>>42510049
>escapism for gay lords

Idk most old folktales talk about things like being taken away to fairy realms or warn about getting trapped places you shouldn't go, so there's already a warning about falling into different worlds. Since any successful reality shifters wouldn't come back you'd have to believe any written work they left behind describing the practice would be half complete since they weren't around to record their success. But then surely some shifted in? You've got the man from taured story and warnings about stairs in the woods although these are more indicative of accidents or portals. Before that, and the mainstream interest in alternate dimensions, multiverses and realities, any references to it would probably be couched in old mythologies explaining it as moving to a different physical place. But I agree, if it's a thing, and always has been a thing, then there should be something.

>>42510049
PKD's Metz speech covered this.
Remote viewers talk about timelines converging around major events then branching back out after, so minor shifting seems reasonable.
One time I went to bed, woke up the next morning and my work boots literally no longer fit. My shoe size went up an entire size. That one was absolutely crazy, but true.
You would likely need to communicate directly with your Guardian Angel/Higher Self since they operate outside of time and space as we understand it.
Skepticism is a natural reaction to the paranormal, since no one likes a reality rug pull. But you do have to manage it if you are truly serious about exploring the unknown.

>>42510049
The itsy bitsy spider.. does kuji mudra hands..

>>42510049
Belief is for fools
Perception is where it is at
Do you trust your own perception?
Not everything will make sense until you comprehend the context but you have to be honest with yourself about what you yourself have personally seen

Scary and interesting:
https://old.reddit.com/r/realityshifting/comments/1tx4ds8/im_living_in_two_versions_of_my_cr_simultaneously/

>>42510156
>One time I went to bed, woke up the next morning and my work boots literally no longer fit. My shoe size went up an entire size
Sure you didn't eat something weird and got your feet swollen?

>>42512275
She's a LARPer. Also, time changes? Lol

>>42510147
>warnings about stairs in the woods
??

The tricky thing about reality shifting is that its literally unobservable. We've seen people mention it and there are hints to it being possible but you can't quantify it from an observers perspective. You could say its magic at its purest form.

>>42510156
Funny story. If the shoes were smaller someone may have played a prank on you during your sleep, but here your feet got bigger, that's more interesting. It's weird though, usually people wish for changes, here it was random.

>>42510049
Yes, travel back in time a two thousand years and tell some fucking farmer that he have the power to fulfill any dream just by shifting to the corresponding parallel universe. I can't believe they haven't figured it out!

You apparently don't appreciate the democratization of information thanks to the internet and the ability to buy anything on Amazon etc. Esoteric texts that were hard or practically impossible to get if you even knew they existed or cost a fortune to buy just a few decades ago are know readily available. Nevermind new accurate translations and the advancements in science in regards to quantum physics and consciousness.
Even in the last 10-15 years obscure shit is becoming more common knowledge and discussed thanks to YouTube and podcasts. How many were talking about shit like remote viewing even 5 years ago?

>>42510290
(I am OP)
I never experienced reality shifting but I'd like to, and I would definitely believe in it if I experienced it by myself, but so far no success.
At best I just had hallucinations while listening to the gateway tapes but I knew these were only hallucinations, I was not really there, it felt less deep than a dream, not like a reality at all. I also had many lucid dreams, but just dreams.
Oh, yes, there was that time when I was trying to manifest being less tall, I often felt like my view was lower, but moreover for several seconds while I was on my bicycle my legs were fully stretched to touch the pedals, while usually they are not, which made me believe it worked. But I kept trying since then and I am still as tall.

>>42515107
The issue is perception.
You have more experience than you realize.
Humans don't comprehend reality so they imagine that the limited view they have of it is a complete picture.

You don't even have a complete picture of your own life.
There's more in your memories than you understand. Just reviewing an image of something that you didn't understand in the first place is not going to grant you comprehension and understanding.

Reality is doing things that you are not noticing. Consciousness is the key to this. Identify exactly what consciousness is in terms of physics.

