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Google Image "Cut open Stalacties" -- Tons of results
Now do "Cut open Stalagmites" -- Google tries to correct you to 'stalactites' and shows you hardly any relevant images.

Now it just so happens the ONE picture I could find of a zoomed out, cut open stalagmite... looks creepily like a person. Looks so much like a human head there, and it's right at the height you'd expect it to be on a person.

I've always thought stalagmites looked eerily like crowds of people who were mass melted.
For me, this is a major step towards confirmation of my suspicion.

Where are any other pictures of a stalagmite that was cut open, zoomed out so you can see where the entire body would be?
X-rays? MRIs? CT scans? Anything? Why's it so hard to find more pictures of this being done?
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>>42555173
Try not being a child and use grown up words.
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Cross-sections-of-the-stalagmites-showing-growth-lamination-in-macroscopic-size-taken_fig7_351048463
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>>42555190
I saw that as well but like I said, zoomed out photos where you can see the entire stalagmite is what I'm seeking.
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>>42555196
>I saw that as well
So you lied.
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>>42555203
reread the OP lol
why are you fighting me for zero reason
literally it is written that I'm looking for a full analysis. I don't want a tiny little section
i want to see the whole thing
the one picture in which I can see the whole thing, it looks like a fuckin human
i would like to see more full examples of this and it's very hard to find. just so happens the ONLY one i can find looks like a fuckin human.
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>>42555173
interesting. never heard this one before, but it makes for some interesting speculation about ancient shamanistic rituals. the place where what looks to be a skull carved into the existing feature is in a location which looks like, from the view of the camera, would make a very good location for some sort of underground ritual. there is plenty of room, and also the floor looks to have been filled in, because whatever process made those formations would've washed all that dirt away.

it also makes some sort of sense that a shaman or some sort of monk would've had some sort of ritualistic burial where they are constantly dripped upon, and after enough time, the suriviving cult members observe the body, generation after generation, being entombed in the minerals.

maybe that would be a ritual for the damned, or maybe it would be some sort of transcendent ritual... urushiol suicide for self-mummification was typical in the past, as were other symbolic forms of death. wouldn't be much of a surprise if someone decided to starve themselves to death in a cave under a dripping stalactite, having the water drip on them nonstop while alive, stuck in that dark cave, no food, no light. just them and the hallucinations.

they probably couldn't even know the moment they actually died. pure speculation. any more info?
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>>42555210
>can't find pics!
>easily find pics
>Yeah, I saw those
You lied.
And I am fighting you because it's annoying how many retards want to start threads with bullshit.
It is trivially easy to find cross sections of stalgmitss.
You lied.
You can admit this, or you can just keep being shown as a liar.
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i think stalagmites are rarer and go under the radar for normies. the default is "stalactite". but also what >>42555255 said.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DfUD5F6ZdWY
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>>42555255
well don't do the small ones do the human-sized ones.
That's still interesting though

>>42555315
Nice.

>>42555213
The only more info I personally have is that it just would tie into the theory that a lot of the civilizations were literally melted. Kind of like how a lot of 'natural formations' (like the Grand Canyon) look so much like buildings. in the grand canyon's case, sphynxes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AlternativeHistory/comments/z0xq7d/in_1900s_smithsonian_initiated_an_expedition_that/
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>>42555368
caves are protected and people have made laws preventing you from destroying or taking those structures because it takes millions of years of mineral water dripping to form
sometimes they don't even allow you to touch it because your microbes on the skin apparently could disturb this process or some other shizo shit the guides will constantly repeat to groups of people
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>>42555393
... and yet they also let random tourists into the giza pyramid and allow them to touch everything. lol
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>>42555406
huh they did before not anymore
they haven't for the past 15+ years if anything they actually patrol with camels armed with AK to prevent you from getting to the mystic parts
if you notice in every kind of temple or really any old real mystic shit photos are strictly forbidden
sure you might get a few taken but generally speaking they'll kick you out if are spotted which is shitty
if you browse a little bit you'll see all the people are actually photographing the same fucking dumb shit while ignoring the real juicy stuff
sometimes you get some random podcast that shares a few pictures yet majority of people just get scammed by the travel agency and are shown the allowed "attractions"
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>>42555368
>a lot of the civilizations were literally melted
it is so difficult to find information which isn't poisoned with grifter shit. hardly any professional literature exists towards discussion of the assyetric and biased burn/melt patterns on ancient stone structures.

I've read all sorts of speculation ranging from meteor shower strikes, various forms of flammable acids used in warfare and stone architecture, ayylmao lasers, plasma storms from outer space, whatever.

no solid information. while it is unlikely that they all have some sort of common event, the fact that an overwhelming amount of archaelogical data is essentially classified more than military and state secrets by fact of difficulty of access to the general public, tightly controlled access by professionals, and a small number of persons privy to the source information before adjusting to release to the public.

same story with astronomy. none of that stuff is classified in any comparable way to military or state secrets, but it is far easier to obtain a top secret security clearance and work in black projects than it is to obtain even the most trivial sensor data from projects in Antarctica, for example, without being stonewalled and put on a list.

