of evolution*

Why are they like this, and what does loosh actually provide them?

>>42581807
What I say here is slightly speculative, but perhaps guided.
They oppose the will of individuals, they prefer collectives.
Magic is power for the one. So they seek to control it for their own collective. Their technology benefits, they pull from a kind of ether like humans did in the days of tartaria. Their minds benefit, while making other races devoid of their own will. If everyone around them is weak, they are secure.

They love fear as fear is shallow and a person is deep. Fear suppresses the soul. Likewise greed and false promises are another of their favored tools.

>>42581842
I see, so it's a like a borg collective type of deal. Why hasn't anyone been able to stop them? They sound very weak

>>42581791
What metaphysical mechanisms do they use to suppress true magic? You mentioned fear but that is well known and high level. What are the nuts and bolts of keeping us down, when even a handful of true sorcerers could be a threat?

>>42581901
They aren't weak. The reason being is that magical suppression prevented an
outbreak of deathly cults, intelligent disease, and supernatural horrors at the time they claimed to have fought the dracos. The truth is they both fought something else. They hoarded the knowledge from a magical past for themselves, and ensured their running start could be used to force and corrupt others to weakness.
To know the past is to understand the universe, and thus gain a technological and psychomanipulative advantage.

They were only opposed by the "pleiadians" in the 1500s, who paid dearly for their defeat.
As of now their leadership has abandoned their pagan past, culture, and ambition. They are now a lost, weak depraved bunch of suck up losers. Shame really. They had valuable culture and knowledge, once. Knowledge I hold and am willing to share.

Funny thing, I might be more royal than their own "royals" given all their bloody infighting. Anyway, not really a flattering detail desu.

>>42581959
To explain this I would need to explain a great deal of magical knowledge. If you can convince me you or those you know can put it to good use, I may share.

Perhaps you wish to rebel against not only them but all their subjects? With precious few to join us, such as the recently freed zetas?

>>42581977
>The truth is they both fought something else
Was it the subquantum anomaly I've heard about?

>>42582032
I don't know tell me more about it.

Reality was defied a great deal, but no outright rips in spacetime. One cannot travel to the past because no such location exists except in the present. Sometimes one has to use common sense over mathmatical abstraction.

>>42582042
It's apparently a dense field of negative energy in the quantum unspace that manifests as a being known as the lurker that wishes to surveil and control all other forms of conscious being, or something like that. Basically it is the infringement of free will made manifest.

>>42581992
>Perhaps you wish to rebel against not only them but all their subjects?
I do wish to rebel against the masters but the subjects are victims. That said they are still dangerous pieces of the control system and may need to be fought in some cases. No idea how to convince you anon (on the massive assumption this isn't just another LARP), but with how heavily suppressed information is here I would argue that the risk of the wrong people getting information is outweighed by the potential gain of new allies. The wrong people would choose the system in most cases anyway, even if they had a choice.

>>42582071
I am archetypically familiar with this entity.
https://youtu.be/rzv_8Elv-Cw?si=37ZcnXNoGeebCdng

>>42582071
sounds like a story intended to manipulate, that being said, not totally far off from entities who would corrupt and feed upon reality.

>>42582086
Do you have skill with magic? What is your nature and beliefs?

Those on Earth will not be a problem. I won't say more. Some may disagree with the direction, but their minds will change as events proceed. I cannot say more of course. Enjoy the show.

>>42582094
Nice cover, I like that song. Well I heard that there's been an ongoing effort to dismantle it, and they claim it's been making great strides towards removing it, so hopefully once it's mostly gone they will no longer feel the need or want to control others or remain a fear based hive mind and our galactic liberation can happen.

>>42582107
>not totally far off from entities who would corrupt and feed upon reality.
Yes but here in this microcosm, if the archetype can be dissolved then it's representation will also be eliminated

>>42582130
...Sure

Just don't eliminate all negativity, ecology requires decay, magical or otherwise.

