So what's the deal with Saturn aka Remphan aka Kiyun? Why is this planet and this planet only in the center of every conspiracy?
>>42575621Because he is fucking annoying, the conspiracies aren’t real but Saturn deserves them for being such an irritating cunt
Hindu lore explains this well.If Yama, who is the judge of hell, is the deity associated with Saturn, that would make Saturn lord of the infernal spirits. A big prison planet of hell, and enforcer of karma, ruler of all the destructive and evil energies.
"Saturn" is the receptacle of a prpjection of a primordial archetype coming from the collective unconscious. Because it is so universal, it has no precise and exact image or symbol to perfectly reduce it to a single sign or idea. It is a living archetype. So the best one can do is indicate the "gist" of Saturn, which will never wholly contain the entire description. For that you would need eternity because the archetype can find its expression in so many different ways. But these ways all do tend to average out and converge on the following theme:Restriction. Saturn is simply about limitations, restrictions, restraint, discipline, and boundaries. Because we dont like these things, he gets portrayed as "malefic". But it is a matter of perspective. Sometimes "bad" things are what we need to get motivated to finally do "good" things. Saturn typically operates in this way. An indirect source of growth. Growth itself comes from Jupiter, not Saturn. So everyone you see trying to reframe Saturn as a source of Growth, they are mixed up. That is Jupiter stepping in and trying to put a positive spin on it. Which it actually has. The positive spin is actually true. The discipline Saturn gives you does in fact sometimes lead to growth. But it is important to remember that Saturn doesnt care about your grwoth. Jupiter does. Jupiter tempers Saturn's influence. Left unchecked, Saturn absolutely would lock you away in a prison forever and throw away the key. Always remember that all the planets balance each other. None of them are good or bad unless there is an imbalance, which you find by looking for essential and accidental dignity of the planets on the chart.
>>42575621Coincidental how all of the esoteric slop about Saturn comes from before modern astronomy. What could it mean?
>>42576257because the ancients who were around when saturn was the original sun saw it get kicked out by the new sun so they just decided it saturn was being punished for something, then their stupid descendants carried the myth further to mean saturn is pure fucking evil and blah blagh blahthe real evil one is that imposter sun, ruined the golden age and turned earth into an ecological disaster zone forever it did
>>42576368What’s with the personification? Surely that connotes figurative facts, completely unjustifiable outside of larps
>>42576383humans have a habit of anthropomorphizing everythingit's just a planet, not "satan"
>>42575621if a brutal, hard, bullshit-difficult life on extreme hard mode taught me anything, it's that the main lesson to learn is resource management.you have to manage your time, your available resources, maintain relationships with people you absolutely DESPISE because the gears won't turn without their help (and they've crippled you and blamed you for everything), you have to decide which things must be sacrificed so the gears can turn... and when you heal, life drops more more more more responsibilities on you and you have to keep juggling everything, and keep the wheels greased.it's exhausting.maybe that's why ouranos and saturn have rings. gotta make those wheels spin at any cost. sometimes a great cost. sometimes a holy cost, even.
>>42575621The spiritual purpose of Saturn is to act as your ultimate cosmic teacher and spiritual gatekeeper. Rather than punishing you, Saturn pushes you to build a foundation of maturity, discipline, and authentic wisdom by helping you strip away superficial illusions and embrace lasting truth.- The Lord of Karma: Often viewed as the "cosmic accountant," Saturn balances the scales of your actions. It ensures that you reap what you sow, using the consequences of past choices to prompt profound personal growth.- Alchemy and Transformation: In alchemy, Saturn is associated with the element of lead. Its spiritual purpose is to help you take the "lead" of your life—the heavy, dark, or difficult experiences—and alchemize them into spiritual gold (wisdom, patience, and enlightenment).- The Gatekeeper of Boundaries: Saturn establishes the limits necessary for your spiritual protection and development. It forces you to define your personal boundaries and focus your energy on what truly matters.- Mastery Through Time: Saturn governs time, reminding you that true spiritual evolution cannot be rushed. It teaches that deep, lasting growth requires endurance, resilience, and a commitment to your long-term path.If you are going through a difficult life phase, it is often seen as a "Saturn Return" or a time of deep spiritual testing. This period is designed to help you shed old, outdated versions of yourself and align with your true purpose.
