Hello, I feel like making one of these threads. I don't like to post too much on this forum but I heard about it since I was in my 30s. It's my understanding that 4chan arose from those people wearing those masks to protest something back in the 2000s. I'm a 51 year old now and have a boyfriend who posts here and am wondering what you can say about his chart as well as mine. I do my best to be as ethical and understanding as I can given the age gap between us. I also make the lion's share of the income though I won't say anything about my career. He is really understanding and supportive while I am undergoing menopause. I am honestly thinking of marrying him. Thank you all in advance!This thread is also for anyone else to share their charts. May all of you feel loved!
redpill me on Chiron
Honest question - are heavy Saturn/Capricorn placements a past life curse? Is it worse if you are a man or a woman?>late bloomer if at all>constant difficulties (external or internal), simple things are 10x more difficult for no reason>crushing invisible burdens >constantly morose or pondering the significance of things>constantly unworthy or diminished in the eyes of others, feel less than human>preached at and parented by everyone>whysoserious.jpg>had the potential for intellectual talkative chart but came out taciturn and retarded>wild mood swings, wild perspective swings, wild energy level changes, wild identity shiftsI urgently need some reassurance in the form of an invitation to kys or an astrological beating. Thank you saars
>>42550482he hurts therefore he makes you hurt too. also, you can never make it better
>>42550482>>42550896I was told that Mars in Chiron can make you have bad sexual fetishes. Is that true?
>>42549940Why are you into someone significantly younger? Are you playing momma and babe?
>>42550920how does planet in asteroid work? does mars penetrate chiron? hot
>>42550524I know a Borderline Personality Disorder woman born May 4, 1991 who has a very similar chart to you
>>42551171Looked up a general chart for that date>Moon-Uranus-Neptune conjunctionSingle most deranged combo for mental illness if there ever was, if you ask me a connoisseur Add to that these crazy configs, for that BPD woman:>Sun Pluto opposition>Sun square Saturn>Venus in Gemini>Mars conjunction ChironI suddenly feel better about myself, a bit. But I too was diagnosed with BPD in my youth, I evolved into schizo in my mature years
>>42549940will i have a successful writing career?
>>42550524Count the caprigay placements on this guy. It boggles the mind how so many are possible. He is literally made out of gears. He is the fakest most NPC person alive and he has the audacity to keep showing off his chart and ask for insights on it as if there is anything sophisticated to know. He radiates pure NPC energy and that is why everyone treats him like shit because they can feel what he is. He tries to larp as someone with deep thoughts and complicated emotions as a cope but it's forced and contrived. His true nature is NPC.There is a zero percent chance he has a soul. The simulation made him out of clay to make it feel more alive. You're looking at the chart of a living breathing background character. Use it as a reference to find more of them.
>>42551726>saturn in aries conjunct the ascendant
>>42551679You have the lot of fortune in your 5th house, but it's conjunct with your south node, which is like a mute button for whatever it is close to, so your chart seems to be indicating you will not make a lot of money on creative pursuits.However, you have Pluto and Mercury in your second house, which is the house primarily associated with money and resources. That means Mercury is in detriment, it is in one of the signs opposite it's home domiciles of gemini and virgo. That means it is in "enemy territory" so to speak, and constantly stressed out. So your communication style is highly disorganized and this disorganization reaches it's peak with issues related to finances and resources, especially finances and resources that have to do with foreign experiences, or higher education (think student loans), exotic jobs that require a complete change of lifestyle, all of which are things you highly value and desire in your life. You don't want some boring ordinary job, or some boring ordinary source of income. You seek out the unconvential sources of material wealth, and even define "wealth" itself in a more exotic and unusual manner, a more philosophical manner. But you are not really very good at explaining this to people or articulating your thoughts. You think this way, but you don't really show it. Especially with Jupiter in your 4th house, the house of privacy and personal life, home life, the opposite of your public life and visible actions. Jupiter is operating in a more domestic role here, almost conjunct your IC, so it is at the very root and foundation of your entire life and identity. Jupiter is the force in the universe that affirms and says "yes" to everything (for good or for worse), so this indicates having an easy time at home, not meeting must resistance from anything in the home life. At home, you basically have your way all the time, or someone lets you have your way and even helps you out. This will tie directly into your source of income.
>>42550524No.
>>42549940Don't have kids with him. Home boy has Mars in opposition to the 5th house ruler. On some levels, I look at this and I see that it's Saturn, so it might work out a bit differently, but bro it's still the ruler of the 5th and it's still worth warning you about. I see this shit all the time. A woman comes in with a chart with Mars opposition Jupiter. Jupiter rules the 4th in her chart. She shows me her father's chart. Mars opposition Jupiter. Jupiter rules the 5th. Dad raped her as a child.This goes for most planets I've seen thus far, but it's just that we can't be sure given that Saturn can inhibit these things, but it also causes massive fucking degenerates.Funny enough you have the same aspect in your chart, but it operates differently. Either way, let's hope it doesn't happen.
What does all this shit mean? I've posted this chart many times and no one has fully deciphered it, or thell make one meaningless remark.
Mars 8th house scorpio What does it mean?
>>42552566>more aspects = more gooderAlso you are about 16 or something, not a good a place for a youngin.
>>42552579Violent death.
>>42552605Do I have a lot of good aspects?
what are some steps I can do to balance all the different energy's that I have as I seems to fluctuate between extremes
even the cosmos know me and my mom weren't meant to get along :(
>>42552637No, just that the default settings are ideal. More aspect does not in-fact make things better. They aren't even the most important thing when it comes to reading a chart. Your chart has a fair bit of tension, might be some issues with your father. Your friends may cause you a bit of grief, but you do try to have good clean wholesome fun where you can. Could have some kids and your financial situation may be okayish.
>>42552672Being centered in wherever your home is, probably where you'll find the greatest join. Your emotional instability is due to your Aries Moon.
>>42552766greatest joy*
>>42552693I can't tell exactly by how much but your mom had you fairly young in her life.I've noticed that younger mothers (late teens-early 20s) tend to grow up with either immense support and love for their child later on or grow to resent them because they weren't really ready to take on the responsibility of raising a child, and that can carry on for years.I don't know the details of the relationship between you and your mother, but the generational planets give me a bit of a hint of what it could've been.
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>>42552860>>42552863Synastry reading please
>>42552827I have an older sister and a younger brother. Out of all of us I have by far the roughest synastry with our mom. All of them share birth under a new moon while I'm the only one born under a full(ish) moon. It sucks to be the odd one out at times but maybe it was meant to be.
>>425528898th house signifies: death, other people's money/assests, and inheritances. Mars signifies: violence, high energy, severance, no inhibitions. Mars in the 8th is notorious for a violent death, astrology is fuzzy though so you never know exactly how such things may ultimately manifest.
Would one be willing to go over some horary/electional charts with me?It's an emotionally heavy matter so I'm kinda worried about my own interpretations being untrustworthy. I can drop my burner discord or something if anyone is willing I'd rather not discuss my problems at length publicly
So whats the deal boss
>>42550524Double Capricorn here, rising and moon conjunct. I will help you.>past life curseIt's a past/future life challenge. You have a ton of Cap including the North Node which means that if you figure out Capricorn in this life you'll make a lot of soul progress. I'm not sure how it would be for a gril, but it's challenging for both I'm sure.Only some of the greentext you listed is true for Caps. The others are due to your conjunctions and the Chiron opposition imo. I see that you're past your first Saturn Return and it sounds like you may not have navigated it successfully since suffering results if you don't.Listen, you have to fucking grind. Are you gainfully employed? Do you have your own place? Have you accomplished anything in your life? Are you continuing to better yourself? These are the things you need to do to satisfy Capricorn and Saturn who rules this sign.Yes I understand your Chiron opposition makes you feel shitty. Go forwards anyway. Positive affirmations sound cringe but they actually help to disrupt rumination if that's something you indulge in. Meditation is also incredibly useful as a deconditioning technique. There is light at the end of the tunnel. Capricorn's symbol is the mountain goat. We can climb to the highest peak and the world will be at our feet. When we master ourselves, we actually age backward, we learn how to play and we finally have some fucking fun. This is what waits for you if you put in the hard work
>>42550524Can confirmLife is hell
>>42553508I feel sorry for you that you actually have no choice but to believe this, because accepting the alternative, that you're just fucked, is so much more work and so much harder for you to do, because it requires you to take a step down from your ego.
>>42551726>Thats why everyone treats him like shitNpcs have the easiest time to fit in and not be obstracizedAre you retarded?
>>42553672I successfully navigated my first Saturn Return and am doing pretty well. I'm looking forward to enjoying my summer because I'm going to my favorite festival. The trick about Saturn is that he rewards you if you complete his requirements
>>42551080Hags WON. Millenoids never stood a chance against virile zvvmer bvlls.https://www.vogue.com/article/why-millennial-women-love-gen-z-men
>>42553656I'll ask you the same things. Are you doing the work you need to advance in life? Not just materially/careerwise but in your relationships too?
>>42553768What is "doing the work" regarding relationships?Applying dumb normie platitudes that pretends to be advice, that is all over the internet? Yeah ive been doing that for most of my lifeZero results, obviously
What does it mean to have venus in pisces? I think kurt cobain had that
>>42554019>venus in piscesWhat house?Intense feelings and lots of idealization i think
>>42553748>vogue
>>42550524Mate...Night chart makes Saturn uncomfortable. And Saturn looks combust so it's EXTRA annoyed, RIP. At least since you're a night chart, you are likely going to function more from your Moon energies, which are fucked up and sandwiched between planets who don't fit into the society accepted idea of "normal" much. Which being all in Capricorn with so much Capricorn and Scorpio focus, must be.. a very suck experience. Rip x2
>>425540321st house
>>42553678this is what unhealed unaccomplished Saturn sounds like. And on the rising/horizon, it's in everyone's face. You hear him screeching long before you even see him
>>42552566I think it's a powerful chart that can leave its mark (Pluto 3H of the mind and immediate environment + Mars on the 10H of public reputation). I can envision an important high impact career for you as well, though I can't tell what. You also are or come across as intellectual. Maybe a high ranking politician or some elite?