The reality that you are actually living in is far more complicated than the simple view of it that is being agreed upon by humanity.
Consensus is not truth.. is not reality.
When you finally do have real understanding of reality the common public will not be joining you in your new knowledge.

>>42512371
No, this was a full shoe size change overnight. I'd worn the same pair of boots for at least a year, and they were a second pair of the same brand I'd worn for years. I had to buy a new pair, and found than nothing in that size fit anymore. Like I said, it was crazy.
The previous body probably had a catastrophic health event that night or one coming in the near future.

PKD's Metz speech:
https://youtu.be/DQbYiXyRZjM?si=Sb-igOipCwr3886Q

>>42510049
I once took a small caliber bullet directly to the face and was able to see the two realities divide for the few moments before the other consciousness faded. I saw the walls shaking like red jelly and saw one person run into the room on both realities.. in one of them he was running in to check for a pulse and attempt to render medical assistance but quickly saw it was pointless.. I was able to see the two realities for that few moments but I was also able to figure out that there were other things that were coordinated between the two realities over the next few days.. I was even able to determine that they were having a funeral for the other body..

The physics of consciousness is much more complicated than the linear context that humans are ordinarily capable of perceiving.

>>42517318
Just to be clear, in this physical reality the weapon was never fired.. a non event in this set of conditions.. but from what I saw I figured out that this happens a lot for every consciousness.
The physics of consciousness is much more complicated than people realize.

>>42515223
How do I learn?

>>42510049
Do you believe in tales unironically as well? Without a shred of ability of discerning reality from fantasy?
No, if you fucked up, you have to live with it. To the end.

>>42518794
Begin with an audit of the content of your memory.. literally examine everything that you are able to remember. Examine the visual memory within your mind.
Cognitive perception is the result of deeply developed cognitive imagery processing abilities.
It starts with an examination of your memory and then an examination of your perception..
It's not simply illusion of imagination that you are seeking to develop.. it is the ability to evaluate the imagery within your mind. Examine the difference between a thing you saw yesterday and a thing you have imagined.. when you have experience enough to determine fine details about the cognitive imagery within the mind you will be in position to evaluate imagery that has origin that needs to be examined further..
Why would an entirely detailed scene arrive within your mind?
How clearly do you remember your dreams? How clearly can you see in your dreams once you become fully conscious during these events? There is much to discover and explore

Be honest with yourself.
No one is going to be able to do quality control over the content of your own mind other than yourself.
You are responsible for your own guidance.
The concepts of zen can be beneficial
Neutrality and centered consciousness gives stability ..seeing from the perspective of other beings can require the clarity of neutral centered observation

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>>42510156
In what timeline does it make sense to have boots a size smaller?

>>42510049
It would actually make perfect sense as to why there are so many hylics. The real souls reality shifted.

>>42512717
Fucking newfags...

>>42512973
The great awakening.

>>42517318
Holy fuck anon, if you're (not full of shit) you had a first hand experience of quantum immortality. The scariest of all /x/ theories.

>>42518803
>believe in tales unironically as well
what tales? lol. ESL much? And then goes on the internet telling others what to do

>>42522634
The guy he's responding to is newer than him by years if he was seriously propping that shit up as anything other than that one Redditor's novel.

>>42510049
>First, if it's real our ancestors should have discovered it long ago and mastered it
Chinese people did this with learning how to become gods through Taoist cultivation. I think Taoist metaphysics are the most accurate description of reality/metaphysics that humans have found.

I think Chinese people and various traditions of Indian spirituality and their practitioners/yogis (though different schools of Indian spirituality tend to have different general goals than Taoist cultivation which emphasizes becoming more powerful and becoming a god) figured out the actual "things that work" in regards to changing your experience of reality and ACTUALLY ascending/transcending. Most new age stuff is a messy rehashing of various (and sometimes conflicting) parts from these systems.

