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A form of Christianity which incorporates elements of Satanism, in particular its ethical values like:
>indulgence
>vitality
>vengeance
>self-honesty
>self responsibility
>master morality
Christ is King. Hail Satan.
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>>42512305
ok im not that guy that always taunts with "have fun burning" posts on /his/ but holy shit dude genuinely i hope you will enjoy burning, cause what the fuck.
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>>42512328
Ok, so I may be slightly heterodox and unconventional, so what?
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Congratulations, you have reinvented theistic satanism
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I mean isn't part of the christcuck path to have a de-personalization phase when they realize Christ is Lucifer/Morning Star?
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>>42512394
No, actually, and although the Exsultet does call Christ Lucifer it explains exactly what it means by this
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>>42512305
Spooky Thread~
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>>42512383
No. But I am influenced by theistic Satanism as well as LeVayan Satanism.
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>>42512566
fixed it a bit
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>>42512305
Lacking balls is fine, but jump straight into a Daemonik Tradition, it's quite probable you werent gonna make it, so Accept Darkness.
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>>42512566
>>42512582
Cool idea
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>>42512305
So... in your opinion, did Jesus known the hebrew language and its mystical implications?

This is actually a really relevant question btw
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>>42512866
There was some users arguing in a past thread about Jesus not being able to read or write.
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>>42512866
Yes, of course he would know. He also fluent in aramaic and also greek because he lived in Galilee and Egypt for big parts of his life.
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Satanism is rebelling.
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>>42512305
keyed
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>>42512305
>Literally just combining good and evil to be the best person you can be
>Have to make it a edgy larp about le satanism and christ.
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>>42513117
What would you have it be?
Post your ideas.
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>>42513117
>Literally just combining good and evil to be the best person you can be
No, it is more than that. Christ commanded us to love our enemy. And since Jesus's ultimate enemy was Satan, we have to love Satan the most.
True harmony can only be achieved if Christ and the Antichrist/Satan are reconciled.
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>>42513166
>Jesus's ultimate enemy was Satan
I dont agree with this.
Satan tempted Jesus, but his ultimate enemy was the Jews.
Lucy was just testing Jesus.
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>lets worship a shitty fake God instead of the omnipotent and good real god
Not even Jesus called upon his own authority in his ministry, but the father who sent him. Your confused blasphemies are meaningless compared to knowing God in your heart.
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>>42513166
Evil is reconciled in the Good and through the Good by ceasing to exist
"For the devil has come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time."
Repent of your sins so that you may partake in eternal life.
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>>42513209
No, "Evil" is to be integrated into "Good". Satan will cease to exist because Satan means "adversary" and in the end we will simply meet him halfway so he ceases to be our adversary/satan.
So I ask you to love your enemy. Do good to those who hate you. So you can be the son of your father.
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Why are we practicing abrahamism when Lilitunick is in your head!
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>>42513229
I'm only really into satan though. Some people do need jesus, but I needed satan energy to take back and embrace my own autonomy.
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>>42513248
Nothing wrong with that.
As a follower of Christ I am called to reconcile opposites and transcend conflict. For that reason I decided to take Satan as my fellow brother and embrace him and love him as I love God and Christ. To become his collaborator.
For me it's the ultimate key to spiritual integration: loving the Satanic force.
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>>42513165
It already exists. Carl Jung for example with facing the shadow self. Or the original intention of Freemasonry. Or Ancient Roman, Pagan and Egyptian seasonal spring rites. And as much as the guy below you is being an edgy faggot he is on the right track, to reject the evil you have in you outright and to ignore it will just cause it to grow stronger and resentful. You have to accept it and find a way to bring it into you or else it will control you like pic related from your subconscious the more you deny your true nature. And when it controls you it will do horrible things without the limits of your conscious morality to keep it in check.