>>42579204Why does the Elite worship it?
>>42579204Some people consider Saturn to be Satan, apparently the Bible condemns the ancient jews because they kept worshipping Saturn. Can you explain it to me? I'm geninely confused regarding Saturns' true nature
>>42576254>Left unchecked, Saturn absolutely would lock you away in a prison forever and throw away the key.As I expected, a cosmic cunt
>>42578460I take it you're a Capricorn or something?Also why do you lump in Ouranos/Uranus with Saturn? He is just the wrecking ball of your prison walls - one thing you're right about though, he doesn't care if you're in the way when he bulldozes you in the name of "liberation" and "disruption". He'll set you on fire if that's how the knowledge and power of fire can get passed on
>>42579452Planets encompass both the heavenly and infernal realms. The infernal realm of Saturn is hell and the satanic power structureThe heavenly realm of Saturn is like the judges of hell and enforcers of karma and angels of justice and angels of deathSo an astrologer might say "satan will punish for 3 years", but really they mean the planet Saturn will send you some karma or harsh life lesson, and often it will be an evil spirit (from hell) to carry out the destructive works, but the outcomes are oversee by angels of justice so everything has a purpose even though it sucks to go through suffering
>>42575621saturn is the planet of negativityit is what makes reality possible. form gives potential a vessel to exist in. time gives it meaning
>>42575621Because it looks badass
>>42576368where can I read about saturn sun? I've seen it mentioned around the internet but never truly understood it
>>42576254Stockholm syndrome the postNo, saturn is decay in all forms imcluding spiritual
>>42580532There no lessons or karma, this place is loosh farm
>>42581138Exactly what a lvl 0 noob would say.Such a weak NPC he hasnt even realized you can level up yet, nor even understands that the game has rules to gain or lose mana
Idk I think there is a doughnut hole in the significance like as a symbol it has plenty of meanings n shit, as an asstrollogical thing it seems kinda fake n gay like the rest of it but maybe I need to do more research. But then it's like what if that is literally satan's home base or some shit. I haven't managed to decide on all the different things I believe and then syncretise them and I've read a lot of different "schizo" posts here so they kinda all blend together for better or worse but it seems like it may kinda be Zeus/Jupiter/Jesus vs Kronos/Saturn/Satan. So that's just one way of looking at it, but I also think you know there may be some truth to aliens/gnosticism like people are just fuckin demonic/there is a pleromo/this is literally a prison/farm planet designed by aliens
He gets bad rep but it's way overblown
>>42576368>the real evil one is that imposter sun, ruined the golden age and turned earth into an ecological disaster zone forever it didsaturn cum guzzler, why are you like this?"golden age" my ass
>>42581459Fresh food everywhere without needing to harvest it is a Golden Age... idiot. Also peak culture and architecture lost forever. Good one
>>42581262Who asked you and why are you telling me that?
>>42581468>he first matrix I designed was quite naturally perfect, it was a work of art, flawless, sublime. A triumph equaled only by its monumental failure. The inevitability of its doom is as apparent to me now as a consequence of the imperfection inherent in every human being, thus I redesigned it based on your history to more accurately reflect the varying grotesqueries of your nature. However, I was again frustrated by failure. I have since come to understand that the answer eluded me because it required a lesser mind, or perhaps a mind less bound by the parameters of perfection.
>>42581262This world is a whited sepulchre. Take that as you will.
>>42581496>Movie slop from 1999 >Vs>Thousands of years old tradition and mythology spanning civilizations and empires till nowEnjoy Saturnalia Chud, It's our best work in this shite world
>>42581517>traditionlol, saturnalia isn't what you think it is.
>>42581517>implying official narrative on history isn't slop
>>42581262Leveling up your pride is not just useless but detrimental for you, retard
>>42575621>So what's the deal with Saturn aka Remphan aka Kiyun?I don't know. By what you said you seem to know more than I do.>Why is this planet and this planet only in the center of every conspiracy?For some reason the people who control the media keep pushing it on their mediums like cartoons, video game, movies, books, etc. I can't say why, but this is done on purpose by the people who control the media. Why they are obssessed with this planet in particular I can't tell because I don't know, but it is very clear that this planet exercises some kind of influence over them to the point that they keep pushin it in their products. Maybe there are higher beings or other forms of life that somehow exist outside of our planet or Earth and they can exchange information or energy or whatever and somehow maybe those people are not even aware of what they are doing, like when you get hypnotized by something or something exercises a strong influence over you to the point that you are not thinking properly. I don't know. Why would they keep pushing this planet? What's so especial about it? I don't know.
