>>42561376
Yeah kinda. If you're not either a stoic, a gnostic, or a hermetic, you're ngmi

>>42561376
you're a bottom faggot!

>>42561706
…come again?

>>42561376
I more or less accept the basic premises of gnosticism, but I'm fairly certain I am a hylic. Very awkward position to be in, I really shouldn't be capable of self-awareness.

>>42561888
OP validated

>>42561888
Jesus is a man-made creation

>>42561959
it's apart of your identity, that's why you won't question it.

>>42561957
hey big brain, men can't give birth

>>42561888
>neoplatonism
It's also a big part of Christianity

>>42561888
>888
Based trips of truth. I'll contribute to the anti-gnostic sentiment too.

Gnosticism is feminine-coded. It lacks masculine rationality, and the reason for this is because gnosticism doesn't have an ethos, it doesn't have a dogma, it doesn't have a structure of core tenets, it has no principles. It completely operates on vague pseudo-mysticism that is largely informed by modern theosophy and new age sentiments that come from the 1890's at the earliest, but mostly the 1940's. They try to create an image of ancient esoteric knowledge for themselves merely by name dropping old gods, old cultures, old symbols. But there is no connection to any of it in their loose worldview, only the interpretations of them that had been popularized by the likes of Blavatsky, Crowley, Gardener, etc.

The gnostic is someone who when all is said and done only enjoys the idea of spirituality or the optics of the esoteric, but never wants to actually commit to any of it. Why would they? They are closet-nihilists, resolute in despising the Earth, creation, their own lives and the lives of others. They claim to despise materialism, hedonism, and "hylics" yet when push comes to shove and spiritual virtues are expected of them like long-suffering, sacrifice, humility, the gnostic turns their head away and pouts. Vilifying God as some sort of tyrant for daring to hold them accountable, yet crying out for "Sophia" as though they were babies crying out for the breast of a mother.

The gnostic is the hedonist, the only thing that changed is they demand pleasure spiritually and anything short of constant pleasure spiritually they seem as evil. They only want spirituality to serve them. They do not want to actually serve that which is spiritual. Ironically they carry over a profound sense of egotism, individualism and self-centred proclivity into their own spirituality, and they do this by declaring themselves an eternal victim.

>>42561888
And you have tested the matter how?

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How gnosticism and Christian religion work.
I speak from the vantage point of a freestyle magician, mostly chaos, but also other stuff.
I do have achieved gnosis, yes, it's real, but here comes the thing:
YOU NEED TO WORK FOR IT.
And this pretty much enfs the thread because no one wants to:
Invest, work, research, train, all of it very hard and thorough. Which is also a prerreq for magick.

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>>42563573
Now, Christians: they say words and think they're saved.

As you may see, Christian religion is certaily appetizing... So the matter is understood succintly: gnosticism is hard work, Christian religion is not, so retards flock.

>>42561888
No, it exists as opposition to paganism, retard

>>42561376
usually not an intelligence issue, but an honesty issue
hate to keep repeating the same lines on here but since it's apt: we are not conscious actors but rather conscious reactors
we indulge an impulse (reflexively) and then narrate a flowery version of why we acted that way

>>42563614 (me)
this is why everyone deems themselves in the right at all times, it's just a matter of whether or not you're correct
sometime we see the light and become honest with ourselves, but sometimes we take the lie to the grave

Substantiate gnosticism. Substantiate the paranormal. Substantiate god.

>>42561888
>them see the beauty of satan creation.
For satanist like you lions eating cubs or dolphin raping is beautiful.
Nice "spiritual" mindset you have here
You choose flesh over the spirit
The kingdom of god is not of this world.
Demiurge is satan, ruler of this world and not a god.
And catholic heretics don't even have proper commandments.
Enjoy hell, its your choice, heathen reprobate.

>>42562757
You either choose truth or you choose dogma.

>>42563577
>lmmslop
Ironic

>>42562757
>long-suffering and accountability
>spirituality
You do not have humility, you are just hardcore homosexual masochist with daddy issues and self awareness of animal.
You do not understand spirituality and never will.
as you are flesh of this world.

>>42563753
>This pic you grabbed off the internet somehow sorcerously voids your words.
Sure thing, faggot.
Can you be more of an npc?

>>42563782
>getting this easily triggered
>so lazy that he couldn't even find good pic
oh ok.

