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Getting a Physical Calendar has made SR so easy for me. I was already retaining and dirty streaking (edging 2-3 times a day) but once I got a calendar it got so much easier. I get to mark every day that I succeed and it just made something click on my brain.

Get a calendar if you struggle to streak!

Also, does anyone have personal experience with going from Dirty to Clean streaks?

>>42518582
I'm experiment-minded, so after a mind-blowing but difficult first SR experience that lasted for 2 months or so and ended with a mental health episode, I decided to do the opposite. I literally forced myself to coom every single day for about 2 years. I missed a day here or there, I coomed twice now and then, but by the end of it I was in horrible physical shape, suffering mentally worse than on a bad SR mental health episode, and since then I've lasted over 2 months easily on SR and have already gotten in better shape and have noticed other improvements as well. I believe 2 years of SR will be easy compared to 2 years of intentional cooming.

Dreams are starting to get pretty nice, dreamt that hatsune miku was feeding me noodles telling me to say "aah". I used to goon to this character but I find her too pure to pervert now

>>42518519
Day 75

Bit of a shitshow for the last few days. Urges more intense than before, but we maintain.

Earlier in the week, I was fasting (Wednesday) and that day in particular was strange cause I was "tested" multiple times throughout the day. Lots of little situations of people trying to get under my skin/rage-bait me. I passed all of those tests, found a couple of dollars on the ground. But ultimately broke my fast early, should've went straight home, but it happens.

I recommend NOT taking any "testosterone" sups. IMO you don't need KSM-66/Ashwaghanda/Tongkat etc. Your semen will give you the energy that you need. I took KSM-66 in the form of one of those non-carbonated drinks that had some in it. My temperament was hair-thin, still is but not as much as before. Damn near bed-rotted until work cause I was so mad/sad, I didn't complete all of my daily habits for the last few days.

I expect my temperament to return to normal in a day or two. Coming in on 90 days, god willing.

Let's keep it pushing.

Warning to anyone considering this: Use it or lose it. You won't be able to get boners anymore if you do this for too long.
That is not ro say uou should be a fornicator or a gooner. It's just not a young man's game. At least have kids first. If you're an incel and going for full wizard status that's up to you. Except for the incel part obviously.

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>>42518694
You are supposed to use it by meditating and refining the energy

>>42518694
found the jew.

>>42518694
"use it or lose it" is a fucking meme
I have harder boners when I'm on a long SR streak.

>>42518694
Hello rabbi

>>42518719
Same. 100% a meme.

I feel like becoming a retainer. The universe decided for me to wait this long. What should i listen to on youtube?

On day 6, I haven’t drank caffeine for like 5 months and I accidentally just consumed like a 140 mg. Faurk bros.

I stopped NoFap back in November. my gym workouts have been intense. I picked up boxing which has been a huge plus, and my body has become much leaner and more muscular. I also stopped focusing on lifting heavy weights and started prioritizing movement conditioning

Recently my niece passed away, and there was a lot of family drama surrounding it. I didn't really have a healthy way to cope out of frustration I ended up looking at porn. I didnt fap but I'm not sure if that counts as breaking my streak. I still say I haven't fapped since November.

I thought NoFap wasn't anything magical. I wasn't expecting it to suddenly make women interested in me, and I was doing it for myself anyway. But I might have to take that back a little. Just recently, a girl at the gym came up and started talking to me because she recognized me from church and had seen me around the gym several times. She's beautiful great shape, dedicated to fitness. The only thing giving me pause is that she has a child.

It has me wondering whether I should be asking God for a specific woman.

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>>42518582
I’ve been on SR for about 3 or 4 months and continue, but during this whole time, I’ve been having periods where I’d relapse into a so-called 'dirty streak' - specifically, texting with some hoes from dating apps. Honestly, it feels like a total failure to me. I manage to hold out for a while, but then it just hits me. Right now, im stuck at home, somewhat isolated, and unfortunately, i can’t change that situation at the moment. Sometimes it gets me down, and I end up relapsing into texting and fantasies. It’s unrelated and stupid, but that’s just how it happens. Still, im keeping at it and working to fix this

I'm noticing that my kinks are subsiding. /Gif/ is fucking gross, and the cruel femdom stuff I used to watch is just weird now.

Anyone else notice this?

>>42519185
You're really down on yourself for having come so far. You've gotten so far that a "relapse" is just texting while still retaining.

Sounds like you are doing great.

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>>42519382
Thanks for the support, anon.
Continuing to work on correcting my mindset and breaking that stupid habit.
Wishing everyone the best of luck! I hope everyone gets the results they’re aiming for.

>>42518618
based science chad proving sr empirically so we don't have to

>>42518852
This nigga wants something to listen to on youtube

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>>42518694
What's fucked up about these demon posts is that they actually work. I used to believe this fearmongering nonsense. Of course general addiction made it so I wasn't gonna test it out for myself anyway, but it certainly made it mentally harder to stop when filled with these delusions.
I wouldn't normally quote such demon posts but feel I should share my experience for anyone who even has the slightest uncertainty or fear that it is true; it is not, and this is a post bourne of the lowest vibrations and designed to drag others down too so your lost peace of mind can be harvested in the form of loosh

any advice for doing SR and not becoming neurotic as fuck about it ? especially regarding anything sexual. I've been doing it for like a decade and I think I've repressed my sexuality too much instead of fully transmuting

>>42519730
I personally do not understand this, nothing is repressed for me anymore, it just isn't interesting. try understanding sex for what it is, a dangerous and forceful action only made pleasurable through an artificial desire fulfillment (as its not necessary for survival). desire for it naturally fades leaving nothing behind

Lets peak our spirits up gang,

>>42519376
/Gif/ is the hell of this website.

>>42518694
this simply isn't true. i retained for months and literally went through doubt such as "oh no, maybe my cock doesn't work anymore, maybe my balls are non-functional now" and then guess what I still pumped out massive load of cum and another massive load of cum and another massive load of cum.

>>42519730
view it as life force energy, not inherently 'sexual energy' in the modern concept of sex. What I mean is view it as something more than mere pleasure, mere hedonism. Hopefully that helps you re-frame the energy and better utilize it rather than totally nuking your libido via suppression of 'lust'.

>>42518694
It's not true you won't get boners. I woke up with some rock-hard erections. Yeah, you go through periods where not a lot is happening down there.
I had a girl throwing herself at me and I was so nervous about sex that I blew it. I hadn't even touched my dick in like a month at that point. You may argue sex anxiety is a seperate issue. I never really enjoyed sex, because it always felt more like pressure than fun. Thinking about it, if I hadn't retained, I probably wouldn't have been in that situation anyway. So, you get yourself in some weird situations doing this. I guess it's a learning experience.
Just as an aside, I just spent 7 days in a sunny country where the sun was blazing ALL the time. I live in Northern Europe, so I wasn't used to that. My general health improved so much and my sex-drive sky-rocketed to levels I hadn't felt in probably years. Just something to think about.

>All of a sudden, out of no where
>One day, just don't want to fap anymore
>I'm not less horny, just don't really care about fapping
>Like its not going to satisfy the lustful desires I have so why bother?
>This after probably my entire life of nearly daily fapping with dry edging done a lot too
>Didn't even read these threads or anything when it happened
I never really believe in the stuff in these threads and wasn't reading it at all when this happened. Just thought you guys might no what it means. Its about 2 weeks now I think and I didn't really think this would happen.

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>when male salmon spawn, their bodies start to deteriorate and fall apart, only living long enough to reach the end of their migration.
>salmon reproducing quite literally causes their body to rapidly die and they start becoming zombie-like as a result.
>now as humans, this doesn't happen when we "spawn", partner or not, due to the fact our reproduction is slower and more singular in nature, as well humans being longer lived in general. However this effect is still present in minute ways.
>after ejaculation, men will become weaker, both body and mind, and will become less coordinated because of this. Awful odors will emerge as well (usually from the mouth)
>in a spiritual sense, this is sin and explains why it weakens your connection to the Lord. Although this in particular seems worse in a lot of ways, since it also causes so many other problems, many that run much deeper; it changes your brain chemistry too, but that's another topic for another post.
Don't coom unless it's for reproduction bros, don't be a dying salmon.

>>42519376
>/Gif/ is fucking gross
Possibly one of the most vile parts of this site. I truly wonder what the minds of the regular users of that board are like. That, and /d/ as well.

Day 5.

