If God was evil would he tell us he was? Of course not.
>>42575108Nice demijak. Saved
>>42575108good or evil is social construct, God is who God is
>>42575131then stop saying there's no darkness in him
Isaiah 45:7>I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
Do you think he is the type of guy to tip over the board game all over the floor if he’s losing?
>>42575108it never occurred to anyone that theres filthy shit coming out of your ass? and you have to wipe and scrub your crack and your gooch and jack off because the bitches are stupid
>>42575108God is above language
>>42575108The demiurge thinks he's great and his cretion is awesome.
>>42575108The truth is you have an immortal soul in heaven surrounded by evil fallen angels.
>>42575108If you're referring to the old testament entity, yeah that being cannot be God. We can judge him, judge his actions. That means there is something above him, Virtue. Therefore he is not the source, and Therefore not God. The god of the old testament exists within God like all other gods. If he was the real God, he wouldn't be acting like a god.
>>42579034Congrats, you just realized what Gnosticism is. Lol.
>>42579042its a miraclemight make a symphony, might be a master architect, might spend the rest of my life taking a shit and jacking off..
>>42575108
>>42579034>We can judge him, judge his actions. That means there is something above him, Virtue.You're acting like "Virtue" cannot be judged for reasons like being illogical, unreasonable or useless.
>>42575108What even is evil lmao? Why would God care about your personal idea of morality? He just does whatever.
>>42575108Humans are the evil ones. So sick of all this drama and conflict over the stupidest pettiest shit. Any excuse to be scummy towards one another
>>42575108>If God was evil would he tell us he wasI think he would
>>42578661So... He's just dumb?
Real divinity doesn't look or sound or think like a human being...or a lion snake for that matter. Praise SOL.
>>42580861sol is a nuclear reaction constrained by gravity occurring in outer space
>>42575122The Demi-urge has been depicked as a basedjack. He won't be able to recover from this.
>>42579163its just vamps trying to convert others to their death cultdont lose your spark
>>42575650Thank you, lol.
>we gotta murder and torture people because a mythological being is going to take us to the churros post after we fucking die
>>42575108What if Yaldabaoth is simply ignorant instead of maliciously evil? Ignorant of his own ignorance.
>>42579138We reach virtue through logic and reason.
gnosticism is childish, god like the anon above expressed, language must be transcended to experience the divine, which is beyond good and evil far beyond language>>42575131>>42575650>>42578447based, is /x/ finally waking up?
>>42575131>>42588531Nice try, but Demiurge is evil and your psyops to devalue the good, and justice will not work on me.
>>42588548if the demiurge created evil then whoever created the demiurge is responsible for that evil therefore even the supreme creator, monad, or whatever the fuck gnostards want to call it, is ultimately evil as wellis that the kind of argument you want to follow?
>>42588712Yet another fecetious argument. Monad did not create Demiurge or any of the Archons as a direct image of him. They were left their own autonomy (free will if you will) in fact Monad isnt even some actual God, it is more of a concept, behind the foundation of the existance. Demiruge did everything he did of his own volition to advance his personal goals. So he is the evil one.
>>42575131There is only life and death. Life requires death and death requires life. Vegans eat living beings that can’t scream and meat eaters eat beings that can. And breatharian’s bodies eat themselves. Even after you die, life goes on. A baby is born to die.
>>42588808>Vegans eat living beings that can’t scream and meat eaters eat beings that canThe difference between those things is that plants don't have a central nervous system and brain. You know there's no equivalence.
>>42588851Plants still desire to live and defend themselves, they still are averse to the experience of being eaten.Dont try to advocate for veganism by suggesting it is some wholly different thing.It isnt.What it IS is an attempt to minimize the amount of suffering caused by your existence.And that's plenty.Remember - you cannot move without killing life. You cannot drink without killing life. You cannot breathe, you cannot simply remain alive without killing other things.The first thing to do about this is work on getting out of samsara.The second thing is to try and minimize the suffering you cause - understanding it can never be zero.
>>42588886less suffering is caused by eating plants. They lack a nervous system to feel pain as we understand it, animals do not lack one. It may not be a completely perfect solution if you want to be pedantic, but eating plants only is observably less cruel than killing and eating animals.
>>42580885>constrained by gravityI see you have met my God's impersonal expansion.
>>42588758>in fact Monad isnt even some actual God, it is more of a concept, behind the foundation of the existanceSo then the demiurge is God.
>>42588894>less suffering is caused by eating plants.Agreed, though even less is caused by subsisting entirely on milk.>It may not be a completely perfect solutionYes, that is the point you must accept - veganism is killing. Existence = murdering other living things.Veganism is itself a pedantry of this.
>>42588914To humans, yes
>>42588929Albeit, he is not the creator of humans, that would be Sophia.
>>42588920>though even less is caused by subsisting entirely on milk.Not true, unless you have your own cow. Dairy cows are horribly abused.
>>42588929To anything.What "to" is it not God, now that you have denied the Monad as God?
>>42588932Oh, we're relying on factory farming? So you are okay with the trillions of animals murdered to keep monoculture crops growing.There is less suffering if you live on milk, than if you are killing plants.You can pretend this isnt true by introducing all the bullshit you want.But it is true.Milk involves less murder of living beings, than killing and eating plants.
>>42588851So a brain and nerves is where you draw the line? Is brain complexity correlated to the moral ills of eating it? Life is life.
>>42588948>So a brain and nerves is where you draw the line?Yes>Is brain complexity correlated to the moral ills of eating it? Eating living things is immoral because it causes suffering. The brain and nerves is what enables the ability to suffer. Honestly I think you're being obtuse on purpose
>>42588942>So you are okay with the trillions of animals murdered to keep monoculture crops growing.Bugs being killed by pesticides and machinery is not the equivalent of animals living the entirety of their lives in cages filled with their own waste before having their throats cut while hung by their feet
>>42588948Its a weird position.I wonder how they would deal with being forced to eat one of two options:>an oyster>a venus fly trapThe Venus Fly Trap in many ways has greater awareness of its existence and surroundings. It would be purely based on animal bias to say that the nervous impulses in an oyster - a creature with ZERO brain - deserves life more than a plant than can be reliably shown to do math.
>>42588955>has to pretend anyone is talking about factory farming againModern veganism requires not only the massive killing of animals, but the displacement and killing of humans for the land.
>>42588712>Creator>MonadNo