>>42563802
I insist: do you have any argument at all vs what I said?
>Inb4 no

>>42563808
>taking internet fights seriously
Oh no, my baderino, he is legit retarded.
And give me actual reason why should i care about your "precious" thoughts and feelings, or stfu and sybau, faggot

>>42562757
This is pure, distilled, military grade projection

>>42561888
>gnostics hate the earth and its materiality because their inmaturity doesnt let them see the beauty of god creation.
No, gnostics hate the earth because they know its beauty and also know that this beauty is trying to deceive them. Seeing as they believe the world is made by the demiurge. I think it's a bit more complicated than that.

>>42561376
I would say that being agnostic is always ok. The question if there is a divine creator was never finally answered, it's still a matter of opinion and faith.
Also the nature and intention of such a creator is unknown (even if many religious authorities claim to know).
I personally would say: if there is a creator then I don't like him much. It's a bad creation, and the best we can do is to escape it (in this way I think buddhism is smart as it just avoids the whole creator topic and goes straight to methods for liberation).

>>42562757
>Gnosticism is feminine-coded
>hold me accountable harder daddy, make me suffer harder daddy!
I see.
>It lacks masculine rationality
Your idea of "masculine" "rationality" sounds like idea of what dumb and buckbroken little boy thinks masculine rationality is, a hardcore bdsm homosexual bootlicking.
You also arrogantly and pridefully talk about things you have no clue about.

>>42561888
>>42562757
1 John 2:15-29
Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride of life—is not from the Father but is from the world. And the world is passing away along with its desires, but whoever does the will of God abides forever.

Colossians 3:2
Set your minds on things that are above, not on things that are on world.

James 4:4
You adulterous people! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.

Romans 12:2
Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.

Matthew 16:26
For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what shall a man give in return for his soul?

1 John 2:16
For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride of life—is not from the Father but is from the world

1 John 2:15
Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

1 John 5:4
For everyone who has been born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith.

Matthew 6:19
“Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal,
Mark 8:36

For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and forfeit his soul?
Enjoy hell, worldly reprobate.

>>42561888
>muh accountability
God punishes innocent and helpless children straight from the womb with circumcision.
The only reason he punishes criminals is because it creates more loosh. He also lets them rampage and destroy innocents first, because it creates more loosh. He lets them run the world, because it creates loosh (I will explain the second benefit below)
When you start looking at Earth through the lens of profits and losses, loyalty and defiance, instead of good and evil, his job makes a lot more sense.

Demons are on the payroll, because their role kills two birds with one stone. It generates loosh, and creates a sense of helplessness, a need to be saved, which results in more devout followers. Why get stronger, why fight your own battles when you can just say "HELP ME N!663RMAN" and the demons are woowoo'd away? He does not demand strong followers, he demands the meek, those with a (and I quote) "childlike" approach to belief, as in, "I'm not going to try to understand anything you tell me, I'm not going to ask for any explanation so as to spare your poor tired lips from uttering it, I'll trust you entirely. You say jump, I will say 'how high lord?'"

If you think anything about this world and the state of it is not intentional, then you are just the retard he's looking for.

>>42564003
Truth nuke. It all makes sense when you realize that god loves children and the mentally retarded because they can't question him. It's like how narcissistic parents don't want their kids to grow up and become their own person because then they will be able to judge the parents, and the parents don't want that. They just want permanent obedient slaves forever.

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>>42561376
Gnostics are fucking retarded. They think they are "enlightened" by recognizing and wanting to leave the world of illusions only to be swallowed up by another world of illusions where their pride blinds them to being caught once again. Modern politics is a prime example of this.

>>42563698
>For satanist like you lions eating cubs or dolphin raping is beautiful.
This is also what the LGBTQ people believe because its so natural in nature.

>>42564274
Any Aryan soul can look into themselves and see that they have no sin. Furthermore Orthodox Christianity believes we live in a "fallen creation." That's just gnosticism.

They get you to believe you have sin when you don't, and then send a conqueror named Joshua (Yeshua) to take over your family

Anyone with Aryan blood knows that to recognize that one has sin is to fail in accounting for the gifts of the ancestors, who are always Pure.

Furthermore sin means Missing the Mark in Greek, which is an Archery term.

The only sin is unskillfulness, virtue is skill in means

Very beautiful.

>>42564298
>mass replies
Lazyness is sin, lazy fuck

>>42561706
I want to rape sophia so fucking bad

>>42561888
10/10
Would sleep with

>>42564298
>with no actual official historical basis
Do you are follower of ruler of this world, a father of lies.
Enjoy hell.

>>42564303
>Angry
>Erasing culture
>Missing the mark
It's a discourse on sin consciousness why do you want to erase me?