>>42521294
These threads are necessarily debased and its embarrassing to post in them, and are but a pale reflection of the truth that you just awakened to. but are nonetheless important for discussion of such

Day 0. Longest I've gone was over 2 weeks years ago. Trying to do ~30 days did 10 days last month.

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Sr purifies your astral body.

i'm not expecting anyone to remember but a few months ago I posted about how I turned the urge to jerk off into one to create music and it lead to me finishing music for the first time in years. Now when I get the urge at night I put that track on and admire what I made and how it was born. It doesn't always lead to creating more but it does remind me what great things can come if I redirect the energy and the urges

>>42521347
I believe that the life expectancy difference between men and women is largely caused by ejaculation accelerating aging.

>>42518582
>Also, does anyone have personal experience with going from Dirty to Clean streaks?

Did 6 months clean after 5 years of dirty streaks. Mood more stable and some more motivation on clean. I would say that dirty streaks are like 80-90% as good as clean. When I say dirty streak that means sexual stimulation with no porn spiraling.

>>42518694
Huh? it fixes ED if you persist.

>>42519376
Yes, foot fetishism is pretty gross to me now, like the pervy stuff involving smell and dirt, clean feet are still nice to look at but not in a pervy way, more like an addition to female beauty

>>42521294
It truly is the life hack of life hacks, you make yourself more valuable than the majority of men past puberty by simply not being weak to desire

>>42523453
I think it is copypasta/bait bc it seems familiar

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I'm a week into Brahmacharya (Semen Retention aka Not Ejaculating Sperm) again unintentionally (I just stopped fapping cause it got boring) after a couple months of gooning every other day to Hitomi Tanaka, Ako Kimura, Yu Tano etc. JAVs. Now that I'm in it again I figure I might as well extend my streak until I get the strong metaphysical aura powers again.

My goal with Brahmacharya is to accumulate enough metaphysical high testosterone aura that I manifest pulling Hitomi Tanaka herself in the flesh to be my girlfriend and, eventually, wife. To keep myself motivated, I will continue to watch Hitomi Tanaka JAVs on my streak but I will only watch them purely for the plot and to visually/aesthetically appreciate the huge titted slim body of my future girlfriend and wife Hitomi Tanaka.

My secondary goal with Brahmacharya is to get my streak high enough that I rejuvenate my body and become able to live up to 300 or more years like the great Hindu yogi Trailanga.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z-QefpFCh2E&pp=ygUcU2VlZCByZXRlbnRpb24gY2x1YiBiZW5lZml0cw%3D%3D

My streak was 37 days, I failed 3 months ago and haven't been able to make it past a week since..
If you break a long streak, it might take you half a year or longer to get back to where you were...
Stay strong brothers, it is absolutely not worth it to give in to temptation.

Ever noticed how people are so quick to dismiss shared anecdotes from a decent chunk of people but blindly trust le science based on experiments on mice?

>>42518694
People say this shit, meanwhile hardcore Christians that have never jerked off even once keep getting their wives preggo until they physically dont have any eggs left

>>42523706
Delete that pic from your HDD dude

>>42518582
gonna try it if i find a calendar

>>42523935
Lol why?

OTOH I have so much collected sperms idk what to do with it all

3 weeks in

The past two nights I've experienced sexual dreams and woke up feeling incredible intensity in my head

Did not ejaculate in my sleep though. Still, the experience had left me shook in bed.

Had a long drive today and dead tired. I think tonight is a dangerous night for me. I'm beat and my brain is looking for relief.

I think I've gone through worse nights...

I just have to let the urge pass

>>42518519
this shit is hilarious to observe as an outsider. just a big group of dudes so alone and porn addicted that they liken the act of not demolishing their cock daily with reaching some enlightened state of divinity. idk who told you that obsessing over not masturbating would give you godly mental powers but its just not true at all. have you ever met someone mentally sane and successful that attributed their success to the OUTSTANDING ACCOMPLISHMENT of not hypergooning every minute of every day as if thats something normal people applaud?

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I hereby take an oath to keep obsessing over not masturbating to get godly mental powers for the rest of my life, then attributing my success to the outstanding accomplishment of not hypergooning every minute.

>>42524885
Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson, Bruce Lee all practiced seed retention

>>42518519
>are you exercising
>yes, relevance for pain in chest
jw if you're a slob or actually working out good. IDK man, if try diaphragm breathing and mewing.
>>42521135
>>42519376
all femdom is a psyop

>>42521931
true, helpful pic too

>>42524885
it's not obsessing over not masturbating, that is what it looks like to you. it is something else. it is an obsession with something beyond that. just try this and see for yourself. can you do 40 days and 40 nights of no porn, no masturbation, and no orgasm? try it for yourself. you're invited to explore this and experience it.

By week 3 you may only realize then that you have been living in a depleted state. who knows though, nobody knows for sure until you choose to try this properly and explore it yourself, sincerely. That is the Only Way.

>>42525012
>no porn
I think porn is fine as long as you're watching it for the plot and not fapping and spilling seed to it. It's a legitimate art form after all.

>>42525021
That is a way that you can choose to live, measure yourself over time, see if you are achieving your goals, etc. You'll never know what life could be like when you remove porn, and masturbation and orgasm. And that is your choice to make. Life can be art too, something you live. And a certain art can only be seen and made and lived when porn, masturbation, and orgasm are removed. A law of the universe.

>>42525026
I was saying you can remove masturbation and orgasm while still watching porn as long as you have the self control to not automatically associate seeing a hot naked woman on a screen with touching your junk.

>>42525038
No. Don't lie. At neuro-hormonal level you're still depleting yourself.
That's quite the sneaky, evil foot-in-the-door fallacy you got there m9.

>>42525038
Yeah i do not wish to argue with you as neither of us have the time. I said if that is what you think and what you wish to do then that is your choice.

>>42518694
Literally the opposite. I am personally not going for unlimited pure sr, but doing it as I feel that any orgasms not achieved with a partner who really cares about you are a net loss to my happiness. Been fighting P addiction since I was like 11 or something and my sexual performance fucking skyrockets any time I've had 2+ weeks of sr. Also dick size is better due to stronger erections.

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>>42518519
Does retention make astral projection easier or more likely?

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I'm fighting the temptation to go to the local Asian massage parlor to pay $140 per hour for fuck with a big tits Chinese girl. But at the same time I'm thinking that I could feasibly go while still seed retaining. I'd just have to be really careful with the rhythm and intensity of my thrusts to make sure I don't push myself over the edge and spill seed. According to the Kabbalah, spilling seed is the greatest sin. It's like genocide to millions.
>>42525473
I'd think so. Retaining seed is supposed to increase your metaphysical aura which would enable such higher spiritual powers like astral projection, lucid dreaming or possibly even telekinesis.

>>42525473
imo yes.
feels like you have more of a 'medium' to utilize.

>>42525482
you seem uncommitted. try facing your own unchained energy full on without any temptations anywhere else. stare at it without ceasing. that'd be cool imo, but only do it if you want to. don't do it if you don't want to.

Stop posting pornography in this thread or I will alert the moderators.

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>>42523706
Replying to myself here but after hitting the mitts with my boxing coach yesterday and planning to punch my heavy bag for an hour later today, I can say that the adrenaline rush of punching and boxing training is far greater than the rush I got from gooning to JAV porn, so that should make not spilling my seed to JAV a lot easier.
>>42525482
The Asian massage parlors might be a different story though. That's a far bigger temptation for me to possibly spill seed than watching JAV porn.
>>42525488
I'm committed to not spilling my seed. I'm just maybe a bit creative and unconventional in how I go about it.
>>42526164
Clothed women with cleavage because their tits are naturally big is not pornography. Though I can see why posting hot girls might trigger people trying to keep a safe space to do nofap and seed retention. So I'll refrain from it. Here, have a Canelo punching the heavy bag instead

>>42525482
>spilling seed is genocide
>retaining gives you literal powers
>...
>so let me post a big tit naked woman on the srg general
can you don't

>>42526387
Ok rabbi

>>42524470
Last night I dreamed about amanita muscaria mushrooms. I was walking through the woods and there were those red and white mario mushrooms growing everywhere

>>42524470
Made it through the night ok

Woke up feeling incredibly annoyed and disatisfied for some reason

Anyways I just came back from working out and I'm riding another wave of wanting to watch porn.