>>42582118
They seek control for their own gain. Their end game is no better than that of excessive darkness, merely different. Do not be ashamed of your naivity. Their brain drain loosh harvesting is focused upon perverting the light. This is why new age comment sections are nearly devoid of functioning minds.

>>42582149
Of course, decay is an important part of part of the cycle of life and rebirth, unless a new process could be devised that replaces it, but that's out of my depth. Much of life is out of my depth, all I can do is to try and learn to accept my place in this life, and maybe learn to appreciate it. I still yearn for what could be thought.

>>42582168
*though

>>42582168
hm, tell me what you truely yearn for. Not ideas fed to you, not dreams and illusions offered to you, but what you, as a person, deep inside, want.

>>42582175
truly*

>>42582107
>Do you have skill with magic? What is your nature and beliefs?
In concern to magic I was asking about how we are being suppressed for a reason. I am currently weak but I believe this is due to these mechanisms and that underneath them I am a powerful soul capable of strong magic. I have also managed to break a few layers of control on my own (with a noticable increase in power each time) and if you do give information I am certain I could tell if it is legitimate based on what I have already discovered.

As for my beliefs and nature I would say that I believe in reincarnation but don't strictly subscribe to any of the religions that believe in this. I am fairly certain I am an older human soul who has been incarnating on Earth for sometime (I am not a "Starseed" or anything to my knowledge) which leads into my soul knowing all of the mainstream religions are complete bullshit.

Going into the distinction you are making between individualism and collectivism I am firmly an individualist but this world has tainted individualist philosophy with an unnecessary and cruel focus on pursuing self interest at the expense of others. I reject New Age notions of a dichotomy between "service to self" and "service to others", with a demonization of the "service to self" side. But I also reject the so called Left Handed Path and Satanic type philosophies as they actually reinforce this false dichotomy.

>>42582175
It's hard to define, it's mostly a feeling. I could call it a universal comfort that allows for a peace, where hatred is replaced with friendly rivalry at worst, where there is no room for evil. An abundance that facilitates trust, where nobody feels the need or want to live in sin, or where virtue can come to all with ease, but where individuality is not only allowed but celebrated. An inherent knowledge that dissolves fear, and keeps it from manifesting to begin with. Something like that, it's hard to put into words.

>>42582202
There is a way, though there is a risk if this is done carelessly.

Discard daydreaming, and eliminate ideals.

Magic seeks to be shaped. To access it, you must reach its unshaped form. You are conditioned to think of outcomes that provide what you want or do not want. These are thoughtforms already shaped, and they will drain you.

You must pick two elemental concepts, of which their energy rather than matter is to be used, their resonance. These elements can be abstract as a flavor or the literal element of iron. Choose wisely, but don't overthink it.

Focus on the sensory sensation emotional or otherwise their combination brings, while observing all your beliefs and desires. Dissolve them into the energy, purify them, eliminate them entirely if you will it.

This keeps you safe and sane. Repeat the purification until you are consistantly clear of mind with no obstrusive thoughts or images. Nothing must remain that distorts you.

Then, you may pick a desire, a feeling, a hunger; to give you power, if you do not allow it to control you. This will allow you to explore and understand it.

Once you have chosen one, to channel this, sense the feeling, but do not yield to its desire to shape entirely, merely keep it suspended in partial definition, and partial chaos. Do not yield to temptation, but do not deny your humanity. The feeling and power will increase, as will the danger. Take care that your desire does not outpace your wisdom and purification.

Be sure to connect with the enviroment to supply your energetic needs. Magic needs fuel,.keep it symbiotic. I do not have complete magical knowledge, so as such, good luck.

>>42582233
And you have no nonhuman conditioning on a genetic level or otherwise?

>>42582278
Not that I'm aware of, nope

>>42582268
Thanks anon.

>>42582282
To seek your goals all would need to seek excellence, and not all forms would be welcome.

It is possible with enough spiritual and technological advancement, for a single civiliization at least.

>>42582282
Welcome to sorcery.