>>42513166
>Manson
Ok, so you are just doing this to be an edgy boy. Got it.
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>>42513273
*Presents hand for a Handshake*
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>>42513307
As a Christian I see Satanists as my brothers. All are one in Christ. And to be a trve Christian I have to be as satanic as possible.
>>42513304
>Ok, so you are just doing this to be an edgy boy. Got it.
He didn't do nothing. It was the trial before Pilate all over again.
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Why don't you just take the morals that you like and move to Atheism?
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>>42513229
The purpose of loving your enemy isnt to make them your friend. It's to extend your love as far as possible. Relishing in immorality is not lobe, it's a state completely outside of it. Again, you're in a confused state and should say sorry to God.
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>>42513454
>The purpose of loving your enemy isnt to make them your friend.
Then what is the purpose? If love is not ultimately aimed at reconciliation, then what distinguishes it from mere tolerance or benevolence?
If you truly love your enemy, you must desire the end of enmity itself.
Christ commands us to forgive -> Forgiveness restores relationships -> Therefore the highest form of love must be reconciliation.
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>>42513537
The issue is that love that only goes one way is a path to destruction. Lucifer in tradional Christian texts is a black hole.
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>>42513626
Christ never conditioned love on reciprocity though, and that's exactly the point. It would be easy to love someone when that love costs you nothing, but the Christ said:
>You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy
>But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute
If I wait for Satan to become lovable before I love him, then I have understood nothing of Christ's teaching.
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>>42513626
Love You.
^_^
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>>42513643
Jesus also said to sell your cloak and buy a sword, don't be a pussy bitch and let evil walk all over you.
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>>42513703
>Jesus also said to sell your cloak and buy a sword, don't be a pussy bitch and let evil walk all over you.
I don't. Instead I am activly trying to become more "evil", because love requires understanding, and understanding Satan eventually becomes participation in Satan.
You see this is the ultimate test case; if Satan can become a brother, then the commandment has succeeded completely.
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>>42512305
Just get into Thelema
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>>42512305
sick and retarded inversion of Abrahamism that keeps you trapped in inverted-Abrahamism and maximizes the likelihood of your reverting to regular ol' Abrahamism further down the line. Look into the origins of 'satan' and you'll see they just... made him up.
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I think your take is really interesting OP.
Satan is the ultimate enemy and Jesus did say to love your enemy and bless those who curse you. That's clearly the final boss, loving and forgiving the devil himself.

On the other hand, Christianity is clear that there's only one master and that is Christ. You can't emulate Christ and Satan simultaneously. Christ believes in turning the other cheek and Satan believes in tooth for tooth and skin for skin. The two seem irreconcilable to me.

What do you think?
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Gracious goodness
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>>42513838
Think of it in dialectics. Christianity (thesis) + Satanism (antithesis) = Christo-Satanism (synthesis).
I also think you are simplifying these archetypes a bit too much. Jesus is more so about judgment, confrontation of hypocrisy, overturning tables, and apocalyptic separation, I see him as a kind if proto-Charles Manson fighting against the system of his time.
Satan also is NOT just about vengeance and revenge but also about testing, tempering and accusing.
And when Jesus commands to love your enemy, the way I see it, Satan (the ultimate enemy) CANNOT be excluded from that command. If you read through my thread this transcendental love beyond good and evil is very important to me.
So I don't know how to say it the best but I am less so trying emulate two moral systems but rather I try to understand what it means to obey Christ’s command fully, not selectively, which in turn makes me adopt many satanic values and viewpoints since reconciliation for me is about integration.
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>>42513884
Oh I"m with you there, you must love Satan.
No ifs ands or buts.
>If you love me keep my commandments
It's not optional.

I guess my point is moreso the natural man IS Satan.
You're already Satan.
I'm already Satan.
We've all sinned. To break one law is to break them all, errgo there is no difference between anyone and Satan in terms of "evil".

With that in mind I think we should strive to emulate Christ rather than Satan. Just as I'd say you should emulate Christ and not me. Or Christ and not (insert person here)
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>>42513909
>I guess my point is moreso the natural man IS Satan.
And I agree. For me Satan is also about either transcending or going below the human condition. His followers include criminal degenerates and scumbags as well as occultists and mystics who seek to become like gods.
But I don't think that the average lemming that lives in comfort and worships the news and state as their God is exactly satanic (or christlike) either.
I think it depends more on your situation and nature which you should focus more on.
Be either good or evil and follow your path all the way. I personally love both Jesus and Satan. But don't be lukewarm like the masses. If you are gonna be something be it all the way.
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Oxymoron.
Cognitive dissonance.
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>>42513931
Ok I think I see where you're coming from and being like God is not a bad thing.
In an ideal situation active Satanists and active Christians loving and respecting each other is the highest ideal, although I don't know enough about Satanism to know if that's what any of them believe (you'd be equally hard pressed to find Christians willing to do that too) but it is true to Christ's teaching that the whole of the law was kindness.
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>>42513909
>To break one law is to break them all
I disagree here. Running a red light or stop sign is not the same as murder.
Rape is a joke.
Intelligence is in part, breaking the rules in the correct way.
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ofc the jew with his superior genetics has a right to breed people like dogs.
>>42513315
why let that stupid Jew rob me of my right to talk to my maker? That Holy Spirit was not his to give, he was made an example of and wanted to be a spectacle, the only shit i give about the dead tree is for the baal tree that demonic baby will fall from the sky onto.

God did not like that "Son" of his, so he turned him into a pet, a daughter, a bitch. Him and his followers are domesticated and castrated.
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>>42513979
It's less like....criminal law and more the spirit of the law if that makes sense.