The thing is, I'm not even physically horny or erect. Its all coming from my brain. I feel it, its like a tingling sensation going all around my brain. I'm getting flashes of images and scenario inside my head.

Some from videos I've seen, and others from past sexual encounters in my life.

I just gotta let it pass

>>42526549
Try drinking milk. The Hindu yogis would drink milk a lot when they were retaining seed. It's a pure food. Pure food = pure body = pure mind

Heya anons, guess it is time.
So far i did only a few and far between tests with semen retention and i can atleast say my hair got better.

Now the situation is asking for my full iron will and determination, as such! I will also do a retention for atleast some months from now on, perhaps not stop and atleast not until i achive this.

I am gonna ask you guys to wish strength and fortune and will to me, thank you, will update later.

>>42518618
The SR science needs to do the coom science to prove things.
A true scientist of our age, all others are larps and cowards.

>>42524134
You shouldn't be peaking at stuff like that, that is soft core porn

Does cooming causes hair loss?

>>42527367
I thought overdosing testosterone causes hair loss? Doesn't DHT cause male pattern baldness? Anyway I wouldn't be too worried about hair loss cause if you have high enough testosterone to be losing hair you're probably in a pretty good place hormonally as a man in other aspects like muscle growth and deeper voice for instance

Forgive me G-d, I'm a sinner. I wasted my seed once again. I tried to fight it off but i failed. Main trigger was that i was texting with my girlfriend over instagram and i was unable to hold myself from scrolling instagram reels, and no matter what i did the adult content was poping up at my reels page and cornstar behind the scenes poped up and it was enough to make me waste seed. Forgive me. I didn't guard my eyes propertly today. I will avoid using instagram at all cost, now im texting with my girlfriend on whatsapp so i will try my best not to make same mistake twice. Everything comes from eyes my G-d. If i allow myself to watch other girls its over for me.... im going to fail. So NO1 thing i will focus now on is guarding my eyes. Please forgive me my G-d and give me one more chance to prove myself.

>>42527555
Trips means god forgives

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Random passerby here.
Keep up the good work

I am a trans woman, and I have been stealing my bf's seed for 5 months. We fuck every other day, and it usually ends up in my butt. I wait for it to absorb mostly before going for a bath, so I can get vital nutrients. Ever since we started, my life and health has been much much better. I look younger, more motivated, more confident, have more energy, and get more attention from others. His seed is like the fountain of youth for me <3

I fell off the wagon and busted after about a month (as per usual) and my cum was yellowish. What does this mean?

>>42528006
Diet. Nothing to worry about. Stop smoking if you are.

>>42528055
I don't smoke. Is it like old cum or something?

>>42528064
it gets watery or thicker, clearer, whiter or yellower depending on
your diet, hydration and toxin ingestion.
It's not the cum per se, but what you ingest what gives it the texture. It will keep fluctuating for your entire lifetime. Above all, stop busting.

>>42528064
>old cum
By the way, There is no "old cum". Maturation process lasts around 90 days, give/take 40 days, then it gets reabsorbed. "Mature" cum is a better word, Think about that. Do own research.

>>42528055
>>42528077
>>42528088
Holy selfchecked.

>>42527367
>>42527396
yes frequent ejaculation causes hair loss.

>>42528006
it takes a month for sperm to mature. Mature semen is more yellowish.

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>>42528099
>>42528096
Alright cool
Back on the horse I go

I declare this thread a fren thread. Everyone is blessed.

>>42528122
Checked. WAGMI

>>42528122
Neat!

>>42528122
Dubs confirm.
Let all those on this path be successful in this journey.

3rd night in a row i've had a pseudo wet dream with no semen spilled irl, guess that's part of quitting a drug i've been addicted to most my life, need to keep going to expel all the demons i've accumulated through lust addiction. Also had a sleep paralysis episode with this big headed bipedal short stack fat cat creature about 3 ft tall who had an evil laugh as it stood over observing me and I just said "in Jesus I trust" and the episode ended with it disappearing into thin air which was pretty amusing in hindsight

Gym
Nutrition
Cleaning and tidying
Working ob sone things
Sitting staring at a wall
Reading books
Resting
Sleeping

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DAY 40

I want to ejaculate so much bros

>>42527555
>I will avoid using instagram at all cost
Matthew 5:30 does tell you to cut off things that cause you to sin. I bought blocksite for my phone and put a tricky password on it + uninstall prevention which has helped quite a bit, if you don't want to buy a siteblocking app, you should look into setting up nextdns and add all the sites you struggle with (download the app called Applock and put it on Settings after setting up nextdns if you use a phone more than a computer)

>>42528122
Amen, we are in this together, slay the fornication jew dragon

i wish i visited this thread a week ago. i started june off very strong, felt like i had a mindset shift. but i ended up binge drinking all weekend and binge eating and binging porn

so I've abstained from porn and masturbation for a few weeks now and I've noticed no changes. years ago I did a 40 day nofap run and didn't notice anything different then either. what gives?

>>42528473
Are you combining it with goyslop and alcohol retention + a consistent bedtime?

>>42528481
I eat healthy whole foods, don't drink alcohol at all currently and I go to bed consistently at 2-3 am. I do have pretty low T though

>>42528493
Having a purpose out of vanity reason for doing this helps such as abstaining from sexual immorality cause it's self destructive to your soul. If i was doing this for vanity reasons i'd probably fail on the first flatline, while I do get vain benefits such as glowing skin and thicker hair, my main reason will always be to have clear communication with God in prayer and so i don't block the blessings he wants to give me

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I've taken up weight training, making the weights heavy and keeping the protein shakes flowing. I guess it takes the place of fapping in terms of that intense expenditure of energy while lying/sitting in one place, plus it seems to amplify the benefits of SR (more testosterone, better sleep and concentration, better STRENGTH, etc.). Plus when you talk to women you as a man should be like a coiled beast ready to pounce, and SR with weight training helps get you there.

>>42528520
how does cooming or not cooming affect communication with God? genuinely interested

I doubted at first at the anti coffee posters but i'll give cutting off coffee for a few days a try as I get noticeable anxiety spikes from it
>>42528684
The shame that comes with gooning and cooming makes you double minded and feel dirty and unworthy plus with SR being a cure for brainfog and headaches ime, yes God will forgive you thanks to Jesus if you stumble and admit your wrongdoing with a heart set on doing better, but the communication may get clouded for a few hours to a few days

I just realized that I'm addicted to edging and hentai.

>>42528088
old cum is a roastie meme to countersignal their own aging eggs

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>>42526387
Punched my heavy bag for 45 minutes while on 1 week and a half seed retention. My punches felt crisp but could use a lot of improvement in their fluidity. And it was fun, definitely more fun than gooning to big titty JAV porn.

>>42528102
>dude if you make a weird filter things look weird

>>42529695
nice!

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I came across some controversy regarding this topic. One thing bothers me about this concept of semen retention and the effects and how it works.

So long story short semen retention gives some kind of aura and willpower.

If it was the truth then it would be impossible to fail as it would take less and less willpower and energy to succumb. But seemingly people can fail even after a month.

So what is the reason for that? Can it be that failure or success gets decided at the very start ?
Like it is a subconscious thing? Like when smokers just decide they quit and that is all?

What if the non stop failure and restart of the program lasts as long as one finally understands this truth?

What if really you only need a strong base conviction and that is all? Basically who already is good at controlling themselves are those who are already good at that and semen retention gives nothing but just pressure so when someone fails the only thing left is to learn why....

And that is i guess because it is a mind thing like a subconscious thing....like in hypno people will do whatever they think is fine and real because they believe it. And so someone can decide to stop cumming but it will do nothing with that person because he was in control all along....so there will be no extra effects.

But someone who fights all day and night with the real intention to cum will eventually succumb and just waits for the correct moment subconsciously to do it....while someone who decided to quit will not be bothered and will hold out as long as his dick falls off....experiencing no pressure and no reward?

I mean this is probably some level 1 shit of understanding but let's be real.....what do you think?

>>42529974
Self control is key

>>42530001
I mean my argument is that there is no need for self control when something is already decided.

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>>42518519
I've been doing this practice on and off for over a decade now. More so on now, after realizing how much better I feel when retaining.
One interesting detail I noticed is that tolerating cold water, whether from cold showers, the ocean, so on, is infinitely easier when retaining. After I release I bitch out more often but while retaining, I can easily tolerate cold water.
Why is this? Does anyone else experience the same?