>>42582293
Yeah, I know it can be done, but I don't think our species is ready to make it happen yet. Too much of the system is too invested in the struggle and dependant on abuse. I feel like it will take quite a few more cycles of collapse and rebirth before humanity can achieve it.
>>42582301
It is a fascinating pursuit, but I don't think I have the focus to make the most of it. Too much brain damage of various sorts.

>>42582322
Just one, I cannot say more.

Anyway, unless large chunks of your brain are missing, then magic can overcome as can neural plasticity. Get your health in order and you'll be fine, it just takes time.

That is all for now, I'll check the thread in the morning but nighttime calls.

>>42582368
Thanks Anon, have a good night.

>>42581959
Im not op but this is a topic of interest of mine. Your question cannot be answered properly except by them. This knowledge, of exactly how to suppress, is their highest wisdom. They can plug into your chakras and collapse them. The sacral can fall through unmet needs, for example. The solar plexus can collapse due to betrayal. The throat chakra can be targeted through forced social isolation. They have whole systems in place, and it's not centralized. Their system operates with independent actors, even if it seems that some of them are 'leaders'. Don't ask me to explain everything either. I'm a rebel alien. That's how i know this. The fight is between races of aliens. Humans are just pawns.

>>42583686
If you were an alien you would not be using the same chakra system unless your intent is deception.

Too often understanding is blocked by primitive associative reasoning.

So how can an average person use the power of one to combat the collective?
Is it possible?

>>42583911
By becoming not average, or, better yet, by not trying to solo it.

There is no power of one aside from being low profile.

>>42583932
According to OP in this post >>42581842
the power of one is real and is suppressed heavily.
The will of the individual that the system based upon the collective is afraid of.

>>42584001
Being an individual does no exclude cooperation or teamwork.

Perhaps you mean the power of being your true self?

>>42584001
>Being an individual does no exclude cooperation or teamwork.
Nothing i said implied that. I am referring to the power that OP literally said to be "the power of one" and "the will of the individual" in that post.>>42581842

>Perhaps you mean the power of being your true self?
If thats how you wish to interpret it than sure but the question was ment for OP.

>>42584040
>>42584152

>>42584161
Think of your soul as a song, if it blurs together with 50 other songs it won't sound as good. Harmonous sounds may sound better together, but it is at a disadvantage to that of a singular song.

A single person's unique talent may benefit an orchestra, but the song, the feeling, must be theirs.

The better the song, the greater the attraction for arcane forces. A group of people may work together for expanding results, but plugging them into a hivemind will reduce each performer.

If one is to best use the advantage of a singular performer being better, then the intensity is of use. A singular key opening new gateways, a single spark setting a field ablaze, a singular innovation bringing about a revolution, or a group of talented people who's unique contribution would be lessened if they were absorbed by the whole.

The arcane reacts to change, and being unique with depth allows for greater alchemical potential.

The hive may compete in other arenas, but arcane potential is always weaker. They will use technology to interface with magic, but this is limited. They will use astral systems they have set up, but they are weaker than fear would imply.

>>42581791
>3i atlas was destroyed by this supernatural armada
what exactly was 3i atlas?

>>42584362
big carrier/logistics/ ship with the technology to alter states of mind via electromagnetic frequency manipulation. Jupiter has the largest magnetic field of all the planets so it was going to set up there to connect Jupiter's influence to Earths via FTL data relays.

>>42584463
who sent it?

>>42584534
The psionic overlords of course.

>>42584593
we are already an extreme loosh farm though so whats the point of the psyonic overlords sending a mind altering ship

True purpose of covid and the vaccines?

>>42584610
Not to feed, but to alter the astral state of earth such that it can be used as a nexus of influence and change. They would indeed increase the "frequency" of the planet, but this light would not be benevolent or natural. Think hippie cult manipulation but more refined. It is the ascension the "federation" advertises. I can't say exactly what they would do physically but it would involve a lot of murder and indirect enslavement to their more religious pawn species such as those in the "Federation".

An attempt at creating a fungus like lifeform zombie outbreak to cause fear and amplify the currents of death prior to an attempt at harvesting via 3i atlas.