>>42554156Really? Thats sounds like the opposite of an npc
>>42553006I think Kennedy had 8th Mars amongst other things and he got shot in the head (violence, head - Mars)
>>42552759I don't have a good relationship with my mother but we're okay ish, I'm slow to my father though. I do tend to pick bad friends it was weird I remember one in 7th grade who would insult me randomly but when I insulted him he cried like a bitch, I think it had something to do with his mother.>>42554171Yeah I lay of my family and friends do say I I come off as smart but sometimes I do just bullshit>>42554049I have a night chart in a crescent moon how well aspected are they?>>42552566
>>42549940I'm struggling with work, can't get a decent career and not sure where to go from here. I rely usually on extreme optimism but I've past my saturn return and just drifting at the moment.
>>42554220>I'm closer to my father>Alot of my
>>42553006>>42554182Wow and I dont even have the charisma of kennedy to compensate such an outcome
Anything good or bad here?
>>42553656Mate you're a few days before me I think. Fucking hell. And you're still alive too, and on this board. You must be my twin >Venus in Capricorn>Conjunct Saturn, Uranus and Neptune >Opposite ChironYour suffer society/relationship wise what I suffer ego/identity wise (for me it's Sun in that position but Venus isn't better off). Hot damn still very interesting How are your relationships in general?
>>42552361thank you for the extensive write up dude i really appreciate it! so would this suggest that my idea of wealth isn’t even really millions of dollars and a nice house but rather something more ethereal? i am going to write regardless because i love it but genuinely the other big idea i have that’s for me the “back up” stable option is owning my own cocktail bar. i guess that would fall in line with jupiter in 4th since a bar is a third space. super interesting. usually when i get my chart read people mention writing but in an academic way, something with spirituality, or acting. thanks again!
>>42553508Now that I think of it, I did have a good Saturn Return it's crazy how "under the radar" it can go. Looking back, for some reason it made me waste my youth working for something that never realized, trashed my previous ambitions but gave me instead an awesome comfy and unrelated job (no vocation though), financial stability, met my SO, things were looking up in fact. Things started collapsing elsewhere in my life but they were sturdy in these areas. 7 years later it's acting up again - career crashed, financial instability, family loss, delayed plans, conflicts, and I hope I won't lose my relationship too. It really is just an endless grind with no chill, innit? Whatever you work on just lasts for a little while and you can't even call it a foundation for the next stage cause it will just be taken away and there's barely anything to account for besides a "feeling" of brief accomplishment and relief. And Saturn, at least in my case, doesn't seem to lighten up it just becomes heavier and shifts the external burdens internally. Like I'm younger in some regards but also weirdly more serious and heavy or inwardly focused and withdrawn. I might become a black hole at some point>We can climb to the highest peak and the world will be at our feet.I hope it doesn't mean just diving back into the depths of the ocean again or the mountain crumbling and rising elsewhere just so you don't get bored and have something to climb again. Cause it feels like that is our journey lol. Thank you though for the encouragement anon and it sounds like you are really mastering it, you sound wise and steady, I'm glad you're reaping some good rewards>>42554049I read up on traditional astrology now and I can't tell which one is powerful or better off. Saturn screeching but also dignified, Moon sandwiched and in Capricorn exile but joyful in 3rd, wtf
>>42549940Can I please get some career/financial advise Astrobros?
>>42555667>Aggressive and chaotic You should become a criminal
I'll join in. What have I got going for me, bros? Still trying to figure out what direction I want to take my life.
>>42549940>tfw Lilith in Aquarius
>>42551679Feel free to avoid including the birth info at the top of the image in the future.>Will I be a good writer?Yeah, you can pull it off pretty easily. You come off as pretty deep, intellectual and and introspective. I think people enjoy hearing you talk about how you feel about things, but only if you can balance how you feel about what you've learned/studied with finding the proper opportunities to talk about those feelings. What you talk about is a bit boring, I'm not going to lie - is your area non-fiction? It feels like it is. Either way, your MC in 10th in Leo tells me emphatically yes. I'm assuming your melancholy until ~30 is propelling those moody tendencies. Once you integrate this and find the proper balance between getting the right opportunities to express yourself and escaping into internal security about what you've learned, your ability to turn what inspired you to write into tangible assets should really bloom. Let me tell you though, anon, your ability to get over whatever held you back early in life (IC in 4th in Aquarius - so you had some odd upbringing that made you feel like an outcast or maybe you're a super nerd and have always been reading a lot since you were a kid, which really helped you write well today) is largely hindered by your Saturn Return, based on what this chart says (though we all tend to overplay Saturn Returns in the Astrology world a bit too much to my liking). That means that over these next 1-3 years, you'll be experiencing a bit of hardship (security about what you've learned, like we discussed before - maybe feeling secure enough to take a trip, something like that). Once you do, it looks like wealth generation events are in order. Mercury in the 2nd is good enough as it is, but yours is in Sagittarius. I find this very fitting for a Writer - especially with Pluto there, anon. Even better - this is the 2nd house. That tells me a writer capable of making good money.So I think so, yeah.
>>42554956Against my better judgement, considering the atmosphere in this meta here recently, I have to critique the other reading.First, I have to contend that Fortune and South node conjunction in the 5th is bad. I think a fitting interpretation here is "past lives" have inspired joy, creativity and romance in you (5th house themes) and they work in concert with your natural mode of being - the thing that brings you joy, creativity and romance opportunities. These are conjunct in the 5th house, not the 4th, 8th, or 12th, which would all be a bit troubling in comparison. Instead, being in the 5th, the suggestion here is, based on the chart, that what you're growing from (attributes you possessed previously) and what you're naturally gifted at or inclined to work together to bring you joy/creativity/romance or grant opportunities for entrepreneurship. Are you writing about dreams you have? Is your writing inspired by Dreams you've had before? When I see a South Node conjunct a Fortune, my feeling is your ancestors gave you some kind of skill or benefit. When I see it in Pisces, I think you receive it or activate it through Dreams you have or bouts of sudden inspiration you feel.To suggest that Mercury is "in detriment" when Mercury is the God of Commerce or Merchants (you know, money) and is in the 2nd House is very wrong to me. Not only that, but Jupiter has a serious sextile to Mercury here (Mercury is in Jupiter's Sign by the way), suggesting they work together. Overall, I'm not claiming to be more skilled than anon or whatever. Maybe they're using a different system or maybe they have different priorities. Either way, I'm not saying I can't learn something from them, but I am saying that I don't enjoy their reading and think my differs at a strict binary from theirs. Once I saw that first line, I had to protest here.If I'm wrong and dumb for obvious reasons, I'd love to hear about it. The trouble is I don't think I am.
>>42555667>Saturn in Aries (Falls) alongside Mercury, Mars and Sun, all in the 12th.Oh boy. Sorry, anon, you're not really a "have a career" kind of guy. The guy that answered "crime" is probably right and I think you know that. I think you're already doing that. I also don't think you need us to suggest that.>Okay, but what about an actual careerAnon, your whole fucking chart is in the 12th House. Yes, Leo is in its domicile and Sun is exalted here, but Saturn falls here and conjuncts your Mercury, taking it with it essentially. Do you like combat sports or something like that? You need to go and bash your head against something for about another year here, I'd say. Possibly then your life won't be pure turmoil, but you need to have some outlet and it needs to involve smashing something liberally and you probably don't want a do the same thing every day kind of job either.
>>42556436>what direction I want to take my lifeYou'll be taking your life in the direction of Sagittarius: so optimism, joy, learning, futurism, travel, etc. You have Pluto here, suggesting it can be pretty transformative for you.>okay, but what the fuck does that mean?The big thing you're learning to overcome is some focus on how you act with a loved one or what caused you to enter some contract or bond with a specific person and the maturity with which you present yourself. In other words, there's some relationship that you have which is hindered by the way you handle yourself and it's largely an issue of you coming off too mature or being too stubborn or aligned to certain details - too willing to blow up plans you've made with someone, probably. It's something natural to you and it's like you've done this before or learned it from when you were younger (so parent probably). Are you fantasizing about something weird? Venus in 12th always screams weird fetish to me. It's conjunct Mercury here too, which makes me feel like fetish just became obsession. Unfortunately, Jupiter is also in this 12th house (though a different sign) and it's right next to Uranus. I'm going to guess whatever this secret tendency you have is the source of issues with whatever this relationship trouble you're experiencing is. Frankly, there's a relationship between those two things and what you tend to spend a lot of time ruminating on (and believe me, you spend a lot of time ruminating). Is this a long-distance relationship where she's like, "you're kinda old, I dunno"? That's what it feels like. You're not sure if going to meet her is the right move for some reason, I think. I also think you're keeping her (or him I guess) a secret or aren't sure what people will think about her/him. This is an increasingly big issue for you as you get through this year, it feels like.
>>42554293Someone is giving you fucking fits, anon. It's sapping your ability to relax and enjoy life. Start cutting people out of your life and I think you'll find that you're suddenly able to breathe. Are you apart of some international club, possibly a certain religion that's jeopardizing your internal world? I think there's some relationship in your life that's really making things hard on you and it's showing up from multiple angles.This is where I stopped when I realized how old you are. You have to be 18 years old to post here. Please recognize that you're hanging out with adults. Adults do stupid, crazy and insane shit, anon. be advised if you're not smart, people will do dumb and retarded shit to you like trying to dox your chart. Even with this information, someone can find out a lot more about you.I don't want to spook or upset you here. I only intend to help you out so you can avoid some weirdo stalking you or harassing you. You don't deserve that. Go outside or some shit. Talk to other kids your age. All the adults here are typically some kind of retarded and will drag you down to their level.I think you should travel when you're old enough. You seem like the kind of person that needs to get away from whatever social situation you're in. Go see the world when you're able and can afford it. It'll do you good. Then you can realize everyone isn't fucking crazy like the people you're around right now.
>>42549940am I dead
>>42557151>Extreme self-image issues leading to some kind of *ia pathology>Disparaged family name>Scary double lifedouble oof
>>42557176>some kind of *ia pathologyI dont know what that isalso, none of that stuff really hits. how do you reckon it?
What does it mean to have venus in the 1st house?
