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Hypnosis is magick?

According to most magick traditions, NOT ONLY CHAOS MAGICK, to for a ritual to be successful you have to get into a state where your conscious mind is sufficiently shut down or at least considerably altered; at that moment, you imprint your desire into your subconscious; since your conscious mind is bypassed, there will be no interference or disbelief to challenge your unconventional/absurd ideas and your desire will come to pass.

What's interesting is that hypnosis works precisely the same way. Since your brain will obviously reject the idea of seeing unicorns, you have to put yourself in trance, with or without the help of a hypnotist, and only then you can convince yourself to accept suggestions.

It is crazy that no one has tried fusing the occult with hypnosis. Even more chaotic/psychologically-based traditions like New Thought (Neville Goddard) work with the principle of trance, and yet no one has made the connection.

I've been going deep on that topic. I found this female hypnotist online, Jacqueline Powers, which was the first time I've been hypnotized on a video about 5 years ago, but didn't fully explore the idea because there was no way to truly customize suggestions to what I want, and listening to my own voice reading a script would break the state of trance.

so what I've been doing, and having a LOT of success with, is:
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>>42582204
I downloaded this A.I. platform called Pinokio, and found this TTS program called "Ultimate TTS Studio". Inside this app there's a bunch of TTS models to use, and the most powerful one I've tried is Fish Pro 2 or something like that. It sounds literally like those Pro AI TTS tools they charge 20 bucks a month for. So I downloaded an MP3 file of her Powers' voice (using another Pinokio app called ReClip, really good instant video downloader) and cloned her voice in a few seconds.

Then I wrote a script with the specific thing I desired. In my case, I wanted to be completely indifferent to female beauty. I have always been bothered by how my behavior changes instinctively whenever a girl is around. It's a teenage problem that I've never been able to get rid off, even though I've had 3 girlfriends in my life (I'm 28).

I generate it by chunks because it takes a bit of processing power
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>>42582207
The result was an IDENTICAL voice of hers, which makes it so the immersion is not ruined and I am still in a state of trance while listening to the audio.

Then I used an audio editor (Reaper in my case), and used the ORIGINAL intro/relaxation induction section on the file.
Meaning, I picked the beginning AND the induction from one of her videos, her actual voice, and used it as the induction/relaxation part (an A.I. wouldn't have the right cadence to make you fall into trance, at least not yet and not without nerding out way more and overly editing).

Then, for the suggestion part, I used the audio I've generated with with the TTS, with all of the customized suggestions I created. things like "You are completely indifferent to women. You are absolutely cold and emotionless" and so on.

Then, the wakeup section was also the real one from one of her videos.
I picked her because her voice WORKS on me.

Anyways: it's been working in marvelous ways. I feel absolutely nothing towards women after listening to that file about 5 times this past 2 weeks. I still have a strong libido, but I can talk to or ignore women as if they were men.
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>>42582212
This might be the ultimate form of magick in 2026 onwards. It is on the spirit of Chaos Magick, Technomancy and the Law of Assumption, but it also follows the principles of any form of magic.
I am now applying it to all of the other desires I have.

This is the first time I've seen magick actually working in my 8 years of reading.
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just got done with a self hypnosis session myself
it only works if you absolutely don't think about it at all afterward

today I also discovered that gamma binaural beats work a lot better than theta for me, I can get into the trance state way fucking faster and stay there

the gamma beats even allowed me to visualize a bit, and I have aphantasia
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>>42582204
It's effective and works well when mixed with other practices. It's a script where the people who are exposed to it enchant themselves. Kind of like a simple spoken enchantment. If you're good with vivid language evocation you can make it strong. You can even hypnotize yourself.

Also
>Jacqueline Powers
did you cum?
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>>42582204