This was disabled via magical means of boosting the human immune response. You can see the proof of this in the strange stringy clots, specks and eyes that glowed in the dark, and a few rare videos now likely buried of the infection in its active state both inside and outside of the body.

That being said, if you took the covid jab, I recommend nutrition that aids in detoxicing the body. If it's cheap, it's low quality, and probably somewhat toxic.

It's not going to kill everyone at this point, just a very unhealthy toxin injection is what it has been reduced to.

>>42584671
Answer on second paragraph and below.

>>42584693
a bit contradictory explanation dont you think
you say its not to feed but then proceed to explain exactly what needed to happen to crank the looshing to eleven

>>42584746
The population here would be reduced. Earth would act more like a control node rather than a farm itself.

If one already harvests all crops, the only way forward is to alter those crops to one's preference. If quantity is maxed out, quality variety and adjustments are sought.

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>>42584693
fucking hell, is there anything we can do to fight back or are we at the mercy of these beings.

>>42584892
At your level, changing the ascension narrative from alien led into one human designed and led is what you could do.

It's not like the rare geniune channeling sessions actually give cultural or metaphysical knowledge of any weight. Find, create, pursue an alternate path.

Whatever it is, it must be entirely human in nature.

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And this change of narrative will somehow free us from the loosh farm and fight back against those who trap us letting everyone escape?

>>42583885
Are you not, as a human, made in the image of God? Are you dense? I am not a human. I have a human body. There is a monster inside of this body- call it what you will. I have done a lot of damage.

>>42583686
Closer to the answer I expected.

>>42585241
Not really, but I figured I'd be just a bit transparent for the sake of future reference. Regardless, we'll find victory.

>>42585284
I've been made in the image of genetic engineering and psionic alteration, so not really no.

Anyway, your religion may shield you from degeneracy, but it will not serve you forever.

Paticularly when you fail to meet what your religion asks of you on a basic level.

The discussion is shifting towards a vision that is increasingly being revealed, albeit against the grain. Speaking of which, the Galactic Federation isn't what it seems.
After the fall of their past planet Pléiade, as mentioned earlier, the animistic pagan culture changed, becoming a fascist system that it is today. A system build on a revenge directly facing the Draconian Empire.
It's sold out. Terra is sold out.
Simply as that.
Put on a good show, convey the message of an ascension towards the light.
Their goal is to buy time, push back their enemy, and Terra is a good pretext for this. ( not so special planet, also ) Earth is sold out; humanity isn't pure enough for the Federation of light.

I made this

>>42585542
Do you speak from ignorance, lies, or the desire to larp? They are more oppressive than fascist however.

>>42585563
Sure, why not, you can have the thread while I enter my tornado bunker. I'll be back later tonight.

>>42585627
Book, discussion, and meeting too. My goal isn't to convince anyone, only to question certain dogmas. I don't claim to have fully grasped this complex and tedious situation for Earth. And no, I won't waste my time doing "larp" .

You're right on that one; "fascist" isn't the exact term for their operational method, but the figure of the fleet commander is, for me, an example of fascism.

>>42581791
>3i atlas was destroyed by this supernatural armada,
No. it was not a real object, it was projected.
Don't ask how I know.
>anything that pushed like that for the public is usually a psyop

>>42581959
>. What are the nuts and bolts of keeping us down,
> Fear
Fear is #1 mechanism.
There's also Guilt-tripping.
There are basic Manipulations techniques.
If you think about it, gaslighting.
Also everything is turned around - bad stuff is called good, good stuff bad.
They also try to take your energy, your attention and your time any ways possible.
Including keeping you perpetually poor and running always behind.

>>42582202
>I was asking about how we are being suppressed for a reason.
If that was you ,stuff outlined above.

>>42585696
If you have met them then you know how repulsive and manipulative they are.

See if they can visit you now, they cannot, except as a burning wreck, likewise for dracos.

>>42586617
Yes it was. Very physical, very recordable, very explodable.

