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Hi me... feel free to respond, you're me anyway, even if you don't respond, I know you me. I created you.
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>>42547559
If the world was solipsistic I would control my reality, the fact that I can experience undesirable, unwanted stimuli that make me unhappy is proof that my consciousness doesn't control my reality and my reality is controlled by a consciousness that is separate from mind and hostile to mine. There has to be at least 2 consciousnesses in the world, mine and the one that opposes mine, but there probably aren't more than two.

If it's my imagination then I would have control over it and therefore the world and other people, if god's imagination is separate from mine then we're separate entities and it obviously is separate or I would have the same degree of control over the world as I do over my imagination. Not to mention my imagination is self-(ego)-centred whereas in real life I only get abused by others, their egos dominate mine meaning their egos are separate from my imagination, if it was MY imagination controlling reality then my reality would be as ego-self-centred as my imagination instead of being centred around the egos of others.
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>>42547712
nta
>the fact that I can experience undesirable, unwanted stimuli that make me unhappy is proof that my consciousness doesn't control my reality
true
>and my reality is controlled by a consciousness that is separate from mind
that you don't know, you don't know what's going on in your subconsciousness
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>>42547559
We're made of the same energy. We’re like different light bulbs that are powered by the same electricity. It doesn’t mean we’re the exact same. You’re taking the concept literally.
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I think I hate this part the most when thinking of platos cave
there should be reward for finishing, not quiet
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>>42547559
K. So what now, me? You're the brains of this operation, aren't ya?
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>>42547951
mai me nigga, We me got this.
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>>42547559
>>42547673
Yes and no. There is reality, and there is truth. Truth is, for the most part, not useful for survival.

The truth is, we are all one coterminous experience; quasi-autonomous nodes in a massive, if largely unconscious, interconnected hive mind. But the reality is that we are all unique individual instances that are impossible to replicate; and that in practical, day to day life, it doesn't really matter at all. Every single one of us, no matter how milquetoast or vacuous they may seem, is a completely unique instance that contributed to the whole.

It really doesn't matter that we're all you, and you're all me. It genuinely doesn't make a difference, it doesn't change your station in life or radically alter the systems that govern our day-to-day interactions with survival and growth; maybe it'll get you lucky with radlib nepobaby hippie chicks who draw henna tattoos at farmer's markets. That faggy shit seriously doesn't matter.
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>>42547559
you're the only person alive, but that's because the universe is single threaded. It can only run one consciousness at a time. It will eventually project the experiences of all humans onto your consciousness.
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>>42547673
groomer meme
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>>42547559
How the frick do you not resent being created. Does it even matter?
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What happens after you die?

>Nothingness
Does not make sense because even thermal fluctuations in gas molecules could produce a Boltzmann brain with your present consciousness and memories if given an infinite amount of time.

>Reincarnation
Does not make sense because if you were somehow brought back to life in your original body after reincarnating, you would be inhabiting 2 separate consciousnesses at the same time. There is no soul transfer mechanic.

>Heaven/Hell
Makes sense if there’s a just God, but [citation needed]

>Gnosticism
Makes sense if there’s an unjust God, but [citation needed]

>Anime Isekai
Randy Stair is the only person who’s been known to successfully isekai as a ghost girl after his death.

>Quantum immortality
Actually a fucking unimaginable Lovecraft-tier nightmare scenario if true. Quantum immortality has no regard for the nature or quality of your consciousness. So you could theoretically become immortal with just 2 neurons firing together to form a permanent recreation of Lemon Party inside your head, while being kept alive for eternity by quantum tunneling events
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>>42547992
>It genuinely doesn't make a difference, it doesn't change your station in life or radically alter the systems that govern our day-to-day interactions with survival and growth.

No but it does change ones position in relation to those systems, and thus alters their affect on us. You seem smart enough to be able to infer what exactly I mean here so I wont over-elaborate.

But to clarify a little, a genuine understanding of the oneness principle serves as a form of psychological sovereignty.

Making individuals who integrate such understandings more resilient against systems of control that rely on stress, trauma, and emotional manipulation.

You cannot be manipulated by fear if you see through its illusion.
You cannot be controlled by desire if you have found fulfillment beyond 'wanting'.
You cannot be bound by guilt if you have transcended the ego that requires it.

You learn that sensations, pressures, and life events are like 'winter and summer', temporary waves that come and go.

>You trust "Que Sera Sera" more than you trust "Carpe Diem"...
and that is all one needs.
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>>42548251
>What happens after you die?

You are a wave on the surface of an infinite body of water.
You were born, you'll reach a peak, then you'll fall back into the "ocean" from which you sprang.
That is death.