>>42576254>Sometimes "bad" things are what we need to get motivated to finally do "good" things.Manipulation! Don't believe this anon. He is gaslighting us or trying to gaslight us into thinking that suffering is something good that will motivate us to do the right thing.
>>42581550Obviously most of history is slop, especially these days. 2000 years from now they'll be saying the same thing about us.Saturn is the God of Time after all. No matter.Constantine was a liar and a sellout, and he singlehandedly collapsed the Roman empire. >>42581535You don't know what I think it is.
>>42581580Sure, saturn cum guzzler.
>>42581606That's you, abrahamist baby mutilating scum
>>42581614lmao, he thinks the god of abraham is someone other than saturn... Golden age = Eden Age
>>42581633Dumbest shit I've ever heard in my entire life Abraham was 20 generations after Adam, lmao\So you think a post-flood world, with baby foreskin consumption, is a golden age?Speaks volumes on your character.
>>42581652You cannot be that plumbeous...
Are you all aware that "Hell" (often considered another dimension) is actually on Saturn? People who "go to hell" when they die are literally "ON SATURN".
>>42581661You think two people in the garden of eden is the same story as entire civilizations coexisting peacefully with free food everywhere in a perfect climate.
>>42575621Saturn is also known as Kronos, aka Father Time. Kronos, in Greek mythology, was the leader and the youngest of the first generation of Titans, the divine descendants of Uranus, the sky and Gaia, the earth. He overthrew his father and ruled during the mythological Golden Age, until he was overthrown by his own son Zeus and imprisoned in Tartarus. As Father Time, Saturn keeps us locked into linear, sequential time. It seems we never have enough time to get everything done but this is only a myth in the physical existence because as divine souls, our lives are eternal.
>>42581681On the back of a U.S. One dollar bill, you’ll find the phrase, ” ANNUIT COEPTIS – NOVO ORDO SECLORUM” which means “agreed to undertakings; a new order of the ages”. While many believe this means “New World Order,” it actually means a “New Order of the Ages”. The Great Seal of the United States was first designed in 1782 and has been printed on the back of the U.S. one dollar bill since 1935. You’ll also find this phrase on the coat of arms of the Yale School of Management, Yale University’s business school. The phrase ” NOVO ORDO SECLORUM” is taken from the fourth Eclogue of Virgil, which contains a passage (lines 5-8) that reads: (Latin; English) Ultima Cumaei venit iam carminis ætas;Now comes the final era of the Sibyl’s song;Magnus ab integro sæclorum nascitur ordo.The great order of the ages is born afresh.iam redit et Virgo, redeuntSaturnia regna,And now justice returns, honored rules return;iam nova progenies cælo demittitur alto.now a new lineage is sent down from high heaven.You’ll also findSaturnia Regnain Virgil’s Eclogue IV:“Iam redit et virgo, redeunt Saturnia Regna” (Astraea returns, returns old Saturn’s reign).On the back of a Unites States one dollar bill, you’ll also find the words, “In God We Trust”.When people flip a coin, they will ask, “Heads or Tails?” If Pan is the God of Saturn, then could this be rephrased as “The head of a man or the tail of a goat”?Which God(s) do we trust?If you look at the etymology of the word Kabbalah, Kabba = cube and alah (allah) means God, so you get the Cube of God.If:Saturn is the Cult of ELthe Kabbala is the Cube of GodSaturn is the Lord of the Ringsthere is a hexagonal cube on the north pole of SaturnPan is the God of SaturnSaturn is Satan in astrotheology… then who are we truly giving our energy to? We unknowingly see and use symbols of Saturn in our every day lives
>>42581678>entire civilizationsYou fell for materialistic propaganda.>>42581687Saturn is YHWH, Set, Baal, MLK, he is the evil one, the accursed one, the donkey headed adversary of humanity.