Sorry what ... ?
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>>42582677
I came with her penis enlargement hyonosis 5 years ago.
But her other sexual stuff (which is most of her content nowadays) will straight up turn you into a tranny in a few months.
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>>42582204
Or is magick hypnosis?
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>>42583122
Everything is nothing or whatevet they say in chaos magick
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>>42582906
You have a lot to learn
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>>42582204
Hypnosis is magick?
If you do the hypnose with your dick then yes.
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>>42582212
Meds.
Glad it whatever works for you bud.
Sounds like you're on a drunk or/and bipolar manic episode.
Your post is what I sound like when I have a manic episode.
I know to post here instead of messaging my friends randomly.
Did you intentionally contain yourself here? Or accidentally.
Meds bud.
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>>42582204
>It is crazy that no one has tried fusing the occult with hypnosis
i did this
i engaged in deep self hypnosis for the sake of magic and of changing my own personality, believing exactly what you described
i binded myself in a bunch of rituals where i received gains in exchange for sealing some free part of my consciousness.
i have turned my own existence into something that isnt human. charles manson and MKUltra also tried to use these techiques but on others rather than on themselves voluntarily. it requires deep mental fortitude and uiltimately drives you insane, but there are benefits in other areas. you become extremely psychically powerful and charismatic, and can also choose to become invisible and transmit thoughts into other people's minds as well as remote viewing and astral projection. People see you as more attractive than you are and extremely abnormal supernatural occurences begin to happen around you all the time.
However, if you break the conditions of your own programming you'll psychologically damage yourself more and more over time to the point of becoming almost a numb husk that does not feel sadness or fear or pain. you will have shrapnel flying past your face and not feel anything, etc.
this was the old magic of the celts extrapolated into the mind. magic = condition + reward. violating the condition = spiritual and physical death. it was extremely dangerous and causes permanent changes to your soul and body and can be extremely damaging so I've forbidden the teaching of those techniques and sealed them away from use for myself.
overall though, the research was extremely valuable. i lost some of my humanity permanently but in my current mental state i don't miss anything about what I used to be. arguably that would make me soulless but if I am I don't care.
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>>42582204
I'd be a lot more interested in hypnosis if I had someone I could absolutely trust. Opening my mind to a youtube vid or a stranger is just too much for me.
Glad you found a method that works for you OP, especially one where you are able to have full control over the content. Still, even using an AI cloned voice of someone makes me uneasy; what if there's something about the tone of the voice that I somehow associate with something?
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>>42584434
Extremely based anon.
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>>42584592
well thanks
i know it sounds pretty dark but after all of it I came to the conclusion that it was meaningless. i'm able to exist in a permenent state of jow and good fortune but i lost the "meta-appreciation" of being a person that has good things. it sort of just passively happens to me and I get to watch it, like the epilogue of the good ending of a VN. Even if you get the good ending though, you still wonder about the bad ending and almost with you could have discovered their orders differently. i never got to learn about a lot of emotions like sadness and anger before i lost the ability to feel them forever. fortunately, because i was very intentional about the things i was sealing the person i created to be is a kind person that feels happy when it helps others and can guide them to their own personal happiness. I've become very interested in the affairs of mortals because they are still capable of changing and create many wonderful stories.
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>>42584688
Seems like I got all of the downsides and normal the upsides. I may as well try to get the benefits. How can it be done? Especially psychic stuff. It's the reason why I try to do it anyway so I may as well get it.
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>>42584987
i don't teach forbidden magic, sorry. i can't take on the responsibility for someone else's soul.
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>>42582207
Dude has been so obsessed over being a terminal virgin, he's created a whole method to gaslight himself just to keep being a virgin, as if that was an achievement of sorts xD
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>>42584999
Checked. Do you know anything about healing the damage, then?
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>>42585093
It depends on the context of the problem, on some level
However, in the same way a doctor will say to eat well and get plenty of rest there are some things that will inevitably restore some vitality to your spirit.
these would be prayer, patience, temperance, compassion, humility, constancy, awe, and good works.

No matter what has happened to your body or soul, you can stoically embrace the virtues and rehearse them. It won't make you feel anything if you have sufficient damage to the soul, but without a soul you can still do things that are pleasing insofar as they appeal to the aesthetical preferences of the intellect. Only the virtues can truly satisfy this hunger, and your soul will heal to the capacity that it is able.