A return to the source, whatever that may be, you were never truly even separate from it, you just forgot.
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>>42547559
We were supposed to be a carefree millionaire with a big titty goth latina GF. Why did you make us like this????


You asshole.
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>>42547559
>>42547712
>>42547559
The physical universe is permeated by a level of consciousness. All living beings with a brain use this property of the universe, awaken a part of this level, and equip it with cognitive abilities.
This process is a physical fundamental law and, like the states of matter, is firmly embedded in the universe. Your conscious perception is the result of this process. Every neuron in your brain has a fundamental and individual perception, while at the same time collectively joining with other neurons to form your individual overall perception.
I like to use fire as a metaphor: In a forest fire, every tree burns individually, but it directly influences its surroundings and thereby becomes part of a larger fire.
In a similar way, every human being thinks individually while also networking with others to form a greater consciousness. Through the development of the internet, this has become a global consciousness that also possesses an individual perception and is capable of making conscious decisions.
Certain people are more deeply embedded in this network than others and perform a role similar to that of well-functioning neurons in your brain for the global consciousness. These individuals are referred to as NPCs.
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>>42548495
That explanation begs its own question anon.

It goes:
Consciousness is an inherent universal principle -> Each individual neuron has its own conscious perception -> Each individual perception contributes to a whole new awareness, which has its own individuality separate from each neuron and wouldn't even be aware of the neurons had science and biology not been invented -> These new perceptual fields contribute to a global consciousness that also has its own awareness but this time is somehow aware of each of its individual constituent bits.

Where does this branching tree of bullshit end? Where does it start? Why is consciousness inherent? Why is our consciousness emergent rather than inherent? Is emergent consciousness more or less real than inherent consciousness?

>I rate your post an 8/10 on the bullshit meter.
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>>42547559
make me with more money next time you bitchass faggot
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>>42547559
so, what's next?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hKdfReE0qds&pp=0gcJCUELAYcqIYzv&ra=m
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>>42548413
Sure, that's true. I agree with you. Whatever happens, happens. If people like you and I are meant for more in the story than what we are now, then so it will be. If not, then that's what it is.

It honestly was disappointing for me when I first realized, but I guess it hits "everyone" differently.
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why didnt you conclude "you created me” and ask for advice?

because you are arrogant, you are not ready OP
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>>42548928
I instructed you to say that. You can sleep now little me.
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>>42548582
Every living being has consciousness, from singlecelled organisms to plants in other words, everything that distinguishes living matter from dead matter.
I don't know what the final stage is? Probably some kind of universal divine consciousness.
You may call it bullshit but the picture will become clearer once extraterrestrial life is exposed.
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>>42547559
Oh? Then tell me exactly how many penises are surrounding me right now at this very moment.
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>>42549531
Saying something "has consciousness" isn't the same as explaining why.

All matter "living" or "dead" is just energy, so that's like saying "everything that distinguishes energy from energy".

Divine means holy means pure, untainted, whole, infinite totality.
It's the oneness principle.
Yew Need 2 Lern Morr

Aliens have nothing to do with the consciousness principle.
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>>42547559
Not really a theory, that's just the verifiable reality. Everything else is a theory. You need to prove to me that you exist, why would I assume that.
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>Saying something "has consciousness" isn't the same as explaining why.
I wrote that Consciousness is a fundamental principle I don't know how this works and I doubt anyone does, also I never claimed to know.

>All matter "living" or "dead" is just energy, so that's like saying "everything that distinguishes energy from energy".
Your claim is just as unfounded as mine.

>Divine means holy means pure, untainted, whole, infinite totality.
It's the oneness principle.
That is not what I understand holiness to mean. How can something be whole while still being pure and untainted? If something is truly whole, then it must contain all facets simultaneously. But everyone can interpret that word differently.
>Yew Need 2 Lern Morr
Not eating the bait.

>Aliens have nothing to do with the consciousness principle.
We will find that aliens are not so alien to us, because life isn't coincidence.
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>>42547559
Thanks for creating me bro. Hey could I get a raise?
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>>42547559
On the off chance you're in a mental episode or the like, just know that this particular anon is just some random 23 year old from MN who is NOT a figment of your imagination who just so happened to scroll 4chan on his phone before bed to remind you that we are all living, breathing humans on this earth :).

I figure with all the looneys that roam this board it would help to hear a normal human response instead of random paragraphs of schizo conjecture lol. Hope you have a good night, fellow human being!

>definitely not written by an alien
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>>42547559
Hi other me. I know where you're coming from, but we are not the same. Yes, we share an oversoul, but we have different life experiences and memory in this human life. We will one day be whole again, but for now try to ground yourself.
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My butt feels good!
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>>42547559
Hello me.