I think the law of attraction stuff is actually real but it's like trying to clean your house with a toothbrush. Actual systems of magic or manipulating/altering and developing your "spirit" or energy body or meridians are what will actually produce real, noticeable changes in reality and you/your abilities. Someone in one of the past cultivation threads on here said that the reason gods are so powerful is because they're born with the ability to move their root chakra. Someone else even said that they used some kind of technique with a name related to lightning or something and killed their neighbor by causing him a heart attack or something.

I think trusting your own instincts/intuition is good, too. I really wonder how these ancient societies like China and India first discovered these techniques and legitimately ascended/transcended up to higher levels of reality. It's so interesting to me. So much is possible.
So, if you're looking for what's actually real, study Taoism & cultivation or yoga. Be careful with yoga though cause its full of grifters and you can get psychosis from "opening up" the wrong things or doing certain things. I think for Taoism too.

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>>42517318
>and was able to see the two realities divide for the few moments before the other consciousness faded.
Something like this is actually discussed in the visual novels Higurashi and Umineko
https://07th-expansion.fandom.com/wiki/Sea_of_Fragments

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>>42523133
>I think trusting your own instincts/intuition is good, too.
I'm not exactly sure how I feel about this on second thought for a few reasons. I don't know how much of our "instincts" or "intuition" is actually the result of habituation (the gradual buildup of specific, repeated actions leading you to become more "used to" something or automatically inclined to doing something a particular way). Buddhism made me notice this, I think it's actually possible to change your "nature" by actively practicing and repeating something for long enough. So I don't know how much of our "nature" is innate or learned.
I also have severe OCD and I hate the saying "trust your gut" because of it. OCD makes your "gut" or instinct feel like a navigation system in a machine like an airplane or a car that's malfunctioning and has a ton of warning lights flashing and beeping. So it's a nightmare to try to understand your "instincts" when you have a disorder that turns them into a giant mess because of overstimulation, such as OCD.
I do legitimately think that the "intuition" is a thing that exists and is maybe like a 6th sense, but if you have something like OCD it's hard to figure out if it's really your intuition telling you something or if it's your disorder.

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Higurashi anon?

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>>42523239
Yup, hello Migga

>>42518992
>>42523133
What do you think about the possibility of shifting permanently to another reality and stay there? This is what many people (myself included actually) want to achieve, and for many it's even about going to a reality that is basically a moment of our own past, for example starting our life again from when we were x years old before a bad event happened, this time that event doesn't happen and we keep on living our life there differently, still remembering our previous adult life as if it had just been a dream.
Is this possible according to you?
I read a few people who claim that they went back a year or two in the past and stayed, but I suspect them of lying.
I want to believe it, but it seems too big, too good to be true.

>>42523757
>What do you think about the possibility of shifting permanently to another reality and stay there?
i feel like this is something that you would just think about as a kid and make up fantasy scenarios about it but not something that is actually possible.
>for example starting our life again from when we were x years old before a bad event happened
if it were possible to do this more repeatedly, people would basically just be stuck in the same life but going back over and over to different moments and trying to replay it to see how things would go differently. it would also probably drive people insane trying to "fix" everything or trying to do it over and over until they get it "perfectly right". i have severe ocd and this is what it's basically like except instead of going back in time i can't COMPLETE tons of ordinary tasks normally without repeatedly altering something about the way I'm doing the task until it feels right. so it would basically probably give people OCD.
>Is this possible according to you?
It seems like something that's just a fantasy. It's very obvious that there are fixed "laws" in place about how reality works. It's best to just think about how you can actually make things get closer to being the way you want with what actual resources you have now.
You can still learn about spirituality, too. There's a lot we don't know about the spiritual side of reality and there really is a lot to be experienced. I think dreams are a good example of this. I've had lots of interesting experiences in my dreams. I think the dream world is like a bridge for us to the spiritual side of reality. Maybe also learn about what things you like in general and focus on them more.