How can I call another human being evil and deserve forgiveness for my own evil; it's always hypocritical to do that.

That's why it comes with that story about the guy with the massive debt to the king who gets spared and immediately shakes down someone who owes them money
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Tl;DR OP is a fan of Charles Manson, hyper focusing on the part where Manson said:

>"You have to accept yourself as God. You have to realize you're just the Devil just as much as you're God, that you're everything and you're nothing at all".

Which is called "All-or-Nothing Thinking", a cognitive distortion where situations, people, or outcomes are viewed in extreme, absolute terms with no middle ground. OP is mystified by Manson's unoriginal idea: "All or nothing? Hmm. How about All AND Nothing!" And OP thinks of it as a genius breakthrough, when in reality it's another cognitive hiccup, a failure to simply perceive middle ground, an attempt to create middle ground by using two extreme polarity. Still blind. Commonly it is a delusion that people with ADHD suffer or those with other maladies like OCD or Psychopathy. This rigid mindset distorts reality, prevents nuanced problem-solving, and fuels anxiety, perfectionism, and procrastination.

OP takes this cognitive delusion and applies it to what he feels to be a dualism of God vs Devil or Christ vs Devil and, rather than think for himself, mimicks his idol, Manson by repeating the Christ & Devil gimmick.
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>>42514045
that sounds like what you're doing.

Just because he mentions Charles Manson doesn't mean his entire religious identity revolves around Charles Manson.
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>>42514045
Thanks Dr. Chatgpt!
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>>42514005
>How can I call another human being evil and deserve forgiveness for my own evil; it's always hypocritical to do that.
I never taught people to do that, you can't undo the past and that is what Jesus taught. It has its home in falsehood along with Jesus Christ himself, the mascot of Rome.
>Might makes Right now look at our dead jew on a stick
lmfao, they're the biggest cucks ever. Now go DIE FOR ISRAEL cause your god-man guru-jeet tier shitskin teacher said so. He was sodomized by a 17 year old boy before his crucifiction.
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>>42512305
Are you retarded?
>Christ is born
>"I am your God"
>performs miracles to prove it
>Dies for everyone's sins
>"Follow me, and you too will inherit the kingdom of heaven, which is pretty rad"
>Literally have a book of everything God tells you what to do and not do.
>Random anon believes this and chooses to do exactly what God says will make him go to hell
Next level retardation.
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>>42514005
>How can I call another human being evil and deserve forgiveness for my own evil; it's always hypocritical to do that.
"Evil" and "Good" are weird skewed words.
What is Evil what is Good, everyone's definition would be different based on their morality.
So it is kind of Vague to use, I don't like it.
>How can I call another human being evil and deserve forgiveness for my own evil; it's always hypocritical to do that.
If someone was inherently good, they could test and judge others without hypocrisy.
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>>42513537
Forgiveness requires contrition. Jesus says to forgive a man who asks 77 times, but Satan does not attempt to reconcile with humanity. You're literally sinning and committing blasphemy for the sake of a demon that hates humanity. You aren't living Satan, the way to love Satan would be to destroy him because then his existence would align with God. Angels have a perfect capacity for reason, and you're trying to engage with God and angels on the scale of your mind. It's just as impossible as solving a math equation with your sight but without thinking at all. "The foolishness of God is more wise than the wisdom of men". You're falling into the devil's trap. Christs blessing of forgiveness is only extended to one another as humans, not to demons. It is not our place to forgive a sin that was committed against the blessed holy one, only sins committed against ourselves. Satan would need to repent to God, but he obviously isn't doing so.
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>>42514075
>If someone was inherently good, they could test and judge others without hypocrisy.
One of the central tennents of Christianity is "No man is good."

Not even Jesus Christ said "Oh yeah, I'm good."

Probably for the same reason you point out, "good" and "evil" are weird and subjective terms.
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>>42513969
>In an ideal situation active Satanists and active Christians loving and respecting each other is the highest ideal

Christians are called to do exactly that. The problem is Satanists don't return the same piety. But that's not a problem for Christians who apply the faith, they already know they will receive nothing in return from the Satanist and will choose to respect and love the Satanist anyway, because what you receive for free, you give for free. Christ loved and forgave for free, so the Christian gives it to the Satanist for free.

I am speaking of Christians who truly follow the example of Christ. Many Christians fail at it, I fail at it. It's a very tough act to follow especially when the person you are trying to give piety to may anger you. This is because just like the Satanist we are humans, we are prone to wrath, lust, greed, envy, hate the exact same way as they are. In sin we have common ground. The problem with many Christians is they can be zealous, prideful, arrogant and hypocritical and refuse to acknowledge the common ground.