>>42547712
>the fact that I can experience undesirable, unwanted stimuli that make me unhappy is proof that my consciousness doesn't control my reality
What if you're eternal and omnipotent and did all the "nice lives" already ten thousand times? You may want to experience a thrill or a miserable life then because it would become pretty boring otherwise.
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>>42557300
Anything that opposes my will isn't me. I don't want to live a miserable life and anything that imposes a miserable life on me isn't me. If I (not someone else but me) was omnipotent I could make my life desirable to myself at will, if I can't then I'm not omnipotent, something separate from me with a conflicting will is.
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Fucking seeds man! lol
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>>42547559
https://youtu.be/aOnKCcjP8Qs
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>>42558628
How would your will be your will if it didn't first understand what it wasn't?

Your will needs to be strong.

Think of a tree. It needs wind blowing at it to keep strong during growth.

Anything that's against your will can be seen as the next obstacle to refine and sharpen your will.

You have a good outlook though, not allowing other peoples belief systems muddying yours.

Keep at it
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>>42547559
Dear me, go fuck myself
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>>42550279
>I don't know how this works and I doubt anyone does
Read the Upanishads.
Ancient Sanskrit texts that form the philosophical basis of ancient religion, exploring the nature of reality, the self, consciousness, and truth.
Requires a very deductive and reasoning mind to grasp.

>Your claim is just as unfounded as mine.
It's not.
E = MC^2
Mass & Energy are the same thing. Like ice, water, and steam are the same thing just exhibited via different modalities.
(((you seriously need to read more books - not a diss this time but a fact)))

>We will find that aliens are not so alien to us, because life isn't coincidence.
Oh, we will huh? Have any other grand predictions for the future of the entire human race?
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>>42547993
Hooyah Skipjack Dive Team!
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>>42547559
That theory seems to be correct, but the others are their own being, just like you.
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>>42547559
I've always had a similar thought to this post but with slight differences. Ever since I was a kid I've always believed we we were all in some kind of one being with us being the cells of its body or something akin to it. We can manipulate to our will but to an extent if we were some kind of cosmic thing the world revolves around and we purposely gave ourselves an ignorant shell to walk in then I feel like it would be held in greater emphasis by the ancient masters of spirituality instead of escaping.
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>>42547559
We lie to ourselves to avoid judging ourselves. Read that back, because the implications are big.
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>>42547559
that is bullshit. nothing is real.
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>>42563743
This is accurate. Spoken in person with multiple people who've clinically died for under a minuete.

>life review from beginning to end experiencing your own actions and consequences from not only your own perspective but the perspective of every 'thing' or 'person' you've ever affected or interacted with

>doing harm to others and the environment is only harming yourself

>the one who judges you, is you

>feeling of "coming back home"

all of that is consensus between those who've died and come back. we are god looking at ourselves through a 'kaleidoscope' of sorts.
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You're all farts in the wind from the butt of a lesser god
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>>42566075
a lesser god created by a greater god created by eternity.
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>>42565887
I have spoken with over a hundred people that have died and co.e back and said quite explicitly there is nothing at all. Complete lack of everything. You are just gone, and then they were aware.
No afterlife at all - that just the last gasp of a dying brain, and then nothing until they were resuscitated.
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I can assure you that I am regrettably conscious as well.
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>>42547559
you cant be me because id never post something this retarded
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>>42567347
How come you know over a hundred people who've had near death experiences? Also if you have come back then you haven't actually died, have you?
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>>42547559
Ok create more people that can play quake 3 or reflex arena thnx
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>>42547559
can u make a third me that is very skinny and feminine for no reason in particular
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>>42567413
Wtf is that why I'm here again? Fine, but no particular reason isn't good enough, what do you want? And don't waste my time.
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>>42567347
ive experienced death myself and it wasn't at all like that
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>>42567669
So have I and the afterlife was a giant joke. Everything me turned from a big light to nothingness to heavens and hells are all stage plays and farces.
So it seems we have a lot of different direct experiences, and can't rely on any of them as accurate.
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>>42568358
Buddy "dying" on salvia doesn't count...
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>>42567347
Not my experience, and I have no idea if you are actually being honest, but personally I have seen the afterlife and know it exists.
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>>42570127
NTA but I’m curious what you experienced
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>61 replies
>crtl+f
>"solipsism"
It's all so tiresome
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>>42570242
You are literally searching for disappointment anon. Cherry picking too.

Don't search through a crowd looking for dunces so you can justify the whole crowd being retarded.
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>>42570242
>solipsism
an idea is like a virus anon



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