>>42523757
>>42524048
>I think the dream world is like a bridge for us to the spiritual side of reality.
Be careful though and do not blindly trust any "signs" or actual communication you get when you're exploring spirituality. I talked about this earlier in another thread
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>>42510049
Biggest thing to consider is that if ancient people knew about this, then they didn't have the same context to put it in. The second is that if someone REALLY succeeds they won't be around to tell us because who would ever come back to this dump. The little zoomer larpers are delusional liars but I still think there might be something to it.

>>42512973
Even if the farmer listened what reality would he shift to? That farmer is now a King in his reality but he had no idea he could have gone to Hogwarts.

>>42510049
You create quantum reality you don't shift anything.

>>42510049
https://youtube.com/shorts/G1nKTfbzr4s?si=mWwgKjIFBnBM94EK

>>42522662
>>42517323
you are/he is yapping. my brother lost consciousness and almost died once because of CO poisoning. there was nothing. no sense of time. no dreams. nothing. it was just a blank then jumped to when we woke him up.

>>42523757
Im the one who posted >>42518992


You may notice people posting the words "i think"
That ain't me.
I hypothesize and speculate but otherwise I don't think; i either know or know that I do not know
I have experience enough to know that my opinion is not the basis for reality.

https://youtu.be/j2_dJY_mIys

There is a lot that can be determined by observation and introspection.
Once you have direct observation you can extrapolate the knowledge that you have certainty of to begin to conceive of the parameters of our existence beyond the obvious linear physical context.

For many people the problem with perception is that they usually don't

>>42517318
>>42517323
>i once took a bullet to the face
>just to be clear it never happened but it could have
lmfaoooo i legit cracked the fuck up thanks anon

>>42525928
That's the problem with this.. everyone is going through the process on occasion and not events noticing because, like you, they are both unintelligent and unperceptive.
It didn't happen in this bosonic field alignment. It literally pivoted off of the Higgs field.. it literally being the entire universe.. and the Higgs field being the foundation of consciousness.

All life forms are going through this.. and then there are variations of life that have advanced technology that have bearing on consciousness and the apparently physical universe in ways that people like you are unable to comprehend.

Laughter is overstimulation of the brain.. this is why laughter is the nervous response of being tickled and it is also the reason why humor is based on guiding the mind to model one set of conditions and then providing additional details that conflict with the inner cognitive imagery model within the mind. The brain builds one version of a mental model of reality and then the punchline makes that mental model overlap with another version resulting in overstimulation of the brain.
The beings from the stars don't share our sense of humor; they see the failings of our minds.. they view us as having potential but for most of us we are far away from realizing any of that potential.

Look at the limits of your ability to receive this information.. it's only funny because you don't actually understand.. you seem to think you do but without direct observation of the phenomenon you are cognitively speculating.. in other words guessing.

If you were to examine your own memories thoroughly you would most likely find examples that you would be suspicious of.. as potential events that may have been impacted by this phenomenon.

>>42525928
All lifeforms are going through divisions between events that isolate their entire extended biological presence into the confines of unique bosonic fields.. and you are only seeing one of these. There are beings who have technology that causes them to be able to observe the entire spectrum of bosonic fields affect by the presence of life.

There's always going to be the shortbus kids who will laugh instead of comprehend

>>42526096
>fields affected by..

>>42526093
I have seen a few posts from you and I wanted to ask how it works for people with aphantasia. I have it. Am I a psychic null or something?

>>42524048
So it's possible to shift but not possible to stay there? Why?

>>42522607
I think it was more of just shifting a different body to this timeline. We likely have avatars on different timelines going through the motions without any real awareness. Then people just shift in and out of those avatars.
And when needed, pull out a fresh avatar for a different timeline.
Like that movie "Us".

