I'm trying to figure out what our actual output is besides observation I noticed that the inner monologue (thoughts) is part of the matrix stream so it's not an output The only thing I can think of is emotions Our emotions are reactions to what we experience Thoughts are the deeper minds reaction to the observers Emotional Reaction to the Deeper minds rendering >Deeper mind renders frame > Observer reacts with emotions > Deeprmind Reacts to emotions with thoughts >observer believes thoughts are thier own Beliefs as well as decisions seem to be part of the matrix data stream
Choices.The Even Deeper Mind™ is **desire** because it leads to arbitrary non-randomness, ergo that means The Deepest Mind™ is not lust but *being*, which is greater than all other things and encircles them by definition.
>>42519570You are overcomplicating/overthinking a little.You *SEEM* to be reframing subjective vs material in more complex terms.The "matrix data stream" claim is an unnecessarily schizoid dressing up of a question that's been attempting to be addressed since the Greek philosophical tradition
>>42519570You're an emotional observer that's it
>>42520260But you are making decisions because your emotions form the thoughts which become beliefs and descions
>>42519570Thoughts are the output where attention energy goes bro?
>>42520260No, you don’t want to cry forever.
Emotions drive attention
>>42520609Emotional attention determines the next frame?
>>42520617Emotional attention repetition forms reality, maybe
>>42519745This. It's probably choice. It is referenced in the movie the matrix as well.I don't know how to describe it, but there is a point where you can catch your emotions early and 'integrate' them in a way, have control over them instead of the other way around. Doesn't mean you don't feel emotions, just that they don't fill you, you sort of hold them in your hand and look at them and pet them cause they re cute.
>>42519570It's all about eternal self love
>>42519745>ChoicesChoice.You have exactly one choice you make constantly.You can choose to accept you have no control.Or you can choose to delude yourself into identifying as the doer.That's it That's your only choice. Your only will.It affects nothing, which is why it is free.
>>42520903Is there more to life than having everything?There is but I won't say what it is
>>42519570>I noticed that the inner monologue (thoughts) is part of the matrix stream so it's not an outputThe inner monologue is both output and input. Some of it is input, for example a spirit whispering something to you that you think is your inner monologue. Other is output, original thought. We don't have much original thought than we think we do.
>>42519570Emotions can be manipulated by spirits. It's why we get certain "vibes" in places or around people.
>>42522625I'm speaking from direct observation not theory What I observed is I make zero thoughts consciously The only thing I do consciously is react emotionally The thoughts are formed in the data stream based off those emotions
>>42519570This Spaniard on a /pol/ thread explained his theory about predetermination pretty well. I dont go on pol but I found it a few years ago when I was using the 4chan search to look up stuff about Taoism, there was a post about Taoism in that thread that was also good https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/428385389/ I also thought something pretty similar or the same as what the OP of that thread thought, but I still also think that free will and the system of cause and effect legitimately does exist and our decisions do affect that process, i just think the reality we're experiencing was designed to make it so that everything IS part of your predetermined path but also that you legitimately DO have free will and your choices do affect what happens. sometimes i think to myself that everything that happens in this life is all part of a "guided tour" for something else after this life, like learning about how existence works and gradually evolving towards becoming a god. but i dont know entirely how i feel about that or whether i really believe that it's true because of how much horrific stuff happens in this world.
>>42519570>>42523363To quote the post linked for anyone who doesn't want to go to the other site: >Your behavior is predetermined by both external input and chemical balance, which in turn depends on genetics and previous experience.Previous experience depends of interacting with other people who have their genetics and experiences. It's a huge non-linear interaction map that goes as far back as the big bang, maybe further. You are not making choices, you're just experiencing them. >What's "free will"? Perhaps it's just a matter of perspective, you think you have freedom of choice because you are given the illusion of choice, but in reality your choices have been predetermined by the physical and chemical rules of the universe. >The meaning of life is witnessing your predetermined path.
>>42519570>>42523363>>42523365Also to quote the post about Taoism from that thread (which is how I found it, I don't go on /pol/): >In Taoism we call that the will of heaven. All things processed according to the song of the heavens. What you fid without knowing why was the will of dky. Or original nature. It's good thing to ho through this without being hindered . Everything happens for a reason and it's time for it to happen. The wisr consider their own times
>>42523278What I said came from observation. But I am schizophrenic/medium so you will likely discredit my observations.If there is no logical reason you are thinking of something it likely came from an outside influence. Including spontaneous creativity.
Nooooooo! What do you mean my thoughts are not only my own? I came up with the idea because of my... Deep mind. Yes! It must be the deep mind because I came up with it because I am intelligent. It's not like spirits can hear your thoughts, that only happens when you pray. The can't give me ideas! They are mine! Who cares if the concept of muse spirits were around for at least 2,700 years and has supporting claims from artists through history. Its MY idea.We are trying to find out about something so no room for theories. Just think about your Deep Mind™ because it's the least disruptive to modern assumptions.