>>42557192Part of Astrology reads are creative leaps of good writers combined with intuition of chart archetypes working together. Reads aren't always great or reliable because this there's several variables going back and forth: my read of your chart, your read of my read and our ability to understand each other's use of metaphors. If we don't aligned ideas, it's hard to understand each other. In reality, a lot of Astrology reads are someone entertaining themselves. You'll find in this meta there's an Astrology meta and it, frankly, doesn't comport to more serious Astrology. In fact, Astrology is one of those things where everyone has their own flair to it, several big traditions practice it and give it their own flavors and different people focus on different characteristics of the chart.I'd rather have a little fun and take some creative leaps and come up with funny depictions on a chart like this. "Am I dead" isn't as serious as "What career should I consider?" or another more serious prompt. If someone asks, somewhat unseriously, "am I dead" I'm probably going to have a little fun taking a creative leap on some part of their aspect matrix. Here, I played with your oppositions: Pluto opposing MC feels like a funny double life. When your Sun goes down (MC at top of Chart - think Sun's daily wheel), your double life, Pluto-Hades, comes out. Next, I had Uranus opposing Chiron giving me a someone ruined my life before I was born kind of situation, so your family name being tarnished before you were born feels fitting here. Trying to rectify it feels like Libra; some brash mismanagement feels like Aries. Finally, I think Luna in 12th is supremely introspective and I imagine looking into a mirror seeing Lilith in this dynamic. Here, the sign takes a bit of a back seat for me, where Luna opposes Venus. I think you spend a lot of time, perhaps daily (6th opposing 12th feels very obsession-related), ruminating on how this plays out in how you see yourself.
>>42557319You're probably attractive. It's more likely if it's in Leo or Virgo or Libra though - maybe Pisces. Is it alone in the 1st? What aspects it? These are crucial to have a better understanding. Ultimately, it's beneficial. 1st is how people see you (particularly at first) and Venus is the Goddess of Beauty or Love or Passion.
I asked this question a month ago and got a pretty good answer by anon, but the dates got shifted ahead a couple months, so I'll have to ask again.>mentally insane ex gf accused me of [crime's] in 2023-24>plead guilty to judge in April>awaiting (now new) sentencing date on Oct 26.>pic related October transit date on my natal chartAll parties involved i.e. lawyer, PO officer, etc. have made it clear that any jail time is off the table since there are alot of mitigating factors on my end regarding what I did to her and what I've been doing since.I just want to ask what should I expect or anticipate come this date later this year? What's the vibe for me?Also not necessary but, on a side note, could I get any quick insight on my depessive episode that I recently started going through?I'm more than willing to share my plain natal chart or even crazy ex's chart if it will help with anything.
>>42557374Why not try /div/? Sould be able to get good info from a couple tarot readings, astrology is more difficult to get right than scrying or a tarot spread.
>>42557425>scrying is easier than AstrologyUh are you serious right now? Is your scrying helplessly general to the point of being not remotely helpful? Are you people doing some easy ass scrying that I'm not aware of? Are you only doing mundane shit with it? Astrology is far, far easier than any intuitive practice I've played with so far. Maybe it's because it involves more writing and less drugs or other weird shit, but Astrology feels like child's play compared to the more real stuff.Of course, if we're just talking wiccathots playing with their funnycards, I'm both on board with your suggestion and amused (not that I dislike Tarot, just the atmosphere and usual suspects). Tarot is more fitting for anon's situation. Scrying? Uh... what kind?
>>42557425I've never really had too much experience with that general. Also, >>42557449 is not me lol.Are people there still open to giving quick readings like on /astro/?
>>42557449I've found scrying came easy to me, along with tarot readings. Astrology is a bit more difficult due to its complexity and vast wealth of ancient systems for doing many different things with it. Tarot scrying divination is so freeform with almost no rules so long as you arrive at your intended destination, the truth to the querent's question, that it's child's play in comparison. With the scrying I do any number of more nusmced details can arise to help better inform the query and make the answer more clear, too drained of late to be doing any divination though.
>>42557465>I've never really had too much experience with that general.It's pretty simple, just wait on the thread for somebody offering to do free readings and ask your question, should keep your question somewhat brief though. If you can't wait for a reader doing free readings, just start your post with Air query: or (AQ) then state your question. I'd give you a tarot reading had I the energy to spare. Just looking at your transit though it doesn't look so bad. Sag on the ascendant seems decent for the date, jupiter in the 9th house, Saturn aspecting your sun in the 4th though. So it might suck some, but seems fair. Hopefully.
>>42557490thank you for the heads up anon. I'll give it a try there at least
>>42557628No worries, good luck.
>>42556184>>42556992I'm actually not a criminal, I'm a law abiding and moral person. I've thought about joining the military/police, but I don't want anything to do with ZOG. Any ideas for what I can do that is legal and not part of the government? I'm currently working a sales job, but it's not going well. So I'm looking for a different path to take.>>42556992I do like hockey and love conflict, military strategy, political conflict, etc.>You need to go and bash your head against something for about another year here, I'd say. Possibly then your life won't be pure turmoil, but you need to have some outlet and it needs to involve smashing something liberallyWhy? What do you suggest?
>>42554956yeah np anonThe lot of fortune is quite literally where you can expect your income to be, where your fortune in life will be found, where it comes from. The traditional reading would be that you'll find financial support from developing your creative talents. And that will be the case. You will make money from writing, if you choose to do so. You will be fortunate in anything creative you set out to do in this life. But the South Node represents the literal asshole of your soul, it is the tail end of the draconis, where excrement comes from, where you release toxins and purge what is unnecessary from your life. So the saying goes "don't shit where you eat", and that applies here. You don't shit where you eat. So, these two being conjunct in the 5th indicates you are doing precisely this whenever you try to turn your creative gifts into financial benefits. You must decide which one you want them to be. You can manifest your fortune in this house as creative talent and go far with it, but then it probably will not bring you must financial return - or, you can try to tap into it as a means of developing your financial wealth and you will be successful at that, but at the cost of being a rather shallow and uncreative artist, a sell out.That is the choice you are faced with here, and my answer to your question regarding your fate as a writer. You must decide what it is you want to let go of here, in order to have what you want. You must sacrifice something to gain the fortune that awaits you. It has conditions attached to it. The condition is that you must cleanse yourself of any false motivations or uncertainty. Look to your North Node, where the mouth of the dragon is, in the 11th, what it hungers and thirsts for, and you will see what you really should be focusing on in order to manifest your fortune. Develop your alliances, your friendships, reach out and join associations, go to conventions. That is how you will become a successful writer my friend.
>>42555477This world wasn't designed to be easy or stable. The planets keep circling, malefic and benefic planets hit our charts then move on. Like Saturn is in Aries right now which is makes squares to our natal Capricorn placements so it's similar to a Saturn return. For me, it's that my job is kind of good actually but I still want to work on something so that I can have an actual career. Since mine's in my 1st house I'm eating better and have started working out because my health was going south.Not all of it is Saturn, Pluto was in Capricorn for awhile. During that my family lost our childhood home, pets died early, mom went to a nursing home, etc. You're having a Mars return and that's in your 7th house of relationships so that's at least tension and probably fighting but since you're aware of this transit now, you can try to minimize itBut we can take the knowledge learned from previous troubles and use them to solve our current ones. This is very Capricornian but I plan for the worst and have back up plans
>>42553825Well the internet is full of shit so look deeper than that. Idk your specific relationship issues but with Uranus and Neptune in 7th, I'd guess that you have to be more grounded when it comes to relationships. Neptune is prone to making you overly idealistic or even delusional about the realities of a situation. Then Uranus is all about impulsiveness, independence or stubbornness that can go to extremes. So be self aware if you're doing these things so you can make course corrections
Capricorn is cardinal earth, feminine, and ruled by Saturn. All cardinal signs act as the "goads" of the chart, the pivots, they "goad" things into activity. They are the first ones to take the initiative and do something rather than sit around and wait or procrastinate. So combine that "get it done" and "just do it" attitude with a sign that is also pragmatic, grounded, earthy, focused on material reality, things you can physically experience and appreciate via the senses. They are the ones who do not procrastinate or put off responsibilities. Ruled by Saturn, a greater malefic planet that sets boundaries, limitations, and says "no" to things in general. Capricorn shows self-discipline, restraint, and the ability to do what must be done when others lack the motivation to do it. They do the dirty, tough jobs nobody else wants to do. And for that, they are absolutely essential to the well being of society. If nobody did the things nobody wants to do, we'd all be dead probably. We never would have made it beyond the paleolithic period or survived the ice age, when life was grim and short and brutal and you had to work hard every day for every little thing. Finally, they are not a dominant masculine sign, they are a feminine, submissive sign. I dare to use the terms "alpha" and "beta" here, but I don't mean this at all in a negative or dick measuring contest sort of way. We need alphas, but we need betas even more really. We can't have too many alphas or it destabilizes everything. It's best when there's mostly betas, betas are the ones who stablize society and maintain the safety of the status quo so we can organize and get shit done. Capricorn and Cancer are the two cardinal betas, the ones who are the most active at attending to the needs of others, making sure to be PROACTIVE in their approach to dealing with problems before they become problems. Being cardinal, they take the initiative in thes matters, Cancer with feelings, Capricorn with material needs.
>>42558014Also, I would like to share my entire framework with this thread. I combine the meanings of the planets with the meanings of the 10 sephiroth on the tree of life in hermetic qabalah, but I have my own placements of them that slightly differs from the placements given by Aleister Crowley. I have marked my changes with asterisks for ease of reference later.Kether = Neptune*Chokmah = UranusBinah = Saturn*Daath = Pluto**Chesed = JupiterGeburah = MarsTiphareth = SunNetzach = VenusHod = MercuryYesod = MoonMalkuth = Primum Mobile* (lit. "Primal Movements", i.e., the 4 Elements of Fire, Earth, Air, and Water.)*I have moved Neptune from where Crowley assigns it along with Saturn to the Sephiroth "Binah", to my own assignment at "Kether". I won't go into the rationale Crowley uses for his assignment of it to Binah, but suffice it to say, I understand his reasoning and think it makes good sense, and if you agree with it, his placement of Neptune at Binah does not really cause any contention with my placement of it at Neptune, operationally speaking. It is purely an aesthetic choice at the end of the day really, at this level of abstraction we are working with, the nuance is overwhelmed by the reality that, placing Neptune anywhere among the Supernals is really "close enough" as far as it truly matters. Let us not lose perspective here. I think Crowley himself would agree. Let the chips fall as they may, as it were. Placing it in Kether reflects it's significance as representing the very boundary of what Jung calls the "collective unconscious" itself. It is the limit of the very collective unconscious, but not it's beginning, it's end. It is the farthest limit of it, the farthest limit of fantasy. Hence Neptune's deep associations with mystical boundlessness and fantasy, but also losing your mind or becoming lost in the fog, or drowning in the ocean of noise it represents, if you are not prepared to experience that kind of sublime infinity.