Does anyone have the pdf where an anon explains how to transmute sexual energy with imagining colors.

Any help is greatly appreciated

>>42530170
you are just generally lazier when not retaining
which means you find it hard to do things even if you know they are good for you
the extreme end of this is what people often conflate with and misdiagnose as "depression"
lay in bed all day, cant be bothered to even brush teeth, easily succumb to vices like drugs, alcohol and inevitably back into the porn cycle

when retaining you gain the additional energy to do those things you know are good for you, eat healthier, stay away from harmful people and products, and yes have cold showers

>>42528948
I was a born-again Christian and still believe in God and Jesus but I don't get any shame from gooning and cooming. last time that happened was when I was a teenager. maybe my conscience is seared or something.

>>42530744
or rather now that I think about it, after having a born-again experience and later doing some BDSM stuff in a weak moment, I felt like I lost the Holy Spirit and he didn't come back. but I didn't feel guilty from "regular" fapping, I think.

>>42530752
although I might still add that maybe that regular fapping without porn or fetish stuff was also still a sin and that's part of why the Holy Spirit eventually left me

>>42530752
forgot to add that that time I did that BDSM stuff I did feel shame and asked for forgiveness but I guess it wasn't enough

My own vision so far: i never felt guilty when masturbating or weaker, plus i always did lots of things too.
Now currently retaining i can't say much changed(less than a week too for now) but its been easier than i thought to retain.
Really i just didn't do it and i barely felt anything different

Day 11. I realised fasting to the point of my body feeling fatigued has helped me to retain my semen. I haven't had any urges to watch porn or masturbate. I guess I'm just tired of this shit and I want to quit it, but I'm afraid of the urges since I know they might come strong in the future from what I've read. This is also the longest I've gone without masturbating in 7 years so I'm happy with that.

>>42529974
I quit drinking all at once and I just knew I was done with it. That was after years of "trying" and AA and all this other stuff. The one thing I think AA is on to is in the literature they literally say you NEED a spiritual awakening to finally quit for good. You DON'T have the power essentially. I think I spontaneously had that experience when I stopped drinking so to me I haven't needed AA and I've got nearly 4 years now.
I think spiritual experiences are transferable because then finally after a few years sober I try SR for real and I haven't had a single relapse and I'm already over 2 months while I see so many posters losing streaks here after little more than a week.
Basically, SR has to have a spiritual component for success to work. Thats just my feeling on it.

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>>42518519
>Wet Dreams?
>What causes wet dreams?

Your answers to the above are so wrong that they almost redefine what Wrong is. Future dictionaries may quote your passage as the best example of being so Wrong.

Wet dreams are when you cum in your sleep. You may not actually dream but you will wake up with a wet spot on your sheets. They happen for one simple reason, and they will always happens for this one simple reason. Wet dreams happen because you have not had sex nor masturbated in a long time, roughly three to five weeks, or so. That's all they are. Men in prison (who don't masturbate because they have a roommate) or the military can attest to this.

They are a nuisance but are not a problem, save for having to wash the sheets.

If you indulge in nofap and do not have sex, you will have Wet Dreams. You will always have them. They are unavoidable.

>>42529974
One thing that bothers me is SRG is all about retaining seed..
and then "superpowers" include confidence to talk with women, women noticing you, etc.. which leads to seed spending.

>>42530170
Yes on a long streak I found myself enjoying cold plunges in the ocean but couldn't bring myself to even go to the beach when I'd fallen.

>>42531071
That's the duality of the process on display. As you retain, the universe conspires against you to get you to spill your seed but doesn't use negative pressure it also tries to bribe you.

>>42518519
Retard here, i'm 2 weeks without fapping but i watched some porn last night and edged a little bit but then prayed and stopped after 30 mins and i cried in front of my icons. Do i reset my streak or just keep going?

>>42531049
9 weeks in and never had a wet dream in my entire life, Mr. Knowitall

>>42518519
Look guy I haven't jerked off in 6 months ok. I'm a god damn powder keg ready to burst. I literally, 17 minutes ago told the chunky 3/10 working at the library that I want to get her in a shower and soap up and play with her fat tits. I haven't achieved nirvana, or reached enlightenment, I've just lowered my standards to the point that after I bust my nut I'm gonna feel bad.

Key is to actively use the energy and not just sit idle and wait for magic to happen.

>42529974
the shills ares getting verbose

>>42531049
shalom

>>42528493
>I do have pretty low T though
Everyone is different , everyone has their own energy level. Ejaculation is LOSS of energy by any account. That's why those young virile dudes saying they can goon all the time with no problemo, they will pay a price. It's math really.

i'm such a fucking incel holy shit

>>42531473
Volcel if you live near an Asian massage parlor

>>42531547
Involuntary sexual if you get picked up for solicitation and sent to the slammer

>>42531262
I've been on this journey a while and I don't think ejaculation is inherently bad now. It's natural and it happens in your sleep even if you don't have a wet dream. But now I do think lust is bad. Lust combined with ejaculation is worse. Lust is what makes that void in your soul bigger, and ejaculation holds that void into place

Participating in these threads is like putting a target on your back while feeling assured because you're not the only one.

>>42531547
I got rejected by 2 Asians in May

>>42531578
Dunno anon, i am very lustfull and that helped me writting and training.
Not just pursuing woman, but appreciating a woman too.

Don't think lust is that bad

>>42531605
Would you still write and train if it meant never getting laid again? Be honest. If so that means your actions were never sincere anyway, but rather controlled by an external force. That's what brings you to the loop of samsara. Because that desire (lust) will always be with you forever - it's up to you to break the loop

>>42531605
>>42531701
Lust can mean different things to different people. In the west it has primarily become a sexual perversion, but there is a history of ideas like "lust for money."
Then in the east, they say it is desire, but the word desire doesn't actually capture what they mean, and the word lust doesn't carry the meaning either. People end up circling around each other in conversations making translations when they think they're making points.

That said, lust in a general sense can be tied to hate, as it seeks to subvert things we hate (often in ourselves). Through hate it can be tied to fear, as hate seeks to subvert the things we fear. The negative of a negative feels like a positive, but lust is still acting on the basis that love cannot.

>>42531701
I don't get laid that often besides when i just want to relax a bit, so i dont mind it.
But i would never lose free choice over some kind of test or question like this, i could.
but my answer is neither.
i refuse to submit.

>>42531739
Lust is very close vibrationally to fear according to Joe Dispenza. And I agree. It stems from the unconscious fear of death

>>42531753
Is it? Well i will end up being the contrarian in this.
Though fear of death i cant say if i have or not, i belive it is something i will only know in the moment itself.

>>42531753
Even the fear of death is just another fear of the unknown. You can convince yourself you know (samsara, heaven, etc) or you can find contentment without knowing. I'm not here to preach a side, but I will share that I chose the second path, which is the path less traveled. I do not regret it.

>>42531747
Are you really being free? If you knew the spiritual price you were paying for indulging in lust would you still do it? The problem is, that most people just want to feel good without knowing what they're paying for it with. Nothing in this universe is free. You pay for everything.

>>42531774
>which is the path less traveled
The path less traveled is the one that breaks you out of the loop (people refer to this as the matrix). Most people will return to the matrix

>>42531778
Love is free or not at all, but it's not the sort of thing that always feels good.

>>42531778
Its not about excess, i am not against discipline and good health with good habits.
I hate being imposed upon.
"If you do that is bad"
Why? I wont follow what you say.
But i wont just indulge either, i can see what is bad and does to one too, being clear cut of how much to indulge and HOW to do it isnt my problem.

>>42531783
Agape is free and that's the purest form of love. But romantic love (eros) - No you pay for those good feelings with the pain you'll feel later.

>>42531786
I don't care what you do, that's your business. I'm just here to spread the knowledge I've gained on this journey, and it's up to you to decide what to do with that information. Only human after all

>>42531774
And that path would be? Elaborate please, i am curious.

hi guys!!!
hope u retain ur seed!!!

day 1 for me!!

>>42531782
Perhaps, but to be certain about it is to discredit your ability to know about it in the eyes of others. There is a deep hypocrisy that unsettles the uncertain, as the few who set an example to match their words necessarily do so without dismissing the potential of others.

>>42531788
Very true. I was imprecise, and I'm not sure I want to elaborate on romantic love even if I have more to share. It seems like a fool's errand.

