Why does this not make sense YOU die and everything that makes YOU YOU dies with you your memories, your personality, your feelings everything but then you (not really you) open your eyes and you’re(not really you) a baby being born. You (the baby) don’t remember anything prior to opening your eyes and being born because that previous life wasn’t you. Why does this not make sense because it makes perfect sense it makes a lot more sense than all that god shit
>>42569792LDS theology answers this perfectly btw
>>42569792>Everything that makes YOU YOU dies>YOU wake up againIf everything that is YOU dies, how can the one who wakes up again still be YOU?And furthermore, who is this YOU you speak of in the first place?
Perhaps it makes naught sense because death is a mystery of sorts?
>>42569816Not even remotely.
The guy making eggs is different each time but it's always the same little man in the teal shirt
>>42569792if it doesn't make sense, then it doesn't make sense. Just because billions believe it doesn't make it true.
>>42569792Why do people need religion or other things to cope with death?
>>42569875yep this could be it
>>42569880>if it doesn't make sense, then it doesn't make sense. Just because billions believe it doesn't make it true.ESPECIALLY if there is mass-belief behind something. So much of what we believe to be true are in fact scams.
>>42569880Nobody can explain the alternative. The universe recycles everything literally everything except consciousness is the one thing the universe uses ONCE and then throws in the trash forever.
>>42569792Arthur Schopenhauer comes pretty close to this idea.He rejected the notion that your individual personality survives death. But he also thought the deeper essence behind all living beings is one universal “Will.” individual people are temporary expressions of that underlying reality . He wrote that demanding memories in a future life is like demanding that a new whirlpool remember being an old whirlpool. The individual form disappears but the underlying reality continue expressing itself
Some people remember their past lives. I'm pretty sure I'll be alright, no matter what I am recycled into next. Hope it's a Stacy though, because I am FED UP with being a Becky and only attracting nerds.
Quantum holographic brainProbably survives brain deathWhether the ego survives is questionableCant punish something w no pain receptors, so theres no afterlife punishment
Lao Russel, THERE IS NO DEATH YOU CANNOT DIEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSBS88GCAZ4
>>42570154There have been, moments in my life, where I felt universe made out of unconditional loveI am autistic and not rich, nor a particularly moral human, but I do not beleive in afterlife punishment or retributive justiceIve had religious trauma/ocd and I dont trust priests or gurus and I dont believe in miracles, magic, or faith healers, or exorcismsIf they want your $$$ so you can go to heaven, they are fraudschurches that do faith healings are absolute frauds and operating charity scamsI oppose all forms of human sacrifice including martyrdom and all wars over religionI refuse to tithe, that practice only increases the wealth of religious leaders (swindlers)
>>42570193All priests do>dexieve you for $$$>claim other priest is false religion lead you to hell>claim world end soon (always a lie) and ask for $$$>claim can predict future (cannot)>claim u have demon if you disagree w their fake authoritarian and deceptive lies>fake miracle powers>some so evil they lie about have ndes Witchcraft and occult powers do not exist, they were using drugsPeople cannot fly or levitate or do telekinesis Astral projectors are just lucid dreaming and also cant tell the future
>>42570221Some religious zealot or bot will possibly reply, false accuse me, demand give them $$$, do ritual, etc etc etc, no
>>42570227All miracle healers, deliverance ministry cults, etc, are using stage magic, hypnosis, and fraud, so they can make $$$ of of gullible people
>>42570235Orthodox christianities icon miracles are due to the essential oils used in making the paint, thats what keeps the bugs away, not magicThe orthodox christian holy fire miracles are stage magic, not supernatural miraclesDemons dont exist, prescientific people did not understand mental health or how the natural world operatedPriests do not have special miracle healing gifts
>>42570017Nobody can explain shit. Knowledge about the brain has made progress, we know if some part of the brain are destroyed it affects some part of you : memory / speech / logical reasoning etc. We should do more experiments on death row inmates, remove a part of the brain and see what happensthe reality is your "consciousness" is totally bound to your physical state. Didn't sleep well? can't think correcly. Took drugs? emotions are completely different. Etc.Not saying there is more to us than just flesh but it does seem so to tho.
>>42570245Various gurus levitation powers are stage magic using a metal cane and hidden chair, not supernatural powers
>>42569792So the souls came from nothing (without God) but can only be recycled because He who is not God could only make a limited supply to crank the machine on?
>>42569792You mean i die and also babies are born? Fascinating
>>42570193>>42570221>>42570227>>42570235>>42570245based autist
>>42569792Then later in life I start having dreams about stuff I did before this life, and eventually I had a dream about the moment my soul jumped into this life.
>>42569825I think it does
>>42570154You don't need physical pain pathways to feel pain. People feel psychosomatic pain all the time. I just need to make the brain state of intense agony and boom, you're in intense agony.