>>42558057As for Pluto, I assign this to Daath because Crowley himself conceived of another planet beyond Neptune that held the significations of The Abyss, Daath. So it is very likely that Crowley would have assigned Pluto to Daath eventually. Furthermore, consider the historical irony that Daath is a "fallen sephiroth", and Pluto is a "fallen planet" in that, it was demoted from being a full planet originally, to a mere dwarf planet. This is almost too tempting to call it a mere coincidence in my opinion. Again, I think Crowley would agree with this, and I am basing my judgment largely on these placements being congruent with what he might approve of, and what would fit in with the rest of traditional hermetic qabalah. The Abyss, of course, being not synonymous with the collective unconscious entirely, but merely with that region of it that we find the most disturbing and the most disruptive, which is to say, the region of the collective unconscious that reaches beyond the boundaries of the conscious ego and demands we experience what is called "ego-death", either by literal physical death, or through some kind of temporary disruption to the ordinary ego-state that is indistinguishable from the death process, and results in a state of ego-death at some point. It is only through that state that we can actually appreciate the full scope of the abject horror The Abyss presents to us, and what really motivates all of us from the real root of our bones. And not just us, but indeed, all life that ever crawled up out of the ocean. Literally life itself, becomes the CURRENCY of death, Pluto's currency. Souls. Life force. Hence, I also place his joy in the 2nd house, the Gate of Hades. Because he is the ultimate rent-seeking tax collector of existence. The slow crawl of entropy, in which the value of everything is measured and wealthy is defined against that loss, that lacking. Life itself, your time, the most precious currency of all, the "gold standard" of existence...
>>42558072I might as well go through all of the Sephiroth and the planets.>Malkuth = The Primum Mobile (4 Primal Elements, Fire, Earth, Air, Water)This is Jung's four psychological functions, the intuition, sensation, thinking, and feeling functions. This is the realm of the personality, the lower ego that we project into the world as a construct that we often mistake for our true selves. It includes our body, our thoughts and labels, our values and boundaries, and even our presence and awareness. All of that is part of Malkuth in one way or another and everything above Malkuth must manifest through those four universal categories.>Yesod = The Moon, the Soma, the Mother, the Instinctual World.This is everything that compels and commands us through our bodies and from the influences and forces of the environment, as well as through our personal unconscious, and our dreams. It is the lower self, but not just the self-image manifested in Malkuth, but the lower self manifested above it as well, in Yesod, which is the unconscious self-image, the shadow. This is the "final boss" we must someday face inside before we are even ready to begin the journey to the realms above Yesod. This is merely the first step, accepting the shadow and making a pact with it somehow, in order to integrate it. This is the "devil's bargain" we must face and accept, where we always get the harsh end of the deal, but it's either that or face the alternative and give up right at the start.
>>42558076>Hod = Mercury, the Intellect, the Helmsman, the Messenger.Mercury represents the entry point of the soul into the Symbolic Register, in a Lacanian sense. It is the storehouse of all our collective knowledge compressed into language and stored in books and databases of every kind throughout history. It is both generational and immediate knowledge, personal knowledge and traditional knowledge. Anything that could be considered in the realm of the matheme "S2" that Lacan was fond of using. Mercury also represents his later articulation of the Capitalist Discourse, as Mercury is the lord of commerce but also cunning.>Netzach = Venus, the Harmonizer, the Pleasure Principle.Venus seeks reconciliation between opposing sides, harmony, equilibrium, peaceful exchange, beauty, sexuality, sensuality, love, relaxation, fun, art, and generally everything we would consider "nice" and "good". It gives us an appreciation for all of the "good things" in life, and defines what those are for us.>Tiphareth = Sun, Perception, Presence, The Father, Higher authority.This is where one is the most conscious, literally, where one spends most of their attention focused on and thus nearly impossible to catch off guard. It becomes the area in which a person naturally is the most active and has the most presence because they are more aware of it than anything else in life. People tend to become higher authorities in these areas for this same reason, or aspire to it in their hearts, even if they never actually achieve it. This is where people are comfortable leading and playing the role of the Father in a situation, thus one might say this is actually their "true self" in a sense, because it is actually the Logos guiding them toward their true calling and purpose in life, which hopefully one day they realize and accept.
>>42558079>Geburah = Mars, Severance, Conflict, Aggression, and Strength.This is the warrior in us, the part that must get angry and find inner strength somehow in order to stand up and do what must be done. It is the part that gives us the passion we need to even go on the offensive and attempt to root out injustice and inequality and corruption before it spreads and prevent suffering proactively. It is the courage to get mad when others are terrified of being punished for it, and taking risks in order to achieve salvation when nobody else is willing to channel it into rebellion. Of course, it can just as easily be taken too far and become abusive or even psychotic, but this is the necessary cost of having a loaded weapon or a sharp sword at your side. If you do not handle it carefully, it can harm or kill you or someone else indiscriminately, and you or someone, or everyone even, may have to pay the price for that somehow, if they even can.>Chesed = Jupiter, Affirmation, Hope, Justice, and Philosophy.Jupiter is the presence of good vibes and reinforcement. It is the energy in the situation that is helping you, affirming you, confirming you, and urging you to keep going and reminding you that there's always a way somehow, to never give up no matter what. It assures you that everything happening in the cosmos is actually fair somehow, even when it doesn't make sense, we must be stoic and have faith, and encourages everyone to hold fast, always believe in a good and just universe, so that we never find we have an excuse to become disingenuous and selfish. He encourages reciprocal altruism, and rational utilitarianism. But also the pursuit of higher education, religious understanding, and foreign experiences to broaden one's basis for having wisdom about life in general. This is why he is also often associated with internationalism.
>>42558084Daath = Pluto, the Fallen Sephiroth, the Abyss, the Demoted Planet.Pluto fits perfectly here as the gateway to the Qlipphoth, and also as the bridge across the Abyss one must cross to reach the Supernal World above. It represents ego death and total sublimation into the collective unconscious, which has the effect of sending a person into a state of complete psychosis that will turn them into a dysfunctional schizophrenic if they cannot handle it and are not prepared for it somehow. This is why in ancient practice when the shaman underwent the ritual for awakening it was essential to fast and prepare for weeks ahead of time and undergo cleansing rituals and very elaborate stages held under auspicious times and astrological conjunctions were all critical elements of the extremely complex process. You cannot just smoke some ahyahuasca and then vomit and have a wild trip and come back with some fresh new insight thinking you are fundamentally a different person, it doesn't work that way. True immersion into the Abyss would have irrevocable consequences that you don't come back from, i.e., there would be no coming back from such a "trip". It is a one way trip you don't return from precisely unless you have literally undergone ego death and experienced what it is like to literally die and have a near death or out of body experience. That is what it takes from this point on, no more and no less. But it is a mighty requirement indeed compared to all the other stages so far, which were far less severe in their requirement to make contact and establish a conscious pathway with. But this is what one must prove they are ready for, or else, they can never reach the realms above. They can climb higher than most mortals in history, but only here and no farther. There is no shame in it, it is still a monumental peak to reach, but it is not truly the end, and that is what one must eventually accept if they turn back now.
>>42558085>Binah = Saturn, The Architect, the Denier, the Negation, Primal Fear.Saturn is the darkest part of us. It is the part that is afraid of everything, all the time, without exception, even itself. There is nothing that is not touched by fear, the restraint that comes with it, and the eventual decay of trust into paranoia and then betrayal, lies, and possibly suicide. Anything to control the fear, to get rid of it, to deny it. Saturn is the great denier who says "no" to everything, the opposite of Jupiter, who affirms and says "yes". Saturn is the presence of bad energy, bad vibes, that feel cold and isolating, not hostile like Mars, but manipulative and indifferent, treasonous, machiavellian. Saturn doesn't care about the altruistic well-being of others because he's too busy tending to himself and his own. Driven by fear, everything is protective, setting boundaries, exactly the opposite of Mars as well. Where Mars is aggressive, Saturn retreats and builds a castle or a wall at least. Saturn plays the defensive strategy instead, trying to block out potential threats and miss nothing, always have a back up plan, a contingency, and to be exact, thorough, perfectionist even, because of the anxiety and the obsessiveness of avoiding danger.
>>42558086>Chokmah = Uranus, the Inventor, the Originator, the Usurper, the Archetypes.Uranus represents the archetypes, the platonic, objective reality that mathematicians and physicists strive to define with numbers and theoretical science, which is of course the same archetypal reality that sorcerers strive to define with symbols and theoretical rituals. It is the true source of all power, because it is the source of the archetypes, which are themselves beyond categorization into reductive concepts. That is to say, they are transcendental intuitions of the highest order, similar to our primary intuitions of space and time. They can only be grasped by extremely articulate minds, natural genius, or the truly mad but inspired, who can somehow grasp the unfathomable in their poetic fever dreams and translate it into works of art that transform the way others perceive and define art itself. Being now of the Supernal realm beyond the Abyss, anyone touched by this level of insight and energy is almost certainly likely to fall into psychotic or neurotic behaviors rather than anything constructive or positive or beneficial, it being almost certainly the case in every ordinary case we might expect, that people simply do not operate at this level of conscious awareness very often, if ever, and are therefore not likely to have a way to integrate it into their ordinary lives. It therefore tends to, in most cases, be a purely malefic and disruptive force that causes calamity and discord in people's lives because it compels them to act in ways that bring about events that have such qualities to them.