>>42531796
To name it explicitly would be a disservice, as the path I mentioned is the path of blind uncertainty, where faith supports ignorance instead of knowledge.

>>42531817
Ah i see, well cant say its exacly what i do.
I am going through the uncertain and unexplored, but i want to understand it and then go foward.
One of the things that most inspired me to follow such way is a portuguese poem called "cântico negro"
Would recommend

>>42531794
Then theres nothing to be said.
If what you preach is truthfull i will reach it sooner or later.

Death feels special because the known has accumulated around it more intensely than around most unknowns. But that intensity belongs to us, not to death as an object of knowledge. To treat death as uniquely meaningful is already to have smuggled knowledge into uncertainty. Faith, rightly held, does not resolve the unknown; it releases the demand that the unknown justify itself to the known.

>>42531817
>Very true. I was imprecise, and I'm not sure I want to elaborate on romantic love even if I have more to share. It seems like a fool's errand.
Yup, chasing love is a fool's errand. It's energetically no different than PMO. Instead of being a slave to pornography, now you become an actual simp, trading your time, energy, money, and sovereignty for someone else's approval, simply because pornography all it did was amplify the reality that you are lonely and have no gf, and now you want one. Having a gf doesn't change that inner void in you, it only amplifies it. That's why going on SR to get women is a pointless endeavor. You should prob be single and focus on your God given mission

>>42531889
>If what you preach is truthfull i will reach it sooner or later.
Many people don't, because they're too busy distracted with modern, cheap dopamine hits (all by design). But if what I said doesn't resonate it's because you're not ready yet, simple as

>>42531888
The journey is yours, and while I see my own history in your words, I'm sure the results you find will not be mine. I used to reach for knowing, a desire I could never satisfy. Then I reached for the end of that desire.

>>42531908
That still sounds more like lust dynamics than love dynamics to me, and the chasing is the giveaway. Love builds space for others freely. Lust seeks comfort within the space, as it centers on personal fears/insecurities. Love on the other hand is centered on the well being of others, often at personal cost. We confuse them in feeling, but we can distinguish them in motivation.

>>42532000
Love may cost you something, but it does not make you a slave; slavery begins when the other person becomes your cure.

Day 1 completed, i failed couple times today to guard my eyes but i also succeed many times. Tomorrow is a new day. A new fight.

>>42532063
Based. 1 day or DAY 1

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>>42532063
Today anon was less gay

>>42531931
Well i will see about that, overall it is nice to see another wanderer.
All good fortune to you

>>42531817
>To name it explicitly would be a disservice, as the path I mentioned is the path of blind uncertainty, where faith supports ignorance instead of knowledge.
A true knower knows that he does not know. Based true path follower.

are you suppose to ease into semen retention? my balls feel so fucking full. i havnt looked at porn or anything today

I thought OCD was mainly a flaw but it's helped quite a bit on my current almost a month streak (my best so far), when I looked at lewd pictures for too long on previous attempts, semen would spill out hands free and i'd count those attempts as dirty streaks until I finally succumbed and lost completely cause i was playing with fire looking at naughty pix. Learnt from previous errors and am being way more strict in what I entertain my eyes with + the thought of having to start from zero after my ED is starting to cure and gaining way more free time and energy is daunting

>>42532408
>my balls feel so fucking full
Happens to me sometimes, it's cause your body is so used to releasing that it's trying to prompt you into going into that comfort place which will give you no true fulfilment, resist, do something else.

If it's your first attempt, don't fret too much if you mess up, it's a practice that should be practiced until you find what works best, for me i am starting to go no nonsense (no naughty imagery at all) and this is cause Jesus gave his life for me in a gruesome manner, the least I could do in return is give up fornication and chase purity

>>42528122
Checked.
LET THE FRENNERY COMMENCE!

The 3 main enemies of SR:

The world - Wants you to be a slave to sexual desires, says masturbation is healthy, has a myriad of free websites to keep you being an emasculated goyslave

The flesh - Loves to self sabotage you by sweet talking you into giving in to what it wants

satan - Loves to tempt you to fall and accuses you of not being good enough for God after he achieves his initial goal

>>42531015
That is basically what i said. Once you unlocked the understanding that it is in your head and you gathered enough conviction to just do it....you had it strong enough....you had no pressure from yourself since it was not a fake decision....aka it is all in your head/subconscious

And you already had experience so it was clear to you how it works

>>42531071
As i said in my base post with the skeleton it is all in your head...the universe probably does not care and it is you sabotaging yourself

>>42531739
Ive always associated lust as a "hunger for something that isn't food". Kinda ties in with greed and avarice. I know when I lusted in the past I could taste it in my mouth.

>>42532774
The three frens of SR:

Jesus - was celibate himself and helped bring all sorts of sinners and fornicators (mary magdalene, etc) to purity

the spirit - faith in your intelligence and willpower to overcome the flesh

the world beyond - there are those out there who will help you separate the false from the real and fall into the place of peace and calmness without any loss

>>42532962
Hunger is not always gluttony, and unless it is I would not associate it with lust. The 7 deadly sins are all related under pride, which is fundamentally ones personal power over fear, made manifest. The hunger/lust/desire comes from attachments according to the Buddhists, but those attachments are coping mechanisms. It's fear all the way down until you choose love.

I want to punch myself

>>42533226
No dont beat yourself ;^D

Day 1 no coffee, my nervous system feels way more calm and composed without the spike and overexcitement, i think i mainly drank it for the comfort of a warm coffee everyday more than effects in retrospect

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Can Semen Retention cure depression?

>>42533643
It increases dopamine, you need to cure depression first in order to achieve, not the other way around. If you just increase dopamine when depressed you get anxiety. The standard depression cure is to Lower dopamine by taking SSRIs.

>>42530170
when retaining you are less stressed, you have a bigger margin to play with. when releasing you are stagnated and potentially degenerating. cold is always a stressor, so it triggers the bitch in the desperate releaser. too much cold shower can therefore make you lose the streak

>>42533643
I want to ejaculate my semen into frieren and i want her to retain my semen in her womb

>>42531183
what did she say?

1 month alcohol free 1 day goon free as of right now exactly 24 hours,gooned a lot past month as i was feeling like shit from lack of booze but now there are no excuses

>>42532019
>>42531908
How can such massive levels of enlightenment still mix "love" with "lust".

>>42533643
>SR increases dopamine
eeehhhh...no.
>The standard depression cure is to lower dopamine by taking SSRIs.
omg what the fuck are you on about ffs...

>>42533858
>1 month alcohol free 1 day goon free
As a former very heavy drinker and almost former gooner, truly congratulations anon.
No matter how many times you stumble just get up and keep going forward, it is possible.

>>42534042
Dopamine and serotonin are polar opposites, this is pretty basic. If one goes up the other goes down

>>42533710
i-i-is that how semen retention really w-works?
asking for a friend

>>42534062
Thanks man,it means a lot!Sometimes just a positive comment can change someone's life
WAGMI!!!

>>42533858
Based. I'm 1 month and 9 days sober from weed and 1 and a half weeks retaining seed. And I'm training boxing too. It makes me so freaking sore lol

>>42534614
I was knee-deep in all sort of retard addictions, today I'm clean.
We don't know each other but we share a common struggle.
You got this and you won, will win, and keep winning.
God will eternally be on your side and cheering for you, doesn't matter if you believe it or not.
And I will be cheering for you too, from the other side of the screen.
And that other anon will be too.
Eternal blessings.

>>42534042
He's jewish

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Has anyone here heard of the coomanon or Dr. Cumnassus? Wrote this whole goddamn book in the ezpz discord forum, some Anon who also has a thread he's been posting on since 2021. I'm so deep down the rabbit hole, he's had several alts that all have been deleted. Still didn't quit, last relapse was two weeks ago or something. Can't post any links so just look up the ezpz discord I guess

I have withdrawal symptoms, how to deal with it ?

Guys please look at this thread
>>42531343

I'm the one saying that the levitating video is fake and I gave timestamps and discrepancies but people are disagreeing and saying it's real. Do you guys see it too? The poor editing moments? Can you catch that too or am I just seeing it wrong?! Doesn't matter if you believe levitation is possible or not, just observe the video and those timestamps where you can see it's edited.

Anyways, you guys will conquer your battles so long as you believe in yourself, there's nothing like the power of human will. And this? This is nothing but a lowly addiction, just a bad habit that's had a grip on you for too long. Be strong or the world moves on.