I like your stalagmites thing here because it is plausible while at the same time being the sort of information with limited access to professionals and zero access to the public.
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>>42555173
There is that one neanderthal skull found embedded in flowstone.
https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/skeleton-found-italy-cave-yields-oldest-neanderthal-dna-n339661
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>>42555534
Astronomy is very closed off. One of if not the most important field of research, and they claim there's a lack of public interest and too low of a budget to do anything meaningful. even when we get something like Artemis II, they provide scraps. I think being an astronaut essentially a paywalled/cultwalled? career path at this point. Can't even legally fly a drone over 400 feet lol

re stalagmites Yeah it could even be something like they were instantly petrified, and then had minerals build up on them over thousands of years.
Furthermore the caves themselves often look like buildings.
Pic related Mammoth Cave looks in early illustrations like these are stone columns of some extravagant palace worn down over thousands of years.
so if stalagmites are indeed petrified people, they weren't even necessarily cavemen, but rather people shuffling around in a fancy building before getting hit by some sudden apocalypse
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>>42556259
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>>42556259
good info! I wonder how they found it and if they searched for more. looking at this
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>>42555534
I just thought of a random offshoot conspiracy from this lol. you might be interested:

whenever I look at >>42556358 i don't know if my paredolia is just off the charts but it's almost like I can see a mass of tormented people globbed together in the rocks (i obviously see the single standing figure that looks humanlike as well which is being spotlighted by the tour guide or whatever there)

but this makes me think... you know how whenever you go to explore a cave, they give a speech about how a cave isn't meant to be well-lit because "it could harm the ecosystem"?

what if that's kind of BS and they just want to ensure it stays dark so that some potential manmade(apocalypse*made) horrors beyond our comprehension are harder to immediately make out? So they just spotlight the digestible things and then urge us to keep walking along while we're surrounded in pitch black by globs of petrified corpse walls
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>Elephant Cave is famous for this rock.

yeh bruh definitely a """"rock""""
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Okay guys. I could have thought this meme through more, but you have to admit it’s kinda funny and random right? Stalactite vs stalagmite ?
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>>42556405
>search whole earth full of rocks
>find one that looks like an elephant
Crazy
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>>42556557
bruh the creepiness of caves is what convinced me that we currently are in hell
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>>42556718
bible claims we were molded via clay btw
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>>42556721
how can rocks make you hard tho
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>>42556729
psychedelic shrooms
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>>42556737
depressed sometimes
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MOAR
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>>42556755
Yeah I can't look at these and say in good faith that it's just a natural phenomenon

I think this is connected?
https://publicdomainreview.org/essay/petrified-waters/

>Petrified Waters: The Artificial Grottoes of the Renaissance and Beyond

they say these are "handmade caves"

i say... these are the same as the caves posted here, except they didn't undergo as much wasting away yet
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>>42557486
regarding pic related i'm replying to:


>"We wrote "built" because that's what happened: contrary to appearances, these are not original caves but a veritable system of limestone structures, stalactites, and stalagmites, "taken primarily from Isoverde, other areas of Liguria, and perhaps even Sardinia, " explains architect Ghigino, director of Palazzo Pallavicini."

lol ok sure
https://www.primocanale.it/archivio-news/228926-le-grotte-dell-inferno-di-villa-pallavicini-a-pegli-il-paradiso-e-il-camelieto-in-presa-diretta.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luB-3plrjbc
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>>42557486
>https://publicdomainreview.org/essay/petrified-waters/
is there a connection between grottoes and ghettos? jews have long been associated with both. the hook nosed demons living in filthy ghettos and also living in caves and tunnels as a way to abduct humans for sacrifice. also the myth of jews forming golems to serve them from clay
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>>42557680
you know grotto and ghetto are also associated with drugs
guess what usually paintings in cave depict 3 things
naked men with women dancing
hunting deer and birds with bows
or actual shrooms which we know are drugs
~8000 bc claimed by official science sources
the funny part is it sounds like you trip you fuck you hunt so where exactly did the myth of dragons get generated
not to mention caves generally look like something a worm would leave behind
i get that its mostly water flow but from what i've seen water doesn't actually dig stone sure it can smooth it but dig down into it? mmm the more i think about this the harder it is to disprove that we were spawned from under the earth drilled through to the surface and got lost in the labyrinth without a way back
we forgot didn't we
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>>42556373
>I can see a mass of tormented people globbed together
think about your brain compared to ancient brains in the same situation. I am 100% onboard with believing in some ritual aspect to cave systems, especially situations where a mass burial happens for some important shaman, tribal leader, prophet, etc... which is typical among the dig sites we know about anyway.