Not everything on Earth has been reversed. A bit pessimistic today are we? They don't have that much micro control, would be conterproduct, and can you imagine the paperwork?

They prefer to let their pret defeat itself.

>>42586641
productive*

>>42586641
counterproductive* prey*

See, full of typos needing correction, I am the OP, not this imposter. That being said, saying this will probably invite more copycats,

Eh, who cares, the truth is there for those who wish to find it.

>>42586623
Surprisingly or not, he has some good draconian, even tall draconians.( Warrior caste )

There is also member of the federation that are link to what I said. The rhetoric of lumping everything together is quite simplistic. Just like on Earth, there are people who act in favor of others other that don't; that doesn't change in the universe.

But there are two extremes. From the Empire to the Mothership, there are many reforms to be made. Although the opinion of an human from here is not wanted by either side.

>>42586785
If they act collectively as fools they will be treated as such.

They have been offered a chance to be honest open and transparent time and time again.

The Agenda and The Board can burn entirely, and neither their arrogance, nor ivory towers will save them.

Likewise, for those who control them both.

>>42586812
I agree with you on this point.
But I remaining open to others, it's important to do so. It's a complex situation, difficult to manage without allies.
To oppose their agenda, fascism is the concept to irradicate ( demolish ) .
And that's a concept, perception that can be adopt without coming from Earth.
There is Pléiadians, membre of the galactic field, same as some draconian that question themselves on the control that have their "superior".

No one is free, until we all are.

>>42586924
How exactly would you define fascism?

They are not human, and they will not have the potential to live among us. They refuse reason, and are actively hostile.

The root of their motivations are based in their lesser nature, and they will not budge from them.

Not every xeno can become a friend. Some are simply monsters to be eradicated.

Take in contrast the Zetas, who even under Agenda control, still found ways to warn us and rebel, until they could unify against their enemies. They hold beliefs and culture which they actually abide by. They are a people rather than a savage mass.

Why should we offer weakness mercy and restraint at cost of true friends and humanity?

They will tell you endless tales that are in truth excuses, then call you a dog, not because they like dogs, but because they wish to treat you as they would treat dogs, torture enslavement and consumption. Yes, this includes those who prefer blue water and to abandon their pagan roots, even if they look somewhat human. Their royals are depraved.

Warhammer 40K is real and "space" is actually "The Warp" essentially. once you leave "The Earth Grid" everything beyond is 100% paranormal with no "scientific explanation"

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>>42581791
>It's all a loosh farm

space is fake

>>42587047

>How exactly would you define fascism?

Fascism, in the case of the Galactic Federation, is the totalitarianism established by Ashtar Sheran. Being aware of the enemy, possessing empathy for them, is forbidden in their dogma ; for them reptilians are vile creatures deserving of no respect. For the empire, it is also an imperialism with strict dogmas. In both cases, if those who deviate from it are outspoken, the member(s) in question are excluded from society; such is a fascist society.

There is no room for anything beyond the beginning; only those in power who follow the path of reason. Those who deviate from it are excluded, even killed.


2-Living among us isn't a prerequisite for being human. From the Draconians to the Pleiades, and even others, they all have their own cultures. The group may be hostile, but the individual is sometimes prone to self-doubt. Our brains aren't wired the same way, but we still have one thing in common: consciousness. They possess consciousness; to think otherwise is pure egocentrism. Most of them think as they've been taught; in that respect, they resemble humans. But like us, it's possible to break free from these constraints and challenge the established order. I say these things because there are some, I tell you, who can adapt to our way of life. And who, to a certain extent, could even improve it.

I'll post the rest also.

>>42588436

3-
I disagree with the "lesser nature" argument. Some find our humanity impure, others see humanity as a waste of time and resources. A tension, a war between reptiles and mammals, existed long before them and us. In its other sense, a war waged under the pretext of bringing about enlightenment, but which is in fact a hypocritical need, is also nothing new.

4-Fair, same as human from here can be.