Ultimately within Satanism their view does not encompass self & other. Only self. They only see with the left eye. In Christianity it is both self & other, both eyes open.
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>>42514102
I like to think I've got it down. I focused pretty hard on the unconditional love part and after a while I think I found the key.
>forgive them Father for they know not what they do.

If we were all omniscient we'd know exactly why and how to do everything correctly and we'd have all the "right" opinions.

We'd be perfectly aligned with God. So when I see someone who is waaaaaaaaay hard to like let alone love I just tell myself "They're ignorant."

It takes a lot of the sting of the behavior out. It's like hating a baby for crying and pooping itself. It doesn't know better, it's a baby.
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>>42514099
>One of the central tennents of Christianity is
Link biblical quotes.
>Not even Jesus Christ said "Oh yeah, I'm good.
He said he could judge people. And others said he was good.
"He said:
"Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone." (Mark 10:18)"
But the bible also says:
"He committed no sin." (Peter 2:22)
"In him there is no sin." (John 3:5)
and
"I am the good shepherd." (John 10:11)
So Jesus was obviously making a point to the man he was talking to and you are missing context.
If Jesus believed He was not good, calling Himself "the good shepherd" would make little sense.
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>>42514130
No one is good except God alone.

and

No man is good.

Are identical statements. A lot of his stuff has double and triple meanings and this is super good for education but it's also super bad for easily understanding each other lol
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>>42514097
Here is what you people don't get and what was saying this entire time. Christ doesn't say to reconcile with people who try to reconcile with you but to love your enemies.´Not your neighbor, Your ENEMY. The one who fucking hates you and wants you dead.
And who are we to limit the command of Christ?
I think the example of Christ is the best example. He didn't smite the roman soldiery, masses or pharisees but transformed their evil into his greatest victory over death and such.
All I am saying is that if love is only extended after moral correction, then that "love" is not grace but more like a reward system.
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>>42514130
The eternal divinity is "Good" itself. Jesus is just making a play on words. It's very different for something to be good at one function versus being the Good itself. One is an afterimage of the first.
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>>42514072
>Next level retardation.
you will make it one day, just keep sucking on the penises of gay jews. That will get you up there on the cross so you can be like him on day.
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>>42514151
The Scene (Mark 10:17-22)
A man runs up to Jesus, kneels before Him, and asks:
"Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?"
Jesus immediately replies:
"Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone."
You don't understand context. You are focused on a quote.
~Trapped in Black~
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>>42514124
>If we were all omniscient we'd know exactly why and how to do everything correctly and we'd have all the "right" opinions.

Yeah I know. I remember when I stopped being an atheistic-occultist and had become Christian. Tried getting into some Christian communities, new to the faith. I was honestly shocked at some of the things I had seen from laity of some churches and communities. They were being pestered by a self identifying Satanist who was provocative, angry, accusatory. The guy invite himself into the community to show disdain for Christians, but let slip he was dealing with a bad and horrible background, a real rough hand in life.

I was hoping to see piety, mercy, forgiveness and Christ like behaviour in response. Instead they just dogpile verbally telling him he is a freak should burn in hell, will never know God, isn't wanted, is evil, the whole slew of it.

I felt sick to my stomach seeing it. I didn't enjoy the Satanist's actions but it was easy to tell beneath the anger was a cry for help or at least for someone to listen. No one did and I knew that community was one I didn't want a part of, stayed away from that denomination as I didn't see Christ there.
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>>42514171
>Matthew 4:8
Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.
>He was taken
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>>42514159
You misunderstand the point. Love is not the same as permissiveness towards moral weakness. Love is the act of bringing yourself and others into communion with God because the very existence of Love is in God. Those that sin and turn themselves away from God cannot love, they can only be loved. We are merely an extension of the divine will to imbue everything with goodness. To that effect, our love seeks the betterment in all things. We do this to sinners by engaging in virtue and forgiveness with them. If you want to love the devils, pray for their hearts to turn back to God. You cannot be in God and be in Sin. Every step towards sin is a step away from God.
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>>42514171
Then explain what you mean.
To me it's a double meaning.
A) Nigga I'm God but you can't know that so don't call me good because
B) No man is good as a general principle.
and
C) even if it were possible to be good by the time you think of yourself as good, that's implying your work is done and now you're bad.