>>42581418Pretty much this. Im not invested in Saturn to begin with so I just ignore them and already want to rework the only interesting thing which is the purple dawn theory.
>>42575621Earth was originally a saturn moon or something like that
Humans will never be able to go to space God put up an barrier and besides this world will end before Humans can visit another planet
Meds now
>>42581559t's the most beautiful planet (also visible with the naked eye) therefore it's the poster planet for our solar system
>>42581681>was the leader and the youngest of the first generation of Titans, the divine descendants of Uranus, the sky and Gaia, the earth. He overthrew his fatherSo parallels to Lucifer in a way?
>>42581681Sounds like Saturn is good guy in fact, and if his rule is less than perfect as it was during the golden age, it's because of Jupiter/Zeus and the rest of the planets in the solar system. How do we cancel them?
>>42575621The cross is the Phoenician Sun God symbol, representing Melqart, Scion of Baal, King of Tyre. It's an Equinox Calender, the constellation of Orion is the God of every major religion. The Temple of Solomon, "Mountain of the Sun" or Mt Sinai named for "Sin, the Babylonian Moon God associated with Tammuz, is the Temple of Melqart in Tyre, which is Troy, just offshore from Urshu, or Ur Shalom, Jerusalem. The constellation of Orion, who is also Odin, Osiris, Nimrod, Shiva and Zeus, the Father, Moon, Sin in Winter and the Sun of Man in Summer, is resurrected in Easter/Ishtar according to the cycle of the Phoenix, or resurrection of Venus. This Xmas Orion will be reborn as Serpentis, the Serpent Bearer, 13th Sunsign of the Babylonian Zodiac. In the age of Taurus this happened on the Autumn Equinox during Rosh Hashanah, Resurrection of the Dead. Orion is pursued by the Scorpion King who stings his heel (Archilles) by rising in the Fall, and it is Serpentis who resurrects him as Horus, the Moonchild. The Temple of Melqart featured two pillars, one of Gold and one of Emerald, the pillars Thoth/Enoch/Hermes hid his 36,525 secret scrolls in, being the number of days in a year times 100, Egyptian number of perfection. The Gold pillar represents Osiris/Orion or Og as the Tree of Wisdom, the spiritual realm. While the Emerald Pillar is the Tree of Life, or Isis/Serpentis as Tiamaat, Mother of Creation; the Physical realm. Their Scion El is Saturn, which is why Xmas is called Saturnalia. Thus we have Saturn: fruit of Isis and Ra. The Cross derives from the Cross of Tau, as in Taurus, Tophet, or Tammuz. The Tower of Babel is the Pyramid at Cheops, built by Hiram Abiff/Imhotep/Baal Hammon, Lord of the Brazier, a Babylonian Priest King for a Pharoah. Abraham was a Brahmin, from Batman in Turkey, he lived and died at the same time as Shiva, Nimrod and Osiris, and may have been the founder of the 9th dynasty of Egypt in 2167BC. 1/2
>>42584873The Holy Grail was the Philosopher's Stone, where the Phoenix lands in Heliopolis after anointing itself in Frankinscense and Myrr, before igniting and being reborn as the Crescent Moon at Easter, every 584 years, when three days are added to the Calendar, so that Venus resurrects on Easter. The Hanging Gardens of Babylon were the Vineyards of the Karmel Ranges. The borders of Neo Assyrian Babylon, founded in 911BC match those of Greater israel and the Kurdish territories. Ezekiel's wheel within a wheel is the Zodiac, the equinox Calendar and the Precession of the Astrological Ages, the Angels with eyes all about are the Constellations, as they saw stars as eyes. This is also why we put a star on our Xmas tree and why creation took 6 days, being the 6 months that Orion reigns as Osiris, the Sun. Sanchoniathon states: "Chronus, whom thePhoenicians name ISRAEL[JACOB] and who was, after his death, consecrated into the starSATURN, when HE WAS KING OF THE COUNTRY, and had by a nymph of that country, named Anobret, an only begotten son, whom, on that account, they called Jeud.