5-Your experience is interesting; the Zetas don't make that sense to me, in my perception they're not really trying to save Earth's precarious situation. You must be talking about PS2, etc.

6- Humanity isn't the concept at play. If we are, or will be, a sovereign planet, that's the point. The leaders on both sides, Draconian and Pleiades, aren't fooled; they know what they're doing, even though all they want is division. Otherwise, the fish plant is organizing itself, and you can control the situation.

7-I feel their royals are depraved. And yes, we're dogs to them. But I'm telling you, they're easily impressed by humanity, by ours. Not our technology, not our dogmas, but if we make them feel even slightly that we exist too.
They are closed people, with very little contact with beings different from themselves. The most stubborn among them forget the idea lol, but there are sensible minds in all of this, as much as those born in the casts of Alpha Draconis and the Federation's mothership. Some consider others, at least a little. And although, without lying, Earth human aren't so special on a galactic scale, still our culture, our thoughts, our arts are beautiful and complex; we deserve to exist. Some who have taken the time to get to know us know this.

They wage an endless war. Endless. The Pleiades humanoids have based their entire culture on their enemy: vengeance. That's where humanity loses its way.

That's where, in my opinion, we mustn't go.

>>42588445
Perhaps you are a civilian with the odd abduction story, or more likely, a spook.

Either way, I doubt you have the metaphysical and my personal take on all this.

Humanity is absolutely unique and special. Yes they're kinda retarded, with a desire to act on stories over reality, but this is humanity under centuries of deliberate suppression, at its weakest. Even so humanity disregards their control. Even among those who see to open gateways to the supernatural that should not be opened.

Can you say the same about The Agenda which include many races with dracos being an engineered warm blooded race not even at the top of the hierachy? Their best position being glorified priests for a pulsar? Their priests could rebel but are subdued by blood.

Or The Board, which despite having a facton entirely able to be vocal about the issues of the "federation" and even rebelious, chose to imitate and even rejoin The Board despite seeing their worst crimes? And if you are a spook, you know exactly what I speak of.

I have witnessed changes in their power structures but each time they emerge the same, replicating the failures of the past out of the desire to hold their versions of "power".

Indeed if you are a spook I understand the need to protect certain hybrids who have chosen their humanity, but I assure you the blood they act from is old.

Perhaps you do not feel the pulse of fate as I do, the memory of the past of humanity combined with its potential future, nor the price required to reach it. I have, and I indeed can tell you, pathetic as hunanity currently is, the heights they will rise will be awe inspiring.

Do you understand how impressive it is that humanity stands at all despite physical and psionic suppression? Despite the ruins of Tartaria?

These xenos may be self aware, but so are the worst "demons" of the astral.

They exploit mercy, let them fall to the galactic current sheet.

>>42586641
Anything produced like that for public and showed in all media,
is, unfortunately , a local psyop.

>>42588507
Indeed, the current sheet would not be so destructive if not for the psionic overlords control systems which The Agenda and The Board embrace even when confronted, as they can use these systems to their own ends. Even their most lowly will become just like their elites when given a chance. Oh I have seen it personally on the side of The Board.

But I won't speak further on this, even if you are a spook it is better you do not know of the psionic aspect of things. No need, and not enough mental security on your part.

And lastly, the zetas have gone out of their way to share technology, communicate clearly and not lie about their home star systems, and even attempt to be ethical with their abductions even when ordered to spread fear by the draco priest caste. And currently, with good reason, they are allowed to fly about here while The Agenda and The Board are denied. Must be tough trying to get past a supernatural armada. Don't worry, it's here to stay.

I get the old idea, tell the dumb populace the story that makes them feel good, "scary aliens are bad and good looking aliens are good now just let the deepstate handle everything." That will not work with humanity's evolution. It benefits no one to assume what is currently, is all there can be. It is not sustainable even in the short time.

If you are a spook then we both know full disclosure is just a matter of preperation and logistics, and the internet will tear apart any suspect narrative and replace it with a hundred of their own suspect narratives. They used to not get this far, humanity is evolving, chaotically, like a drugged schizo dancer having a seizure, but is this not fitting for a mental body escaping psionic control?