>>42564298
A lust is sin, filthy used up whore

>>42564341
>ONE FIRST BINDS THE STRONG MAN
>THEN ONE CAN PILLAGE HIS HOUSE
where is your god

>>42564298
>so i would say
No one cares or asked, learn to shut up for you silence is golden.

>>42564355
>I came not to call the righteous but sinners to repentance

>The angels rejoice more over 1 sinner who repents than over 99 righteous with no need of repentance

He says it not once (1) but TWICE

>>42564369
The truth is that you are commiting pride of sin and you are going to hell for that unless you repent

>>42564369
>anwsered
Stay mad and seethe harder.

>>42564430
No you don't, you do not fight your pride you embrace it fully

You're all so stupid it is depressing.

>>42564716
Amen my nigga

>>42561888
>gnosticism is just neoplatonism, and neoplatonism is spirituality for those who dont really have a spiritual mindset
Look who has no knowledge on the history of the church.

>>42561376
Depends what you mean.
I'd say believing in Sophia/Barbelo/whatever above the Demiurge only kicks the can down the road. Only an impersonal ultimate reality makes any sense.

>>42561975
Biblical literalism is actually pretty recent.

>>42561975
https://cogniarchae.com/2020/02/15/ancient-astronomy-from-vedas-and-egypt-to-christianity/
https://cogniarchae.com/2020/04/21/from-prometheus-to-christ-the-crucifixion-stories/
https://cogniarchae.com/2017/01/06/orion-worship-part-1-christianity/
https://cogniarchae.com/2018/07/13/jesus-donkey-dionysian-christianity/

>>42561376

Blaming imaginary monsters for your suffering is ego damage control. Archons are projections of the inner demons these individuals haven't yet conquered. You will never meet a self-actualized, self-sufficient person who is also a gnostic. Gnostics are knee-deep in poor habits/lack of discipline.

Having any kind of spiritual belief is kinda dumb. If I can't validate something it ain't worth my limited timespan existing. I hope you all can be as practical and not retarded as me one day.

>>42564862
>nigga, there is one god and one creation, they are ontologically different
Which version of abrahamic mental illness is your personal favorite?

>>42564915
>someone with sense of commons
You are of this world and not of god.
This is why defend this fallen and flawed world

>>42564915
Didn't know christians no longer believe in demons. When was that Council?

>>42564890
Typical reddit midwit that thinks that he has say in what is real and what is not

>>42564862
>do you realize how stupid that sounds me?
No, i don't care about you

>>42564608
>i genuinely dont care
That doesn't matter

>>42564938
So beside being historically and theologically illiterate, you follow the faction most responsible for the ethnic replacement of europeans.
Go to Hell. And stay there.

>>42564960
Why should anybody care about you?

>>42564938
>the church that doesn't even have proper commandments, the true western spiritual lighthouse

>>42564298
>Blablabla much dogma
Because gods write books no se ne agrees on (Christian religion) vs just letting people know by nature what to di (gnosticism).

>>42563818
I don't take you seriously at all, and I'm going yo explain why:
Do you have any pressence, let alone influence on my environment irl?
There you go.

>>42564988
You have no say what is truth and what is not

>>42564988
>no arguements
In that case, eat shit and go fuck and neck yourself, fucking faggot.

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>>42565043
>I don't take you seriously at all

>>42561888

>gnosticism says that salvation can only be reached by those who develop a specific inner intelectual reflection, wich makes those who are uneducated behind
>gnostics hate the earth and its materiality because their inmaturity doesnt let them see the beauty of god creation
Wich makes those who are inmature behind, right?

One path claims a specific inner intelectual reflection to reach salvation. The other claims maturity to see the beauty of god creation.

It's basically the same problem with different paths.

>>42564938
>catholicism, the true western spiritual lighthouse
80-85% non-white + hispanic globally
pick one

>>42565085
>maybe you should give it a read
No.
Not interested.

>>42565113
Filthy shitskins are inferior to whites and have worse culture.

>>42565113
> holy fucking shit
How christian of you.
Repent or go to hell.

>>42564933

>reddit vs. 4chan
>me vs. them

Your mentality is that of blind competition rather than union.

You have a say in how you treat yourself and others, the consequences of which are unavoidably real. You can either be a host of God or a hostage to your ego.

>>42565335
>just that i hate gnostics
No one cares, stfu and sybau,

>>42561376
mason pls...

>>42561376
>Is anyone that's ... Gnostic ... just retarded?
Yes!

>>42565520
Wish granted, but careful what you wish for...