>>42514174
Yeah it's unfortunate a lot of people think
>Well I am good and they're bad or dumb
and that's as far as they take it so if you don't line up with their dogma or as in your story are actively a Satanist or at least claiming to be that person is AN EVIL SINNER AND DAVID SAID TO HATE THEM

nevermind that David was just a man, it feels good to be hateful so they do it.
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>>42514203
Right after he tells him to give up a bunch of his shit, and the dude is sad because he is rich.
Basically Jesus was just telling the man to be a better person without a wall of text.
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>>42514198
But at this point you are defining love as "communion with God" and anything outside that communion as “not love". But that's your definition and their definition.
So your "love" is not actual love but correction toward a pre-approved endpoint. But that's not exactly the definition of love.
For me love is getting down with someone, having a drink, trying to understand their position and frameworks, and if you really love that person unconditionally, understand and accept them for what they are.
Now thinking about it I get that if you'd love someone you'd want to get them off drugs (sin) and into rehab (narrow path towards heaven) so I get your logic.
But I don't really take the bible as infallible either. Now I do love God. But at the end of the day the bible was a book written by HIS prophets for HIS followers by HIS words. I think we can get a greater perspective if we listen to His disgraced former second-in-command and what he and his followers have to say.
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>>42514211
Better sure but not good.
When he says "Good shepherd" it's in the context of laying his life down for the flock not that he's "good" although after his death it became doctrine that he was sinless running around saying he was good would defeat the purpose of his teaching imo. It sounds like vanity because in all cases but Jesus's it is.
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>>42514229
This, we're told to preach the gospel to every creature.

Not every human, every creature. That means a dog should be able to understand the gospel.

Which means it's actions, not words. It's not brow beating your Satanist friend about Jesus when you know they don't want to hear that.

You have a higher chance of convincing them your way of life is right by being a good example than by brow beating them.
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>>42514229
You just need to have faith. You don't need anything but God. Everything comes from God, even Love. Love without God is like a day without the Sun. If there is no God there would be no Love. By the contrapositive, wherever there is love there is God. Therefore it's literally the same to hold God above all things and hold Love above all things. You're just in confusion from the Devil's charms trying to pervert your reason.
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>>42514259
I should articulate more clearly that the presence of love on earth is the holy spirit so equivocating love with God isn't idolatry even if it doesn't encompass the entire scope of God's greatness it is an aspect of God's greatness and thus IS the being of God after a fashion.
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>>42514259
>>42514292
And I do feel the love of God moving to me. Someone ITT said "Oxymoron.
Cognitive dissonance" and for me this always something to be worked out, reconciliated and digested rather than dismissed.
I don't like choosing a side, I reject Rothschildian duality wars, I'd rather be the one to built a bridge and extent my hand.
My heart may be the only one in this world that genuinly loves both Christ and Satan equally and tries to integrate both of their viewpoints and perspectives into my Weltanschauung.
>If two make peace with each other in a single house, they will say to the mountain, 'Move from here!' and it will move. -Gospel of Thomas
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>>42514326
And I should also add that I don't really view the conflict to be between God and Satan but between Adam and Satan with God lending a helping hand through Christ who is his emissary. So it is up to us to reconcile with our arch-nemisis.
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>>42514326
>>42514334
Your arch-nemesis, Satan, does not want to reconcile with you. You repeatedly miss out the important factor: The will of Satan. It is not Satan's will to be reconciled with either (you) or God. Reconciliation requires two individuals or entities to mutually decide to rejoin. If only 1 (one) party desires reconciliation and the other doesn't, there can be no reconciliation no matter how much you beg, plead, beg, cry, pray, or fight.

Satan vehemently rejected God because he hated that God accepted (you). He hates you as a consequence of this. That was precisely why Satan had convinced man to fall, to gain unearned wisdom, to fracture man spiritually, targeting man & even his beloved, his woman. He did not care, anon. And he didn't want to stop there, the next goal was to convince man to then eat of the tree of life, so that man would enter premature immortality so that original sin would be eternal, man's brokenness eternal, forever broken. For what? What did we do to Satan to earn such wrath? We were spiritual infants, no knowledge of good and evil. Satan defiled us anyway, saw to our disgrace and hoped for our eternal ruin. Over his pride, he hated us for simply existing. Our existence hurt his pride because we were made in God's image and he was not.

Imagine that in human terms. You are a baby or toddler, and an adult violently attacks you to cripple your small body beyond repair in prideful anger. Because he is no longer feeling important now that you are stealing a bit of love and care from the father.

