I am considering suicide. I have already fucked up enough so dont hit me with all that "you have value" shit. I am just wondering how the afterlive would look for someone like me (if it would be better or worse), and if this decision would be worth it in the grand scheme of things.
>>42526528How could you ever know? How could anyone? Closest we have is NDE reports but even those vary significantly. That’s the whole thing. It might get better. It might not. It might be nothingness. None are more likely than any other because we just don’t fucking know.
>>42526528~Soul Vortex~where you get Eaten then reincarnated as an object.
>>42526528My attitude is that we are either in control of our destiny, or we are not. If we are in control, you can do whatever you want after you die. Reincarnate, go to some other realm, float around in the astral, etc. If we aren't in control, then we don't have any say anyway, so it's pointless to worry about what some third party might do to you. There is no basis for believing that our actions in this realm will actually factor in once we get to the other side
what afterlife? this is the one chance you had and you fucked it up. either cling on to whatever happiness you might yet still squeeze out of it or give it up.
>>42526528It would be worse. The physical plane is the best place to be if you want to improve your existence.
>>42526528Pray to Jesus for help, or god
>>42526528honestly, yes. go for it
the only buddhist sutta where buddha gives his consent to suicide is for a monk who is terminally ill and in extreme pain, and also already reached sotapanna, which is the first step on the nibbana path. to me, anything less than this specific scenario is a bad idea. you still have work to do here clearly, listen to >>42526572 and >>42526720 and ignore everyone else in this thread
>>42526528You got a sacrifice your life to do something good to acquire good karma that way dummy
don't listen to >>42526764 and only to >>42526761
>>42526528You will probably get harvested by Reptilians. Better to stay alive than see a fate worse than death.
>>42526528Nothing here will change by it. If you are prepared to live among your demons impersonating your close ones and friends then it will be like a dream. Dont know about memory though. Join us by using these numbers 57 67 23. Imagine phone or yourself picking up phone and let me know what it said. I’m helping ppl escape
>>42526539Bro just ate vortex of souls. Nice try
>>42526720Jewsus. I hope the lamb and sheep are ready until appointed time
>>42526528Everyone who jumped off the Golden Gate bridge and lived said the regretted the decision right after they jumped
>>42526528I learned from tibetan lamas that suicide often leads to a rebirth as a disabled or retarded person.
>>42526528>how the afterlive would look for someone like melike a failure>if this decision would be worth itonly retards believe that things will get easier after suicide, everything good takes effort
>>42527530>everything good takes effortwhat about children playing on the playground?
>>42527358Life as a retard would unironically be better than my current situation
>>42527604well then there's your ticket
>>42526528I'm being serious with this, I think they have deployed some sort of 'suicide' energy ray or some shit, since a month ago I had EXTREMELY INTENSE suicidal thoughts, like how you probably are feeling. They were beyond horrific and unlike anything I have seriously felt (had mild before, but this was new), lasted like 2-3 weeks then suddenly vanished.Even if it feels fully legit right now, when it wore off for me I realized I was being a full-blown retard and delusional. I would ensure you aren't being fucked with a glow-ray first. And second try to endure it for a few weeks at least
>>42526528You'll suffer for eternity no matter what if you kill yourself, so might as well kill some people you dont like while youre at itKill some jews and I'll pray for youre punishment to be as light as possible
>>42526528dew it :)
Don't do it anon, I pray for you fren. We should all see this shit show through to the end.
>>42526528I'm high as fuck on Clonazepam, Pregabalin and Buprenorphine. Before you consider an heroing, then at least try to enjoy whatever time you have left. Also go to a psychiatrist.
>>42526528You ever see a jar of marbles? Imagine that, but it's shaking/vibrating slightly. That's what the afterlife feels like until you rearrange into a proper organism(s).
>>42526528we're all in this together stop being a pussy i have to suffer you do too.
>>42526528After you kill yourself the despair won't disappear. That's a safeguard to make sure people actually learn a lesson before reincarnation.
>>42527967There are no lessons to learn in pointless suffering. Tell your budddhist or whatever New Age idiocy to people who were brutally murdered or live in places like Haiti. What lessons do they learn? Nothing. We also learn nothing. No matter what knowledge, technology and World we leave to our children, we are born without any knowledge except simple instincts and die knowing nothing about what lies after death or what Universe truly is. We die as newborns. Everything people did to this point is to make their lives easier, decrease needless suffering before they inevitably die. You have no right to claim there's an afterlife or reincarnation. Those are stories written down by people who, again, needed a reason to cope with their suffering.
>>42528005Did you even read? Suicide has no relation to someone else getting murdered. Those are different things.
>>42526528>and if this decision would be worth it in the grand scheme of thingsNo, it won't be. It's a dumb decision for most people. The mind can be tuned out of whatever funk you're in. We're at the precipice of something big on this planet, and you're gonna check out early because....?