>>42558088>Kether = Neptune, the Primordial Sea, The Origin of Life, The Collective Unconscious.Neptune represents the final boundary of the psyche itself, the collective unconscious, where boundaries themselves no longer exist or have any meaning anymore, because everything simply dissolves back into the primordial state from which it emerged originally, back into what Deleuze and Guattari call the "Body Without Organs", and what Lacan calls "The Real", and what Jung calls "The Collective Unconscious". These are all, ultimately, pointing at the same thing. Even from a more cosmological perspective, then Neptune represents the very fabric of spacetime itself expanding and accelerating toward a future where all the energy in the cosmos eventually falls into black holes that will evaporate and result in a grand conformal re-scaling of the entire universe, since all the energy in the universe at that moment will simply be equivalent to a singularity, which is the same initial state that our universe began in, and how qabalists describe Kether, as a "point", the primal point, and the ladder of life.Life (Kether)Domain (Chokmah)Kingdom (Binah)Phylum (Chesed)Class (Geburah)Order (Tiphareth)Family (Hod)Genus (Netzach)Species (Yesod)Specimin (Malkuth)
>>42558104>Family (Hod)>Genus (Netzach)aaaaaaa, sorry not to be autistic but this is killing me, I'm sorry I meant to reverse this but I was in a rush and didn't check itthis should be (obviously)Family (Netzach)Genus (Hod)again, my b, hope everyone is being patient with me schizo ranting about my dumb personal framework, but I thought maybe it might inspire some of you who are still learning stuff or were curious how other idiots like me interpret it and apply it. I will let everyone get back to posting and reading charts and stuff, might even read a few myself
>>42558014I never understood why Capricorn is a feminine sign, or how you call it beta. I'd put it on Taurus based on its characteristics to be more passive and still, but Capricorn is too "active" and forthgoing and initiating to be feminine. Sure they might not be engulfing the spotlight but that's not a measure is it
>>42558823NTA, but I don't find the male/female dichotomy of the signs very useful for informing how a person will be. Someone could have Saturn conjunct their sun and they'd be a bit of a push over, albeit for understandable reasons.
>>42558072>Literally life itself, becomes the CURRENCY of death, Pluto's currency. Souls. Life force. Hence, I also place his joy in the 2nd house, the Gate of Hades. Because he is the ultimate rent-seeking tax collector of existence. The slow crawl of entropy, in which the value of everything is measured and wealthy is defined against that loss, that lacking. Life itself, your time, the most precious currency of all, the "gold standard" of existence...Interesting ideas. Any thoughts on why it would not have its joy in the 8H according to the house meaning (and not that some appoint the house to Scorpio)I always wondered how modern astrologers would map the outer planets in accordance to the ancient dignities, joys, etc.
>>42558085>You cannot just smoke some ahyahuasca and then vomit and have a wild trip and come back with some fresh new insight thinking you are fundamentally a different person, it doesn't work that way. True immersion into the Abyss would have irrevocable consequences that you don't come back from, i.e., there would be no coming back from such a "trip".What if you do though? Let's say you hypothetically do an Ayahuasca session but unfortunately haven't prepared physically for this (though mentally and emotionally you have contemplated and fasted, to say in a way). It is not an intense session as you imagine but something deep and buried does change in you. You see something, you touch something, but you don't die. On some days, you have mental thoughts or revelations or shifts in emotional perspectives that are more drastic than what you experienced in a shamanic session. Does that mean that you were unworthy, you did not prep well or you were refused by Pluto who nonetheless operates in your daily life/subconscious through small ego deaths anyway?
>>42558823In astrology, Capricorn is classified as a feminine (yin) sign due to its receptive, Earth-element nature. While the sign is often associated with stoic ambition and leadership, its feminine energy manifests through quiet resilience, patience, and a strong drive to build lasting security and stability.Quiet Resilience: Rather than demanding the spotlight, this feminine energy is expressed through deep patience, endurance, and the ability to weather harsh conditions.Pragmatic Nurturing: Capricorn provides for others by establishing solid, tangible foundations and offering grounded advice rather than just emotional comfort (Cancer)
>>42558823Masculine and feminine in astrology are ideal archetypes that are hard to sum up but can be described as "working against circumstances" (masculine) or "within circumstances" (feminine). This is why for example Aries heavy charts tend to produce confrontational individuals who are constantly ramming against their environment, whereas Capricorn is more conservative, practical, and likely to work within the system (or reject and abandon it for being flawed, rather than attempting to destroy and manually replace it with a new one as Aries would).Trying to present signs as masculine or feminine in a human way is misguided.>>42558833>Someone could have Saturn conjunct their sun and they'd be a bit of a push over, albeit for understandable reasons.There are plenty of counterexamples to this, like the fascist Starace or Lucky Luciano. Influences are archetypal, they can't be read in such a way. Coldness can turn someone into an anaemic presence, or into a viper. (No value judgement made on one being better or worse than the other btw.)
>>42549940yall seem like a really good couple, all the energies mesh quite nicely. am an amateur astrologer (but i mean i have went really deep down the rabbit hole) and just looking at the stuff i can tell youre a really cute couple and are really good for each other.
I'm built to farm Capricorn seethe, I'm a threat to the entire matrix.
>>42557107>This is where I stopped when I realized how old you are. You have to be 18 years old to post here. Please recognize that you're hanging out with adults. Adults do stupid, crazy and insane shit, anon. be advised if you're not smart, people will do dumb and retarded shit to you like trying to dox your chart. Even with this information, someone can find out a lot more about you.Brother I am above 18. By a few months but above.
>>42557107But also thanks for the warning. I already knew that people can get doxxed with astrological charts but at least I imagined that between all the people doing it everything would be alright, mostly.
>>42550524>I'm an NPC but I need to prove to everyone else that I'm not really an NPC - The ChartThe Scorpio Rising/Pluto is trying to hard to look deeper than it actually is. This is literally an NPC wearing a cool edgy mask to try and fit in where it doesn't belong. No wonder people are pissed off at you all the time you're basically mocking them with your behavior. It's like when a boomer tries to be all hip and trendy with the younger generation only to unleash nuclear levels of cringe and hate upon them, then cry when they can't understand where they went wrong. It's not that you're doing it on purpose, it's that you're doing it because you don't know any better, it's simply in your nature. Your literal life purpose is to be a larper that only exists to trigger people.
>>42554221anything astro bros finances need a boost.
>>42551726>>42559308>>42559091Usual suspects have entered the thread, abort all sane discussion
Can someone read my chart please? How do i use my rising sign and leo stellium?
>>42559739Also my love life and which signs should i seek?
>>42558834I treat the signs and houses as completely different layers of meaning and signification which have their own internal logic and they simply overlap. Domicile rulerships apply to the signs of the zodiac, but not to the 12 houses. The 12 houses use a different set of assignments called "joys". The meanings of the 12 houses are derived from this scheme, getting their meanings from the planets that have their joy there. But the signs of the zodiac get their meanings completely differently. Those receive their meaning from their planetary ruler (domicile ruler), their triplicity (modality), their quadruplicity (element), their gender (masculine or feminine), and whether they are an animal, human, or something else.In the traditional assignments, Pluto has no Joy, and it does not have a domicile. Mars is the traditional ruler of Scorpio, not Pluto, and I still go with that. I do not assign Scorpio to Pluto, or Aquarius to Uranus, or Pisces to Neptune. I don't consider the outer planets beyond Saturn to be that fixed in their nature, they are more primordial and do not primarily identify with one sign over another.
>>42557872>I've thought about joining the military/police, but I don't want anything to do with ZOGI'll be honest with you, anon, my other suggestion was some kind of Security. Something tells me that you'd become a criminal if you were a cop - at least a dirty cop (no offense or anything; I hope you understand we're just reading your chart here). I don't know what kind of "Security" you'd be good at - that might be up to you. But I think you'd work in this realm because of your ability to think like a criminal.>MilitaryI'm not sure who else would be capable of properly honing whatever it is you're trying to do (ultimately your chart aims towards finding Order, structure and persistence). Keep in mind the other bulk of your chart is in Aquarius. Either you're quite literally head butting everything or you're getting exiled from something. I worry if you join the Military, you'll get discharged. It might be really very good for you though. When your chart isn't howling in the 12th, it's firmly in the 11th. The people you surround yourself with seem to offer you a bit of reprieve from the rest of your chart - which seems to be causing the problems you're inevitably experiencing. Perhaps something like Military service, religious community or a cult is your way out of this. Don't get me wrong, the wrong application here could really go sideways and quickly, but I'm not sure what other kind of relief this chart could get.
>>42557872>I do like hockey and love conflict, military strategy, political conflict, etc.Ah, okay then. I think Security for money, Military for career/maturity and then a combat sport to occupy your dramatically chaotic and aggressive tendencies.>Why?I'm not sure why I didn't read the rest of your post the first time and took up two posts for this in hindsight. My bad.Basically, your Saturn Return is happening soon or now (I'm not going to bother with those finer details). Yours is in Aries and thus is immensely brutal. I don't think I need to tell you that you've been feeling like the floor is falling out from underneath you. I think that's one of the things that compelled you to come here and ask this question. At any rate, I suggest the above. This trifecta will help you hone your tendencies properly. I know this isn't normally the place, but can I offer you additional and adjacent advice, anon? Someone like you can clearly benefit from learning about Pranayama. Can I suggest you go and study this a bit? Aries will never stop shouting demands in your year (usually like "DO IT NOW!"), but one avenue of clear relief could be meditation for you. If you don't do this, I'm not insisting your life will be perilous. I am suggesting it could be dramatically improved if you do consider it, however.
>>42558057Whew. What a damn load off. You know, I haven't been doing this for very long here, but it's relieving as shit to come across someone actually doing something worth admiring, something worth praising. I was beginning to assume most of the people giving readings were just LARPing and samefagging their own readings (for entirely absurd reasonings I was working on explaining internally) after having a few interactions that left me wondering what fucking system of Astrology they were using, why it so dramatically contends with what I've (recently) learned and why they keep saying confusing shit I can't properly analyze to learn in the way that satisfies me. Here you come along and actually synthesize not just something intuitive, grounded and inspired, but actually functional and interesting. Can we have more posters like this please? I'd like to learn among people worth respecting - people who have ideas I can feel relieved to be humbled by. Sure, no one's here for me and no one owes me anything and that's not my point here, but I do feel relieved by this post and also humbled. Thanks, anon.
>>42559739Get a job.