>>42584877Lastly:Panis used to varying degrees in a number of countries – Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Ukraine, Belarus and Lithuania (Ponas). Historically,Panwas equivalent to "Lord" or "Master" (ruler, suzerain).Panis most common in Poland. The feminine form is Pani and the collective is Państwo. (Slavic honorifics - Wikipedia)Saturn and Jupiter have now conjoined in Capricorn at Saturnalia, in the brightest one since in Beth Elam, the house of Bread (Virgo) in 7BC. Hitler, Stalin, Tito, Trotsky, Lenin, Orwell, Freud, Boris Johnson's Great Grandad Mustafa Ali Kemal, architect of the Armenian Genocide, and Trump's Grandad Baron Von Drumph, come from Vienna Bavaria, Capital of the Holy Roman Empire. Baron is a title only bestowed by the God King Emperors and is analogous to Fiehrer, or Fuehrer Maga is Latin for Wizard, Klan Wizards burn the Phoenician Sun God symbol in Illumination ceremonies aka pyre rites. Holocaustigmata, means "Burnt Offering" Stigmata meaning "mark" or "to pierce". Holodomor is latin for "Pain Offering" an example being in Georgia under Stalin in 1933. King Sigismund of the Holy Roman Empire gave Count Dracuul his name, meaning "Order of the Dragon". Dracula means Son of the Dragon. Chertoff means Son of the Devil in Russian.
>>42579204>implying moloch is good guy or exists for your benefitEither orthodox jew or buckbroken good goy with stockholm syndromeThere no growth with saturn, only rot and decay
There is really only on reason to worship Saturn, which has nothing to do with the favor of Saturn, because Saturn is practically an indifferent force of nature that simply represents decay and rot, nothing more, nothing less. The best you could hope for is less rot, but you're never going to be completely free of TIME.So, when you 'worship" Saturn, you're virtue signalling to other chuds that you're some kind of edgy badass who ain't scare of no thing. It's just your classic "look, I'm a tough guy" symbolic behavior that is waving your dick in the face of absolute certainty because the absurdity of it makes you look cool and powerful to idiots that are impressed by stupid tough guy shit. It's tribal psychological warfare. Look at us, we serve SATURN, we are as inevitable as TIME, you cannot stop us, we are FATE ITSELF. Muwahahaha. That kind of vibe. It's like, you can practically hear the Imperial March theme song from Star Wars playing in your mind whenever any stupid zoomer faggot tries to put a toxic positive spin on Saturn and talks about "muh self discipline" and "muh boundaries and work hard ethics" and "muh pragmatism". It's all a bunch of stupid cope from idiots who cannot accept that they live in a cosmos with uncaring forces that are abjectly evil from our perspective and which we will go through all kinds of stupid mental gymnastics to try and reason away or frame in a positive way in order to relieve ourselves of the tension we would otherwise CONSTANTLY face if we actually were aware of and accepted how fucking horrifying and awful the cosmos can be, precisely because we hardly fucking matter at all in the big picture. We matter, just not very much, and way less than some arrogant know-it-all zoomer who shitposts all fucking day is ready to accept.
>>42575621>So what's the deal with Saturn aka Remphan aka Kiyun?It's Photoshop.
>>42585807>how fucking horrifying and awful the cosmos can be, precisely because we hardly fucking matter at all in the big picture.Tha's the thing - we do. But you have to look beyond your immediate reality. At a sou level we do matter, it's just that we don't wear the same body, same way you don't wear the same clothes all the time. You change them. And where there is movement, there is change. Saturn gifts that awareness and power
>>42581081there's a long vid, "secrets of an alien sky", narrated by some old dude.
Explain to me why Saturn is the most hated? It's like complaining about having to do as the romans do, when in fucking Rome. Top cosmic immigrant faggotsMy beef is with Neptune, most elusive sabotaging random bitch, that shouldn't even exist in our solar system
>>42587584Saturn doesn't fucking gift anything, he takes. Always. Period. Get it through your stupid zoomer brain. You're mixing up the signals. Not everything has a positive side to it you fucking clown. ACCEPT darkness. Accept it. Fucking accept it. Grow the fuck up and stop making everything positive with a positive spin. Fucking stop doing that shit. Grow up and learn to tolerate and live in a universe with ABJECT EVIL in it. And recognize the goddamn source of it. It's SATURN and the stupid niggers like you who think he's good in any capacity.
>>42589032Not him but do you believe objective good exists?
