole magic thing and tried out alot of shit, having had some success with sigil magic manifesting minor things. When i discovered that magic and the whole spiritual world was real i kind of took a break from reality, ignored my engineering studies and didnt look for work. I had some cash i could live on for a few months but it started to run out and i tried a ritual as a fast way to extend this period of 100% focusing on magic and spirituality.

I followed a ritual i found on the internet, but key points are:
The colours green and brown is subconscously related to wealth/money. I used a green candle as well i think.

Getting in a meditive/trance state during the visualization part of the ritual.

Hiding or burning the writing after the ritual, allowing for you to ”forget” the manifestation so it can move from existing in your mind to manifesting in reality.

Dont go to big, you can only manifest things that you truly believe are possible and can happen to you.

Magic will go the easiest way to manifest, like a current, where the ”resistance” is your own belief of what is possible.
Hence why an inheritance happened for me rather than tripping over a wallet full of cash or something.

I was also using alot of LSD and weed during this time in my life and being in that state of openmindedness/weirdness made it easier to manifest even while sober. Meditation before the ritual will give the same effect tho.

Nowadays i dont do alot of magic, and if i do only for smaller manifestations that i find ”believable” without going schizo. as the big ones come with unpredictable risk.

I learned my lesson with that ritual.

>>42508005
I assume that when he says tokens, they expire when an exchange of goods occurs, so there's no way to horde it. Basically something retarded Spanish anarchists and communists implemented during the Spanish Civil War.

>>42511563
That's a classic path of least resistance, you ask for money and you get it through inheritance or insurance claim. That's the easiest way for the universe to manifest the money you ask for. You should therefore have other vehicles through which the money can flow through, like investments, lottery, business opportunities etc.

>Ambiguous intentions: In occult lore and manifestation practice, focusing purely on the amount of money rather than the manner of receiving can yield unintended consequences.

>Tragic alignment: If your intention demands a specific sum of money immediately, the nearest available source of that exact amount might unfortunately be a car accident settlement or a relative's passing.

>Lack of guardrails: This is why experienced practitioners emphasize adding protective clauses to intentions, such as "with harm to none" or "in a way that brings joy to all involved

>>42512341
what you should do is establish insurances that don't hurt anyone you love in order to get the payout. Like disability insurance on yourself, fire insurance on your own house, theft insurance on your own car etc.

>>42506789
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>>42512369
>Insurance on world trade center

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>>42510924
>Where did you learn/borrow your philosophies from?
All over the place.
Study astrology and you will learn that wealth is largely due to fate, so there are only some avenues that wealth will come into your life, according to certain times.
Studying Jewish financial laws, they have some interesting insights.
Done lots of wealth mantras as well, that have done a lot of good things, making me feel very grateful for all the wealth I already have.
As an example one of the big insights was doing Kuber wealth mantra during an eclipse, and realizing that I don't need to hustle to buy a multi-million dollar house in my expensive ass city, but learn to enjoy and appreciate all the forms of public wealth that are completely free for everyone: public amenities, public parks, public stores. Why should I slave my life away to own a lawn to mow, when there are city workers mowing lawns at hundreds of gorgeous parks across the city. That sort of thing is a big break-through in mindset, even though it sounds really simple - but its easy to see boomers hustling themselves into the grave and not even knowing how to enjoy and appreciate wealth.
Each wealth mantra will teach slightly different things, with diferent lesson plans.

I've done some of the damon brand wealth magic stuff - I just dont think it works long-term for 95% of people. Getting a few thousand bucks isnt shit when you still have to work - so learn to enjoy working, appreciate what you have, and so on.

>>42511124
Look at Jason Miller. Is that really who you want to be? He's obsessed with money.

>>42511563
>>42512341
When this bad shit happens it means you are contacting evil spirits.
When you ask for ego-centric materialistic desires, and don't pray to heaven directly, it means you are praying to spirits separated from heaven.
Or it means the heavens are trying to put the fear of God in you, by aligning the fated death of your grandmother with your dabbling in magic - and it is a dire warning for the state of your soul to continue with magic

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>>42512145
>Angels work directly for God and are an extension of God.
>None of Damon Brand's magic has anything to do with that evil Baal cult.
Um anon... have you not realized yet that Damon Brand's magic is Jewish and heavily influenced by Judaism?
However if you study Jewish laws regarding sorcery, they will tell you that there is no free lunch. Yes you are allowed to petition angels, but they warn that getting a blessing in that way will take away a blessing some where else, plus it will have the negative of disrupting the flow of your fate, causing your life to feel fucked up when you reflect back on that time. But putting the full warning into the stripped down books for the goys doesn't help with sales.

>>42512298
>Magic will go the easiest way to manifest, like a current, where the ”resistance” is your own belief of what is possible.
>Hence why an inheritance happened for me rather than tripping over a wallet full of cash or something.
In the spirit based model of magic, it just means you got in contact with an evil spirit, and somehow gave them permission to pick a destructive route of manifestation. This is why contacting non-destructive angels can be safer than calling out to whichever spirit will listen, but IMO it still shouldn't really be done

>>42511124
Jason Miller's wealth magic works for him in bringing him money from his books and courses. He's a grifter. We're not all gonna make money by selling books and courses about magic.

>>42513858
NTA I really appreciate the response, I would like to ask you what you think are the legitimate uses of magic and what you think about following a classic curriculum of magical studies, for example Golden Dawn?