>>42558086>Saturn, BinahAlright, I need to jump in here. I really, really dislike, despite my vehement praise, this post. I really don't like it. I think you're courting all of Saturn's negative energy here. Did something happen, anon? Is it offensive and brash to say I think I know how old you are (even though I hope not - it'd be a huge blow to my ego if you were younger than me)?Can I help you revisit Saturn, anon? I think you have the wrong idea entirely. This post indicates Saturn = Bad not just in your system, but you.I'd like to help you fix this.Saturn should really be Malkuth or Binah - it has to be. Either Saturn is the Architect (see Ptah-Saklas) acting as a wellspring of Wisdom (Binah) which we only access through his trials or he's foundationally responsible for all of the Matter we use, see or interact with. He's the reason we have straight lines, boxes, angles. Without Saturn, there are no roads, no infrastructure, no foundations. Malkuth is the material world, where we dwell in these vessels. These vessels, anon, belong to Saturn, not us. This isn't our realm, our space, this is solely Saturn's. Malkuth, anon, is Samsara. When Saturn synthesizes Shiva, we get Moksha. See, Saturn is the overseer of Samsara and as such is responsible for "harvesting" those ready for Moksha. Does that make sense?To think someone like you could still, after having learned these things, antagonize Saturn, of all people/deities, feels very confusing to me.>>42558288Anon, this is way better than finding out the OP of these meta threads has been doxing people. I think the bar's pretty low. I wouldn't worry. Your posts aren't just very intriguing, they're stimulating in ways that few other people have recently been capable of. If someone gets annoyed with you, calls you names or anything else, please call them gamer words. Posts like yours are rare these days and anons need to offer more praise for someone like you when you show up.
>>42558014>>42558823>>42558875We need to separate human genders and non-physical natures here. That's the issue we're having. A more plastic mindset is required for this kind of philosophizing. No, Capricorn doesn't act like women and women don't act like Capricorn necessarily. Dionysus isn't a woman, right? But the energy is "Feminine" in that it contrasts the Apollonian energy. Dionysus doesn't want Order, he wants Chaos. He doesn't care about Pride, Glory or Empires, he cares about Hedonisms, Passions or "Orgies". The latter here is "Feminine" and the former "Masculine, but they're both men, right? Notice how Dionysus was always depicted with feminine features but he was still a man?We're not talking about trannies, we're talking in poetic frames that don't describe physical traits. So Capricorn isn't a woman, but feminine (on a non-physical level).>>42559091Oh, look, it's that guy that doxed everyone, guys.
>>42559739>How do I use my leo stelliumI don't think you need help, actually.>>42561013 just told a Saturn in 6th chart to "get a job." This isn't a serious post.>3rd house and 9th house oppositionsStop talking about weird shit, anon. To be slightly more serious, the real issue this opposition has is learning to balance your higher aspirations with what's going on around you immediately - namely what you're currently thinking or talking about.In the end, your chart doesn't give half a fuck about these oppositions. Saturn in Taurus in the 6th sextile your Sun in Leo in 10th basically means you're an absolute powerhouse that's going to do some shit every day that makes you have a meaningful career or reputation. You're almost certainly some kind of performer that relentlessly labors daily to get where you're going. Don't get me wrong, Saturn also limits these higher aspirations of yours, but probably when your Saturn Return comes, you unlock some kind of obvious ability to perform. Your Sun is also conjunct your MC, which is a serious boost.>>42559543It really shouldn't be a coincidence that once we get an intensely cerebral post, this guy shows up and pretends none of us will notice him after the disaster he caused for over an entire week, doxing multiple people and upsetting the entire meta.
>>42560949>>42560963Thank you for the reading. I've worked security before, but it was pretty boring. I never even got to kick anyone out of the place or fight anyone. I might try working for a more interesting security organization like Gavin de Becker and Associates which does VIP protection or becoming a private investigator.I find what you have said to be very accurate. This period of my life has been particularly difficult and chaotic, although it's far from the worst period I've faced in life. But I'm not going to join the military, despite having always been attracted to it. You're also right that "The people you surround yourself with seem to offer you a bit of reprieve from the rest of your chart", because I'm part of a secret society that has really helped me through some difficult situations past and present. A girl told me once that I "seem like the kind of a guy who'd join a cult a take it over". I think she meant that as a insult, but I took it as a compliment. I'll try meditation and playing hockey more and think about what to do next. Blessings upon you.
>>42549940Most common sign in my chart is cancer (mercury, venus and saturn)I kind of hate all the "cancer-like" parts of myself and tend to resent others with cancer traits. Is it typical to resent your most prominent sign?
>>42561198>I've worked security before, but it was pretty boring. I never even got to kick anyone out of the place or fight anyone.Not only am I not surprised, your chart is exactly the kind of chart I'd expect to hear something like this from. This is what I'm talking about - you don't think normal things. You go and get a job so you can be aggressive with people, all entirely on purpose. You didn't just plan to do it, you got disappointed when it didn't happen to you. Does that add up?Again, I think you need a combat sport in your free time to satiate this be aggressive tendency (it'll also help you learn that most situations do not require that kind of escalation, which should be cathartic to you) and something like Security (be more creative, dude) can help you with money.>I might try working for a more interesting security organization like Gavin de Becker and Associates which does VIP protection or becoming a private investigator.See? Now you're getting it.>A girl told me once that I "seem like the kind of a guy who'd join a cult a take it over".So now you get why I said things could quickly go sideways for you if you joined a cult or the military.>to me that's a complimentAgain, not surprised at all. You know that Chud the Builder guy? Your energy is a lot like his. She was right, I think.>meditation and playing hockey moreSwell idea, anon. Contact sport of any kind. Go punch someone in the face and get punched in the face - just do it in a healthy environment with friends and people who you can earn mutual respect from. If you try this with just anyone and outside of the team sport environment, your life can change dramatically and quickly, just to be very clear. Please keep that in mind. Leaning into something like Hockey is a great way to have fun with your friends and avoid serving time with strangers.
>>42561247>I'm a Cancer.>I hate how moody I am all the time.That means you're doing it right, yeah.
incomplete info, but it's not known to me.
>>42558823>>42561085the "active" nature of Capricorn comes from it being a cardinal sign. Cardinal signs are all "goads" of the chart, the pivots. They provoke, they don't wait. They tend to be impatient with themselves and with others. Their weakness is having too much manic drive sometimes and no chill. All cardinal signs are the same in this regard, they can take things too seriously and cause drama because they provoke the issue instead of ignoring it or being adaptable. They are more direct and confrontational, all four of them.How I define masculine and feminine signs, and what I mean when I use the terms alpha and beta, are "force" and "form", the more esoteric meanings of the animus and anima. Primordial force is the root of the masculine hermetic principle, and primordial form is the root of the feminine hermetic principle. As a quality or characteristic, it makes the so-called "masculine" signs, "forceful" as I like to put it, and the "feminine" signs, "formative" as I also like to put it. That is to say, the masculine signs are more pushy and forceful, while the feminine signs are more nurturing and formative.Applying this once more to what I said about Capricorn for example, Capricorn is cardinal, so it has manic "do it now" energy that does not show patience, and it is an earth sign, so it takes a pragmatic approach, focuses on material safety and comfort first, and it is a "feminine" sign, so it has beta qualities of nurturing and helping things find their true purpose or identity, rather than imposing one upon them the way a masculine sign would. This is what sets the masculine signs apart from the feminine signs in my framework. The masculine signs do not nurture and they are not formative, they force themselves and the world around them to submit to their authority and make demands, like an emperor or a king, like the father does, asserting dominance and control over others and over the world around them. Masculine signs wield and seek power.
>>42561085>Oh, look, it's that guy that doxed everyone, guys.Once again, that faggot doxxed me too. You can keep trying to enforce this delusion on everyone but the evidence doesn't line up so you're just screaming at nothing. We can all see your butthurt projectionLook at how upset you are after Capricucks got called feminine (which they are). I thought you weren't Capricorn buddy, why do you care? They're unironically built to be servants/betas of the universe, they're LITERAL jannies. That's why when I was shitting on them in the last thread a jannie nuked the entire thing because my posts were hitting too close to home.>>42559543I'm completely capable of having sane discussions, it's when I have to argue with someone who's mentally ill that I have to use their own mental illness against them. It's the only way they learn, to have a mirror held up to them to show how utterly autistic they are so they gain some self awareness and stop. Sometimes it takes a while though, they might go for weeks and weeks screeching at themselves (thinking it's me) before they realise how pathetic they're making themselves look. When their ego gets bruised it's common for them to simply ignore whatever is presented against them, like if you point out a flaw in their argument they'll pretend it doesn't exist for instance. They can't ignore it forever though, it will be there constantly at the back of their mind eating away at them until they finally give way. Don't worry I'm here to make sure that happens. *honk honk*
>>42561675>sign most known for ascending corporate ladders is ackchyually beta as fuck broYou don't know anything about Capricorns. Go learning the real significations of the signs. Or better yet, talk to people and ask their birthdate and time to learn how these signs manifest in a person's life and personality with some first hand experience, not whatever bullshit popped up into your head aquatranny zoomer.
>>42561693Don't talk so loud Saturn in Aries, satan is watching you.
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>>42561780>Satan is watchingFreudian slip
>>42561909>Freudian slipNot even a little, be on your best behavior now and daddy Capricorn wont humiliate you again.
>>42562020I literally am "daddy Capricorn" didn't you see the Saturn in the 1st house? You need to brush up on your astrology lil bud. It's not your typical Capricuck reality control though, it's more like I'm turning your own weapon against you, that's why it makes you seethe so much. Are you able to figure this out yourself or do I need to dumb it down for you?>againThere was never an initial instance to begin with. By all means keep trying to invent scenarios that never actually happened it just degrades your authority further. I can see you still haven't taken my advice to revise your word salad text walls, I pity whoever has to actually comb through all that garbage.
>>42562097Here we go again, god damn you are one dumb son of a bitch. Nobody reads your posts retard, they're all the same brainless AI adjacent slop and projections that you refuse to acknowledge for yourself. Can't blame anybody for not reading them though, it's a completely natural response to an ugly faggot that Saturn fucked up by being conjunct your ascendant in the sign of his fall in Aries (the face) of all things (probably the worst house for a planet to be in fall by the way if you didn't want to be an ugly fuck, worst of all for you that's Saturn).When are you going to be honest with yourself? You ain't ever going to get better otherwise. You're not some gigachad aries or leo, 'owning the caps', you're just a sad mentally ill ugly fuck that seethes endlessly on /astro/.