God bless

>>42534836
3 weeks off weed and I've somehow become even lazier. Do you still crave it?

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>>42535134
I want to add a cheerful video to my comment also. Imagine any nice song over it

God bless to anyone reading!!

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>>42535136
No. No cravings at all. Since my health insurance coverage runs out near the end of this century my mom helped me make a goal to extend my sobriety streak to when my health insurance coverage runs out. So basically when I'm 100+ years old and have upper 90's to 100 year sobriety streak, then I'll possibly consider smoking a little weed or eating an edible as a reward for my streak. But I also, very likely, might not and just extend my streak further. I plan to live to be 300+ years old like the great Hindu yogi Trailanga >>42523706 with the help of semen retention (which he practiced) anyway so it's not a big deal at all. I figure living to be 300+ years old and seeing all the changes in the far future to human society will be much more interesting than smoking weed.

>>42535385
Man, you have the best humor I have ever experienced. It takes intelligence. You made my day.

God bless

>>42531908
Romantic love and lust fall under the same category - eros, the sense of longing for wholeness. You can't say that modern romance isn't built on that foundation. True love is agape - the love Jesus had for everyone.

>>42532000
Ideally yes, but that's because you view love in the lens of a man - remember that men's love is idealistic and women's love is opportunistic. This is how our souls are hardwired. If you are chasing a relationship, gf or not, you're already fucked

>>42533776
She said "aren't you the guy that pees in the sink in the women's bathroom?"

>>42535820
Spousal privilege is your only way out.

>>42534033
Our models for love and our willingness to dispute love in introspection are the primary barriers. That is, if the model is too simple or the experience of love evades discernment, no amount of general awareness will compensate for that specific lapse in awareness.

>>42535804
>that men's love is idealistic and women's love is opportunistic
Generally speaking yes, but conflating the flesh and the spirit is as much an issue as the analogy of gender/sex is helpful. I personally see love more like most women do. I'm the sort of guy who just waits for women to hit on him and tests opportunities. Sex is of little concern to me. I more so mean opportunities like making new connections and growing spiritually. I've had 5 relationships, each over 2 years long, but I waited until I was 27 to lose my virginity. I thought I'd found the right person, but our opportunities didn't align in the end because we weren't willing to make the same sorts of sacrifices.

>>42534145
stfu bot, you've no idea what you are talking about.

>>42536410
trust the basedence, goy

>>42535804
>men's love is idealistic and women's love is opportunistic
You just can't define the quality of a person through their gender, it just doesn't work like that.
>This is how our souls are hardwired.
Yours maybe.
>If you are chasing a relationship,
I've chased plenty of relationships and had several relationships, some were good, some were bad, some were worse, each one though was a leaning experience that helped me learn more about myself, life, and this world.
> gf or not you're already fucked
You, maybe.

>>42536227
>no amount of general awareness will compensate for that specific lapse in awareness.
IMO
There are only experiences to be had, any text book knowledge amounts to nothing if you don't sift it through the wisdom of your own experience-ing.
You are right though that love and lust are different things, the other anon seems to be conflating love with extreme desiring, understanding lust as a intense craving, like that of pleasure with and of our own bodies, but you can perfectly lust after things other than sex, blood, adventure, riches.

>>42536471
Good afternoon rabbi

>>42536494
That's a big part of it, but I also mean to say that we have different sorts of experiences from each other. Generally speaking the first model of love we build comes from our mothers, and the second comes from our fathers. Holes in our early models of love propagate into later suffering around it. To overcome that not just any experience will do.

They are trying to overcome lust, but the system for doing so can easily become another form of lust.

Lust for purity.
Lust for power.
Lust for vitality.
Lust for enlightenment.
Lust for control over dreams.
Lust for invulnerability to women, demons, shame, or death.

>>42536629
If retention is pursued because one fears loss, contamination, weakness, women, death, humiliation, or lack of mission, then retention itself remains fear-organized. The object has changed, but the spirit has not.

I am become the embodiment of Lust for Sobriety and Equanimity.

>>42536643
Then you are become the beginning of the end.

>>42536629
According to Advaita desire for enlightenment or God-realization is not counted among other desires to be discarded or overcome.

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my issue with this is that my fetishes are the perfect storm, my fetish is momcest and if you go to the generals on /r9k/ I fit the stereotype perfectly: sheltered kid, overprotective mother, emotionally absent father, bullied, afraid of girls to the point where thinking that they could be attracted to me is so unrealistic that I don't even fantasize about it, obsessed with women with extremely large breasts...

I choose to walk the Semen Retention path because it's the right thing to do but whenever I look back on my gooner days my fetish is way too specific, it's almost as if it was made for me to be spiritually bound to it's wickedness

>>42536742
how the fuck is this paranormal or conspiracy related

>>42536721
Some desires are required for life, like breathing.
Some desires are required at a stage in life, like the desire for enlightenment.
Most desires are never required.

We mist distinguish and handle each kind appropriately, otherwise even breathing can be tied to maya, let alone the lust for enlightenment.

>>42536767
Ya hafta lernta seethru daveil

>>42536742
>I chose to be a cuck than to let the world cuck me
skill issue ngl

Jewish raiders here atm remember don't feed them

does wet dreams with ejaculation ends your retention?

>>42536439
>You just can't define the quality of a person through their gender, it just doesn't work like that.
You can because we live under a hidden cosmic, energetic set of rules. In general the masculine is ruled under electricity. The feminine is ruled under magnetism. That's why she can't love you the way you love her. You love from this essence of electricity - she operates from this essence of magnetism. Both are polar opposites - in order for anything to exist in this world.- one must give and the other receives. A perfect love would be nothing at all

>You, maybe.
I wish it wasn't this way my bro, but people don't think the universe be like it is, but it do.

>>42536366
>I thought I'd found the right person
The right person is you my guy. But yeah you're doing it right. When you chase women for romantic opportunities and blind to cosmic law - aka operating from unconsciousness and not realizing the transaction that you're making with the universe, that's when you open yourself up to energy vampires. The type of woman you'll inevitably meet is the one that will latch on to the energy you're giving out. If you're giving out desperation you're gonna be attracting a shark that can smell it. Before you know it you're doing all you can to keep the relationship alive while she feeds off your pain and suffering to keep her happy, because she really has an ego trip on a man suffering FOR her. Remember gents, inner peace >>>>> everything

Weirdest night of sleep i've had in my life on day 30, had like 4 orgasms in strange dreams but no cum spillt after snapping back to reality, even dreamt I was a lesbian woman scissoring another girl at one stage wtf, satan's really ramping up the spiritual warfare it seems
>>42537229
I wouldn't count it as it's literally mind rape against your will while you're in a vulnerable state but if you do get a legit wet dream, just observe if it diminishes the benefits of SR or not

>>42537891
Taoists say men can have multiple body orgasms through semen retention. Maybe you had that?

>>42537316
Knowing wasn't enough for me. I had to live it and face the dark night to understand deeper validation dynamics. Doing the right things the wrong way is just a slower fall.

>>42536635
The guy is jesting and observes you observing him.
The fear of becoming worse than you are is not unjustified.
Growing old does not upset me
You don’t fear death?
Hedonism dopamine loop?

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>>42518519
Hate to say it but feeling unattractive is helping me retain. Used to have a higher sex drive because I felt attractive but no longer do, so I don't get hard as much and therefore I retain longer.

does masturbating count as sacrificing sexual energy or fluids to some evil "gods"?

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>>42539649

I am about to make it to 30 days bros yayayyayayayay

>>42534042
That anon is right. You'revway too confident about being wrong. Prolactin suppresses dopamine, so its absence is a boon.

>>42539910
It is said that pornography is the devil's iconography.

>>42539579
>The fear of becoming worse than you are is not unjustified
Making space for thought without fear is also not unjustified. I am not saying fear is always bad or anything so simple. Instead I'm pointing to its common failures and how they are overcome.
>Growing old does not upset me
I also quite enjoy it. Every new lingering pain is a reminder of life making me more present and thankful.
>You don’t fear death?
I faced death a few times. Close calls and medical issues made it impossible to avoid, but I wanted to face it anyway, which is a something of a conflict for life. Upon realizing this in intimate terms I faced medical truths more fearful than death, because they strip the things we cherish most in life and want to attribute to the spirit. Eventually though, like with all things, I had to turn away from it. Life is happy to destroy itself when left to its own devices, facing only itself. I cherish death now, as a profound and beautiful relationship entangled throughout life.
>Hedonism dopamine loop?
This I still am tempted to say I fear. Losing yourself in the spirit is far more grave a matter than losing yourself in the flesh.