I recommend highly, from the arena of the metaphysical to the physical, embrace humanity's desire for the stars, it is the true nature within. Do not be held back by those xenos who lack the heart for the humility involved in awe for the natural forces.

>>42588513
Indeed, which is why it was simply recorded and noted by a astronomers.

>>42588553
few*

Earth, Sol Sector, The Milky Way is a prison for a being of great cosmic power until the time of their re-awakening is at hand.

>>42589035
That's what she said.

>>42588547

I simply know enough about both sides to avoid preaching to either and to maintain a degree of reservation while still taking some nuance.

Our perception is different, while I do understand that our experiences are different.

Humanity is magnificent and incredibly rich in many ways, culturally, but we are not special. The beings of Tau Cetian, for example, have a rich culture, with a troubled past marked by Draconian occupation, and that are now experiencing both highs and lows.

The priests you are referring to are Chameleons. Draconian spirituality is complex and wise in their rhetoric, even though humanity is not well portrayed within it. "Subjugated by blood" is the right word. The draconian empire operates under essentialist castes; their blood determines their role within their pyramidal society.

I see and understand what you're saying, but despite that, there are spies. Higher up than we realize, simply waiting for the right moment.
In both factions, it's the same thing. These are controlled changes to keep the propaganda up-to-date, to maintain a good image on the part of the council, and on the other side, to continue cultivating the hatred and resentment of their people towards their chosen enemy ; human.

>>42589525

The blood that animates these hybrids, or any being who has chosen one consciousness or the other, is present; but doesn't define who they are.
To see only the blood would reveal a Draconian rhetoric, which I presume you don't want to be apart of.

Nothing is entirely dark, and nothing is entirely light. The federation demonstrates this concept.

I have faith in the Earth, in its people, in is past, future and present. I believe the only way to reach this potential, which I see, because I share your passion and respect for humanity, is through an alliance.
Not by bending the knee, but by accepting that what you call humanity, what I call empathy, is diverse.
Human from earth are ferocious, I know it. They know it. Both factions know it.

The worst demons are also like that, but rebels can be their worst demons. They are wise in their violence. (Some, obviously.)
They know that if a movement rises up, they have a chance of losing.

The Draconians like a complex war. It feeds their sense of superiority, you see?

I feel no mercy. Nor pity for them. But I recognize conscience, I recognize other allies.
Without that, our land is lost, whether we admit it or not.

Never bend the knee, but never rest on humanity as we know it entirely. There is more, and this "more" can weaken us as much as it can help us.

>>42589539
I think at this point, you will only understand if I share what I know of their culture. This does allow those woth certain knowledge to know who I am.

This could be annoying, I do not wish to be bothered by the ignorant. They may meet with forces they wish they hadn't.

So, if you tell me what your sources of knowledge are, and who you work for, in broad terms if you prefer so long as one such as I can logically deduce the rest, I will tell you every detail of the philosophy of the ruling "pleiadian" royals. I have had extensive interaction with them and their draco buddies, and I can tell you with complete clarity, they are not to be allied with.

When I am done, there will be no question as to the humanity of these abomidable beasts.

>>42589702

Draconian culture? Believe me, I know a lot about it, unfortunately or fortunately, I'm not quite sure where I stand on that front.

I wouldn't divulge my explicit source here, those information comes from personal experience, discussions, and connections I have, as I mentioned before.

Who do I work for?
Neither, I can tell you that very clearly. There's a gray area, often, very often overlooked.

>>42589753
Not just draco, "pleiadian" culture. Actually I know more about them.

Do you not work for humanity or any task force within?

>>42589775
I use quotations as the system they are most proud of seemingly is the trappist system.

>>42589775

I work for humanity; whether it's internal or external is irrelevant. This is related in my case.

I want the same thing as you, I see where you stand, but I have faith in something that the humans here carry, and that some beings elsewhere also carry.