>>42527810
There is no there
There is no here
Whereever you go,
There you are
Your physical presence is extending across the range of quantum possibilities but your consciousness is a bosonic field.. not unlikethe Higgs.. the rest of the universe has been lensed around your consciousness for the duration of your existence.. far beyond your current lifetime and physical presence.
You are always going to perceive your own existence.. and those other realms are the result of your own concept of where you are.
You can change your idea of what you are seeing..

>>42527719
Good question.
Wish I could tell you something about that..
I have one relative that passed away who I had been close to.. and completely unique for me there was no connection to him after he had died.. no imagery visitation.. nothing even with light thought towards this..
The one unique thing that did happen, as opposed to not happening, was that three days before he died I was fully conscious while onboard as the beings returned me to either my body or the place where I had been sleeping..
It's complicated I guess to explain but they don't always pick up the physical body.. sometimes they just take the consciousness from within it.

I used to work with the beings while fully conscious.. so i saw how it goes.. but i quit staying fully focused on the reality and have been living like everyone else does by drifting in a daydream like state during the visits for almost 20 years now.

>>42527719
>>42527901
I have remained focused on the distractions of this world and found a lot of information and insight but have not been staying fully conscious during the visits.. so it was unusual.. i became conscious while watching the reflection of lights on the surface below the vehicle.. at first it seemed like it was a river and then i became more conscious of the reality.. i was looking at a slightly rainy road from above watching the cars headlights reflecting on the water.. there was a small vehicle that was flying outside the vehicle I was in.. and it was while I was looking at it that I suddenly got back into my old aware state of mind. At first I dismissing the thing as a normal ultralight aircraft but I noticed it had no wings right before it moved so far away it was a tiny point some many thousands of meters away and it was at that moment I was clearly fully oriented and pulled out of the daydream like illusion that people are usually stuck in while onboard

I saw flight path and descent to the rear of the house and the vehicle tear the hole in the high edge of the rear of the living room.. and then I saw the being responsible for putting me back clearly as I passed by him through the opening.. not a subtle glimpse but clear well oriented visual awareness although with some blind spots

Point is I have not been doing this on a regular basis for years.. clearly something was different to cause the coincidence of timing

Hard to say exactly what because I don't have full recollection of the previous events

Anyway what i am suggesting is that he also was affected by aphantasia. Very immediate and tactile.. sensate not intuitive.. I'm not able to offer solid knowledge.
When I don't know I aim to be honest with myself about this and to examine all possible sources of knowledge and potential knowledge

>>42527719
>>42527901
In the absence of certain knowledge we can speculate in vast ranges of possibilities
We can even imagine that they all must somehow be relevant in reality.. but there is a massive difference between i think and i know

Belief is absolute pretense and should be avoided

My first guess was always that people who have aphantasia are simply not remembering.. but even the tiny bit of data i have on the subject seems to indicate that there is something else going on.

Usually I have seen anyone I was close to after they passed.. some form of visit or moment to communicate with them before they go through the full process that makes them forget..

With that one person it was nothing. No visions or visits of any kind. Odd from the context of how much experience I had with this otherwise

>>42527901
Thanks anon. It's a bit scary if your relative didn't visit you because it might mean he had no soul but that's speculative.

>>42527901
>Your physical presence is extending across the range of quantum possibilities but your consciousness is a bosonic field (...)
I don't understand your answer...

Aren't manifesting and revision just that, sliding to a slightly different reality and staying there?

>>42525042
Only like 25 percent of people experience OBE/NDE. Your bro is an a spiritless human. A flesh mechanon

>>42529039
I had to get into the concepts of physics comprehend the types of things that the beings were showing me or causing me to see. I was waiting for years before I saw the public sector physicists getting to the same points i had determined in the 1990s.

All physical possibilities are happening. Your consciousness is seeing only one due to its own connection to the physical plane..
A lot more is riding on that connection than is physically obvious

As I pointed out here >>42517318

>>42529618
>I had to get into the concepts of physics in order to comprehend

>>42525042
Thats because hylics have no souls, they are just flesh and thats it

>>42517318
Insane.