That's Satan, that's the one you wish to reconcile with. He has zero interest in that.
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>>42514211
>lucifer
that is a front too, those things do not look like us.
>You can't be told it, you have to see it.
So whatever Jesus and his followers did was planned. I think matthew was made up and jesus did not say alot of that stuff.
>pay your taxes
>obey your government
that is what paul turned him into. I could care less about a retarded jew that wanted to take credit for creation. They took him to the engine room to serve.
>Gay Pride month

The masculine Yesod collects the vital forces of the sephirot above, and transmits these creative and vital energies into the feminine Malkuth below. Yesod channels, Malkuth receives. In turn, it is through Malkuth that the earth is able to interact with the divinity.[6]

Yesod plays the role of collecting and balancing the different and opposing energies of Hod and Netzach, and also from Tiferet above it, storing and distributing it throughout the world. It is likened to the 'engine-room' of creation. The Cherubim is the angelic choir connected to Yesod
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>>42514372
Yes, but that's what the Church and bible says who clearly picked the side of YHWH. I am much more interested in what the heretics and satanists of this world have to say instead of dismissing them outright.
Now if one of the most powerful angels found a reason for rebellion and also managed to get a third of all angels in total on his side there must have been valid reason for rebellion. I respect God and see myself as mostly loyal and try to do right by him without betraying my own values, but this alone proves at least to me he is not infallible.
So I am operating very far outside Christian orthodoxy and I like to hear out both sides and I think both of them have some very good points. The difference is I don't think we have to choose but should overcome our differences and meet in the middle.
So Jesus has to become more like Satan and Satan more like Christ.
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>>42514072

Based post.

Literally just follow Jesus. Read the Bible. Simple.
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>>42514415
Based. Blessed be the mind too small for doubt. A tiny mind is a tidy mind.
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>>42514395
>I am much more interested in what the heretics and satanists of this world have to say
The LaVeyans will tell you none of it is real, but the symbols are real and you should embody the symbol of Satan to be a contrarian bootleg Temu Nihilist.

The theological satanists will tell you it is real, will tell you to pick up where Satan finished, and to go and carry out some form of warfare against followers of Christ, either physical, psychological or spiritual ranging from direct attack or covert torment.

The luciferian will tell you the script is flipped upside down, God was the tyrannical bad guy, the one who didn't want you to gain any wisdom or intellect, and Lucifer (Satan) dared to defy God to give you a fighting chance and a fair shot at enlightenment and that's why he told you to eat of the fruit of knowledge. (Bootleg Prometheus story).

You won't find anything compelling among the Satanists of this world as far as their philosophy goes. Because it either relies on Biblical scripture only inaccurately twisted, or no Biblical basis at all, gnostic-tier babble that has no interest in authenticating their own core tenets of thought, a labyrinth of rumination and mystic woo that leads you in circles.

You are free to try it all, but you'll find out it's futile.
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>>42514431
I find LeVay to be very compelling since I find his biggest influence (Might Is Right) by Ragnar Redbeard to be compelling. I also find the promethean narrative to be very compelling. Just as I find egoism and objectivism to be very compelling as well and while I ultimatly rejected gnosticism, it was also a very interesting read making some good points.
I personally adopted LeVayan ethics and even a few Myattian sinister-numinious dialectics and morals.
That's exactly why I call myself Christo-Satanist or "God's most loyal opposition".
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BADASS
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>>42514379
>those things do not look like us.
What do they look like, and what proof do you have?
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>>42514464
its everywhere.
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>>42514454
You know you are allowed to be an egotist and a Christian at the same time right? You don't need to appeal to the Satanic or LaVey for that. There's many saints who had big egos, their large ego was their cross and burden to carry and they carried to the grave. But they used ego to glorify God, to take what is selfish but transmute it into a selfless outcome. A good example for this would be Saint Paul or King Solomon. If you are a self centered egotist, it's whatever as far as God is concerned. God just wants you to wield that in a way that is alignment with His will. That's literally it. You don't want to bow to man or beast? No bowing to nation or flag? No bowing to a single worldly power, only focusing on your own power? OK, that's not a problem. God has no issue with that and it means you'd be over half way there to the ideal position: Rejection of the world. The last tidbit the only objective left to do is to at the very least bow to God, and only God, no one else. Why? Because logic dictates that because he gave you legs to stand and a mind to wield power, you'd be wise to show fealty to that source of power. If you love God out of selfless interest or self interest, doesn't matter to God. God cares about the outcome.

It's like you're a single foot away from the finish line but you get stuck in this Satanist angle. Be quit of it and just rely on God
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>>42514509
>you'd be wise to show fealty to that source of power
And I do regard myself as loyal, or at least not activly opposing him. Think of me more like a rogue offical having unsanctioned secret peace talks with the enemy. But I digress.
>It's like you're a single foot away from the finish line but you get stuck in this Satanist angle
Yes, I call it enlightement. However Satanism on its own mostly ends up directionless and chaotic, while Christianity on its own also has immense problems. It is through combining them into a greater whole that something superior can be created, combining a crusader's zeal with hedonism and master morality.
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>>42514557
enlightenment*
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>>42514454
>>42514509
I'll leave you with this fun thought OP. Some men want to be angels, some men want to be demons. Some men just want to be men. Other men admire the resolve of the angel and the boldness of a demon and do not know what to aim for. Hard headed & stone hearted, stubborn. Can't have wings like an angel, they would just plummet. Can't be a fiery demon either, too dense for that. What to do, what to do. Gargoyle, bro. Just be one of those. The Gargoyle is a ghoulish creature of stone, perched on cathedrals or churches. They look demonic on the surface but that's by design to scare the shit out of demons. Has the ferocity of a demon but the fealty of an angel, God's scarecrow, something in between. An angel that did not fall, but descended for a purpose, to serve God in a strange way.