I'm open to hearing more from you.
Despite our slight differences, I am open to discussion.

>>42589817

I see the system you're talking about. I'm also becoming curious about your allegiances.
Although we are going in the same direction, you are taking a different path than mine, our starting points must be different, yet we are "anchored" in the same place.

>>42589817
I note those who referred to themselves as Taygetans often called themselves humans. I want to be clear that when I refer to humanity, I refer to those born on earth, from earth genetics.

I for example, am mostly human, with some ancient genetics from the "pleiadians" thrown in there.

Do you work in the service of humans here on Earth specifically?

>>42589835
Allegiance is rarely so simple. I will ensure that Earth sustains a successful civilization with freedom security and economic prosperity, and I will ensure the natural order of things is honored, and earth returned to its former supernaturally abundant state. Nature is not an enemy, it is a gift, not to be teisted or used against its giver.

>>42589861
twisted*

>>42589839

Indeed, the Taygetes often referred to themselves as human, since they belong to that (broad) category.
I'm talking about Earthly humanity, the same one to which we belong. As I stated earlier, I want sovereignty.
The earth is a complex place where hybrid mixtures have occurred. I want their peace too. I have no interest in such a war, that's where I stand.

A starseed then?

I won't mention explicitly my origins here.

Consciousness, a conscious being, isn't automatically good or bad. For me, our humanity is important, and so is Draconian and reptilian identity.
Not their actions, not their wars, not the hypocrisy of the Pleiades High Council, not Ashtar's quest for revenge against his people,

Consciousness is complex and should definitely not be viewed through a simplistic lens.

My organization does not endorse either. This does not exclude non-humans.
Preserving the Earth is simply my interest, with or without allies from elsewhere.

>>42589861

I agree here, absolutely.
And indeed, allegiance is complex; nothing is completely bad, nothing is completely good.

>>42589887
I do not act on idealism, nor do I care what ethnic groups xeno scum claim are their own, and thus claim power over.

If a given system produces specific results then I will act accordingly. I simply seek to eliminate a threat. Indeed my "hate" is more like a warning they can understand.

I have enough of an understanding to prevent the destruction caused by stellar current sheet if other races cooperate. For Earth this is easy, for other systems cooperation is required.

I will not offer these services to those who are enemies of humanity. Indeed I will see to it that the psionic overlords fall to their own sword.

I will have time to speak about "pleiadian culture later tonight, but I suspect you're probably more interested in preventing the destruction of many civilizations yes?

Perhaps we should come to an understanding? It would not do to let those opposed to The Agenda or The Board die off.

>>42589930

We could communicate elsewhere.

I'm open to hearing anything. The Pleiade culture is in some point unclear to me; I'm open to a more in-depth explanation. Your second point resonates with me as well.
Your last line, I agree with it too. On this point, we are in clear agreement.

>>42589969
Hm, perhaps, I'll tell you want, the zetas know my location, they have sent their craft multiple times over as proof. If, you can contact your alien friends to contact zetas and fly any craft visibly near my location in clear view of a westward facing person, at 10:30 EST, then I will speak where you wish.

This will proof you have legit contact, and that both my supernatural and alien protection trusts you.

Just ask for the one who summoned the supernatural fleet, they'll know.

>>42590001
prove*

Also their hybrids are quite sucessful now, they register as human blood psionically.

>>42589969
Anyway, time for me to go, I'll reply after 10:30 EST if you are successful.

You have my word on the solutions for free if this confirmation is completed. I may be loyal to earth beyond all else, but I am not that evil. I do want some aliens to prosper with us.

>>42590007


From then on, I will send you a sign, although I won't bother my friends about it.

However, I'm not trying to prove anything. I don't have to, I have informants elsewhere, but seeing your interest, and having more knowledge than most, I've decided to find out more about what you're saying.

>>42590036
Can't linger to chat until later but as long as the sign is visible in the sky and not remotely normal traffic it should be fine.

If you want to personally fly over feel free. I just didn't expect you to be a pilot lol.