>>42564289
Based. "Everything here belongs to Achamoth, as do you, but I am a child of the preexisting One, and having sojourned here to see & to be seen, am now returning to my place of origin." ~what to say to the archon who tries to get you to play the game again

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>>42561376
> two more millennia and jesus will fix everything
> two more weeks and alien disclosure will happen
> two more weeks and we'll shift to 5D by thinking happy thoughts
> suffering is always blamed on humanity (ie original sin)
> anything good humanity does is attributed to "god working through you"
> "god" gets all the credit and none of the blame
> religions teach that suffering is le good acktually
> it's about learning lessons
> it's about suffering for god
> it's about proving yourself worthy
> suffering helps you grow, BECAUSE IT JUST DOES OK? (I won't tell you how though)
> JUST GO BACK TO EARTH, BEING BORN PARAPLEGIC IS GOOD FOR YOU

It's become an unavoidable fact that there is something inherently wrong with this reality. It's getting to a boiling point where the copes and mental gymnastics of mainstream religions are being done away with (as they should be). There is a prison system that is responsible for the inherent suffering of this realm. There are evil non-human entities that RUN this system. Anything that tries to brush this self-evident truth aside is either new age toxic positivity copium or a wannabe tough guy mentality. People either decorate this realm with toxic positivity (like new agers) or they compete to see who can be the toughest slave on the plantation and be "god's strongest soldier".

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>>42564890
> Blaming imaginary monsters for your suffering is ego damage control.
> Archons are projections of the inner demons these individuals haven't yet conquered.
Demonic entities are real, this is basic shit, every culture talks about some form of demon race creating chaos and suffering in human society. Also having a healthy ego is a good thing, thinking that ego is bad is a new age psyop. No I will not be merging with the soul soup.

> You will never meet a self-actualized, self-sufficient person who is also a gnostic.
> Gnostics are knee-deep in poor habits/lack of discipline.
None of this disproves the gnostic worldview, it's just shit you made up about the side you disagree with.

>>42561376
Read this post ASAP:

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1ti4zbg/what_were_up_against/
>TLDR:

>This planet is Bozrah, not Earth. What's more, you should be warning people about the upcoming "day of vengeance" here on Bozrah. Keep in mind that the 1,000-year Millennial Kingdom will take place on Earth, not on Bozrah. This planet will be destroyed (and Jesus will be the destroyer). It has no future.

>Bozrah is basically a replica of Earth. People who have lived here their entire lives NEED to realize—once and for all—that this celestial body was never Earth, and it never will be. It's an impostor planet. And if you have an issue with that, take it up with God, not me. I just speak the truth (nothing more, nothing less).

>Bozrah's human anatomy is distinct enough from Earth's human anatomy that the differences allow me to know, with 100 percent certainty, that this is a different planet. Not 99.99 percent certainty, but literally 100.00 percent certainty. On top of all of that, the speed of time here is a blazing 50 percent faster compared to Earth! Yes, you read that correctly: fifty percent faster (as in 1.5x speed, and thus a day on this planet is only 16 Earth hours long). So, forget about all of the anatomical differences for just a moment; the time difference ALONE allows me to know, with 100 percent certainty, that this is a different planet. Now, ask yourself the following question: Is God not watching each and every person who tries to debunk these differences?

>You, the Bozrah native, are the one who has been deceived. Not me. God didn't send me to the other side of the freaking Milky Way Galaxy just for you to tell me that I have been deceived. You are the one who was born on an impostor planet. Not me.

>>42562757
How much time did you spend writing this wall of text full of insults to make up for a lack of understanding of gnostic beliefs? Why even come to this board if the best you can do is write pages of insults while avoiding any intellectually honest discourse? Did you think we would not notice you being unable to address any of the gnostic insights with actual wisdom or illuminating insights? Please explain the Epicurean paradox and why in this material world, elite billionaires are allowed to rape and war children while bombing millions of people to death without their consent.

>>42568266
He is cucktholic
They are white and spic equivalent of mudslimes

>>42564857
We are all characters in a play. An endless nirvana pleroma heaven with infinite love and boundless love mercy light essence is fucking boring. Monad was bored and we were bored and a story with no villains is abysmal dogshit writing. I didn't come here to play fucking animal crossing, I came for black souls 1 and II because choosing to do the right thing among a sea of retards has infinitely more meaning than doing the right thing in a realm where only right things are allowed to happen. Noobs can fuck off to nirvana pleroma, I came here to any % speed run this black souls game. Gnostics forgot that they signed up for this shit and are whining because they have skill issue. Suck it up faggots, l2p nonduality skill tree and connect with your divine spark so you stop losing to the black pill level n00bs

Gnosticism is for tiktok zoomers who have never read a single work of Plato or the neoplatonists. I refuse to engage in any form of discussion with such ignorant, other than telling them they are the true hylics they suppose everyone else to be.