>>42518519
>just turned 24
>haven't had morning wood in like a year
>all my work/school is on my pc where i also fap
>blockers dont stop me i just go on autopilot and before i know it
>its too late
So daunting to know that even if I retain for 30+ days I really need to retain for 90+ to actually heal. Any success stories for long term/damaged users? Just seems so far away, lifelong problem :/

>>42542992
You heal after about 30-60 days. But the urges never stop. Like a heroin addict all it takes is a trigger so the only way to truly stop is to change your life where you're no longer triggered.

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What helped you the most in your SR journey?

>>42543035
Quitting fantasizing.

There goes my 13 days
Lets keep trying

>>42543035
Sleeping a lot, going to bed early, keeping my mind empty

I've PMO'd maybe 30 days total in the past 3 years

>>42543035
>>42543191
Yes this. After a two week streak I can literally think about a hot girl and get an erection. Its both a blessing and a curse

I get super depressed while on SR. How do I solve it.
>Hardmode without kms

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on day 30 today, got a lot of rest and decided to read books. feelsgoodman

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Alright niggas so basically the last server crumbled from admin resignment but is starting up again. Even broader topic areas with intersectional discussion of magic, alchemy, manifestation, and health with NO DICK MEASURING CONTESTS! Real spiritual niggas and grinders ONLY, which would be a lot of you

invite: discord gg/ gXC4pMv5be

>>42544125
get a move on and try trauma-release exercises. Ejaculation spikes glutamate and your feeling depressed might just be a GABAergic flow that's needed to recover from all the bullshit you did. Often purpose-based too, if you have a real purpose you will never flatline. Reading and meditating is a good way to figure that out.

>>42544068
good shit man

>>42543680
unfortunate for back tehn but don't dwell and you'll be at day 14+ in no time. Time accelerates on SR if you do it with trve joy and optimism

>>42545087
>manifestation,
I am very interested in manifestation but I have a lot of work to do yet. For example I am having problems with SATS.

>>42545097
>having problems with SATS
to be a rabbi why do you think that is? I got a lot of resources for if it's a relaxation or visualization problem, lunar meditation can help a lot to activate the visual mind, and 4hz binaural beats are great for slowing down to subconscious awareness. Lmk if you tried those and I'd also be glad to discuss more over the 'cord

>>42545113
Thanks. I hope you are welcoming people in the 'cord because I am interested as of now.

Now, my problem with SATS is that in the past months, when I went to sleep, I usually reached the hypnagogic state naturally. I could detect it easily and even imagine things that way. But as of now my mind kind of does not get relaxed enough for it. I am always thinking of something else and I am forgetting how to detect the state and also having enough strength to do things in it.

>>42545144
oh yeah I'm welcoming on the Discord, I'm Pingu in the server. Send a message in the chat whenever you're there and I'll guide you around!
Sounds like it is a parasympathetic activation problem from what I'm hearing. Upping GABA by meditation with frequencies and binaurals will help you a lot I'm sure, I had similar problems as a teenager until I discovered those.

>>42545159
Glad. Now I will be making an account there. You will know.

I literally can't understand people that defend watching porn but not fapping. It's better to stop watching and keep fapping than the other way around

>>42545241
They probably come from the belief that there is nothing wrong with it if you don't ejaculate. Which is kinda illogical all things considered.

PART 1
Things I've noticed on SR
Words: I've been using more complex words and words I'd normally not use. It's not like I've never used these words before or don't understand what they mean, it's more like my brain now has the ability to use them naturally instead of defaulting to "cheaper", less computationally expensive words.
Dreams: My dreams are now extremely vivid. I have aphantasia, which is the inability to voluntarily create visual mental images in your mind's eye. My dreams have always been muted, almost black and white, with weird perspectives, but right now they're colourful, detailed and much more vivid than they've ever been.
Confidence: My confidence has increased. I walk with more bravado, people seem to notice me more, and people actually seem to listen when I speak. I'm also being interrupted way less than I used to be.
Voice: My voice seems slightly deeper, although that could just come with the confidence.
Drive: I can now sit still and watch a one-hour video, read a book, etc. without constantly feeling the need to find something else to watch or do. As someone who's always had attention issues (friends have joked that I have undiagnosed ADHD), I've noticed my attention span becoming noticeably better.
Social Life: This might just be coincidence, or maybe it's something more, I'm not really sure. I've been invited out more recently. One girl kept inviting me to hang out (I never took her up on it), and friends I've known online through mutual friends for years are now asking to meet up in real life because "we've known each other for so long, it's crazy we've never had a drink together."
Memory: My memory recall, both short-term and long-term, has improved drastically.

>>42545647
PART 2
Sexual Urges: They're still there, but they're 100x easier to control. I also feel a slight sense of disgust when I see thots online or people acting like whores.

Pornography feels unnatural to me. Seeing another human naked is a primal experience that exists deep within your subconscious mind. That subconscious process is what drives you to go out and find a partner, improve yourself, and become a better person. When you're constantly activating that part of your brain through pornography, it dulls it. It becomes satisfied and content without you actually doing anything, so there's less reason for that primal drive to rise from your subconscious into your conscious mind.

(Just my own thoughts and opinions.)

This isn't my first attempt at SR, but this time I did something differently, something a little unorthodox that I've not really seen anyone else mention.

I took 150ug of LSD twice, three weeks apart. The first time, SR wasn't even remotely on my mind. I watched porn and smoked weed during the trip. The second time was different. I still wasn't going into it with the intention of doing SR, and SR wasn't really on my mind, but afterwards I felt different. I no longer wanted to smoke weed, and I had no urge to watch porn.

That eventually led me back to /x/ and SR.

I've read that LSD can "rewire" your brain. Looking back, it's almost like it brought out the version of me that wanted to stop smoking, stop drinking and do SR, without me consciously being aware of it.

I've read stories about people having complete 180s after LSD. Their views change, they improve their lives, they sort their shit out. Likewise, I've read plenty of stories from people doing SR who say they became almost unrecognisable to friends and family, with people asking them what drugs they're on when they're actually just doing SR.

>>42545652
I think there are neural connections and bridges that separate after orgasm. Like the ability to see in low light, it takes time and a buildup of jizz/ojas/vril to regenerate these connections. And its those connections that provide that slight boost to cognition which is where the drive/ambition/patience comes from. LSD and Psilocybin probably bridge these connections temporarily.

>>42518519
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oby08eHpIOw

I fucked up yesterday and threw away a 16 day streak. I got too horny and started massaging my prostate and then busted everywhere. Oh well, day 0. Things were starting to get really good also like more energy and stuff

>>42546403
>I got too horny and started massaging my prostate and then busted everywhere.
Bro went 16 days and started fingering his own asshole. thats the funniest shit i've read in a while.

>>42546412
It feels better than jerking off. I wish i never discovered it tbqh

>>42546420
Honestly you might just be gay.

>>42546403
>>42546420
what does the shame feel like after?? i bet its 10x worse than just jerking it

Went to sleep after watching porn and getting really hard without actually doing anything and had crazy interesting dreams last night (nothing erotic). I never considered this until now but can raising sexual energy without release help with dream recall and lucid dreaming?

>>42546464
Yep, my dreams become extremely vivid during SR

What religions practice semen retention?

>>42546723
>What religions practice semen retention?
Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, Taoism, Christianity, Islam
most major religions have at least some tradition, denomination, sect, monastic tradition, or ascetic movement that practices sexual abstinence, and therefore semen retention.

>>42530170
Your body heat is naturally higher when retaining for longer periods. I've also noticed that my eyes will naturally change. I have been astigmatic for over 10 years but when I retain I don't feel the need to wear glasses.

>>42519577
Top kek

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>>42546779
Bro, I have the exact same issue. I have astigmatism, and of course, from time to time i put on my glasses when my eyes get tired and things start to blur. But with SR, ive noticed that i dont need to rest my eyes nearly as often while wearing them. Actually, ive only put them on like three times this past month. Interesting...