>>42528005whys some anon parroting my talking points now. CIA cloned me ffs
>>42527799>he noticed, turn it up some more!
>>42528005bait
I had 7 people close to me check out early because their pussies hurt. Every one of them just made life that much harder for the people they left behind. If the world is just materialistic, then of all possibility, you Exist when probability says that you should not. If reality is Idealistic and you check or early, it means you fail because you haven't even realized what the nature is the game is. So, either way, checking out early is the path of least resistance for the fags that can't complete shit. Don't be a fag- seek the Stone of the Philosopher.
>>42527799Weird. I have been having obsessive/repetitive thoughts about this, the suicide inducement ability or tech or what have you. Like an entiy or someone with some kinda tech will beam a pulse of power at their target while saying something like "Commit suicide, no fight, no fight!!!, and usually either the target quickly succumbs or reflects it back to the caster who promptly kills themselves instead. Possession is involved often too, but I think I got this directly from a manga called Alive: The Final Evolution.
>>42526528Noooo, Migga. Think of all the people that will miss you, haha.
Famous last quotes>"ACKKKKKKKKK" - Migga Biscuit
>>42528624>No you can't just do that, you'll lose the game!>And no I can't tell you what the "game" is or even what "winning" looks like, just..........trust me bro!
https://youtu.be/zhpYCxiI-4U?si=g4t_Txqn7br-NhWa&t=1933OP needs to learn from other people who kill themselves, and needs to make a journal.
>>42526528There is no escape. The only option is to overcome.
This >>42528889. The instant you die you'll come sliding out of a pussy, screaming and crying at the horror of just coming right back here. And your next life will be even worse in a bid to wake you the fuck up to your true purpose here. So ask yourself: Do you want to figure stuff out now as a full grown man, or do you want to risk going through another rough life and not even remembering what it is you're supposed to be doing?
>>42526528Meditate and think positive thoughts. Create a personal garden within yourself before you do it. The theory that as you die, time slows down, and then the "afterlife" is basically you living inside your head. It's important to be in a happy elated mood before you go, at the least.
>>42526528If you think it has negative implications you've already lost. Its kind of like sin where the real truth is that there is not some big mean god that will judge you. The judge is yourself. And if you feel you have cheated or wronged yourself or others that were important to you then yes you will feel the consequences. Suicide IMO could only really be done form a perspective of excitement for the after more so then hating of the now. The premise of what's to come is so incredible it doesn't even feel like death more of a transition. If you're mainly thinking of suicide because "everything here sucks" then you're just gambling on any random thing happening. Only with belief in a specific afterlife outcome that you desire do you IMO have any chance of a positive outcome with suicide.
>>42526528I go through horrific urges of suicide pretty much every day. Imagining what my skull looks like after a bullet goes through it. Staring at my wrists thinking about cutting them open. Thinking of a plan telling everyone I'm moving to get rid of my possessions and just finding a place to do it. I've been isolating myself more than usual lately, makes me think of how some animals try to hide when they know they will die. Idk.
>>42526528get to the root of why you fucked upthat's your current purposegenerally it's the same for everybodystop identifying with your emotionsstop reacting based on your emotionsstop making decisions based on your emotionsstop identifying with your thoughtsstop identifying with your egostop living in the past (regret)stop living in the future (worry)remain presentlet go of your attachmentsNo one knows what happens when you die, really. But if we're all here to do more or less this same thing -- at the minimum you'll be right back here to face all of the same challengesMight as well just face them now
>>42528270>>42528774Might not even be a literal ray - could be like MKUltra, like subliminal messages in media or the internet, trigger phrases, etc. It only entered my mind because 2-3 days into the episode I saw on /x/ a popular thread that said something like "a shift happened" and anons were talking about suddenly feeling weird and/or depressed. Very weird 'coincidence'
Fuck this world.Im time you die.Where do you go?
Do woo will wan ta hurt meeee!Do wooou will want to make me cwai!
>>42526537I'm not an avid listener of NDE reports. Do they ever feature suicides? suicide is so taboo that I imagine they suppress the reports, regardless of the report content.
>>42527565they make so much effort their parents have to pluck them away and bring them home to eat before they fall asleep.
>>42528005There is one though, and that is that my suffering originates in my actions alone.
>>42526528If you consider the possibility of an afterlife being worse than your current experience, then you shouldn’t do it. I’m not suicidal and i consider that no afterlife could be worse than my life, even if that afterlife includes someone shoving a red hot pitchfork in my ass for centuries. As Lovecraft said:>I knew not which to believe, yet longed more and more to cross forever into the unknown land; for doubt and secrecy are the lure of lures, and no new horror can be more terrible than the daily torture of the commonplace.
>>42526528Change your diet. Listen to Project Pat. Get fit. You got this my nigga. Also, you have no rights to end your journey. Shit is just getting started and an anchor can drop so far down before reaching bottom. Then, the only way you have is UP. I believe in you anon, stick to life.