it is also well known the importance of caves from a religious context going back to shamanism, but even with our modern flashlights, cameras, and thoughts, we still describe the same things they probably saw, only they did not have the language and mental development we would have to articulate it.

still, I think there are situations where with torchlight, many of the formations can scare the fuck out of you, especially during the cave rituals written in anthro history books referring to spirit journeys where an apprentice shaman goes through the ritual of dismemberment, journey to the underworld, exposure to the higher spirits, reassembly, and then return to the world of the living.

they would do that as a month long cave trip with fasting and hallucinogenic drugs, as one use of a specific cave, while others may be shelters or somesuch. cultures varied, but the gist of it was that caves were used in similar rebirth rituals, Jesus being another example.
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>>42557885
>we were spawned from under the earth drilled through to the surface and got lost in the labyrinth without a way back
I am 90% of this opinion.
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>>42555455
checked.
ching chong bing bong was here hello please
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.csmonitor.com/layout/set/amphtml/World/Security-Watch/Backchannels/2013/0528/Egypt-s-antiquities-face-bigger-problems-than-Chinese-graffiti
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>>42555255
No, you fighting him because you are either bot or agent smith effect.
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based thread.
did humans shelter in caves and dragons (nephilim/seraphim) hosed the inside with firebreath melting even the stone within and coating the people in melted stone?
did we start deep underground and emerge like a literal plato's cave?
is the entire world the site of an ancient battlefield between silicon based gods and titans/æsir and jotunn and we just live in the ruined battlefield surrounded by the gauges of weapons and calcified remains of the defeated?
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>>42558252
awesome. Have any suggested links/videos for further info regarding the shamanistic cave rituals or related?
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>>42558478
I remember seeing a theory about how the Earth is constantly sucking itself in via its magnetic field.
So if this is true the Earth has a built-in cleansing treadmill system, sucking things in and spitting them back out
we could be seeing not only surface artifacts emerging but also old once-underground layers being spat out onto the surface
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>>42557529
I'm going to highlight this because I actually think this basically validates my theory
These are caves that have OBVIOUSLY manmade elements in them, and I guess they couldn't be covered up in time, so the most 'scientists' do was to literally say that the builders "imported stalactites and stalagmites from real caves" and made a fake cave
like what the fuck
this just seems like an obvious cover-up for the scientific timeline of not only stalagmite/stalactite formation being all wrong


the 'science':

>Stalactites form when water containing dissolved calcium bicarbonate from the limestone rock drips from the ceiling of a cave. As the water comes into contact with the air, some of the calcium bicarbonate precipitates back into limestone to form a tiny ring, which gradually elongates to form a stalactite.

>Stalagmites grow upwards from the drips that fall to the floor. They spread outwards more, so they have a wider, flatter shape than stalactites, but they gain mass at roughly the same rate. Limestone stalactites form extremely slowly – usually less than 10cm every thousand years – and radiometric dating has shown that some are over 190,000 years old.

obviously this cave fucks with that entirely
maybe I'm missing something obvious but that's what I'm seeing on a cursory glance
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Related, this is the first known ritual site in the world, these neanderthals did the same ritual for 110,000 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruniquel_Cave
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>>42559532

forgot to finish my sentence:

>this just seems like an obvious cover-up for the scientific timeline of not only stalagmite/stalactite formation being all wrong...

...but also that things that appear to be stalagmites and stalactites are indeed decaying ruins and not just boring mineral buildup
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>>42555534
>things i want to research into doesnt have a lot of information on it!
>surely this means it's being covered up!
i hate you conspiracy faggots so much.
you're no different than leftists who want reality to conform to their pre-made ideas of it.
how about instead you consider the idea that the lack of info means there's nothing of real note?
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>>42556310
>they claim there's a lack of public interest
because there isn't
what does astronomy do for me in my every day life? nothing
and this is the case for the rest of the public.
you think it's more important because it's interesting to you.
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>>42559545
That and they would never EVER think to go study for themselves.
OP has never been on a cave in his life, unless you count his mom's basement.
But he has THEORIES, and am inability to use google.
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>>42559595
lol
as if there isn't some law against me going to a stalagmite and cutting it myself
can't even collect rainwater in your own backyard without being arrested
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>>42559595
>>42559679
indeed it is illegal I looked it up and that was mentioned earlier as well
btw on the page talking about how it's illegal, there was this picture and it looks SO obvious to my eyes that these are not just minerals
I would gladly verify myself if I could
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>>42559595
>muh basement
kek why are normgroids convinced that 4chan is all fat basement gamers?
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>>42559687
it reminds me of the aliens in gantz
on that note tunguska event is probably tied into all of this somehow
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>>42559715
>hit dog hollers
Not all, just people like you.
Post a pic of your room.
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I think mammoth cave has an alien base underneath it. We haven't mapped out all of it, it's one of the entrances to the Antarctic main base that also connects to the Mariana Trench. Possibly the what the Greek underworld was. There's also a big foot nest hidden from the public at the mammoth cave national park.



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