>>42546420
>>42546412
>>42546403
Please don’t do this anons

>>42541134
>That anon is right
No he isn't, and you are not either.
>You'revway too confident about being wrong
Because I have actually walked this path for the last five years or so, and unlike you and you because imo you are samefagging imo, I know what I'm talking about.
All SR does is bringing your dopamine down to normal levels, over time, it does not increase it.
kek you rabbis aren't even trying.
>Prolactin suppresses dopamine yadda yadda
So? How does that stop a coombrain from doing PMO again to get another dopamine shot? Are you even aware in what kind of thread you are opinionating on?
>so its absence (caused by taking brain chemistry altering drugs) is a boon

Do you even care what kind of SSRIs side effects there are? We all know the answer to that.

>>42525473
yes, it gives you more mental energy.

>>42541134
Thanks for backing me up, but prolactin doesn't suppress dopamine, it's the other way around, dopamine suppresses prolactin. What suppresses dopamine is serotonin. Serotonin signals to the body it has enough resources, so it downregulates dopamine(seeking and prediction) signalling.

>>42547356
You are mental dude, nobody wants to be like you lol, you should keep yourself within a realm you understand and only talk about things you have studied. Dopamine isn't the pleasure molecule, retard

>>42547641
Samefagging jew

I JUST CAME A LITER GUYS AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>42547641
Please explain, in detail, how electrical signals in the brain and made up chemicals affect first person consciousness. Explain how your personal experience is the result of the activity of neurons. Explain how matter interacts with consciousness, in detail.

>>42547685
What are you even talking about

>>42547726
Oh ok you're an NPC with no first person consciousness. Nevermind then. I experience feelings and senses, not neurochemicals. Neurochemistry is junk, like the rest of the so called modern sciences.

>>42547641
>You are mental dude,
No samefag, I am not, what is mental for real is to recommend a person asking if SR helps with depression, to take SSRIs
Story at a Glance:
SSRI antidepressants are among the most harmful medications on the market, impacting society due to their widespread (and frequently unjustifiable) use.
Common side effects of SSRIs (and SNRIs) include sexual dysfunction (which is often permanent), emotional numbness, severe agitation, violent psychosis, cognitive decline, and birth defects.
The most concerning SSRI side effect is their tendency to cause grisly suicides and homicidal violence which includes mass shootings.
Psychiatry's denial of SSRI-related issues often leads to misinterpretation of side effects as signs of pre-existing mental illness, resulting in more medication and potentially catastrophic consequences.
SSRIs, like other stimulant drugs (e.g., cocaine), can create aggressive behaviors and are highly addictive so many SSRI enter severe withdrawals once they stop them. Unfortunately, few resources exist for these situations.
https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/the-dark-side-of-antidepressants

>nobody wants to be like you lol
Oh don't worry, I'm not preaching bullshit on this place like you, anons that actual practice SR know what I'm talking about, and since I definitely don't want to be like you, what is your point again?

>>42547641
>dopamine isn't the pleasure molecule
oh ffs....you really have no idea what this general is about.
>>42547778
When Dr Mark Horowitz, an Australian psychiatrist and researcher based in London, tried to slowly come off the medication he had been taking since his twenties, he suffered insomnia, panic attacks and emotional distress. Zoe Beaty examines his claims of how it can be done differently and if the medical community needs to reassess

https://www.independent.co.uk/health-and-fitness/ssri-antidepressants-withdrawal-depression-b2817835.html

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/study-warns-long-term-antidepressant-use-poses-major-health-risks/ar-AA24Oq2F

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/antidepressant-depression-sertraline-study-anxiety-mental-health-a9112781.html

>>42547778
They don't "cause" mass shootings and suicide. There's a reason why people are asked about suicidal ideation or violent thoughts before being prescribed these drugs - they tend to relieve the avolition associated with depression first, which means someone might now have the energy to act on their suicidal thoughts that they were previously too tired and demotivated to undertake. SSRIs or no, the most dangerous time during depression treatment is ALWAYS when they're starting to come out of it. SSRIs aren't the cure for depression or a permanent solution anymore than antibiotics are a permanent solution for food poisoning, but they are part of the treatment plan in some cases for a time.

Let's clear this for unsuspecting lurkers and newfags

Dopamine is a neurotransmitter made in your brain. It plays a role as a “reward center” and in many body functions, including memory, movement, motivation, mood, attention and more. High or low dopamine levels are associated with diseases including Parkinson’s disease, restless legs syndrome and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/22581-dopamine

Dopamine: The Motivation Drug We're All Hooked on
Our brains addict us to what feels rewarding via our dopamine drive.
https://archive.ph/bNlgS

>>42546403
It fucks up your energy. It's actually worse for you than jerking off. Quite a shame that it's become so normalized now. I think future generations of men are cooked

>>42547895
And how it is pertinent to achieving any amount of abstinence/SR:

Dopamine and addiction are inseparable, but probably not in the way you think. Dopamine isn’t just a pleasure chemical that drugs hijack. It’s your brain’s prediction and motivation engine, and addiction systematically dismantles it, rewiring the entire reward system until the pursuit of a substance or behavior overrides nearly every other biological priority. Understanding this mechanism explains why willpower alone rarely works, and what actually does.

https://neurolaunch.com/dopamine-and-addiction/

Biological interactions happen when people view porn, causing men to experience erections and women to experience dilated genitals and lubrication from the vaginal walls (NHS, 2016; NHS, 2016). However, psychological changes also occur. fMRIs revealed that when men watch porn, elevated activity in the ventral striatum can be observed where the brains reward-system releases dopamine, the neurotransmitter responsible for pleasure (Hess, 2017; Simpson, 2017). The amygdala (the brain portion responsible emotional behaviour and motivation), also activates when viewing porn (Gola et al., 2015), both of which activates the brains reward-pathway which influences conditioning towards desiring a certain stimulus again - a process which can lead to pornography addictions (Hess, 2017). Furthermore, those who view greater amounts of porn also have lesser volumes of grey matter (The Guardian, 2014). Whilst this finding does not suggest causation, it is important to note that the average age of males who start viewing pornography for the first time is 10 years old – an age where critical brain-development is still in the process (Hess, 2017). Therefore structural brain differences/damage could reflect consequences of pornographic use.
https://www.theroompsy.com/psychology-sex-identities-society/The%20Problem%20With%20Porn:%20Heteronormativity%20&%20Gender-roles

https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/

>>42547778
I didn't recommend SSRIs, I said it is the standard treatment for depression and explained basic neurotransmitter function. The rest is you being triggered and putting too much effort into fighting a strawman. Semen Retention increases levels of dopamine, dopamine baseline, along with its cascade compounds(norepinephrine and epinephrine), along with baseline active sexual hormone (mainly testosterone). None of these are standard treatments(don't be a little faggot and get triggered again because I said standard treatment) for depression nor anxiety. If one gives patients with anxiety or depression these substances their symptoms and health get worse. It's why one doesn't prescribe amphetamine to someone if they are depressed, understand little midwit fren? I give zero fucks about your feelings getting triggered.

I think by using your emotional reply as an opportunity for explaining my point further I have helped someone who actually believes in objective science out there while humiliating you back into your two digits IQ place.

Neuroscience jew crap bla bla bla thanks for trying to derail the thread jews now move along

>>42547938
>n-no I didn't
y-yes you did
>>42533692
>you need to cure depression first
>The standard depression cure is to lower dopamine by taking SSRIs.
>>42547641
>Dopamine isn't the pleasure molecule

And since you are right in one thing, it does make me mental to see the pushing of ignorance and agendas, so mental I didn't even realize I replied to the anon asking about depression instead of your original reply, it's time to move on.

>>42548141
The standard depression/anxiety cure is to Lower dopamine by taking SSRIs. A better treatment(absolutely not standard in science) is to increase rest, increase flow state moments, a more /x/ approach is to start with daily Yoga Nidra. There is no agenda in what I'm saying.

Dopamine isn't the pleasure molecule, because there isn't a pleasure molecule, you can experiment this yourself. You are confusing habit formation with pleasure, habit formation is self-prediction, and prediction is encoded by dopamine, so dopamine Is addictive. It's not necessarily pleasant, it can be neutral, it can increase anxiety, it can fire up schizophrenic symptoms(which don't feel good).

So yes, if you have depression you need to cure it first, you can go after the Standard treatment for depression, or you can try something better with much less risks and side-effects. It's the same mechanism though, serotonin needs to go up, dopamine needs to go down, until the body recovers. Once you are mentally healthy, then you have a minimal chance at being successful at semen retention. Before solving such medical issue SR will simply fail over and over again because your body simply can't handle the extra power.