>>42561769That's not really what I said though.I explained how what I meant was forceful and formative, and explained why Capricorns are both assertive (from being cardinal) and formative, or "nurturing" if you prefer (from being feminine, or "beta" as I like to call them). When these traits are combined with earth energy, which is grounded in the physical senses, as well as being ruled by Saturn, which is an introverted negating archetype that sets boundaries so we can improve by showing discipline, you have a zodiac sign that works hard to formulate and manifest realistic goals with the ethical motivation of doing so as a team player who is genuinely trying to look out not just for themselves but for something greater than themselves which they willingly submit to and serve. Thus, they are never the king, never the one to sit upon the throne and be recognized, like Leo, but rather, they are the actual powerhouse behind the throne, the right hand of god, the morning star, the mightiest of all the archangels, the CEO that runs the whole kingdom FOR the King, and does a goddamn much better job than any fucking Leo ever could anyway. THAT is Capricorn's "femininity".
>>42551679>will i have a successful writing career?That's not going to happen ever again. The future of literature is hyper personalized AI generated novel series that go on forever
>>42562268Now you're just backpedaling.
>>42562251Oh boy, struck a nerve did I? Dance for us monkey, your mental breakdown is our entertainment.Remember how you completely whiffed my Saturn return and instantly switched lanes from Saturn defender to calling people Saturn simps? Just because my placement didn't align with your narrative of the big bad Aries getting put in his place. The truth of the matter is, I've spent my whole life mastering the Aries fire to use against people like you. I didn't start out with it, it's something I unlocked over time. It is unyielding and unrelenting, you can argue with me for days, weeks, and years on end, but all you're doing is disciplining yourself because you're fighting against someone who is in more control than you are. That's the irony, you're actually the one being disciplined by ME, kek>Saturn in its fall is le bad!Again, your absolute lack of astrological knowledge is showing. Do I need to dumb it down for you or are you a big boy who can figure it all out yourself? The fact that Saturn is in there with my Aries rising means I am self disciplined (especially since it's Rx), it's why I can use it infinitely without a risk of burning out. It's not an explosion, it's a carefully controlled flame that I can aim where I please. This is the reason I piss people like you off so much, it's because you expect me to be this emotionally unstable hothead when in reality I'm an immovable wall of flames that you can never win against. You're waiting for the flame to tire and burn out but it's never going to. Every time you slip up or be a hypocrite or a crybaby I'll be there to put you back in your place with my Mercury, don't worry. I'm unironically designed to pop giant over inflated ego balloons from the stratosphere, if you can't handle the fall then maybe don't try to fly so high.
>>42562490You aint kiddin' anybody Saturn Aries, nobody is going to read that shit. I certainly wont, I'll just wait to see when you stop being a bitch and be honest for change. Until then I expect you to delete some posts in this thread like you did in the last one when you were sufficiently humiliated.
>>42562591>LALALA I'M NOT READING IT BECAUSE IT'S TRUEI accept your concession.>I expect you to delete some posts in this thread like you did in the last one when you were sufficiently humiliated.I can't tell if you're trolling or genuinely retarded at this point, the jannies are the ones who deleted my posts, I've said this multiple times already. They even deleted the entire last thread, that's why it suddenly went missing. I'm too dangerous for the fragile Capricuck board, that's simply all it is. Now are you gonna keep trying to invent scenarios that didn't happen or do I have to bitch slap you back into place again? It's funny how you think you're "winning" by ignoring my posts too, actual child stamping his feet on the ground in a tantrum. You think if you don't look at it then it suddenly doesn't exist anymore. Actually, not even children cope that hard now that I come to think of it, you're more in the toddler territory for sure. Yep, you haven't matured mentally past the age of a toddler, that's what it is.
>>42562629>frogposting>u mad>cuck
>>42562664>posts getting shorter and shorter the more exposed and BTFO you areOnce again, I accept your concession.Now, let's get back on topic, and this time try to keep the word salad and jargon to a minimum. Thanks <3
>>42562664I'd be more sad for them if they had a little more self awareness.
>>42562688Pure unfiltered projection.
>>42562710Tell us about that great Sun you got in Libra why don't you and how it makes you a super badass. Just like how that dump Saturn took right on your ascendant face in Aries makes you an insane Capricorn slayer.
>>42562727Why should I? You're just going to dismiss whatever I say anyway like the toddler you are. My analysis would be too accurate for your fragile cope chamber to handle, I think I've already done enough damage to you already. Why don't we take a look at your chart instead so we can figure out what mental illness we're dealing with? I think that'd be a lot more helpful.
>>42562676>Once again, I accept your concession.Go fuck and neck yourself, retarded faggot.>Now, let's get back on topic, and this time try to keep the word salad and jargon to a minimum. Thanks <3Follow your own advice, fucking retard.
>>42562676Give me actual reason why should anybody care about your thoughts and feelings.
>>42562754>passive agressive tone>mental illness Who asked you?
>>42562754>You're just going to dismiss whatever I say anyway like the dangerously based indvidual you areAnd this is good thing.Why would anybody bother seriously wasting tine on you?
>>42562754>You're just going to dismiss whatever I say anywayYes, I don't even read your posts hardly. When you approach these threads from a stance of antagonism, nobody is going to take you seriously, you obviously don't take yourself seriously since you make up bullshit constantly with what ackchyually your chart says about you. If you started by being honest people would have sympathy for you, but you just double down on being a retard who doesn't know anything about planetary dignities and gets made a fool of constantly. I don't wish to be cruel, but you really leave posters here no other choice (aside from ignoring you).And no, since I don't have Mars in Leo I'm not dumb enough to give you any leverage by posting my chart. Your just going to have to live with being a loser that causes his own downfall. But maybe if you start being honest and acknowledging you might not know everything you could start to take some wins in life. You've got mutual reception with your fall Sun, so it ain't all over for you.
>>42562754>i am le epique simply le epique le trolleActing like narcissistic retard is not trolling, retarded faggot
>>42560980bumping this too cause I enjoyed the guy's esoteric post
>>42561061>Saturn should really be Malkuth or Binah - it has to be. Either Saturn is the Architect (see Ptah-Saklas) acting as a wellspring of Wisdom (Binah) which we only access through his trials or he's foundationally responsible for all of the Matter we use, see or interact with. He's the reason we have straight lines, boxes, angles. Without Saturn, there are no roads, no infrastructure, no foundations. Malkuth is the material world, where we dwell in these vessels. These vessels, anon, belong to Saturn, not us. This isn't our realm, our space, this is solely Saturn's. Malkuth, anon, is Samsara. When Saturn synthesizes Shiva, we get Moksha. See, Saturn is the overseer of Samsara and as such is responsible for "harvesting" those ready for Moksha. Does that make sense?Wow stop you guys, you're making me rethink it I might even start liking Saturn he sounds difficult but cool
>>42562768So emotional!>Follow your own advice, fucking retard.Idk that seems pretty readable to me, maybe you're just illiterate?>>42562783>Who asked you?This guy >>42562727>>42562790You apparently. Keep seething.>>42562797>Yes, I don't even read your posts hardly.Yes you do, that's why you have to pretend to ignore them. You completely read my entire post, found out my points hit too close to home, and shut it out of your mind completely. It's a coping mechanism used to keep your fragile ego intact, it's behavior commonly observed in children and toddlers. When I said you're acting like a toddler I didn't mean it as an insult, I was simply diagnosing you.>since you make up bullshit constantly with what ackchyually your chart says about youFeel free to disprove any of what I said then>If you started by being honestI am being honest, that's why I make weak fragile people cry so much.>I'm not dumb enough to give you any leverage by posting my chartYou're not posting it because you know I'd pick you to pieces in front of the whole thread. It's okay though I didn't need you to post it, I just needed the admission that you're too much of a spineless coward to follow through on your own words.>You've got mutual reception with your fall SunLibra is about fairness, and it wouldn't really be fair to keep puffing up your delusion which is why I'm snapping you out of it, in the same way you don't tell a mentally ill asylum patient that they actually can fly. This isn't a typical Libra asskisser you're dealing with, I use aggression to put the scales back in their place whether people like it or not. I see an ego balloon blocking out the sun, I pop it. It's as simple as that.
>>42561256>>42561161>>42560963Can you give insights into my career too?>>42550524Pls don't say anything about writer, teacher, your friendly talkative neighbour or something like that. I prefer writing over talking but I prefer telepathy over writing too lol. Not a good communicator at all, not sociable, not into the daily grind ugh. Was a police officer once and I caused a stir in the entire place for being stubborn, "weird", childish and getting into conflict with bosses (for good reason though), colleagues said I'd be the change the system needs but nobody ever backed me up. Guess in the end I could be a NEET, which I ended up being tooI also dreamt of building/managing an alternative spiritual community center, where people and orgs could host and even accomodate for all kinds of activities (from yoga to astro conferences, to solstice celebrations and ceremonial plant sessions). But I don't have the money for the land and building, idk how to sweet talk people so I cannot do it alone which I totally hate, even worse I have 0 practicality or real world bureaucracy smarts, haven't paid a tax in my life. Don't wanna be a guru or anything of the sort, more like a shadow who lends a hand in an important place I contributed to but that won't build itselfAny meaningful suggestions that could go with my chart? Thankss
>>42562944Every time I feel bad about being excessively cruel to you Saturn Aries, you make another post like this and I laugh.
>>42562971>y-you're not laughing at me, I'm laughing at you!