>>42570249>your "consciousness" is totally bound to your physical stateYou can overcome this through spiritual practice
>and everything that makes YOU YOU dies with you your memories, your personality, your feelings everythingNot true at all. We're walking around with unresolved trauma from PREVIOUS lives that creates complexes and circumstances in our reality. That's what karma really is.>You (the baby) don’t remember anything prior to opening your eyes and being born because that previous life wasn’t youHow do you know? I'd be willing to guess you remember everything from your previous life, but gradual amnesia sets in. Babies certainly don't come in as blank slates.>because it makes perfect sense it makes a lot more sense than all that god shitI don't understand what you're getting at with this line. What a terrible post op, you should feel ashamed and strive to do better next time.
>>42569792>YOUOh my! This is anon thinks that her own identity is a singular unified structure. She really believes there aren't multiple factions in her own brain in a hierarchical structure, one level, fooling the next into believing its decisions are its own. How fucking adorable. :-)
>>42572156Where is the Obvious Plant sticker on that? WHERE IS THE OBVIOUS PLANT STICKER?!
>>42569792Reincarnation is a cope for death.>noooo I couldn't possibly not exist anymore! I'm too important!
>>42572206>being such a pleb that you cannot will yourself into another life
>>42569792Because the version of reincarnation interpreted by the masses is meant to provide some degree of comfort to maintain order when in reality, you will almost certainly be reincarnated into millions of micro organisms and your matter will not reform into an advanced intelligence for potentially hundreds/thousands/millions/billions/trillions of universal cycles. The analogy of you being a droplet of water splashing out of a sea of consciousness is the easiest way to understand this, throughout infinity you will rise again but it will take a long time and karma holds no influence on that.
>>42572136you absolutely can't.As a human you need good sleep, limited stress exposure, good food, good breathing, hydratation etc all those things will determine how you feel until your last breath."spirituality" is just cope for retards who think that with yoga exercise they are going to take control of physical reality
>>42569792Because then it's not really me at that point, it's someone else.
>>42572206It’s not a cope. Most likely you will be reborn as a starving sub Saharan African, or an Indian living in the slums there’s nothing comforting about that. Many people would rather reincarnation didn’t exist then have to come back like that
nah I think that's bullshit death is just an illusion but we're also so deeply programmed to take it seriously that it's easier said than done when it comes to overcoming death and just offing yourself. Like, realistically that's not easy to do because we're "locked in" most of the time and we aren't prepared to die because we haven't really confronted the death state before, like through ego-death or out-of-body experiences which can be experienced under the influence of psychadelics. I think if you have had any kind of mystical experience, then at least you are partially primed for what is going to happen when you die, and the more of those types of mystical experiences you cultivate, the better prepared you are basically. But we live in a world where it's hard to balance that kind of inner spiritual awareness with all the stupid shit you have to do to survive and be part of this world at the same time. It's almost like you have to pick one or the other, you cannot do both. But if you spend all your time obsessed with the afterlife while you're alive, you're kind of missing out on living life while you're here, and on the other hand, if you just try to live in every moment to its fullest, then you're just kind of an NPC not really taking the time to reflect upon what's going on, what the purpose of all of this is and why you are doing whatever you are doing. Many such cases. Like, most people are just shallow hylics like this who don't give a damn and just imitating everything and going along with the show, hypnotized by everything happening and giving a fuck about everything so much. But the truely awakened don't really give a fuck about everything that is going on in the world or even to themselves very much, because they have reflected on it and figured all this shit out and they're ready to move on and die now and just experience whatever comes after this circus. Like, they're done with this circus, ready for the next one.I don't think you forget everything.
>>42569792You didnt even explain shit, this is a shitty explanation. Booooo op
>>42573334Good post.>But we live in a world where it's hard to balance that kind of inner spiritual awareness with all the stupid shit you have to do to survive and be part of this world at the same time. It's almost like you have to pick one or the other, you cannot do both.What's interesting to me is that part of this is very simple and apparent, a truth that has been valid for as long as human beings have existed in this world. In order to survive materially, you have to do various things, like maintain your physical vessel, hunt or cultivate food, find water, etc. Our vessel is hard coded for survival, and if you let yourself be guided by these instincts alone then you indeed become something akin to an NPC. But the horror of modernity, or at least our present state, is that there are countless things that hijack or replicate these hard coded survival mechanics and trap people into living wholly in the material. It also creates so many abstractions that people don't even realize what they're doing, money alone is a spell that completely pulls the wool over the eyes of the vast majority. Most people will go through their entire life without reflecting even once about the nature of money.At the same time, there are zero socially acceptable ways to cultivate your spiritual side inside the system. The one outlet for it that seemingly exists is religion, but organized religion is actually a subversion of the spiritual and really only exists to prey upon and trap people into becoming another kind of NPC. To cultivate your spiritual side in a real sense means becoming a total outsider, and unless you keep your head down, the system will actively try to destroy you.
>>42573947good, I came here to play dark souls, not fucking animal crossing