>>42568266
>Please explain the Epicurean paradox and why in this material world, elite billionaires are allowed to rape and war children while bombing millions of people to death without their consent.
If this is your position then its more logical to argue for a purely materialist view.

>>42568337
>appeal to authority

>>42568337
>Ad hominems and strawmans

>>42568343
If you are a materialist on /x and still think it is logical to believe in pure materialism, then you are a newfag and you need to lurk moar.

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"Hylic" and gnosticism is a qanon tourist meme.

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>Rising Anti-Gnostic astroturfing because people are waking up
top kek they are so pressed

>>42568345
>>42568376
Cope and seethe, hylics

>>42566853

>Demonic entities are real, this is basic shit

Your personal reality is a divine mirror of your conscious state. If you train your consciousness with poor habits, you will experience "demons". If you train your consciousness with healthy habits, you will experience "angels". This is basic shit.

Habits of thought are the primary blessings or curses you get to choose as your experience. If you judge the world as a prison, the world will treat you like a prisoner. If you judge the world as something you can learn from, the world will treat you like royalty.

>Also having a healthy ego is a good thing,

I didn't imply the contrary. A healthy ego doesn't get hurt. A hurt ego may end up conjuring paranoid theories about imaginary monsters controlling the world.

>I will not be merging with the soul soup

You are already unified with every single thing in the universe.

>None of this disproves the gnostic worldview

Where is the proof for gnosticism?

>it's just shit you made up about the side you disagree with.

It's psychology 101. Casting blame outwards instead of inward. Projecting archetypes one has failed to honestly comprehend and master themselves.

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>>42570302
>proof
Simple: why are you persecuting a dead religion no one knows wtf goes on about since most stuff, including how to do it, was lost forever.
If you can answer that question with full honesty, and I might have Knowledge regarding your true reasons, then we, 'll talk.

T. Guy who achieved something with meditation, thought it was Christian gnosticism, and procured to 4chan a den of pedophiles larping as teens who just happen to hate gnosticism.

In truth my "religion" was merely a spiritual config to hunt supernatural horrors, I merely became a full fledged hunter...

There's your filthy gnosticism that you're persecuting, fag

>>42570302
Based

/Thread

Gnosticism is the initial redpill. The enlightened master eventually transcends gnosticism as they gain perks in the nonduality skill tree. Mind leads to matter, control the mind and you control your reality.

Ezpz chuds, l2p and git gud faggots

>>42561376
>>42561376
Lmao no you dumbass it’s the opposite. Gnostics are the npc and idiots. Keep deluding yourselves imbeciles while being slaves to the illusion. While you scum keep living at low vibration planes I will continue to ascend.

>>42570329

>me vs. them

Tribal mind state. You have a lower nature and a higher nature. Whichever one you honor determines what kind of divine assistance and protection, or lack thereof, you receive.

What am I if I just believe in the demiurge but not souls. Gnosticism is extremely fun to study and the symbolism is helpful for mapping reality but it's difficult for me to buy into any argument that we're anything but material

>>42570998

The demiurge is a metaphor for any man who goes about his life in ignorance, ignoring the guidance of the Holy Spirit, the conscience in him. A demiurge thinks he’s the master of his own world, so he spends his time making mistakes. Then he sits and pouts about the miserable world he’s found himself in.

>>42562757
>-coded
I hope your newfag ass is here 2 days later to see another agent observing his newfaggotry. Be a better man. Be humble.

>>42571004
The archons are a metaphor for dukkha, unconscious identification with the delusions and desires. They are living manifestations of the fog, arbitrators of mara, which are built by false sense identification.

>>42570302
I know you don't need this validation and probably won't even read it, but I just wanted to say
incredibly based and self aware poster
reading this post felt refreshing and inspiring
thank you for posting
more like this one please, and thank you kindly

>>42570979
Who in Hell cares about quiz tv format religions for retards?

>>42561376
>>42561469

What about Eastern Orthodox Christian mysticism? Theosis, Hesychasm, etc.

Gnosticism is a Troon coded anti natalist psy op to make people nihilistic and suicidal.

>>42575214
Only dumbest cattle is pro natalist

>>42575214
Or maybe its just this life is shit and people like you are one the reasons why its bad?