>>42530523>victim blamingEither narcissist or insecure faggot with low self eateem
>>42529233>your true purpose here Loosh generation.This place is loosh farm.>So ask yourself: Do you want to figure stuff out now as a full grown manI already did that.
>>42530600Sucks to be you I guess, no proper way to deal with a fundamentally bad guy like me but to pick up your toys and fuck off!
>>42526528please dont kill yourself buddy<3
Awww the toxicity of your city...Getting to ya meatsack...As to your call...So we echo...How this (Op) cunt...Knocking off work early...Must need to take a shit...
>>42530501Only one I’ve ever read resembling that concept was a green text I read here. Basically, anon’s beloved uncle passed away really young. Flash forward many years and anon hangs himself for mostly unrelated reasons. He has an NDE, basically, and uncle tells him>you won’t get another oneAnd then anon woke up in the hospital. Anon was pretty specific about how the noose could not have failed for one reason or another. It was really weird but could lead one to believe that you’re not immediately damned just for trying, depending on at least some circumstances.
>>42530618>Loosh generation.>This place is loosh farmlol, you really are a simpleton, aren't you. Yeah, it's a loosh farm, that's not the point of this place or our reason for being here. It's a loosh farm out of necessity, in order to keep the lights on. This realm is cut off from the light of the divine, it needs to get energy from somewhere.
>>42531858>vaguepostingSo what is it?
>>42532130You come here as a pure but undeveloped soul. Since you have no defenses against the temptations of the world, you gradually become corrupted by them. Then you spend numerous lifetimes as an npc. Then you wake up, start purifying your subconcious(by looking towards the divine instead of the world), and eventually leave this place as something greater than you came. My guess is from there, we travel to other realms with different things to learn and different abilities to acquire to further develop our souls. Suicide just prolongs your time here and will just thrust you into a worse situation.
>>42526528Im glad you took the time to ask anon. When we die, we go to Heaven, Rest, or Torment, where we await our resurrection in Heaven to the Earth as believers. Those at Rest (where you would likely go if you haven't done anything bad enough for torment but had still done sin and not repented of it) await judgment at the end of days (i.e. The Great Tribulation) and their resurrection into Heaven or hell. If you're at Rest and not in Torment for most of your time in sheol you're ashooing for Heaven. Same if you're a newcomer there.You would go to torment if you did more than take your own life over stupid reasons. If you sinned and are taking your life as an act of repentance, consider confessing so that you *do* have value.I got all this information by conflating the Quran with the Bible and the Old Testament and rationalizing what was contradicting as what was additive from the Quran or the Lawless One.
>>42531858we aren't cut off from the ONE...we are the ONE and when you realize that you'll be much better off. The more you thrash around...seeking for things like love and materials, waging and earning fervently, traveling to and fro, getting into political arguments, etc etc the more you muddy up the water , so to speak. Your activity burns in the Dao like a fire with logs and you keep feeding it more and more. The water will clear if you only have the presence of mind to let it sit still. The fire will stop raging if you don't provide more fuel. Somewhere between extremes of the still and the active there must be a balance to harmonize and that is your choice. Right now ...you can choose ..add more propagating waves to the medium which are causing pattern interference and turmoil....or take a moment and watch the grass grow, let things settle a bit..enjoy a few moments of pure silence, be present and just observe things with no distractions. May the 'force" be with you
>>42526528>I have already fucked up enoughLol. Lmao even.You have not fucked up enough yet,
>>42532385Never too late to fuck up harder :)
>>42532360>we are oneSo many naive white women were brainwashed by the World Economic Forum.Garbage.
>>42529233I flirted with a fairy in hyperspace and now their gay vampire hivemind wont leave me alone. I guess they Satanically enslave and torture people. So we're just going to have to go full blown Nigger Meltdown and destroy this world once and for all.Though I really would like to pin a fairy girl and make her squeak with my meaty, throbbing member. But the demiurge is reeeeally protective of his ladies! They are simply too precious to run off with a scumbag like me.
>>42526528>dont hit me with all that "you have value" shit.I absolutely despise worldly sweet nothing sayings like that, they're usually said by the same people who bully people into suicide idealation too. I will give a cliche but it is one that actually worked for me which is seeing as you apparently have nothing to lose, you should seek Christ. I've been in situations where I wanted to end it too but the idea that God is real and i'd die in my sins and go to hell is was what stopped me (was agnostic at the time) and since giving God a go I feel like I actually have purpose in life now.My main regret in life was not taking a leap of faith earlier as I don't think i'd make even close to the amount of mistakes if I had read a book like Proverbs earlier, but at the same time the delay just added more to my testimony and I will still get the same prize of eternal life when God decides to stop giving oxygen to my flesh anyway