If that's your thing just do that.
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>>42514576
Interesting. But I am not just a Christian that wants to show some teeth. Its about reconciliation and having sympathy for the devil. See>>42513273
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>>42514420

Blessed are those who believe but have not seen.
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>>42514584
You can have sympathy for the devil but just understand it's theologically a dead end. That's not God's doing, that's the devil's eternal preference, his decision was eternally made, his mind cannot be changed. You'll be beating your head against brimstone for about as long waiting for a spirit of reconciliation from the devil. You ever met someone who was dating an absolute psycho? Like a guy who is with a chick who is disrespectful to him non stop? Controlling and jealous yet somehow despite the jealousy has the habit of cheating him again and again and he keeps taking her back and thinks she is gonna change any day now and she never does? And you just sit there thinking "my god when is this dude gonna out 2 + 2 together and realize he is being played?"

That's the same deal here waiting for reconciliation from the devil, same 'energy'. Don't be that guy for the devil it's a waste of your time. Take care bro
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>>42514326
>And I do feel the love of God moving to me.
If you pull a rope that is attached to a boulder, it makes your body feel as though you are pulling backward. All it is really doing, though is drawing you forward.

> “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
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>>42514584
>I am not just a Christian that wants to show some teeth.
you face change lion-like?
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>>42512305
Your soul with be obliterated, perpetually, eternally, in hell. Just as a heads up.
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>>42512305
???
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>>42515449
shut up satan's little sock puppet. He is using your dead jewish guru-god pajeet teir god man as a cock sleeve.
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>>42515519
Can you really believe of yourself that the uncouth words you speak come from God?
"You will know them by their fruits"
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>>42512383
GNOSTIC LUCIFERIANISM
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>>42515717
Make New Words~
That's what the Jews do.
Look up some Latin.
Ask the Ai to halp.
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>>42515737
Anything that reflects the goodness of God is beyond mere words.
Just a classic tactic of the devil's perverted reason
This is why God merely says "I am what I am' to Moses. Divine kniwledge inherently defies description. The entire bible exists to praise God because we cannot call It by name. Each psalm descends deeper and deeper into divine love. "I come not to abolish the law but to fulfill it"
"Before Abraham was, I am"
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>>42515760
You are quoting text that was translated from Hebrew or Greek.
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>>42515766
I've gone into the hardest parts of the bible to interpet and read the greek and translated it for myself. There are some orthodox translations i strongly disagree with, like the "so-called son of God", but to appeal to my ignorance is presumptive.
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>>42515780
Just saying your point is moot.
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>>42515814
That doesn't make sense. The fact that language is an arbitrary vector for divine truth just demonstrates the fact that God supercedes description, proving my point on a deeper level.
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>>42513744
This is the ultimate betrayal of your retardation. I know that you'll never heed any actual wisdom, and this ideology only exists to justify your personal complexes, but this really needs to be said: becoming "more evil" in order to fulfill your idea of philosophical/moral completion does no such thing whatsoever. You have not once expounded any teaching of Christ other than one of the most trodden platitudes everybody hears from toddler-age onwards. Believe it or not, Christ did reconcile himself with Satan - it was called the temptation, and after 40 days in the desert, he accepted that evil, and he overcame it in order to fulfill scripture. You are constantly running defense for luciferian philosophy, but you are completely and utterly naked on the matter of scripture. Either way, you are an archonic-slave of matter, and it is highly unlikely that you will ever be one with the Noumena.
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>>42515824
TRVTHNVKE
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>>42512305