>>42561769but you can' really do that, can you? 99% of people have combinations of signs in their chart , you'd have to spot a really ultra-concentrated turbo Capricorn who'd be more likely to answer from a Capricorn POV except resorting to their Gemini Moon hijacking their Capricorn Sun or something. It's probably next to impossible to extract the essence of a sign given the complexity of chart dynamics
>>42562097You aren't daddy Capricorn look at this faggot trying to impersonate Saturn/Capricorn. Mate bro my friend I have some bad news for you. But Saturn in Aries (even in 1H) isn't true Saturn, he's frustrated, impulsive, seething and has trouble keeping things in control. The result is your autism pops up on the horizon before you even physically show up. Sad, may such cases. There were a couple of turbo Capricorns around here with Saturn in Capricorn (its domicile of pure, unfiltered expression) but even they lacked the 1H placement so it's maybe less visible but obvious if we dissect them
>>42562797I was in the last 2 threads before Saturn in Aries lost it. I don't know what happened to the guy. Aside from the AI spam posts which were interesting themselves in a way albeit too long, he acted normal and not trying to trigger anybody. Guy almost grew on me until he was replaced by a skinwalker triggerbot overnight. Rip anon, I was there, I remember you
>>42563150I'm taking the structure of your faggot matrix and am actively weaponizing it against you.>le Aries Saturn is le bad!>it never gets good it's always bad!And that seething is why you'll be pissed off at me for all eternity. You absolutely cannot fathom how someone can simultaneously be Aries and in control at the same time. I walked into your realm, bent the rules to my will, and there's nothing you can do but seethe and cry about it.
>>42563175>Saturn in Aries lost itHaven't lost it a single time so far. pointing out other people's retardation isn't the same as having a mental breakdown, that's what that other tard is doing.
Why are you guys so retarded?
>>42563175It's hard to imagine he might have been a normal human being at one point, even back then though he'd seethe about caps.
>>42563229>anon is asking retards to give a reasoned causal account of their retardationHeh, prithee anon dare I say thine error is most obvious indeed.
>>42563243>this guy's intensity is too much for me>h-he's not even human!I accept your compliment. I always knew I was the main character.
>>42563254Don't (you) me again libra asskisser, saturn turd face.
>>42563254You lost it when AI betrayed you and showed a Capricorn as main character instead of you. You posted that screenshot like a Saturn in Aries dumbass who couldn't help himself and immediately regretted it afterwards when others picked up on it. Downhill from there, that's when you went full retard. Who would have expected an Aries rising to bring about their own downfall
>>42563265>main character envyThere there it's okay, maybe you'll get the spotlight in the next life little buddy!>>42563270>b-but my picture was bigger than the rest therefore the AI didn't hallucinate!The AI wasn't even registering the other charts because that massive obnoxious image was dominating the entire space. I knew the AI was prone to hallucinating a lot, so I decided to investigate and indeed found the source of the problem. It didn't choose a Capricorn as the main character, it chose the biggest image. It literally thought because the image was big and in the middle it was the main character LOL. I posted all the evidence of this too, I made that chart the same size as everyone else's and it didn't even consider it anymore. I did the entire thing as a joke but people started taking it too seriously so I decided to put them back in their place that's all.There will be no unearned ego boosts while I stand watch over the thread.
My mom says I was born at 10:30, but I have serious doubts about that because I'm just not extroverted enough to be a Sagittarius rising, as opposed to a Capricorn rising. I've always wondered what the many trines in my chart mean.
Saturn in Aries sounds like such a badass anime title. No wonder he's the main character.
>>42563857Unfortunately with a 29 degree ascendant even being a couple of minutes off would radically change the situation, you'd need a proper rectification performed by a skilled(!) astrologer in order to get anything particularly useful.The more super obvious things that I can readily see even now without a certain Rising Sign is your Moon having strong benefic aspects and also your Sun having a square with Mars. The Libra Venus is good too.I think it may be easiest to know which Rising Sign you are judging by your own relationships btw, Saturn in the 7th house is very different to exalted Jupiter in the 7th house lol. If you have Capricorn Rising you may get more luck with relationships earlier on in life, but if you are still struggling around late 20s/30 years old, that may point to Saturn in the 7th house.Your strong Moon suggests that you have an easier time picking yourself up and being able to enjoy yourself, although with hard aspects to the benefics you may be quite self-indulgent when it comes to bodily or emotional needs. The Sun is in fall and has that square to Mars, so you may have self-worth issues having to do with your concept of your role and value in the world. Capricorn Mars is really nice though, it makes people effective at doing all kinds of things. It's an industrious placement.Another couple of big things I am seeing is that regardless of which Rising Sign you have, your ascendant ruler would be either in the 8th house or the 6th house, which tends to make it hard for people to find what they perceive to be their calling or place to belong or activity that they belong with. It can make people more prone to having a sense of aimlessness.The other thing is the Pluto-Saturn opposition which can produce various difficulties, it also tends to make people kind of chuddy like being a religious fundamentalist and using that to boss around oneself and others. Not saying you have that, but it's a possibility.
>>42562775>Give me actual reasonJeet ESL
>>42563229Shut up I'm about to shit down your throat
>>42563857Stationary Libra Mercury. That's all I'll say.
where are my sagittarious brethen?
>>42564085At the glory hole down the road
>>42564119Nah, are Sagittariuses really like this?
>>42564131Yeah but they are getting sucked off (they are cheating on the loving girlfriends that are waiting for them at home, being in a genuine relationship is 'too stressful and suffocating').
>>42564138>(they are cheating on the loving girlfriends that are waiting for them at home, being in a genuine relationship is 'too stressful and suffocating').I hate how eerily accurate this is lol.I have always hated the concept of romantic relationships, to the point where I sometimes think that I would dislike committment so much I would end up cheating if it weren't because I have a lot of empathy
>>42564131Scorpio too. They are the two most depraved signs on the entire zodiac. One doesn't give a fuck about boundaries, the other actively seeks to push through them. I guess Aquarius is freaky too but in an alien scientist way.
>>42564148>I guess Aquarius is freaky too but in an alien scientist way.Is Bondrewd from Made in Abyss an Aquariuse?
>>42564161I don't know I've never watched it.
>>42564161He is not annoying enough to be an Aquarius but his whimsical schizophrenia may qualify him as a Gemini.
>>42564176What sign do you think this is just based on image
>>42564183>whimsical schizophrenia may qualify him as a Gemini.Yes Gemini is basically the schizo sign, idk what he's actually like in the show but if he's schizo then he's probably Gemini>>42564187Still don't know is he like a scientist or something? The two most scientist signs are Aquarius and Virgo, but Aquarius does it from a place of detachment which is why it's alien. Aquarius scientist is someone who tests and tortures live subjects without feeling a shred of remorse about it, they'd be the type to see it as 'for the greater good' whereas Virgo is more bound by morals
>>42564206>Aquarius scientist is someone who tests and tortures live subjects without feeling a shred of remorse about it, they'd be the type to see it as 'for the greater good' whereas Virgo is more bound by moralsThis is literally Bondrewd lmao. He experiments horribly with children but somehow he feels love for them and remembers their names, all the while not having a shred of morality.
Astrology is bullshitI am capricorn, it doesnt matter.
>>42564551I am Aries and it DOES matter!I challenge you!
>>42563857assume you were born minutes later and that your Ascendant is conjunct your South Node in Capricorn You should remake your chart with a birth time of around 10:38am or something
>>42564551Post your chart, I will tell you something interesting tomorrow.
>>42561769To be clear, this guy is the meta thread troll. He's the one that doxxed everyone (while claiming it wasn't him - but we all saw the deleted posts where he kept (You)ing himself in real time when the jannies deleted that shit one day, after him spamming for a whole week and finally doxxing peoples' charts). He's the reason everyone's been on edge lately.This person has actual, authentic, real-life mental retardation of some kind. I keep leaning toward Aspergers. I'm not making a joke about this either, I'm saying the guy has literal Aspergers and can't control his crash outs.To be extremely clear, he's currently enduring his Saturn Return or about to endure it (he's going to protest and say he's already done it, but that's a funny thing to say when he sits around and bitches about Saturn all day). He does not know better and especially not about Saturn. I would call him gamer words moving forward and/or mock him whenever he shows himself (he makes it super easy to tell it's him and now I know his chart because he's a retard).
>>42563175>I don't know what happened to the guy.You're welcome.>The Master doesn’t talk, he acts.>When his work is done,>the people say, “Amazing:>we did it, all by ourselves!”
>>42564131>>42564138>tfw Sagittarius 5th house stellium with Moon, Pluto, Vertex and North Noderip me
>>42562964Your whole chart just says to itself "ugh I'm such a robot" all day long, anon. You ruminate on this incessantly. It consumes most of your waking life. It seems like you obsess over your own appearance. Are you the kind of person that blows up a good relationship because it's not dramatic enough? I get the feeling you get possessive or obsessive and, because of self image issues, you freak out and blow up the relationship. It's like those Reeeeedit post where the retarded lady kept putting salt in her husband's food until he freaked out because he wouldn't cause enough drama for her to complain to her friends about in their relationship.Did you learn about some shit that made it hard to talk about finer details in your life? It feels like you need to recover from something that happened, something that compromised your security. You want to talk about it, but you can't. Once you find out how to get it out, how to relate to other people despite what happened, you'll be able to unlock more stable relationships in your life, which was an active focus during your Saturn Return.>Career stuffHouses that care about careers are 2nd, 10th, 6th. Your 10th and 6th are empty, but you have Mercury in one of its more beneficial houses in the 2nd, being the God of Commerce or Merchants. If the God of Commerce hangs out in the House of Resources or Finances, it feels intuitive that it's a good thing, right? Well, your Mercury is in the same sign as the majority of the rest of your chart. If the majority of the rest of your chart is in the same sign but a different house, that means the two share a distinct relationship: Resources and Communication. This means you earn through communicating in a nutshell. Sorry to tell you this, anon, but Saturn Combust in its domicile here means you have tremendous endurance and will one day be an incredibly skilled communicator, but only after a long and serious trial. In the mean time, you'll obsess over escapism.
>>42564551>anything outside my narrow minded world view means nothing>I am capricorndon't worry we know
>>42565388Why are you copy and pasting your tantrum that's easily disproven yet again? >>42561693 >>42562490Make sure you do your own research Anons, this faggot isn't to be trusted he's just completely making shit up because fighting me head on isn't working. In fact I'm starting to get the feeling he's actually the doxxer faggot trying to pin the blame on me. His behavior certainly lines up with it, he was literally hallucinating and speaking to multiple versions of himself in previous threads like an actual schizo you can go back and look if you don't believe me. Every single post he makes is projection and should be treated like a case study.
Also the funniest part is when the jannies deleted my posts all the doxxer posts stayed behind because THEY WEREN'T ME LOLI mean this is just the most pathetic shit ever trying to force this narrative down everyone's throat when all the evidence is stacked against you. Keep crying you poor ego bruised loser.
They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. And boy are you sure trying to flatter me.