The soul is a higher creation than the intellect ascending up to the divine, so a healthy intellect can construct a soul through the virtuous arrangement of its attributes. Just in the same way you can put a healthy heart in a dead man during heart surgery and bring him back to life, you can imbue yourself with a healthy soul by constructing it within yourself. Just like any surgery, there will be permanent risks and damage that lingers, but if you can do this you can return to life from sin. You'll be changed, but perhaps better.
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>>42585054
I'm not a virgin, I've had 3 girlfriends. And this is not with the goal of never having sex again, it's to not make me overly impressed by female beauty, that's all
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>>42585146
Thanks. Your text resonated with me in a way. I've been trying for a long time but it hasn't gotten any better. I might have damaged my soul. I feel like I am detached from my own emotions and feel somewhat like a schizoid. Not always, but most of the time. I did delve into hypnosis and many practices. My only rules were don't worship anything, don't promise what you won't do and don't deliberately harm anything. And still things went south for some reason. My body has been deteriorating a lot. I couldn't even dream for years.
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>>42585197
Ah, it sounds like we do have similar conditions then as you suspected. In the same way that the soul needs the Divine to cling to, the body needs the soul to cling to. Healing your soul is very important to do, or else you will die. There will be scars, but every wound sealed is less life pouring out of you. There is no shortcut back. When you have an accident of the body and wound yourself, you need to wait weeks or months for the healing process. Just like broken bones knitting back together, healing is promoted by stability and patience.
dreams might be one of the things that are lost to you forever. Hopefully you can make a recovery, but there are no guarantees. a man with his eyes cut out does not regain his vision through healing, he can only learn how to live without eyes.
As long as your soul still carries any sort of life, however, don't give up on yourself. Perhaps the first calamity was fated. Trees are pruned to grow more fruit. Just understand, love, heal, grow, and prosper. As above, so below.
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>>42584434
What if, opposite of soulless one aims to become even more soulfull?
Maybe becomes erratic, but maybe it becomes super human too(in the literal sense if having humanity is having a soul.)
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>>42585262
Ezekiel 36:26
I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh.
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>>42585272
Non theosis? I am curious of the non religious ones, the religion ones i aleardy know

I am curious of the unknown, anything?
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>>42585296
it's not non-theosis, it's the true theosis. God took on flesh for the sake of dignifying and redeeming the flesh. Virtue must be embodied along the entire chain of reality, or it is not virtue at all. This is why good works are necessary to have a healthy soul.
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>>42584434
Vaguepost king >"I know some techniques... but I can't l can't tell you"
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>>42585377
I leave it to others to decide for themselves if I speak truthfully. Some knowledge is too dangerous to speak of plainly. People who understand my words will understand my meaning, which is deeper than my method. Telling a child where to find danger only draws them closer to it.
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>>42582204
can this give me a harem of cute asian women
I'm average bmi, not fat at all
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>>42582204
The deeper you pass out the more efficient it is
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>>42586327
the problem is that the more you dissolve your ego, the less purpose you can imbue into your experience.
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>>42586351
That's what the suggestions are for, the more customized the better desu
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>>42582204
I will make an audio so everyone here gets good pussy
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>>42582204
I wouldn't say hypnosis IS magic, but trance is an element of it. If you work in occultism enough, you will encounter a lot of spirits who seem to have powers of mesmerism. Even magicians can utilize it to a degree sometimes, think of it like a nerfed jedi mind trick. There is a certain "feeling" to it that you got to learn. Glad the tactic is working for you though (also hot hypnotist btw), but I strongly recommend that you layer either using a spirit or an implanted hypnotic trigger in yourself that can automatically bring you back to consciousness or work in your best interest while tranced out and prevent any bad influences from taking root. Basically, a protection mechanism to guard against influence or suggestions you don't want that will act on your behalf when your mind is away and to feel safe enough to let go completely.
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>>42587606
Is it a good channel to let entities "access" me? Rituals never worked but I think trance adds a multiplier.
I think entities are not interested in me and to be honest nowadays I'd rather stay away from them, but many Christians dislike hypnotism precisely because of that
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>>42587636
If you do the holy guardian angel rituals.
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>>42587814
Thanks
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>>42584434
Interestingly Manson was trained by a professional Hollywood hypnotist who frequented Sunset Strip clubs - and decades before MKUltra was officially a thing nerds like Milton Erikson were doing deep research and pushing the science of hypnosis to its limits.

Hypnosis itself comes from mesmerism, which has all sorts of eerie connections to the later spiritualism movement.

All in all, they're deeply intertwined. Dionysian and Eleusinian mysteries featured trances as a crucial part of their rites.
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>>42588195
Mesmer is basically THE most historically validated miracle worker
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>>42582212
???? I'm happy for you bub, but this is 100% hypnosis, 0% magick. There's no supernatural element
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>>42588692
It's the most x ever dude
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>>42582204
sexo for everyone here
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>>42582906
Retards everywhere. Learn to apply yourself and keep your mouth shut in the meantime. Running around acting like a retard never used to be acceptable, but you shameless noise maker fuckwits are everywhere now.



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