Klingon Jesus is better. Is today a good day to die?
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>not leaving the abrahamic framework demiurge soul trap duality

ngmi
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>>42514454
https://abglodge.org/blog/post-15/
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>>42515824
I said to make new words.
Use Latin to make them.
You said the words are good enough as is.
If that was true you would be using the Hebrew or Greek instead of English.
Point is moot.
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cringe and larp as well, you will burn in hell.
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>>42512305
A wild concept, but I'm open to it if you guys don't do some of the really stupid bullshit some satanists do and take the path of what I deem satanism lite. I always believed that tolerance is superior to bashing those you don't understand, for in all cases, there is probably a lesson to be learned and applied, or a valid perspective, that you may not share, might be wise in some cases.
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>>42517069
God and Jesus say we good.
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>>42517069
I say the same about your existence and use of tripcode.
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>>42516987
Language changes but that doesnt mean it's innovated.
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>>42515851
>and this ideology only exists to justify your personal complexes
I am just a guy who got fed up with the hypocrisy and weakness of mainstream Christianity.
Yet I also have outgrown my anti-Christian phase after realizing Jesus was a lone wolf charismatic leader fighting the system.
Put that cock out of your mouth. You must be retarded if you think someone calling himself a Christo-SATANIST would see the good book as infallible.
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>>42517645
Where did the word anti-Semitism come from?
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>>42518415
>judging Christianity by the "mainstream" and not by the true believers
“Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."
Follow the examples of the Saints, not the example of self assured contemporaries.
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>>42518787
I despise most Christian saints for subverting superior societies.
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>>42518801
then worship those societies instead of Christ and stop taking the name of God in vain. Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is the only unforgivable sin.
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>>42518818
I don't think I will. Christ was great (and the emissary of God). He did subvert a society but it was a society that was lesser to him therefore I support him.
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>>42518825
Away, Satan
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>>42518958
Nah. I got spiritual protection from both Christ AND Satan. What are you gonna do about it, little nigger?
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>>42518801
Western society, the pinnacle of civilization, came to be and peaked under Christianity.
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>>42518975
Which is why I incorporate elements from Christian identity into my Satanism (making it Christo-Satanism) and dismissing all the useless.
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>>42518972
"No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other."
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>>42519030
See>>42518415
I don't believe in biblical infallibility + I believe Christ and Satan will reconcile and merge into one being at the end of time.
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>>42519043
You believe in lies instead of truth, and confusion instead of reason. Do you truly not see this?
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>>42519057
No hoary falsehood shall be a truth to me; no stifling dogma shall encramp my pen
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>>42519064
A house without walls is nothing at all
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>>42519085
I merely request reason for your golden rule and ask the why and wherefore of your ten commandments.
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>>42519120
I refuse. Reason is subordinate to Love. Devils and Christ are both capable of reason but only Christ is capable of Love. This is because Love is the greater of the two. Just because two people of sufficient intelligence can tie every game of tic tac toe doesn't mean that both are equally intelligent. It merely demonstrates the limits of the game. Reason is the same. Lowering the truths of God to pure Reason does a disservice to their true enormity. The devil has his tricks and his words, but God has everything and more.
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>>42519153
This!
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>>42519153
And I take the love God gifts to me by his Grace, listen to his commandments and then give the same love to Satan (who is in the need of it the most).
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>>42519179
And the wheel of your circular reasoning has turned upon itself fruitlessly
I've failed in the teachings of Christ this past day.
"Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you."
For that I have to repent myself. Goodbye.
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>>42519196
Don't flatter yourself. You're a fucking muppet advocating for humanitarian nonsense that brought us into this position. I do love Christianity but not for what it is but for what it could be. And to reach its fully potential it has to adopt elements from Satanism and social darwinism.
I wipe my ass with a book written by some retarded desert hippies who don't even lived through the same struggle Christ lived through.
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>>42519196
Also I have yet to fucking rend your ass you stupid fucking pussy. Don't be so fucking dramatic.
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>>42512305
Read this post ASAP:

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1ti4zbg/what_were_up_against/
>TLDR:

>This planet is Bozrah, not Earth. What's more, you should be warning people about the upcoming "day of vengeance" here on Bozrah. Keep in mind that the 1,000-year Millennial Kingdom will take place on Earth, not on Bozrah. This planet will be destroyed (and Jesus will be the destroyer). It has no future.

>Bozrah is basically a replica of Earth. People who have lived here their entire lives NEED to realize—once and for all—that this celestial body was never Earth, and it never will be. It's an impostor planet. And if you have an issue with that, take it up with God, not me. I just speak the truth (nothing more, nothing less).

>Bozrah's human anatomy is distinct enough from Earth's human anatomy that the differences allow me to know, with 100 percent certainty, that this is a different planet. Not 99.99 percent certainty, but literally 100.00 percent certainty. On top of all of that, the speed of time here is a blazing 50 percent faster compared to Earth! Yes, you read that correctly: fifty percent faster (as in 1.5x speed, and thus a day on this planet is only 16 Earth hours long). So, forget about all of the anatomical differences for just a moment; the time difference ALONE allows me to know, with 100 percent certainty, that this is a different planet. Now, ask yourself the following question: Is God not watching each and every person who tries to debunk these differences?



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